8:17 - not really true. I've got two "old" Phantom Golds, and not too long ago Devialet issued new software, which among other things changed the name of my speakers to Phantom I 108dB, and I think the software is the same for all these speakers now. I guess there's a chance _I'm_ wrong, though. But at any rate, my Golds are now called Phantom I 108dB in the Devialet app, and there was a "warning" when I updated the software that my speakers would be renamed.
-That said, I should add that I don't have Airplay or Airplay 2, which the new generation does. But I don't use Airplay personally, so it's not a problem for me.
I bought the Phantom Gold a month before they upgraded and renamed my speaker, but I also got Airplay in my version. I'm just a bit concerned about the new one being matt white because if I want to go stereo with it, I'll need to find a similar older version
John, I live in NYC and I've been to the Devialet store many times. As of now I own four Bluesound Pulse 2i's. I chose them over Devialet because Bluesound's software is "considered" mature. Still, there are plenty of bugs. I would love to upgrade to Devialet but the thought of investing so much money to have yet more buggy software doesn't appeal to me. I need speakers that are Roon RAT Ready, which works seamlessly with Tidal and can easily be integrated into a 4K multi-channel movie situation. What no one ever talks about is the software? What does the Devialet software look like? How does it function? How buggy is it? Are there dropouts or syncing issues? Besides stereo music could you use these speakers in a multichannel 4K movie set-up? Wireless speakers are notorious for being buggy. Do several Devialet speakers pair seamlessly? I highly doubt it. We need proof that they don't suffer from the same faults as the generation 1 speakers, which couldn't be paired even in stereo mode. These speakers cost a lot of money. They need to work seamlessly, easily, and without issues.
I had two old Phantoms. They were the first generation speakers which required Dialogue to turn them into stereo speakers. I wanted to upgrade to newer generations that allowed Apple Airplay, but the cost was prohibitive. But they are now offering an upgrade program. I am very pleased with the new speakers. Well worth the investment. With Airplay enabled, it's so much easier to use.
I am a phantom gold user. Indeed, the old phantom gold supports Apple Airplay. You may try to update the firmware to DOS 2. Be aware of that the dialog is not available after the firmware update for stereo pairing.
@@MillerLu Mine was running the up to date firmware. At this point, I no longer have the previous version. I am happy with the upgrade version. Thanks for the info.
1. It is not robust. That is a myth. The speaker caps dent easily. I took it apart. Its thin aluminum that does not spring back. Devialet does not repair anything. Dented caps on a $3200 speaker with no recourse. They are paper thin. This is going to happen to every single speaker ever produced. 2. Try opening it up to check inside or fix/ replace anything. Good luck. The speaker caps are glued on, and there is a magnetized nut deep inside. After you pry off the cap which takes 30 mins of hard work, your socket wrench flies around inside as the magnets make it slip around. After 30 mins you might get lucky and loosen it. Then you work on the second side. Two other nuts also both overtightened. Risk of shock from latent current inside as well. After you get the whole thing opened up with major surgery, you realize the dents are unfixable due to paper thin aluminum. So you cannot just press it out - it does not spring back like plastic. You just keep making smaller dents. Its futile. Permanent bad looks. 3. Overpriced, way too heavy, impossible to open, impossible to fix, this makes a great doorstop. Devialet charges $450 just to look at it, then tells you they don't fix it. Cost to mail to them in the US is over $120 for 11 kg of weight + heavy packaging. Cost of a remote is $200. For $3200 they could not include a remote control plastic disc???!!! They are greedier than the Mafia. DO NOT BUY. There are better options for a lot less. Don't be a fool with your money and get scammed. This is a fad.
Differences are based on two seperate aspects: The Design of the product and its color. Your choice should be driven by this aspect, as Phantom is going to sit in your home and it's preferable to think forward on the rest of your furniture where its going to be sit. Dimension of all version of Phantom are the same Width: 253 mm | Height: 255 mm | Depth : 343 mm Weight: 11,4 kg Its Sound Quality From this aspect, no worry all models are going to play tracks you know by heart so differently, that's thrilling! The sound quality is the same from all models and you will have same possibility to use between all models (Airplay, Bluetooth or Wifi). Only the Gold Phantom and the Phantom Opéra have a (Grade 1) Titanium tweeter driver from a specificity perspective, there are major differences between models. So only the mat finish is the new thing, i have two old gold.
