Hayabusa vs Carpenter Rocket III

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  • čas přidán 25. 09. 2015
  • 2 drag races - 50mph & 80mph roll ons between Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa vs TUNED UP Triumph Rocket III Roadster.
    Think the race is fixed? Watch this video;
    • Hayabusa vs Rocket III...
  • Auta a dopravní prostředky

Komentáře • 637

  • @NikolajHansen
    @NikolajHansen Před 8 lety +150

    why does this need that awfull music? the sound of the bikes is more than enough.

    • @GhostHunterWV
      @GhostHunterWV Před 7 lety

      lol

    • @SOCOAMERICANBULLYFARM
      @SOCOAMERICANBULLYFARM Před 5 lety +3

      I thought the music was cool

    • @martind349
      @martind349 Před 5 lety

      The music is to encourage you to have gay sex whilst watching other people ride motorcycles, Nikolaj Hansen.

    • @trondsagafos1329
      @trondsagafos1329 Před 5 lety

      Would not call it music, but noise...........terrible noise, got nothing to do with music......

    • @nOOBOFCONSOLe
      @nOOBOFCONSOLe Před 4 lety

      kind of ..classick videogame background music...

  • @tcclaviger
    @tcclaviger Před 8 lety +61

    For those that don't know what a 240hp Carpenter Rocket is:
    Big Custom Cams
    Ported/Polished Head
    Higher Comp Pistons (raised from 8.7 to 10.5 or more)
    Stronger Valve Springs
    Shim Under bucket conversion to safely rev to 9k instead of 6700ish
    Stronger Clutch Springs
    Custom Tune Using Hacked ECU + Power Commander 5
    Bigger Fuel Pump
    Big Diameter Headers that F L O W like mad
    There is also a 270hp kit:
    Adds a few small bits to the above and costs a bit more, but its a legit 270whp.

    • @johnnytopgun6414
      @johnnytopgun6414 Před 5 lety

      Costwise for all upgrades?

    • @oscarmuffin4322
      @oscarmuffin4322 Před 5 lety +3

      @@johnnytopgun6414 A lot.

    • @johnnytopgun6414
      @johnnytopgun6414 Před 5 lety +3

      @@oscarmuffin4322 oh bruv you've been such a big help, appreciate your comment

    • @oscarmuffin4322
      @oscarmuffin4322 Před 5 lety +3

      @@johnnytopgun6414 If thas' gonna get cocky. 210 horsepower is $4100, 240 horsepower is $4600 and 265 horsepower is $10,400

    • @rcgldr
      @rcgldr Před 5 lety

      The Rocket III is 250 lbs heavier than the Busa. If you look at power to weight ratios, including rider weight, even a first gen Busa has a better power to weight ratio. The Busa would be like a Rocket III making 273 hp.

  • @HighGear7445
    @HighGear7445 Před rokem +4

    Owned a Rocket for about 11 yrs. Fun bike but it kept your attention.
    Just a stage 1 but always had the carpenter upgrade in mind and was close to doing it but my riding days were coming to an end.
    After almost 50 years of riding bikes it was a pretty good finaly I think.
    Fun to see videos like this.
    Stock they are ridiculously detuned but still respectable...still can spook you if your not paying attention.
    Carpenter makes them what they're capable of and you better know how to hang on.

  • @2004lesk01
    @2004lesk01 Před 8 lety +42

    wow what a great video! I own 2 Busa's..
    I really didnt know how powerful a rocket it is..
    I have to admire the sheer power and presence of the Rocket. I dont think people relise Triumphs back in the day 60's 70s were the most powerful bikes in the world as they certianly know how to build powerful bikes! any how I luv my Busa, but admire British perfromance, history and brand
    great vid guys!

    • @whisperdancer
      @whisperdancer Před 5 lety

      No they weren't. In the end of the 60's a CB750 had around 10hp more than the rocket 3, and even the 2 stroke H1 500 had the same power as the rocket.

    • @Bass.Player
      @Bass.Player Před 5 lety

      @@whisperdancer and they still are not!

    • @Bass.Player
      @Bass.Player Před 5 lety +2

      @@johnspears6128 That's why they last so long!

    • @Bass.Player
      @Bass.Player Před 5 lety +1

      @@whisperdancer A friend had an H1 that would blow the doors off of anything at the time even modified 750 Honda's. He could blow by my Harley like it was sitting still, him weighting 135 lbs did not hurt...

    • @llewvirtue861
      @llewvirtue861 Před 4 lety +1

      That is far from a standard rocket3

  • @dozervin1
    @dozervin1 Před rokem +1

    I still have my 06 Triumph Rocket 3 . I'm just running a k&N filter, a mapped D&D exhaust, and a 225/55/16 B F Goodrich car tire. This bike never gets boring. Even with my 300 lb butt on it. I'm now 62 years old and bold. But not crazy. That Carpenter bike is friggin insane. LOL.

  • @RPM-xt8cg
    @RPM-xt8cg  Před 8 lety +77

    This video isn't meant to diss Hayabusa or piss fanboys off. The Hayabusa is THE benchmark for very fast bikes, that is the reason for comparison. The Rocket in this video has had its engine enhanced to be of a similar spec to the stock Busa engine, i.e. high compression pistons, aggressive cams, higher rev limit, etc. This video shows the difference between similar spec 1.3ltr engine bike and a 2.3ltr engine bike.

    • @BrunoOliveira-dy7dj
      @BrunoOliveira-dy7dj Před 8 lety +7

      Was very good!!!
      Congratulations!!!
      i'm fanboy of Triumph Rocket III !!!

    • @MrKdr500
      @MrKdr500 Před 8 lety +1

      the Busa is only a benchmark for midlife crisis bikes, 1000cc sportbikes are faster!

