The Hydrogen Electrolyser
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- Hydrogen from water electrolysis is clean and green. It is a solution for renewable variability and values excess energy supply.
The electrolyzer used at the Phi Suea House is the most cost efficient on the market, and can handle intermittent renewable energy supply.
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Really nice and helpful video to understand the base working principles of the electrolyzer very fast.
The membrane for PEM is a polymer and not out of gold as your sketch might indicate. Correct is that the cathode can be gold instead of platinum.
Though PEM’s used Gold, Iridium, and platinum
wonderful explanation
Many beautiful posts will always be useful
I decided to check out hydrogen electrolizer technology after my local news were buzzing about a corperation getting approval to start their Canyon Creek green power complex west of Hinton, Alberta, Canada. Canyon Creek will used the abandoned mine as pumped hydroelectric energy storage as primary energy storage. The hydrogen electrolizer would be secondary energy storage. It will be surrounded by fed into from several wind solar farms. Hinton already has a just completed solar wind farm of 20 Mw but they want to keep adding more to peak out at 400 Mw. That would be crazy huge in excess of 20 to 30 square km of land. The abandoned mine turned lake resevior alone is 15 square km.
Thanks for the helpful reply, how things are going in Canyon Creek now ?
Congratulations and all the best for your success and happiness ❤️
nice technology ...👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
❤thank you
what are the costs and profitability for a system? any advice?
YOU MUST MICROWAVE THE WATER one time for 5 mins. If u do is twice the water will explode and lose its energergy - by the time u read this I’ll be dead due to a bad unknown infection
But how ifficient is AEM compared to alkaline or PEM?
Excellent!!
Excellent helpful discussions.
HYSR SunHydrogen has been working on green hydrogen for years and years. Scientists have been working with multiple international companies to bring their products to the market and their patents worldwide will secure acceptance. Best regards.
But how can we get that polymer??
Nice technology,my name is zaiyad sanusi, leaving in Nigeria, i want to get this new technology but how much is the cost AEM AND where to find it.
Nice intro. Is it possible to produce AEM regionally or how is technology complicated??
What is the increase in performance using AEM during electrolysis
Hello, very nice video! I wanted to ask if I could have permission to use clips from this video for a school project, that may later be published online? Please get back to me as soon as possible.
Are they the electrodes of reedium and platinum how do I get them what is the collith term
great animation i have ever seen..and the twist was really osm..every thing was really great
Always provide us these types of intresting videos..
Long on wind short on facts
That video could’ve been half as long
so wait can you use distilled water in this system and the solid state electrolyte is enough?
the cell anode must be connected to the positive electrode of the battery not the negative one as shown on this video
Titanium fiber felt,is a materials of eletrolyzer.
Very clear and Amazing explanation 😍😎
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How much efficient percetage ?
nice
hydrogen is the only right variant for future. No other variant ! But we are developing approach, which is not exact now. There must be 2 waves for hydrogen : 1/BUILD HYDROGEN PRODUCTION FACTORIES ON SITES OF RENEWABLE ENERGY STATIONS. 2/ SMALL CARS NEED TO LOAD HYDROGEN BY EXCHANGING WHOLE COMPRESSED HYDROGEN BALLOONS.
We are wrong because we do not firstly build enough hydrogen production factories on sites of renewable energy stations. We are wrong because we are firstly trying at the beginning stage to build network of hydrogen loading stations, which are COMPLEX AND EXPENSIVE.
We must change our approach. We should use hydrogen as energy storage method for renewable energy stations first. Then we should load hydrogen for usual small cars by exchanging whole standard sized compressed hydrogen gas balloons. So It is very simple and not expensive to make the global net of hydrogen supplying stations. Any normal mini shops can be a hydrogen supplying point by storing standard sized compressed hydrogen gas balloons. We do not have to use liquid hydrogen, which is difficult to collect. But we can use compressed hydrogen gas, which is not so much different in weight by comparison with liquid hydrogen. By that way, we can build social economic model "HYDROGEN EVERYWHERE", in which any robots and machines are powered by hydrogen bottles (compressed hydrogen bottles are popular everywhere as Coca Cola bottles). Then when hydrogen becomes popular, we can build more hydrogen loading stations. Hydrogen is the best solution of energy storage for all energy stations now, for example, for nuclear energy stations, for renewable energy stations, and for FUTURE NUCLEAR ENERGY REACTORS. Just install ready hydrogen production modules, and install independent hydrogen fuel cell modules in adjacent areas. Use compressed hydrogen gas at first time instead of liquid hydrogen.