Cracks me up whenever I hear an American (I am one too) bragging about having 2 phantom golds @ 9000 watts!@!@ Riiiight. Even with one you'll have to over current that room's breaker because, unless my maths wrong, the most you'll get out of a residential common breaker is 15A witch at 120v peaks at 1,800 watts. You might say, well I'll just switch it to a 20A breaker then. I'd reply that you run the risk of starting a fire unless you replace the in-wall cable to a large gauge. Even if you're dumb enough to do all that for speaker, the 5 amp jump will only land you ~2,500 watts. A far cry from the advertised 4,500 watts. They should state it boldly that you'll only ALMOST reach it with a 220v outlet. So enjoy listening to it in the kitchen or the laundry room because most houses only have the 2 receptacles @ 220v here in the US. Then again you could always install a separate sub panel with, like, a tandem 25A breaker totaling 50A (normally reserved for garages and the like) and running it with 6 gauge Romex at about $6.75/foot. Not to mention having to invent the power outlet because one doesn't exist that can carry enough current to supply 4,500 watts unless Divialet will include an Electric Range Oven cord instead. So yeah... a little over-hyped imho.
Great comparison! Do you know what the use of the different insides of the new Model is, e.g. lower ms latency for TV, more efficient power consumption, better sound, etc.? Thanks!
The presenter or the store only wants to sell. First of all: the only different component is the CPU which gives you a faster and more responsive user experience. 2nd: he said that the “old” phantom gold would not upgrade for the new software. It’s a lie. I have 2 phantom golds and besides upgrading to the latest DOS they are now called phantom I 108 (the app even poped a message after the update saying that the product changed the name) and Now we have access to roon. The amplifier, DAC and other sound processing chips, drivers and case are exactly the same. So yeah. Who has gold ones, it’s really not worth to buy new ones, unless there’s any form of upgrading them like a trade in programme.
There will soon be a trade in program to upgrade your current Phantom Premier or Reactors to the new Phantom I range. The launch date for this program will be tentatively in March 2021. This is a the perfect moment to treat yourself for an upgrade.
I would just like to comment for those who are saying about ‘less power’. The power is the same!! Devialet have only ever stated 4500w which is PEAK power… they have always been 1100w RMS, they just never stated RMW wattage, only the peak to talk about the very highest level of power. So please, don’t worry about a difference in sound, there is none, the power is the same, the sound is still amazing!
THIS is the answer i’ve been looking for, thank you! So it’s 4500W peak and 1100W rms. There’s no mention of 4500W anywhere i can find on Devialet’s website yet all the reviewers keep mentioning it, so I was confused.
A bit weird that each speaker comes with a remote. If you buy two speakers for a stereo pair, you'll have a spare volume control. Or - I guess you could have one in another room.
One question, isn't the Phantom I [108dB] stated from Devialet as 1100W as the Original Phantom (the Gold) is stated as 4500W ? So the new Phantom I lineup is lower in Watts RMS then the Orginal Phantom. Original Phantom was I think 2000W, Silver was 3000W and the Gold was 4500W. Those are crazy numbers for this size of a speaker, but what do you think about performance wise between those generations? Pro's on the new speakers = New Software, New Hardware, cons = lower in wattage. Thanks for the review, I've been planing on purchasing this bad boys for some time now. Was always looking the the gold, but....
@@premiumsounduk One thing that strikes be a little, is that Phantom I does only have Optical input as in the Phantom II (Reactor) has Analog/Digital input via 3.5mm input. Like connecting a turntable.
What no one ever talks about is the software? What does the Devialet software look like? How does it function? How buggy is it? Are there dropouts or syncing issues? Besides stereo music could you use these speakers in a multichannel 4K movie set-up? Wireless speakers are notorious for being buggy. You say they pair seamlessly but I highly doubt it. Please show us a review with these speakers in use during a multichannel set-up. We need proof that they don't suffer from the same faults as the generation 1 speakers, which couldn't be paired even in stereo mode. These speakers cost a lot of money. They need to work seamlessly, easily, and without issues.
You are too demanding. Just pay 000’s and be happy with what you get. No complaining. That’s the trend nowadays. And if the software is not supported anymore, tough luck. Just buy another one. Easy peasy.
Can you tell us how the previous generation Phantom Gold compares to the new Phantom I in-terms of sound? Are the low, mid and highs the same? Judging by what’s on paper, it’s still the same titanium tweeters and aluminium bass drivers.. nothing has changed so the sound should be little to no difference at all. In my opinion, if you have a phantom GOLD, there’s no need to upgrade to the Phantom I unless you’re just chasing the matte finishes. You’re basically just paying for the extra controller...