    • @ArtoDelFunko
      @ArtoDelFunko Před 8 lety

      +MrKdr500 there is another vid of this rocket 3 vs a ZX10r

    • @GhostHunterWV
      @GhostHunterWV Před 7 lety

      Watch what I did to a Hayabusa on my last video! Same shit! lol

    • @ApostoleSemai
      @ApostoleSemai Před 7 lety +1

      true - so many 1000cc on drag races....

  • @shaneweightman
    @shaneweightman Před 6 lety +12

    And also goes to show how fast the big Triumph is without big aerodynamic fairings to cut through the air

  • @lkbiker6223
    @lkbiker6223 Před 7 lety

    What modifications have you made to this Triumph Rocket 3?

  • @kevintaylor31
    @kevintaylor31 Před 5 lety +11

    I've owned a tuned Busa (178BHP at the rear wheel) Large airbox mods, K & N air filter, pair valve removed, Titanium competition pipe and lots of mods to make it lighter. I also own a Rocket 3 with a High flow air filter and straight through pipes. The Busa is quick but the Rocket will tear your fucking arms off. HOWEVER the Busa goes round corners and stops!
    Having said that the Rocket gives me far more smiles per mile and it turns more heads. The Busa is common as muck but the Rocket is not just holding it's value it's appreciating with every trike that's made out of these bikes. You can get a Busa for a £1000 now but you won't find a decent Rocket for less than £7500. Different strokes for different folks but the Rocket is a far more likeable animal.

    • @rcgldr
      @rcgldr Před 5 lety

      @Tony Coleman - and they're underestimating the weight of the Rocket III (800 lbs). The Busa has a better power to weigh ratio (including rider's weight).

    • @bkj427dvl
      @bkj427dvl Před 4 lety

      Agreed! Had an many supers but the rockets way more fun,,,unless your at a track😅

  • @DreadlockedBusa
    @DreadlockedBusa Před 8 lety +6

    Amazing video! I'm mind blown right now. Awesome!

    • @GhostHunterWV
      @GhostHunterWV Před 7 lety

      Not surprising though! I just destroyed a Hayabusa on my last video! Overrated bike!

    • @adrianoribeiro900
      @adrianoribeiro900 Před 7 lety +1

      DreadlockedBusa

    • @tonypate9174
      @tonypate9174 Před 6 lety

      Without "running" in to the back of it ?

  • @URSoDead2Me
    @URSoDead2Me Před 7 lety

    So a baseline of 1300cc vs 2300cc and both bikes have been modded obviously. So what is the power to weight ratio of each one as they are now?

  • @rocketmanmike1813
    @rocketmanmike1813 Před 5 lety +7

    I love the Busa, it is a beautifully powerful bike.. But I am a Rocket Roadster rider. This Rocket has been modified with an aftermarket kit from Carpenter Racing. With that on the bike, it opens that massive engine up, allows it to breathe so the rider can take full advantage of it. With that it will blow away just about anything on the street, except maybe a ninja zx 14R, but it would be close. Stock Rockets are no where near that fast or powerful. Why triumph doesn't make a sport bike with that 2300CC engine or at least make a Rocket 3 Roadster RR version with an opened up engine is beyond me and they would sell like crazy....

    • @martind349
      @martind349 Před 5 lety +6

      Perhaps mothers write letters

    • @davidcunningham00
      @davidcunningham00 Před 5 lety

      You have predicted the future my friend as of now Triumph Rocket 3 is coming out in a year with a lighter body, more aerodynamic, a bigger motor producing / 185 horsepower stock

    • @Steelpeachandtozer
      @Steelpeachandtozer Před 5 lety +1

      @@davidcunningham00 And 2500cc because 2300 isn't enough, apparently! LOL

    • @moviestudioland
      @moviestudioland Před 3 lety

      ok this explains it well. thanks mate

    • @abdulsalam338
      @abdulsalam338 Před rokem

      A built Busa motor would trash that built Rocket 3!!

  • @V8Villan
    @V8Villan Před 8 lety +20

    Great vid guys, I have a rocket roadster with a super charger over here in the uk. Great fun. The Busa is a legend of a bike and always will be. Ride safe 😊

    • @GhostHunterWV
      @GhostHunterWV Před 7 lety

      I agree!

    • @joktm1652
      @joktm1652 Před 2 lety

      hi mate how much did the whole conversation cost with the super charger i’m in the uk to and i am interested in getting mine done

  • @ljgarrison6910
    @ljgarrison6910 Před 3 lety

    You have a ridiculously fast cottage mate, awesome vid.

  • @paulgregroy1986
    @paulgregroy1986 Před 8 lety +5

    Hi! I just can't believe it to start with! Im a Triumph Guy, and i just didnt see how a Stock Rocket could be Faster then a Hayabusa.but you said you tune the rocket.Cool, love the Video

    • @Alexgomez411
      @Alexgomez411 Před 7 lety +1

      Paul Gregroy thank you for being the only cruiser guy on here that knows reality......no possible way that r3 going to pull on a busa especially 1s gen!!!!........

    • @RPM-xt8cg
      @RPM-xt8cg  Před 7 lety

      czcams.com/video/nwkGHlBeQ6U/video.html

    • @mudcodpoacher6265
      @mudcodpoacher6265 Před 5 lety +1

      @@Alexgomez411 first gens are less powerful then second gens haha

  • @NZ2STROKE
    @NZ2STROKE Před 7 lety

    So how much hp is the rocket putting out? is it turbo?

  • @moviestudioland
    @moviestudioland Před 3 lety

    love it. perfect video. which one won?

  • @user-qe9wo3mf1u
    @user-qe9wo3mf1u Před 5 lety

    What was tuned in rocket?