Hydrogen has energy storage coefficient, which is nearly the maximum limit for all known chemical mechanisms. It means that ALL FUTURE POSSIBLE CHEMICAL BATTERIES WILL HAVE ENERGY STORAGE COEFFICIENT LESS THAN HYDROGEN. So . ANY HUMAN SIZED MOBILITY ROBOTS AND DRONES MUST BE POWERED BY HYDROGEN. A lot of army vehicles must be powered by hydrogen too, because of efficiency, even without counting environment profit.
And the last thing to note is that, hydrogen is not more dangerous than other gases and petrol. Hydrogen has big energy storage capacity, but when burning hydrogen in accidents, IT DOES NOT CREATE ACOUSTIC DESTRUCTING WAVE TO ENVIRONMENTS. It means that hydrogen burning is less destructive than gasoline burning.
I guarantee that producing compressed hydrogen balloons is easier and cheaper than producing AAA batteries. Yeah, hydrogen can seep through small gaps of bad material walls, but if hydrogen leaks 1gr-10gr per months for ballon 1kg, then it is not a problem. Building hydrogen loading station is not much expensive than building electric loading station. And no need to build hydrogen supplying station, which can be any simple warehouse or mini shop for storing compressed hydrogen balloons.
We have no doubt that hydrogen is the only reasonable variant for renewable energy, because when we talk about renewable energy storage approach, we must talk about the energy storage scale, at which abundant of renewable energy for whole long period (3-6 months) must be packed entirely in some energy carrier. At the class of this colossal energy storage scale, THIS ENERGY CARRIER MUST BE ONLY HYDROGEN, but no other chemical batteries. You can not pack solar farm energy of 6 months into lithium batteries, but you can pack them all into hydrogen.
Many people, especially EU governments still do not estimate enough important role of hydrogen. Hydrogen is the key factor for renewable energy in offshore and building marine society. Far offshore wind energy, ocean wave energy, tidal energy and even ocean solar energy must live with hydrogen. Hydrogen is the key factor for energy-autonomous floating offshore usual army bases (hydrogen boats around floating ocean offshore energy stations), and of course for social floating ocean offshore units too. HYDROGEN ECONOMY WILL CHANGE GEOPOLICY IN EU, because hydrogen economy is the most reliable way to make EU to be less depended on gas suppliers for winter warming. It means that, people can harness solar energy in summers and pack it into hydrogen for winter warming.
Hydrogen economy is the most basic trend in economy-technology transition now.
We sometimes misunderstand the role of hydrogen economy when we see that some automobile manufactures right now concentrate only on electric vehicles. Yeah, hydrogen vehicles are not so profitable right now, because WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH HYDROGEN and hydrogen supplying networks. We still do not build hydrogen productions factories for renewable energy stations. How many hydrogen production factories on sites of renewable energy stations worldwide now ? May be 5-10 hydrogen production factories worldwide at this time. But when we start to build hydrogen production factories, then it is easy and quickly, and we will see that, not only a lot of hydrogen vehicles, but also HYDROGEN ANYWHERE with a lot of human sized mobility hydrogen robots and machines.
So, the giant tank is still needed and still no function for the renewable sector? hmmm...
Perfect Explanation
This was posted in March 2015. What happened to the Anion Exchange Membrane (AEM) Hydrogen Electrolyser? Why isn't it being used to generate the Hydrogen needed for Fuel Call vehicles from Renewables like Solar Panels around the world? All I see are complaints about Industrial generation of Hydrogen from Methane with its Carbon Dioxide biproduct.
@Corrigan WrongWay Hydrogen from Methane is a more polluting process than it's worth. It creates more of the same pollution than Hydrogen replacement use does; that is gas and diesel ICE vehicles. If you don't believe that Hydrogen Fuel Cells would be a better way to go than the current fossil fuels, that's you, but a clean source of Hydrogen for Fuel Cell vehicles or even ICEs is an excellent fuel or there would have been ways to produce it from water for ICE vehicles into the carburetor or fuel injection and even blasting rockets into space. It burns hotter, so ICE mixes and tolerances need to be adjusted, but it is a great fuel. I don't think you know the facts, but whatever.
What happens to the water that is not converted into hydrogen and oxygen?
When can we have one in the home
How we make AEM
How is this not in more practical use if its that efficient and cost effective?
Technological efficiency
Good bye Hydrogen Combustion Engine the new PEM is here..