As far as I know, there is no difference. I went to a dealer and he told me, there were no changes to the hardware whatsoever. I´m pretty sure its mostly software, and they can update the old phantoms aswell. I bought an old glossy version, because I wanted to safe the money and liked the look more. And as far as I´m concerned, it does what it should :D
@@TheSecondProject2he gold is 4500w and the standard is 2000w (peak) rms this is 1100 for the gold and 500 for the standard. Volume wise Gold is 108db, standard is 103db, still plenty. The gold can achieve an slightly lower frequency response to 14hz instead of 16 on the standard, and it’s extra power/headroom sorts this! Sound quality on the gold is a tad better thanks to the titanium tweeter, and obviously with the increased power it’ll sound more ‘powerful’ but none the less the 103db is fantastic! As for the old gen vs new Gen. The differences are in finish, so matte instead of glossy, and you get the remote in the box etc. software is more up to date as is the Bluetooth and airplay! Hope this helps
@@techpulseYT That´s what I wanted to communicate aswell. The new version isn´t all that different. Just if you buy the silver (103dB) you get less power and non-titanium tweeter etc.
Would love to get a comparison of the old golds to the new .. has there been a noticeable change in audio quality? (I've got two Phantom Golds ~4 years old).
Hi , thank you for the unboxing and the overview . Nice to see such positive attitude despite all the negative comments . Keep up the good work . One Question : Does the new remote pair with the OLD Phantom Gold ? Thank you.
I did not notice latency problem from TV using toslink from Phantom Gold but have a variable rate on uPnP from the computer. VLC can adjust but have to do for each movie. I have been reluctant to upgrade to DOS 2 as I use Spark on a desktop computer or Windows laptop and all my sources are on the computer and I don't have an iPhone. I prefer to watch movies on 5.1 and so stuck with analogue active speakers hoping for surround sound options under Spark to get three more Phantom Golds. DOS 2 is claimed to have reduced latency and better control.
I have four Bluesound Pulse 2's. The next upgrade would be to move up to Devialet Phatom 1's. The reason why I have not made the upgrade is because the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know. I'm familiar with Bluesound software but not Devialet. It would be great if you could make a video of the Devialet app on your iPhone and iPad and how well it integrates with Roon. Thanks.
Had been waiting to see Phantom 1 in the flesh so to speak, so thanks for the unboxing. Must have been exciting! Have you had a chance to hear the Cabasse Pearl and how would it compare to the newer Phantom?
We live in a condo and are worried that we couldn’t use this speaker, obviously not turning it up all the way, without causing so much noise. Will this version help reduce the vibrations that could be felt in the ground or walls?
I wanted to downsize from my huge B&W803D3/McIntosh setup. Can these speakers pair in Stereo? Is that even necessary? I can't imagine one focal point giving a sound stage, but maybe at this price. I'm in a bass null, so sadly not much I can do unless I want it in a weird location.
Great appetizer, how does it work with the TV? Looks like no HDMI arc, so audio through optic cable or? If optical, am I correct that means I cannot control volume on the Phantom through TV remote?
Looks futuristic and sounds good. But based on the sound sample it's not the best or mind-blowing. There's a lot of better speaker with that same price.
One of the most expensive you say..? It is the most expensive because it is in a league of its own. When a speaker can handle bass as these can without losing mids and keeping the high end clean, crisp and clear you would expect to sell your soul to invest in these French speakers. Had to throw the kitchen sink out the window to invest in one of these. Remote is a gimmick thou’
Are the Gold and black Phantom I (both108 db) models able to be paired together as stereo? One Black + One Gold? Also, would this pair have any software bugs that a matching pair wouldn’t have?
Did you actually notice any difference in user experience? I have two Phantom Golds, one of which I purchased from your store last year. Also, do you know if syncing four phantoms is possible with the app, like I am currently doing with two, or will I need the dialog?
Amazing product indeed, too bad it is still unfinished! Impossible to make it work with windows 10 for example: the bluetooth ID appears as a Glucometer. After several weeks of trying to fix the problem with technical services, I ended up handing it over. Don't waist your time and money!
I have watched all of the videos I could find on the phantom, and love them all, I still think it's crazy even with a recording then playing that recording on my phone speakers it is still better quality than just listening to the music app on my phone.
Lol, that is physically impossible. I mean, it shows the clear cognitive bias in perception. You want it to sound better so it does. Let’s take a look at the reality behind this: You are listening to a source as interpreted by your device and as interpreted by the Devialet as interpreted by your device. If the source called for a low frequency to be outputted (bass sound) and you don’t hear it on your phone because it can’t handle it, it is true that the Devialet might handle it but your device will still not handle: it will not suddenly and magically deliver that sound just because it is reproducing a reproduced sound! So whatever sounds you can hear thanks to your device you will hear in both occasions, and whatever you can’t, you won’t. As simple as that. What else... we’ll, there’s DAC. And it’s true that the Devialet will have a better one so it will reproduce the sound better, but we’re still at the same spot of our earlier example: if your DAC couldn’t handle it first time, why would it handle it now? Very iffy proposition. So that leads us to the third possibility: the source. And this may indeed be it. Perhaps the recording the Devialet is playing is simply better, and your own app is playing really crappy versions. This is far more likely to be the case and shows just how important source is. Most people spend a lot of money on equipment and forget all about the main element: a clean and well-recorded source. So perhaps start by improving that? Invest in a pair of headphones and you’re already getting better results than the Devialet as used in most cases, since I bet you most people who buy this have no clue about acoustics.