  • @Woodsiey
    @Woodsiey Před 7 lety

    I read that the Triumph Rocket 3 Roadster is 2,500 or 98.3 inches long which is huge. Is this true?

  • @RocketManRider
    @RocketManRider Před 8 lety

    Yep cool vid who did the mods to the rocket?

  • @bigbryan166
    @bigbryan166 Před 6 lety +8

    2:38 looks to left to see his friend. 2:39 throttles down. 2:40 Busa disappears into a spec in the rearview of the Triumph. Lol.... That Triumph is just evil!

    • @ttrguy9952
      @ttrguy9952 Před 6 lety +1

      Yup! I own a 2016 and it EATS any bike on the planet on roll ons! I killed a Ducati Diavel and the owner couldn't believe it! LOL!!!

    • @rob12449
      @rob12449 Před 5 lety +2

      personally i believe it too because 2300 vrs 1300 is a lot of displacement, and it will favor torque over hp, we all know the 1300 rips but now we can imagine what the 2300 feels like.

  • @twistedillusions2962
    @twistedillusions2962 Před 7 lety

    Music flashback, lol. Great video!

  • @paulbochian2364
    @paulbochian2364 Před 6 lety

    Both are brilliant bikes even as they come "off the shelf". Rode the Suzuki and it astonishing ! Sat on the Rocket but have yet to ride it. Top two cruisers in my book would be the rocket and the vmax. As for the busa, it is probably the most pleasant speed monster to ride: feels elegant and unjerky even with all that power and torque.
    Ride safe !

  • @davidarnold9075
    @davidarnold9075 Před 8 lety +7

    I've raced a ZX14 from a dead stop and can stay ahead of it with my Rocket for the first 3 gears.. after that, the ZX14 is gone. I only have Jardine exhaust and a PCIII, but even with a Carpenter modded Rocket, I just don't see the Hayabusa being blown away like that..

    • @tesmith47
      @tesmith47 Před 7 lety

      David Arnold p

    • @rcgldr
      @rcgldr Před 5 lety

      Depends on the rider and dealing with wheelies. Rickey Gadson is getting 1.4 seconds or less 60 foot times on a ZX-14R. 0 to 60 mph times have been around 2.6 seconds since the 1999 Hayabusa due to wheelie limitations.

  • @schkeeperglenn
    @schkeeperglenn Před 8 lety +3

    I owned a first gen Hayabusa for 6 years and now own a Rocket roadster. The Rocket has to have more than just exhaust done . What are the mods to this Rocket?

    • @nicensleazy9085
      @nicensleazy9085 Před 5 lety

      For those that don't know what a 240hp Carpenter Rocket is:
      Big Custom Cams
      Ported/Polished Head
      Higher Comp Pistons (raised from 8.7 to 10.5 or more)
      Stronger Valve Springs
      Shim Under bucket conversion to safely rev to 9k instead of 6700ish
      Stronger Clutch Springs
      Custom Tune Using Hacked ECU + Power Commander 5
      Bigger Fuel Pump
      Big Diameter Headers that F L O W like mad

  • @dozervin
    @dozervin Před 7 lety

    What pipes are you running on your Rocket?Don't think I've seen those before.

  • @davesouthey2619
    @davesouthey2619 Před 7 lety +9

    I own both horse's for courses I love em both

  • @kodonsitumorang331
    @kodonsitumorang331 Před 7 lety +4

    great video 👍

  • @samthemultimediaman
    @samthemultimediaman Před 7 lety +5

    Nice video! The engine in that Triumph Rocket 3 is a monster! id love to see a full fairing version of that bike in action.

  • @KarrsmyBoa
    @KarrsmyBoa Před 8 lety +7

    I own a 2002 hayabusa and I think this video is awesome the rocket is a fast bike without any mods when the rocket first came out it could beat the R1 to a 100

  • @eiserntorsphantomoftheoper2154

    my old gang was, me on my stage II softail, my buddy on his Rocket, another buddy on his Busa, and a dude on a 1800 VTX. The Rocket would leave the Busa like it was tied to a tree. But supposedly the Busa had higher top end. I guess we should have found longer roads. I drove the Rocket about 200 miles one day. Incredible torque.

  • @NETexasDude40
    @NETexasDude40 Před 5 lety

    Not apples to apples.
    What's the cc difference?
    Are both modified?
    Bet if they were both bone stock it would be diffrent.
    Good video. Liked the diffrent angles.

  • @brentmiller7901
    @brentmiller7901 Před 8 lety +10

    The Busa fan boys on here definitely don't know their motorcycles. You guys never heard of Carpenter Racing before and what they do to these bikes? No problem beating up a stock Busa.

    • @Alexgomez411
      @Alexgomez411 Před 7 lety

      Brent Miller so let me get this straight ur saying that the bike on this video goes in the 8sec 1/4 mile?.....hahahahahaha yeah ok would be the fastes cruiser on earth 2things not possible and never happened dude.......i say 8sec becuase thats what it would take to beat a busa as bad as this video pretends it does.......rlmao

    • @Alexgomez411
      @Alexgomez411 Před 7 lety

      Brent Miller so let me get this straight ur saying that the bike on this video goes in the 8sec 1/4 mile?.....hahahahahaha yeah ok would be the fastes cruiser on earth 2things not possible and never happened dude.......i say 8sec becuase thats what it would take to beat a busa as bad as this video pretends it does.......rlmao

    • @brentmiller7901
      @brentmiller7901 Před 7 lety

      alexis, check this: www.carpenterracing.com/RIII_SB_899.htm Please provide documentation of any "stock" busa that runs high 8's or very low 9's in the 1/4 or eat dust dude.