Iridium, Gold and Platinum.
PEM stands for proton exchange membrane technology and for polymer electrolyte membrane, both of terms are used in hydrogen electrolysis, isn't confusing? and what is the diffirence?
I have always heard it called a proton exchange membrane. But I guess some people name it by what it does, and others name it by what it is made from. That's the difference.
Both terms stand for the same technology but they highlight different aspects about it. As an example, naming after exchanged ions (protons) distinguishes from AEM (OH-), whereas naming after eletrolyte material (polymer) distinguishes from solid oxide electrolyzer cells (e. g. zirconium dioxide).
Does Enapter AG own the patent on this technology???
Привет!
Как продвигается эта технология, сегодня?!?
Где посмотреть?
www.enapter.com/
Do you notice how these sites do not respond or give you any resource for further research? Also, without explanation they stopped all production and work in 2018... Big business buyout?
Wow.
They are using enapter's elotrolyzer. Google enapter
You mean that maybe Tesla bought it to get rid of their competition? Or do you just mean that they where just selling smoke to get money from fundraisers?
Or because it hold no validity. I am still here commenting. I’m just commenting on how stupid it is. This isn’t the only “system” out there btw conspiracy maroon, what about all the other ones?
@@arnoldhendrickson1821 what others are there?
So, this device makes hydrogen in a compressed form without a compressor. What color is that flag, you guessed it : red.
a compressor unit is probably built into their system!!! they just don't say that in the video! haha!!
which makes the hole video questionable, no tangible information in here - dismissed...
If you are not an engineer or chemist, you don't have the right to object without understanding it first.
@@Fakhrealammm WRONG!!!! You ever hear of common sense?
are you in USA ?
Would you like to know what software made this animation? Can someone help me?
Looks like Adobe after effects in combination with Adobe Illustrator. It would take much time to learn how to make an animation like this yourself. Better to contact someone who does this for a living.
How much cost of P E M
add steel wool
How come you convert the DC to AC before it reaches the electrolyser? I thought DC was the only possibility for electrolysis to work.
haha, I guess aurk didn't know. You're right Richard, you must use DC to split water. Otherwise, you get hydrogen and oxygen mixed together... talk about an explosive mixture!
I think they meant to show some of the solar panels directly connected to an electrolyzer (or, better yet, a power router that will automatically route any unused power during the day to the electrolyzer instead). This is the only scenario that makes sense since they boast that PEM or AEM electrolyzers can work with fluctuating renewable current.
Absolutely, I am assuming there is an oversight in the animation which was made.
yep u can't use AC for electrolysis, cuz AC alternates its current all the time which makes it switching from positive to negative 50/50 which in the end, nothing happens.
Since it's from 5 years ago what happens is opposing traditional energy interests edit/ hack these videos and then reupload them to be incorrect or ommit vital steps. You see this in l-ion e-bike build tutorials all the time.
@@jb5music fucking people don’t have anything better to do… wtf
i want to do some animations like this one , someone know which software could i use ?.
Adobe after effects
Adobe Illustrator
What is efficiency of AEM electrolysis process
Less tha 70 percent
How do you fuse this technology to be fused in s car's combustion chamber to lower fuel cost?
bore a hold through the manifold and plug it in or wire a pwm into the accelerator to the gen.
Honestly to convert to a hydrogen system you’d be better off running the oxygen exhaust of the electrolysis into the already equipped fuel tank and allow it to flow through the fuel lines and be injected at a rate where the pistons and the spark are timed accordingly. This would be the simplest way to convert into this system.
You dont stupid. There are already fake products that claim to do that. Do everyone a favor and keep your ideas to yourself, especially the political ones because I guarantee they are as stupid as your question.
dumb question since i dont know. do you need swap the water.or can you do it with the same water all the time?
*Yoda Yoda* What?
The process breaks down water into its two component elements.
As it does that the water is converted to hydrogen and oxygen gases and the water has to be replaced for the process to continue.
I have solar panels on my roof but I have a grid-tie system. I really wish I was off-grid but not with batteries; with a huge underground hydrogen tank instead. But fuel cell technology is way too inefficient. They don't mention that part. Electrolyzers are more than 80% efficient but, used in reverse, they have horrible efficiency. Can you imagine producing hydrogen with all your unused power and using an efficient fuel cell instead of batteries? And for heating and cooking, you could actually burn the hydrogen directly. And you could throw out your carbon monoxide detectors because H2O is the only product :)
Direct hydrogen flame will melt your cooking ware. Also your gas lines and fittings won't be suitable for hydrogen gas. The cost of retrofitting your gas a plumbing would be extremely costly.
so basically its like iv been saying for the last few years.... just adapt these hydrogen batteries into hydroelectric power plants.... everything you need if right on sight.... fresh water... constant power.... underground storage o.o' could the conditions be any more perfect.....