They are pretty good but good god they have very minimal and very very lacking mids especially for $3500, $1200 would be the most if pay for it with that, if they get the mids it's absolutely insane but till then absolutely not worth it
@@premiumsounduk one question, in terms of real world use what’s it like using these as tv speakers? Is there lag between the picture and sound when using them wirelessly? Is there a difference in sound quality when plugging them in with an optical cable?
Micro USB?! 😐😐😐 Nah. It isn't the end of the world. But still some people will say: "Micro USB??? Trash speaker! 🥴🥴🥴" 😂 They don't know the might of this beauty! 💪😍💪
***VERY POOR REVIEW*** Well the new look is nice! HOWEVER, you did not compare it adequately. There is important features and differences you missed and could have brought up instead of PUSHING THE SALE! Rather frustrating to be honest. A few key points, difference in power 4800w original vs. 1100w (new model) - how does the sound compare at 1/4 the power!?! Secondly the reactors (smaller version) had top controls on the speakers, does the this one have the same tech or is it more simple? And if you wanted to get into a little bit deeper (not necessary on a quick review) - is the software better and how. Anyways a true review isn’t about selling the product it’s about a unbiased comparison and assessment. Which will generate trust and a following... I will wait for UNBOX THERAPY or an equivalent to do a review to get a more authentic feel for the speaker. I leave this comment Disappointed.
8:17 - not really true. I've got two "old" Phantom Golds, and not too long ago Devialet issued new software, which among other things changed the name of my speakers to Phantom I 108dB, and I think the software is the same for all these speakers now. I guess there's a chance _I'm_ wrong, though. But at any rate, my Golds are now called Phantom I 108dB in the Devialet app, and there was a "warning" when I updated the software that my speakers would be renamed.
-That said, I should add that I don't have Airplay or Airplay 2, which the new generation does. But I don't use Airplay personally, so it's not a problem for me.
Please is the phantom gold stronger than Jbl 1000???
And has a stronger bass?
I bought the Phantom Gold a month before they upgraded and renamed my speaker, but I also got Airplay in my version. I'm just a bit concerned about the new one being matt white because if I want to go stereo with it, I'll need to find a similar older version
@@iozzyi I can't imagine what it would be like to keep the matte white clean. Dirt and smudges and grease will show up instantly.
John, I live in NYC and I've been to the Devialet store many times. As of now I own four Bluesound Pulse 2i's. I chose them over Devialet because Bluesound's software is "considered" mature. Still, there are plenty of bugs. I would love to upgrade to Devialet but the thought of investing so much money to have yet more buggy software doesn't appeal to me. I need speakers that are Roon RAT Ready, which works seamlessly with Tidal and can easily be integrated into a 4K multi-channel movie situation. What no one ever talks about is the software? What does the Devialet software look like? How does it function? How buggy is it? Are there dropouts or syncing issues? Besides stereo music could you use these speakers in a multichannel 4K movie set-up? Wireless speakers are notorious for being buggy. Do several Devialet speakers pair seamlessly? I highly doubt it. We need proof that they don't suffer from the same faults as the generation 1 speakers, which couldn't be paired even in stereo mode. These speakers cost a lot of money. They need to work seamlessly, easily, and without issues.
I had two old Phantoms. They were the first generation speakers which required Dialogue to turn them into stereo speakers. I wanted to upgrade to newer generations that allowed Apple Airplay, but the cost was prohibitive. But they are now offering an upgrade program. I am very pleased with the new speakers. Well worth the investment. With Airplay enabled, it's so much easier to use.
I am a phantom gold user. Indeed, the old phantom gold supports Apple Airplay. You may try to update the firmware to DOS 2. Be aware of that the dialog is not available after the firmware update for stereo pairing.
@@MillerLu Mine was running the up to date firmware. At this point, I no longer have the previous version. I am happy with the upgrade version. Thanks for the info.
1. It is not robust. That is a myth. The speaker caps dent easily. I took it apart. Its thin aluminum that does not spring back. Devialet does not repair anything. Dented caps on a $3200 speaker with no recourse. They are paper thin. This is going to happen to every single speaker ever produced.