    • @Alexgomez411
      @Alexgomez411 Před 7 lety

      Brent Miller carpenter and you can blow me anyone can make anything run how about 7sec busas theres even 6sec busas in the 1/4....yes they have alot of money invested it all comes down to how deep ur pockets can go..

    • @Alexgomez411
      @Alexgomez411 Před 7 lety

      Brent Miller why doesn't CARPENTER RACE a race busa or at least one with the same mods show me that and ill shut the fuck up otherwise bogus like i proved it on the very first comment....this same busa is shown in solo race passes going 11mph faster in each gear but when racing ur infamous r3 its shown going 11mph slower .........like really what cheat???

  • @andrewmccarthy4144
    @andrewmccarthy4144 Před 6 lety +1

    This is not an 'apples to apples' comparison and is certainly not dissing the Suzuki, just demonstrating the old axiom: "There is no replacement for displacement". 1000cc means a lot.

  • @Bass.Player
    @Bass.Player Před 5 lety

    Have you tried a ZX14R?

  • @animalcrackersong
    @animalcrackersong Před 7 lety +2

    In a straight line !! Lol ,, Great stuff Triumph ..

  • @abhaypatil8210
    @abhaypatil8210 Před rokem

    I honestly love the Rocket III but the busa is just 🛐

  • @tcclaviger
    @tcclaviger Před 8 lety

    5252, is this the 210, 240, or 265 kit?

  • @0leitejesse
    @0leitejesse Před 7 lety

    And it's beautiful!

  • @kennethwise7108
    @kennethwise7108 Před 4 lety

    I've watched this video 5 times already, SO BAD ASS!! Couldn't help but notice that the Rocket III speedometer tops out at 140. Does the needle stop there and anything afterwards is a guessing game? Lol

    • @r-iii-rturbo9157
      @r-iii-rturbo9157 Před 4 lety +1

      On the 04-09 standard and Classic/Tourer models, I believe the needle will go past the 140mph stop. However on the Roadsters the needle hits the stop.
      Don't know about the Touring

    • @moviestudioland
      @moviestudioland Před 3 lety +1

      haha yeah. so unsafe.

    • @moviestudioland
      @moviestudioland Před 3 lety +2

      and mack in my day it was the kz900

  • @markettradinggenius
    @markettradinggenius Před rokem +1

    bye-bye busa...lol...🤣..I have the new 2022 Triumph Rocket 3R here in Hawaii and it's just a beautiful thing to behold because while all the military guys have suzuki's(and I'm NOT in the military or ever was), I have something so different that I literally, 9 out of 10 times, will get the attention while at a stop light while riding down Kalakau Ave in Waikiki Beach !!!

  • @lucyferina
    @lucyferina Před 6 lety

    I had a 650 lbs cruiser, not too fast but it got up to 150 very quickly, I didn't like the turn angle, I kept dragging foot boards, I traded for a naked bike, 400 lbs, much more power, easier to handle, much more fun to ride. And before someone comments, yes I can easily handle any bike, at 6'5" 210 lbs, reasonably fit the only bikes that I would find very heavy are the new Yamaha tourer and some of the old Hondas, Hayley's are just not that great on reliability and if you are going to pay that much might as well get something that works. So I don't care what anyone rides as long as they ride. Instead of acting like high schoolers and diss each other's bikes enjoy the fact that bikes are becoming more popular and hopefully that will make for better laws for riders and cheaper gear.

  • @OneWheelMan
    @OneWheelMan Před 7 lety +5

    What kind of power is that thing putting out? I think the rocket is only 140hp or so stock, that thing is a beast! I love my Hayabusa, but am not butthurt by the existence of other fast vehicles.

    • @gionicodella
      @gionicodella Před 6 lety

      yes, but busa has 165nm torque, and the STOCK Triumph near 225 (and this is a tuned one, 250-270 may be?)

    • @RPM-xt8cg
      @RPM-xt8cg  Před 6 lety

      Well done dude

  • @dixienormous3262
    @dixienormous3262 Před 6 lety +9

    Rocket 3 all the way no if's and's or but's.

  • @robwells5753
    @robwells5753 Před 7 lety

    whats that red shite on the tach at 4:50

  • @mwalker63
    @mwalker63 Před 7 lety

    I think this all needs to be put into perspective.... I didn't mean to diss anyone, including alexis gomez.... I was just trying to point out that with the rocket and all that weight, when the engine is opened up, it is the most powerful thing on the road. Remember the bike weighs over 900 pounds... If that doesn't say anything, I don't know what will. I love the busa ( even though I am a ZX-14R kind of guy) but now that I am older, riding a cruiser, there are very few bikes that can even compare to the power this bike puts out. In this video example, the race is from a rolling start at 50mph. That removes weight from the equation and the outcome is based on what power is left in the bike. After initial take off the busa loses its weight advantage in this type of race and easily loses to the rocket. Stock the rocket has all kinds of limiting shit with emissions controls and what not that suffocates the engine. Once you let it breathe you have all kinds of power just waiting for you. Hell, I replace my tires every 6000 miles just commuting on the damn thing. What's important is that you love the bike you have and that your comfortable on it ( damn I am so freaking PC now ). Got to admit, I rode a turbo charged ninja 14R the other day that damn straight scared the shit out of me. doing 200mph before I knew what the hell was going on. So smooth though. Ran out of expressway and had to pull back at about 245mph when I was hitting some light traffic. I love to ride, always have. Hey, don't get pissed off man... Too many people hate us bike riders anyway than for us to be turning on one another... Got to admit, if Triumph made a tricked out rocket R type bike, it would be unstoppable on a light frame and more aerodynamic.... It would be unbeatable then...