Same... They b*tch about how it is impossible to store hydrogen. I wonder were 'natural gas' is stored.
@@curlyhairdudeify in an industrial setting lithium 6 deuteride would be a viable storage medium... i can understand the risk of making that substance public but they work with loads of hazardous materials in industrial settings generally safe manner so just because its used as a catalyst in thermonuclear weapons doesn't mean it isn't useful for other things... its a hydrogen sponge... which solves our storage issues since when absorbed into the hydride it requires very low pressure to keep it contained and doesn't require cryogenic temperature's
30 bars, I think your supplier is Enapter, definitely no information on lifetime and degradation.
Burn it.
Cook
Heat
metal oxide frameworks.
If we separate the properties of water, will this cause the surface water level to decrease?
ok
So not just feeding power back into the home, it's also a useable gas for central heating boilers and cooking.... impressive.
Shame i have to manually find these inventions and they're not advertised like some fortnite player.
you are right about the shame - recognisable.
Aem is not a good option in the power to gas field! Not flexible
How come?
warning warning danger danger never never try to compress hho it can self ignige at 18-23 psi
They're not.....using PEM/AEM separates Hydrogen from Oxygen. So they are compressing Hydrogen only for storage. It's also supposed to be DC supply to the Electrolyser..not AC :-)
@@jeffclarke7990 where was the compressor?
You don't need all the rare minerals good excuse to jack the price up GE🙄
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they never explained how hydrogen could generate electricity!!
How does it?
@@ScienceLover1988 that's a good question!! Do you have an answer?
@@PeterPete only thing I can think of is maybe the electrons in the pure hydrogen are converted into electricity/current ?? Idk .. I wish paid more attention in high school chemistry/physics/calculus, trying to catch up now is a pain in ass
@@ScienceLover1988 i'd say there's no electrons in hydrogen at all - take a hydrogen gas sensor for example, hydrogen affects the conductivity of the material in the sensor and this electrical change is detected and translated into a reading of the presence of hydrogen!
what i'm saying is that i don't think hydrogen actually generates a potential difference!
I could be wrong. if I am could you please direct me to a video of electricity being generated by hydrogen gas! thanks!
@@PeterPete now I’m totally lost .. I really need to get back to high school chemistry and physics.. have no idea where I can find something legitimate, I look online and it’s all short clips, which go way to fast for me to really learn… I need actual books with complementary practice/workbooks for practice questions and all the works
SEE ARTIFICIAL LEAF
The bubbles appear on the electrodes so if hydrogen is released from one electrode then oxygen should be release at the same time and same for the other electrode. There are no oxygen and hydrogen bubbles moving across to their opposite electrodes. In conclusion the hydrogen and oxygen is coming from the degrading electrodes and or the electrolyte mixture. Water is not being split into H and O.
I smell something unpleasant here. Introduction suggests the video is about Hydrogen STORAGE. Did you hear one word spoken about Hydrogen "storage" ?? It is soooo sickening, really, really, sickening, to be right about a judgement just a few seconds in: the kiniving stupid voice style gave it away, but still, there is nothing satisfying about being right in this case :( ... If you have a great new process/product for "generating" Hydrogen that you want to tell/sell to everyone, then great; congratulations, I might be interested in and supportive of that. Have you got any great new processes/products in the Hydrogen "storage" department that you would like to tell/sell us about by the way ??
Do you people not understand what explosions are? Do you people ever think people forgot about the Hindenburg? Hydrogen is not a trustworthy gas it is to flammable.
Very untrustworthy. Hydrogen even fucked my wife behind my back. Never trust it again
so is gasoline
Following that argument we should also stop using methane, propane, etc. What do think natural gas is made of, that the world uses for heating and cooking? Put any flamable gas in a balloon, fly it in a thunderstorm and you'll have a problem. If you keep hydrogen in rated pipes and vessels, it's as safe as any other gas. I get sick of know-nothings that keep pointing at the Hindenburg as reason not to use hydrogen as a plausible fuel storage/transport media. We don't stop using petrol when cars burst into flames.