2. Try opening it up to check inside or fix/ replace anything. Good luck. The speaker caps are glued on, and there is a magnetized nut deep inside. After you pry off the cap which takes 30 mins of hard work, your socket wrench flies around inside as the magnets make it slip around. After 30 mins you might get lucky and loosen it. Then you work on the second side. Two other nuts also both overtightened. Risk of shock from latent current inside as well. After you get the whole thing opened up with major surgery, you realize the dents are unfixable due to paper thin aluminum. So you cannot just press it out - it does not spring back like plastic. You just keep making smaller dents. Its futile. Permanent bad looks.
3. Overpriced, way too heavy, impossible to open, impossible to fix, this makes a great doorstop. Devialet charges $450 just to look at it, then tells you they don't fix it. Cost to mail to them in the US is over $120 for 11 kg of weight + heavy packaging. Cost of a remote is $200. For $3200 they could not include a remote control plastic disc???!!! They are greedier than the Mafia.
DO NOT BUY. There are better options for a lot less. Don't be a fool with your money and get scammed. This is a fad.
Its 1100 Watt not 4500 Watt
Differences are based on two seperate aspects:
The Design of the product and its color.
Your choice should be driven by this aspect, as Phantom is going to sit in your home and it's preferable to think forward on the rest of your furniture where its going to be sit.
Dimension of all version of Phantom are the same
Width: 253 mm | Height: 255 mm | Depth : 343 mm
Weight: 11,4 kg
Its Sound Quality
From this aspect, no worry all models are going to play tracks you know by heart so differently, that's thrilling! The sound quality is the same from all models and you will have same possibility to use between all models (Airplay, Bluetooth or Wifi).
Only the Gold Phantom and the Phantom Opéra have a (Grade 1) Titanium tweeter driver
from a specificity perspective, there are major differences between models.
So only the mat finish is the new thing, i have two old gold.
MATTE, not MAT.
MAT is the carpet at your door
MATTE is the finish on your floor.
Cracks me up whenever I hear an American (I am one too) bragging about having 2 phantom golds @ 9000 watts!@!@ Riiiight. Even with one you'll have to over current that room's breaker because, unless my maths wrong, the most you'll get out of a residential common breaker is 15A witch at 120v peaks at 1,800 watts. You might say, well I'll just switch it to a 20A breaker then. I'd reply that you run the risk of starting a fire unless you replace the in-wall cable to a large gauge. Even if you're dumb enough to do all that for speaker, the 5 amp jump will only land you ~2,500 watts. A far cry from the advertised 4,500 watts. They should state it boldly that you'll only ALMOST reach it with a 220v outlet. So enjoy listening to it in the kitchen or the laundry room because most houses only have the 2 receptacles @ 220v here in the US. Then again you could always install a separate sub panel with, like, a tandem 25A breaker totaling 50A (normally reserved for garages and the like) and running it with 6 gauge Romex at about $6.75/foot. Not to mention having to invent the power outlet because one doesn't exist that can carry enough current to supply 4,500 watts unless Divialet will include an Electric Range Oven cord instead. So yeah... a little over-hyped imho.
Yeah next thing a speaker company will come out with 1 million watts speaker, and gullible public will go ahhh aaahh amazing!!!
The only video I could find of the full size phantom in matte black, so beautiful, and I want one so bad, I will get one some day.
Great comparison! Do you know what the use of the different insides of the new Model is, e.g. lower ms latency for TV, more efficient power consumption, better sound, etc.? Thanks!
The presenter or the store only wants to sell. First of all: the only different component is the CPU which gives you a faster and more responsive user experience. 2nd: he said that the “old” phantom gold would not upgrade for the new software. It’s a lie. I have 2 phantom golds and besides upgrading to the latest DOS they are now called phantom I 108 (the app even poped a message after the update saying that the product changed the name) and Now we have access to roon. The amplifier, DAC and other sound processing chips, drivers and case are exactly the same. So yeah. Who has gold ones, it’s really not worth to buy new ones, unless there’s any form of upgrading them like a trade in programme.
There will soon be a trade in program to upgrade your current Phantom Premier or Reactors to the new Phantom I range.
The launch date for this program will be tentatively in March 2021.
This is a the perfect moment to treat yourself for an upgrade.
I would just like to comment for those who are saying about ‘less power’.
The power is the same!! Devialet have only ever stated 4500w which is PEAK power… they have always been 1100w RMS, they just never stated RMW wattage, only the peak to talk about the very highest level of power. So please, don’t worry about a difference in sound, there is none, the power is the same, the sound is still amazing!