  • @Thenookachamp
    @Thenookachamp Před 8 lety +16

    even as aformer busa owner i will say thats pretty cool,id roll a rocket 3 before any harley,v-max might be cool too

    • @GhostHunterWV
      @GhostHunterWV Před 7 lety

      I agree!

    • @nicensleazy9085
      @nicensleazy9085 Před 5 lety

      I've had a V-Max, amongst many mussel bikes. Now own two bikes. GSX1400 and a Rocket. I can tell you I would not trade my Rocket for a V-Max. Harleys are a wast of time! Never owned a bike with a fairing but if I ever change my mind the Busa would be one I would like to try:)

  • @harryviking6347
    @harryviking6347 Před 6 lety +2

    the triumph has an enormous torque!

  • @tommyb6422
    @tommyb6422 Před 8 lety +3

    never under estimate a 240 hp rocket

  • @786philb
    @786philb Před 5 lety +3

    Ironic. Im a great fan of the Busa, Yet i own a Rocket. Both my choice of engines.

  • @indrajitdutta8412
    @indrajitdutta8412 Před 3 lety

    plz tell the Music name

    • @ArtoDelFunko
      @ArtoDelFunko Před 3 lety +1

      Darude - Sandstorm

    • @indrajitdutta8412
      @indrajitdutta8412 Před 3 lety

      not coming that same music .. please i request you .. give that link of the music

    • @ArtoDelFunko
      @ArtoDelFunko Před 3 lety +1

      @@indrajitdutta8412 1st music is Freestyle - Don't Stop The Rock (it's in the description), and I found the remix of it which is the 2nd music; Freestyle - Don't Stop The Rock (Friday Night Posse Remix)

  • @Drunken_Hamster
    @Drunken_Hamster Před 5 lety +2

    I'd love to see a police escape on this big warthog.

  • @ronald8008
    @ronald8008 Před 7 lety

    can someone tell me the song playing

  • @Bullet62013
    @Bullet62013 Před 6 lety +3

    Gen1 Busa- 1300cc engine max torque 101@ 7800 rpm Max hp @ 9800 rpm redline 11500
    R3R- 2300cc engine Max torque 140@ 2700 rpm Max hp @ 5300 redline 6500
    So looking at specs of the engines in these two bikes tells the story, doing same gear roll on between these two bikes means nothing, this is what I would expect to happen, bike with HUGE cc and massive torque low in the rpm range against a 1300 cc inline 4 engine, almost half the cc that's geared for 200 mph mind you and makes it's power in the upper part of the rev range. Look at the rpm of the Busa in 50 mph roll on, at the hit of the throttle (6k rpm) and how slow its pulling rpm, wrong gear the Busa should be in 1st gear to be fair as the Busa will do 80 mph in 1st gear, same problem with the 3rd gear roll on at 80 mph the Busa should be in 2nd gear and again it's too low in the rev range and isn't pulling rpm fast enough to build power. The busa rider isn't sand bagging but he's in the wrong gear to make this a fair acceleration test putting the busa at a disadvantage, these bikes have two hugely different engine characteristics and the advantage of doing a SAME GEAR ROLL ON at 50 mph obviously goes to the R3R. Do the exact same test from the SAME SPEEDS only this time click the Busa down a gear 1st for the 50 mph and 2nd for the 80 mph and the R3R can pick whatever gear it wants to start in and see what happens. I guarantee the test will go a little different, POST IT UP WHEN YOU DO IT.

    • @Bullet62013
      @Bullet62013 Před 6 lety

      I just read that the Triumph is modified to similar hp and your doing same gear roll on now that's even more ridiculous...lol. PUT THE BUSA IN THE RIGHT GEAR

    • @ttrguy9952
      @ttrguy9952 Před 6 lety

      You are correct in a lot of ways. My 2016 Rocket make 163 FT/LBS of torque at 2750 rpm. The Rocket has never been beaten in same gear roll nos with ANY bike...Period! If you read, the starter motor on my Rocket has more torque than any super bike has full on!

    • @Bullet62013
      @Bullet62013 Před 6 lety

      Rocket3Guy
      Same gear roll ons mean nothing, your just putting the busa at a disadvantage in those scenarios. You wouldn't be on the side of me on my 09 as I wouldn't be stupid enough to be in the same gear as a bike with shorter gearing and massive torque....lol. I ran 9.50's on my stock wheel based, lowered, stock motored and piped gen 1 and in the same state on my gen 2 I ran 9.28's at the drag strip. If your moded rocket can out accelerate a hayabusa like this roll on video indicates then go to the dragstrip and post your time slip, by the looks of this video you should be in the sub 8 second range. The dragstrip is dominated by busa's and the gsxr 1000's for a reason not the rocket 3. Your bike has impressive acceleration for sure but it's not a Busa, to be fair with the torque your bike makes you should be doing 2nd gear roll ons against a turbo Busa... lol

    • @r-iii-rturbo9157
      @r-iii-rturbo9157 Před 6 lety

      @Rocket3Guy i think the stories you're referring to are the ones where Triumph claim that the Rocket starter motor has more power than Triumphs first motorcycle, and the Rocket engine has more torque at idle than most superbikes do at full chat.
      I haven't read up on the actual numbers to verify these claims by Triumph, just repeating their sales pitches.

    • @ttrguy9952
      @ttrguy9952 Před 6 lety

      Starter on a 2016 Rocket puts out about 105 ftlbs of torque! Ftlbs from the Hyabusa max of 110..... In other words, it almost takes a Hyabusa to start a Rocket!! LOL!

  • @benedictroberts678
    @benedictroberts678 Před 4 lety +3

    I dont know why but the extremely 90's/00's dance music is making me smile, just fun.

  • @deeremeyer1753
    @deeremeyer1753 Před 6 lety

    A great video. If you like video of keys being turned and lights coming on.