THIS is the answer i’ve been looking for, thank you! So it’s 4500W peak and 1100W rms. There’s no mention of 4500W anywhere i can find on Devialet’s website yet all the reviewers keep mentioning it, so I was confused.
fr no cap
A bit weird that each speaker comes with a remote. If you buy two speakers for a stereo pair, you'll have a spare volume control.
Or - I guess you could have one in another room.
One question, isn't the Phantom I [108dB] stated from Devialet as 1100W as the Original Phantom (the Gold) is stated as 4500W ? So the new Phantom I lineup is lower in Watts RMS then the Orginal Phantom. Original Phantom was I think 2000W, Silver was 3000W and the Gold was 4500W. Those are crazy numbers for this size of a speaker, but what do you think about performance wise between those generations? Pro's on the new speakers = New Software, New Hardware, cons = lower in wattage. Thanks for the review, I've been planing on purchasing this bad boys for some time now. Was always looking the the gold, but....
@@premiumsounduk One thing that strikes be a little, is that Phantom I does only have Optical input as in the Phantom II (Reactor) has Analog/Digital input via 3.5mm input. Like connecting a turntable.
What no one ever talks about is the software? What does the Devialet software look like? How does it function? How buggy is it? Are there dropouts or syncing issues? Besides stereo music could you use these speakers in a multichannel 4K movie set-up? Wireless speakers are notorious for being buggy. You say they pair seamlessly but I highly doubt it. Please show us a review with these speakers in use during a multichannel set-up. We need proof that they don't suffer from the same faults as the generation 1 speakers, which couldn't be paired even in stereo mode. These speakers cost a lot of money. They need to work seamlessly, easily, and without issues.
You are too demanding. Just pay 000’s and be happy with what you get. No complaining. That’s the trend nowadays.
And if the software is not supported anymore, tough luck. Just buy another one. Easy peasy.
@@kencur9690 You pretty much summed it up.
Can you tell us how the previous generation Phantom Gold compares to the new Phantom I in-terms of sound?
Are the low, mid and highs the same?
Judging by what’s on paper, it’s still the same titanium tweeters and aluminium bass drivers.. nothing has changed so the sound should be little to no difference at all. In my opinion, if you have a phantom GOLD, there’s no need to upgrade to the Phantom I unless you’re just chasing the matte finishes.
You’re basically just paying for the extra controller...
the main question is what's the audio differences between gold and phantom 1
As far as I know, there is no difference. I went to a dealer and he told me, there were no changes to the hardware whatsoever. I´m pretty sure its mostly software, and they can update the old phantoms aswell. I bought an old glossy version, because I wanted to safe the money and liked the look more. And as far as I´m concerned, it does what it should :D
@@TheSecondProject2he gold is 4500w and the standard is 2000w (peak) rms this is 1100 for the gold and 500 for the standard. Volume wise Gold is 108db, standard is 103db, still plenty. The gold can achieve an slightly lower frequency response to 14hz instead of 16 on the standard, and it’s extra power/headroom sorts this! Sound quality on the gold is a tad better thanks to the titanium tweeter, and obviously with the increased power it’ll sound more ‘powerful’ but none the less the 103db is fantastic!
As for the old gen vs new Gen. The differences are in finish, so matte instead of glossy, and you get the remote in the box etc. software is more up to date as is the Bluetooth and airplay! Hope this helps
@@techpulseYT That´s what I wanted to communicate aswell. The new version isn´t all that different.
Just if you buy the silver (103dB) you get less power and non-titanium tweeter etc.
Hello. As i know Phantom gold was 4500watt and Phantom 1 is 1100watt, right? So Phantom 1 sounds less louder ???
no dude they the same thing tbh no cap aka 4500w is the peak power and 1100w is the RMS
1100w RMS and 4500w Peak. Powerfull speaker.
😂
yup no cap
the RMS on my dual 18 speaker is 1600W RMS and the peak power is 6400W
Finally in matt black! Great comparison guys! Keep it up! Let's see more reviews!
Please , is this Phantom better than Jbl 1000 ???
And what about bass?
What is the name of the song you used
Soda - Pullin' Up
Great job guys!!! The video is great!
P.S. Alex you were born to be a CZcamsr!
How do they perform with movies/games? I have 2 gold ones (2019) but there's a delay when gaming and watching movies..
Would love to get a comparison of the old golds to the new .. has there been a noticeable change in audio quality? (I've got two Phantom Golds ~4 years old).
Very curious on how deep the bass gets? Im all bout the bass lol
@@koiiyhonze9148 14Hz so you dont hear them but you feel it inside your body
Hi , thank you for the unboxing and the overview . Nice to see such positive attitude despite all the negative comments . Keep up the good work .
One Question : Does the new remote pair with the OLD Phantom Gold ?
Thank you.