  • @JK-qn9cr
    @JK-qn9cr Před 6 lety +2

    Hotrodding 101. There's no replacement for displacement!

    • @ttrguy9952
      @ttrguy9952 Před 6 lety

      No replacement for TORQUE!!! That's what makes it drivable.

  • @russellcupples2170
    @russellcupples2170 Před 8 lety +7

    I can't believe that Rocket done that to a Busa

  • @mathwa12062
    @mathwa12062 Před 6 lety

    Boi, someone tell me this song name

    • @ArtoDelFunko
      @ArtoDelFunko Před 6 lety

      Freestyle - Don't stop the rock - Friday night posse remix (clubland)

  • @HeyDude93gt
    @HeyDude93gt Před 6 lety

    All I know is a friend of mine has the Triumph and that Fucking thing a torque monster! And it definitely sounds different under hard acceleration

  • @Onlineghost2ohm
    @Onlineghost2ohm Před 2 měsíci

    This is my final “retirement ride” after I hang up the “crotch rockets”… 🚀 Carpenter Racing 🙌

  • @whatsongisthis5691
    @whatsongisthis5691 Před 7 lety

    wtf is with "Don't stop the rock" at like 10% volume in the background?

  • @SLAYER-nm5zw
    @SLAYER-nm5zw Před 7 lety +5

    no way!

  • @bigdaddy1400
    @bigdaddy1400 Před 8 lety

    This is all about torque!

  • @SDSWrath004
    @SDSWrath004 Před 6 lety

    choosing the gear puts the rocket at an advantage, I believe that puts the busa close to the bottom of its powerband for each race.

    • @RPM-xt8cg
      @RPM-xt8cg  Před 6 lety

      czcams.com/video/nwkGHlBeQ6U/video.html

  • @GychuPL
    @GychuPL Před 7 lety +6

    Na starcie to się zgodzę że Rocket jest lepszy, ale później wącha dym.
    Gość co jedzie tą Hayabusą albo jakiś przyjeb albo Hayabusa jest zblokowana.

    • @johnyblaszka4988
      @johnyblaszka4988 Před 7 lety +2

      w pierwszym komentarzu od góry, facet pisze (między innymi)że rocket ma silnik zrobiony tak jak hayabusa(nie zamulony fabrycznie), czyli kanały wyższe wałki kompresja zwiększona itd. Nie pisze jaką mocą dysponuje ale przypuszczam że od 240hp w góre, może nawet ponad 300

    • @GychuPL
      @GychuPL Před 7 lety

      No że rocket ma tam coś potetrane to się zgodzę.
      Szkoda że nie ściga się z taką Hayabusą co też by była po różnych przeróbkach z turbiną, kute tłoki itd.

    • @johnyblaszka4988
      @johnyblaszka4988 Před 7 lety +1

      nie rozumiesz, test miał na celu pokazać różnice/ wyższość większego silnika. konstruktorzy triumpha jak go zrobili (wcale nie chcieli wyciskać siódmych potów z silnika) ktoś pojechał nim ponad 270 ale takie prawdziwe, hajka pokazywała by z 290 na budziku(japońce bardzo oszukują na licznikach) no i stwierdzili że to i tak za szybko dla takiego motocykla wiec jeszcze go zdusili na mocy i przełożeniu, hayabusa zaś jest wyciśnięta do granic bezpieczeństwa żeby sie silnik nie rozleciał, więc ten triumph tylko dobił do haji. Jak byś chciał wyścig z turbo to jemu też by trzeba założyć i wynik dalej buł by podobny

    • @GychuPL
      @GychuPL Před 7 lety

      Ok. dzięki za info.

  • @harryviking6347
    @harryviking6347 Před 5 lety

    you tune up a 2.3 ltr engine and you have a sick torque!

  • @prakashawatare8675
    @prakashawatare8675 Před 5 lety +2

    I like it

  • @RifeDEFFilms
    @RifeDEFFilms Před 7 lety

    the stock Rocket III beats the R1 like a red headed step child in 0-60. This Rocket III is rocking a supercharged 280HP (reason for the hardened engined components). I have no doubt a dead stop head to head would be the Busa every time..But the torque on 280HP @ 4K rpms from a mid gear rolling start...not a surprise.

    • @Alexgomez411
      @Alexgomez411 Před 7 lety +1

      gerald rife yeah ok

    • @RifeDEFFilms
      @RifeDEFFilms Před 7 lety

      I am by no means calling the rocket a winner in heads up, that is not even realistic. But with the right gearing, displacement and a shit ton of supercharged love...a mid gear takeoff would give perfect power window for that massive 3 cyl. I do agree with every other point you made about the Busa. It is the speed bike benchmark.

    • @Alexgomez411
      @Alexgomez411 Před 7 lety

      gerald rife i see no supercharger

    • @Alexgomez411
      @Alexgomez411 Před 7 lety

      gerald rife in honesty i dont care if they made rockets 5.0 v8 ....i dont care if busa looses its just the way this video was made out to be its all i say is my argument and honestly lets remember busas rock a huge1300cc 4CYL......look at the 502 big block motorcycle has 9times the size of a busa ot zx14 but its not faster......why like i beens saying its geometry frame weight design just no good.....same as this r3......its a quick bike (for a cruiser ) but dont insult Suzuki by saying a 3cyl is faster.........like this bogus video says ....its all im saying busa zx12 or14 are designed to put the power as fast and efficient as possible

    • @RPM-xt8cg
      @RPM-xt8cg  Před 7 lety

      czcams.com/video/nwkGHlBeQ6U/video.html

  • @msteel2021
    @msteel2021 Před 4 lety

    I know this video hasn't seen a post in three years now, but I have both the Busa and the Rocket 3. I'm trying to decide which to put the money into. I love them both, but I think dollar per dollar, the same amount of money into the Busa will produce a far faster bike. The rocket is a bit more comfortable to ride every day, but the Busa is a bit more thrilling to ride.

    • @r-iii-rturbo9157
      @r-iii-rturbo9157 Před 4 lety +1

      Tough choice, but there is nothing like surprising and embarrassing cocky sportbikes with a fast Rocket

    • @msteel2021
      @msteel2021 Před 4 lety

      @@r-iii-rturbo9157 You're right there! The R3's are a beast, but the fact they have such massive torque still catches me by surprise at times. A little bit of dampness and it squirrels out from under me a bit. I'd be further along if I hadn't of had to spend a fortune on my teeth recently. Thanks for replying.

  • @russellcupples2170
    @russellcupples2170 Před 7 lety +16

    I've been doing research and the only way that Rocket outperformed that Busa is that the Rocket was either turbo'd or supercharged and the guy on the busa wasn't trying

    • @rickvandijk7004
      @rickvandijk7004 Před 7 lety +1

      Russell Cupples and that took you 4 months?

    • @russellcupples2170
      @russellcupples2170 Před 7 lety

      Lmao .I understand the sarcasm .

    • @dexter131
      @dexter131 Před 7 lety +2

      Russell Cupples i own a hayabusa and they were definitely making the rocket out to be better then it is. . First gear goes to 90 so to be in second @50 is bogging the engine hard.. and third gear goes to 150 so to roll at 80 in third is again choking the busa up bad. I'd be in second gear if planning a roll race at 80, first for anything less..
      This rocket 3 is a beast no matter.. especially with the added theatrics.

    • @russellcupples2170
      @russellcupples2170 Před 7 lety

      Thank you for chiming in .I knew the Busa wouldn't permit that even if it had to drive itself .Lol ... Oh yeah the Rocket is a fine remarkable machine But I knew it didn't beat the Busa .

    • @dexter131
      @dexter131 Před 7 lety +1

      Russell Cupples it's hard to say, I'd like to see a better roll race or a drag race with these two bikes, i think that rocket might be fast enough to make it a race of rider skill. I would love to have a big comfy couch rocket like that one day, it looks like too much fun, i can already picture the faces of the 600 sport bike punks

  • @oscarmuffin4322
    @oscarmuffin4322 Před 5 lety

    Japanese steel vs British iron, pretty cool.

  • @ksdad2two
    @ksdad2two Před 6 lety +2

    2300cc against 1300cc is anyone suprized?

  • @rcgldr
    @rcgldr Před 4 lety

    Why no video of the Rocket III gauges? Despite the Busa in the video being strangely slow in the video, if this is the 260 rwhp version of the Carpenter Rocket III, it may have a 0 to 60 advantage if the weight is forward and low to prevent wheelies, which is the limiting factor for the Busa (it's best time listed at Wiki is 2.47 seconds, probably ideal conditions, 2.6 is more realistic, even with a good and light rider). Busa's better aerodynamics should make it faster for a 80 to 150 pull (assuming Busa starts in 2nd gear), but for 0 to 120 mph or so, the performance would be close.

  • @joxerveliky
    @joxerveliky Před 2 lety

    Unbelievable! Your engine modifications are without a turbocharger or a supercharger, wow! How it is possible?

  • @Zer0kbps
    @Zer0kbps Před 7 lety

    music is not necessary as the bikes sounds awesome, that rocket is well tuned and it is carrying a gixxer thous worth of cc extra but i still thought the busa would take it due to gearing, higher revs and better aerodynames, the rocket is like a chest of draws with a jet engine.

  • @unkameat74
    @unkameat74 Před 7 lety

    you jamming freestyle...don't stop the rock.

  • @irekcwiklinski4485
    @irekcwiklinski4485 Před 9 měsíci

    ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @sheikhyaboooty
    @sheikhyaboooty Před 5 lety

    In 2003 or so I was riding my VFR along the Fosse Way towards Moreton . I pulled in at a Little Chef and saw a strange cruiser bike in the carpark. It was in primer grey and had no markings or clues to its maker. As I was parking my Honda a guy came out in leathers, took a glance at me and headed to this odd bike. He seemed in a hurry and was soon indicating to rejoin the Fosse. Even more puzzled I decided to follow him, after all I had a 750 V4 engine in a brilliant bike and all he had was a big silly cruiser. I realised my error as he became a dot in the distance in no time at all. It was about 6 months later when I discovered what the bike was....and why I had zero chance of catching it.

    • @ArtoDelFunko
      @ArtoDelFunko Před 5 lety

      So what bike was it??? Oh please tell us :)

    • @sheikhyaboooty
      @sheikhyaboooty Před 5 lety

      One of the first Rockets, the Triumph factory was about 30 miles away and they used the Fosse for test rides.

    • @ArtoDelFunko
      @ArtoDelFunko Před 5 lety

      @@sheikhyaboooty I see.. they must have had it unlimited speed wise then before issuing the production road bike

    • @sheikhyaboooty
      @sheikhyaboooty Před 5 lety

      No idea but even stock it would have churned out close to 150bhp and the rider knew exactly how to handle it.

  • @BobLinuxVlog
    @BobLinuxVlog Před 5 lety +3

    I'm a truck driver and the engine on the Rocket3 reminds me of a truck engine. I love the look of the beefy motor.

  • @brentmiller7901
    @brentmiller7901 Před 8 lety

    Nice vid (other than the lame music). That Rocket is faster than my turbo Rocket. It's definitely had some engine work done for it to breath better up in the higher rpm's.