I've just received my upgraded Phantom 1 Gold exchange. One problem is the remote does not work with my Mac Mini M1.
What is the song u play at 9:10
Soda - Pullin' Up
How about latency when connecting to the TV. Does it have the same lipsync issues, or is the latency gone because the improved CPU?
I did not notice latency problem from TV using toslink from Phantom Gold but have a variable rate on uPnP from the computer. VLC can adjust but have to do for each movie. I have been reluctant to upgrade to DOS 2 as I use Spark on a desktop computer or Windows laptop and all my sources are on the computer and I don't have an iPhone.
I prefer to watch movies on 5.1 and so stuck with analogue active speakers hoping for surround sound options under Spark to get three more Phantom Golds.
DOS 2 is claimed to have reduced latency and better control.
Thanks for this amazing comparison! How come the old one is 4500w and the new “only” 1100w? What are the sacrifices?
Processing efficiency have been increased by more than 400%. Greater, higher quality output with far less wattage
@@vxtra2511 Wow! Is that it? Thanks for the answer 👍
@@premiumsounduk Alright, thank you!
It's not. The old "rating" was idiotic. It's the very same amplifier.
4500w was kind of marketing. A power outlet (in eu) provides max 3680 watt. The 1100 is the wattage it can use constantly and 4500 was a peak
I have four Bluesound Pulse 2's. The next upgrade would be to move up to Devialet Phatom 1's. The reason why I have not made the upgrade is because the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know. I'm familiar with Bluesound software but not Devialet. It would be great if you could make a video of the Devialet app on your iPhone and iPad and how well it integrates with Roon. Thanks.
Had been waiting to see Phantom 1 in the flesh so to speak, so thanks for the unboxing. Must have been exciting!
Have you had a chance to hear the Cabasse Pearl and how would it compare to the newer Phantom?
I had both, what do you want to know?
@@techtt6213 Thanks for reply. Would you consider the Pearl more musical than the Phantom? Had you heard them as stereo pairs or on their own?
@@techtt6213 I am curious too :)
Hey! Answer the question.... Dick...
We live in a condo and are worried that we couldn’t use this speaker, obviously not turning it up all the way, without causing so much noise. Will this version help reduce the vibrations that could be felt in the ground or walls?
I wanted to downsize from my huge B&W803D3/McIntosh setup. Can these speakers pair in Stereo? Is that even necessary? I can't imagine one focal point giving a sound stage, but maybe at this price. I'm in a bass null, so sadly not much I can do unless I want it in a weird location.
Soda- Pullin up. G-house nice music.
Would love to see a comparison to the phantom II (reactor 600)!!
Great appetizer, how does it work with the TV? Looks like no HDMI arc, so audio through optic cable or? If optical, am I correct that means I cannot control volume on the Phantom through TV remote?
@@premiumsounduk Thanks 👍
How you think who have more presure? 3 boombox 2 ir 1 phantom?
Holly shit that matte black finish looks nice. Absolutely gorgeous piece of tech, thank you for comparison.
How do they compare to the phantom ii is the upgrade worth it?
Oh wow matt black looks amazing🖤 great video👍🏻
Great informative review! Keep up the good work!
Micro-USB ^^ At this price and in 2021 it becomes even more awkward than it is scandalous...
Micro usb is disgusting should have never existed
does it support hi-res audio?
Wil pairing two units create stereo or just two mono speakers?
Mr. Please test song Devialet vs Bose.🙏
Sony 360 srs ra5000 make a battle video with panthom please
Looks futuristic and sounds good. But based on the sound sample it's not the best or mind-blowing. There's a lot of better speaker with that same price.
Bro this speakers is suitable for TV please give me reply
Can you do stereo pair old devialet whit new one?
Is that the same as the dark chrome?
Do you have a desplay here in the Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭how much devialet gold speaker new 2021
How much. How to buy this sounds devialet gold speaker
This is Bluetooth speaker version of dji phantom drones.
One of the most expensive you say..?
It is the most expensive because it is in a league of its own.
When a speaker can handle bass as these can without losing mids and keeping the high end clean, crisp and clear you would expect to sell your soul to invest in these French speakers.
Had to throw the kitchen sink out the window to invest in one of these.
Remote is a gimmick thou’
when unbox Devialet Phantom II ?
Raffle off the extra ones?
Are the Gold and black Phantom I (both108 db) models able to be paired together as stereo?
One Black + One Gold?
Also, would this pair have any software bugs that a matching pair wouldn’t have?
Very detailed unboxing!
What song was that
Cool new blogger, I’ll subscribe to see more interesting content
Looks so cool! 🔥
Great stuff! 👍🏻
Loved the video .