  • @lucasd1646
    @lucasd1646 Před 8 lety +1

    How can someone make such a good vid and slap on it the worst and most inappropriate music...the wonder of youtube. Better without any music than this horrible choice just to be safe from the music rights youtube police, the sound of those engines is music enough.

  • @peterherrington3300
    @peterherrington3300 Před 7 lety +13

    Highly modified triumph with an extra litre against a stock busa ?
    What did you think was gonna happen ?
    Not complaining (as busa owner) but if your gonna compare , keep it real . . . . .

    • @juliandavies1413
      @juliandavies1413 Před 5 lety +3

      yeah it is ,but it still beat the busa

    • @garycopeland1798
      @garycopeland1798 Před 5 lety

      Don’t forget about the weight advantage the busa has compared to the Rocket.

  • @scwlw2169
    @scwlw2169 Před rokem

    WOW

  • @ranrio70
    @ranrio70 Před 8 lety

    KOOL!!!

  • @jimtilton7971
    @jimtilton7971 Před 7 lety

    This comparison in interesting but also not valid in that a stock bussa against an amped up rocket 3 is like comparing apples to oranges. I would like to see that rocket 3 on a 1/4 mile drag strip with a bussa ridden by some one like Johnny Turbo with similar mods and then see which bike wins.

  • @thesage1621
    @thesage1621 Před 7 lety +1

    that is raw power...

  • @demonriders6667
    @demonriders6667 Před 6 lety

    that looks like 1 bad ass chopper

  • @seasidebob1
    @seasidebob1 Před 7 lety

    Muppet u in uk then.?

  • @macclark4112
    @macclark4112 Před 7 lety

    Run the Montana Mile on a Rocket III. I love mine smooth ass acceleration

  • @edbiernot4852
    @edbiernot4852 Před 8 měsíci

    Massive

  • @raviroy3656
    @raviroy3656 Před 6 lety

    we want more fast

  • @Clearanceman2
    @Clearanceman2 Před 6 lety

    Guy I knew had a Hayabusa and he said he had to get rid of it before he got killed. I'd get killed too, I couldn't own one. You gotta know your temptations.

  • @lvcsslacker
    @lvcsslacker Před 8 lety +1

    holy crap... I do wonder though.. What if the busa was down a gear? I wonder how much difference that would have made

    • @dexter131
      @dexter131 Před 7 lety +1

      lvcsslacker it would have made it a race.. no doubt that rocket is fast but that busa was making it look good starting in to high of a gear

    • @lvcsslacker
      @lvcsslacker Před 7 lety

      enemy4 2day that was my thought. Lets let them both get near their power band, then gun it.
      Not to take away from the rocket, mind you... It's impressive too!

    • @ArtoDelFunko
      @ArtoDelFunko Před 7 lety +2

      lvcsslacker there is a busa acceleration vid on this channel and it goes from 50 to 100 in 3.1 secs starting in 1st gear, but does it in 2.9 secs starting in 2nd gear.

    • @RPM-xt8cg
      @RPM-xt8cg  Před 7 lety

      czcams.com/video/nwkGHlBeQ6U/video.html

  • @nOOBOFCONSOLe
    @nOOBOFCONSOLe Před 4 lety +1

    2:16 oh nooooooo..........

  • @rcgldr
    @rcgldr Před 4 lety

    Video of a Carpenter Rocket III with 240 rwhp kit, doing a series of runs against bikes and cars. Best run was 10.36, around 134 mph, versus a Hellcat running a 9.85, so the Rocket may have been getting a bit of a side draft. This is close, but not quite Busa speed, with a good rider, about 10 seconds at around 143 mph.
    czcams.com/video/vLP9fTZ2RV4/video.html

    • @mociczyczki
      @mociczyczki Před 4 lety

      egzacly this busa acceelration like shit i measured tacho 107 -135 what is real 100-124 mph in 3,3 sec on video while stcok 1 busa should do this in 2,5 sec =1,32x Times less power =175:1,32=132 hp ., well it not necessery was fixed assuming 3 factor rider weoght 250 kg , they go at 3 km above sea level or rocket and rocket have 300 hp because how he go away from this hb ,or hb has something damage in engine so it generate only around 140 hp gretings .

    • @mociczyczki
      @mociczyczki Před 4 lety

      stock rocket do 100-124 mph in 5 sek :D hb do this in 2,5 sec stock with speed diffrenc is bigger for hb thanks better hb aero .

  • @rcgldr
    @rcgldr Před 5 lety

    Assume a 175 lb rider. Power to weight ratio for the first gen Busa is (175 hp / (550 + 175)) ~= 0.28. Power to weight ratio for the Carpenter Rocket III is (240 hp / (800+175)) ~ 0.246, less than the Busa. Putting this into perspective, It would be like an 800 lb first gen Busa making 273 hp. So it would be close, but the Busa would out pull the Carpenter Rocket III if starting in fair gears, using gears that redline at nearly the same speed for both bikes. Stock Rocket III gearing would be too low for the Carpenter with 240 hp, 2nd redlines at around 70 to 75 mph, while 1st gear in the Busa redlines at 80 mph. So for a 50 mph pull, and assuming stock gearing for the Carpenter, it should be Busa in 1st, Carpenter in 2nd, and at 50 mph in 1st gear, the Busa would be near peak torque.

    • @r-iii-rturbo9157
      @r-iii-rturbo9157 Před 4 lety

      Stop talking shit son the busa was at it's best, click the link in the description and see

  • @michaellarsen9518
    @michaellarsen9518 Před 6 lety

    BKING 1340......2008. HAD THREE OF THEM..

  • @gie19801
    @gie19801 Před 5 lety

    Piękne

  • @fknbastages
    @fknbastages Před 7 lety

    I'm not sure who thought anything could beat the rocket III?