Did you actually notice any difference in user experience? I have two Phantom Golds, one of which I purchased from your store last year. Also, do you know if syncing four phantoms is possible with the app, like I am currently doing with two, or will I need the dialog?
Is no-one gona mention how his accent regularly changes from extremely Russian to extremely English?
Awesome review 👍
Compare with sony srs xb 43 plzzzz
Sony can't mach 5 yo Vifa Helsinki which is less than half the size so...
Amazing product indeed, too bad it is still unfinished! Impossible to make it work with windows 10 for example: the bluetooth ID appears as a Glucometer. After several weeks of trying to fix the problem with technical services, I ended up handing it over. Don't waist your time and money!
How are you gonna deadass not gonna play a song on it?
Wow always wanted to hear one. Can you please lend me one since the shops are closed 😂
Where the new videos?
I have watched all of the videos I could find on the phantom, and love them all, I still think it's crazy even with a recording then playing that recording on my phone speakers it is still better quality than just listening to the music app on my phone.
Lol, that is physically impossible. I mean, it shows the clear cognitive bias in perception. You want it to sound better so it does.
Let’s take a look at the reality behind this:
You are listening to a source as interpreted by your device and as interpreted by the Devialet as interpreted by your device. If the source called for a low frequency to be outputted (bass sound) and you don’t hear it on your phone because it can’t handle it, it is true that the Devialet might handle it but your device will still not handle: it will not suddenly and magically deliver that sound just because it is reproducing a reproduced sound! So whatever sounds you can hear thanks to your device you will hear in both occasions, and whatever you can’t, you won’t. As simple as that.
What else... we’ll, there’s DAC. And it’s true that the Devialet will have a better one so it will reproduce the sound better, but we’re still at the same spot of our earlier example: if your DAC couldn’t handle it first time, why would it handle it now? Very iffy proposition.
So that leads us to the third possibility: the source. And this may indeed be it. Perhaps the recording the Devialet is playing is simply better, and your own app is playing really crappy versions. This is far more likely to be the case and shows just how important source is. Most people spend a lot of money on equipment and forget all about the main element: a clean and well-recorded source. So perhaps start by improving that? Invest in a pair of headphones and you’re already getting better results than the Devialet as used in most cases, since I bet you most people who buy this have no clue about acoustics.
They are pretty good but good god they have very minimal and very very lacking mids especially for $3500, $1200 would be the most if pay for it with that, if they get the mids it's absolutely insane but till then absolutely not worth it
Thank you for this well done video
@@premiumsounduk one question, in terms of real world use what’s it like using these as tv speakers? Is there lag between the picture and sound when using them wirelessly? Is there a difference in sound quality when plugging them in with an optical cable?
@@premiumsounduk thank you so much for responding!
Work of the Devil?
Wow, incredible
Eggcellent speaker!!
For this money you can buy the naim atom and get much better sound
Micro USB?!
😐😐😐
Nah.
It isn't the end of the world.
But still some people will say:
"Micro USB???
Trash speaker!
🥴🥴🥴"
😂
They don't know the might of this beauty!
💪😍💪
There are four phantom
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Give my one 😍😍
Trees available in black too?
4500 watts.. I fucking doubt it, I doubt it makes even close to 1000 watts..
Devialet Indonesia...
@@premiumsounduk the black devialet is how many it is??
How many watts it is
@@premiumsounduk is there any Devialet plan to make speakers above 4500watts...6000watts possible?
The price is such an overkill. I would rather just get jbl partybox 1000.😌
Crazy Russian hacker is that you homie? 👀
Micro USB luxury
Hey good
It looks like a Tampax
Quoi de neuf, l'enceinte à déjà 6 ans ?????..
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Русский паря чтоль?)) Акцент дичайше русский) Но сама речь - мое почтение) Зато каждое слово понятно)
Over priced for the money and under perform for the price. Goldenear all day long
The worlds most expensive booming base box. Total rip off !
Tai
Buy and review all the bad@ss speakers and wireless buds out there
***VERY POOR REVIEW***
Well the new look is nice! HOWEVER, you did not compare it adequately. There is important features and differences you missed and could have brought up instead of PUSHING THE SALE! Rather frustrating to be honest. A few key points, difference in power 4800w original vs. 1100w (new model) - how does the sound compare at 1/4 the power!?! Secondly the reactors (smaller version) had top controls on the speakers, does the this one have the same tech or is it more simple? And if you wanted to get into a little bit deeper (not necessary on a quick review) - is the software better and how. Anyways a true review isn’t about selling the product it’s about a unbiased comparison and assessment. Which will generate trust and a following... I will wait for UNBOX THERAPY or an equivalent to do a review to get a more authentic feel for the speaker. I leave this comment Disappointed.
What a crap review ...