The Disused Sheffield District Railway Part 1 - Treeton & Catcliffe Explore
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- čas přidán 24. 05. 2022
- The Disused Sheffield District Railway Part 1 - Treeton & Catcliffe Explore
In this week's abandoned railway explore we are back in South Yorkshire. We're skirting around the Rotherham/Sheffield border to look at the story of the Sheffield District Railway.
Opening in 1900, the line was independent to the big railway companies back then. When the LD&ECR (Lancashire Derbyshire & East Coast Railway) was looking to extend into Sheffield from the Beighton Branch, they encountered objection from the Manchester, Sheffield & Lincolnshire Railway (MS&LR) - which later became the Great Central Railway and ended up owning the LD&ECR. The result was to enter Sheffield via a longer route from the East via Treeton, Catcliffe & Tinsley.
In this Part 1, we look at a bit of the history of the line and explore the old trackbed from Treeton Junction to Catcliffe Junction, over the viaduct and towards the throat of Tinsley Yard.
We pass through the site of Catcliffe Station, which closed in 1939. A double platform wooden halt in a very exposed location.
Our journey ends at the eastern entrance to the former Tinsley Yard. A large yard from the 1960s that contained a marshalling yard and traction maintenance depot.
Had a pry around there about 6 years-ish ago, before they reinstated the site as a freight depot. Interesting to see the amount of infrastructure at the Catcliffe end, electrification remains and old sleepers specifically included as well as the curve round to Rotherham. Well done for reaching it yourself.
Cheers Dave. Did they leave any track down in the yard? Wish I'd have had a nosey myself. Oh to turn the clock back.
@10:19 When I was a kid there were hundreds of old gravestones piled up just there.
Old landfill to the left is now covered in trees.
There is/was a little pond inside the triangle, I used to catch perch in there.
Rode MX bikes, along the track, from the M1 bridge @10:19 to Rother Valley.
Also used to raid the 08's at the yard for signal detonators.
Cheers Brian. Good to hear of memories of the line.
This video brought back so many memories of seeing & hearing the trains in Treeton, my best friend at the time lived in Treeton club right opposite Treeton sidings & tracks, spent hours watching the trains, didn't know you can walk across he viaduct would love to do that! So interesting what you found on your walk. Thank you. ❤😊
I spent all my childhood on that triangle. I used to fish that pond every weekend Saturday and Sunday from dusk till dawn. I also spent most of my childhood knocking about on the marshalling yards climbing the floodlight towers for bird eggs
Although the pits and many steelworks have closed, sustainable single track electric railways are required, as in Norway and Switzerland
And just where the triangle lines meet there used to be a contraption that used to grease the train wheels up when thay went over it
Nice to see some remains of the old railway lying about, and bridge abutments here and there too. Very well presented is this video, and so, many thanks for presenting it to us, Phil.
👍a pleasure as always. A fascinating piece of line left behind.
When you stood on the viaduct and talked about the new Estate 'Waverley', (which to many is a contentious issue as it was originally planned to be kept the name of Orgreave in memory of many things (!!) but it's all just memories now, even the street names on the estate bear no history to the area) you refer the the are as catcliffe (great story of the origin of the name but that's another story) but actually the area from the pub that runs alone the river to the old recreation ground was originally called Kaliforina (yes with a K!).
Also as you looked over the small bridge that rubs over station road as you look down the row of houses are called railway terrace and the end house with the high pointed roof was the station masters house.
At the end of the video where you meet the live line as you look at the 66 on the life is a very old public foot path you can follow to catcliffe /Kaliforina and up towards Handsworth in the other direction.
But if you follow it under the parkway bridge it takes you up some very old steps that lead to a end shut of the depot (long gone) and quite a few engines ran away onto the live parkway!! I have a few pictures of this!!
You could then get onto the embankment where so many people took pics of the depot
All that sadly remains now is the stairs upto the top of the path right next to the parkway,I don't know how long, or if this path will continue to exist in the future as a huge industrial area is being built on this land.
If you would like to know anything eske please let me know .
It's an area I know very very well and I have took many many photos on various visits and in declining stage states over the years (sadly only since dereliction).
I even found a part cermic overhead line conducter while exploring! Amazing area
Never knew about the Kalifornia bit.
It's been yeard since I've been up as far as that banking by the old tinsley shed. I didnt realise those steps were still there tbh,
Great info though Aston!!!!
Cracking video many thanks 👍
Thanks Steven. Glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks for another brilliant video looking faward to part 2
Glad you enjoyed it Steven. 👍🙂
Excellent video, those bases are from the overheads. I used to work over this section of line as a driver based at Thornaby in the late 80s/ early 90s . It closed mid 90s but wasn't lifted to Treeton south until the 2000s The North curve was lifted earlier. There is a strong possibility I was driving the tesco train
Looking forward to more of these
Ahhh fantastic. Double header train? Filmed on sat April 30th if that helps?
Cheers for filling in the gaps in when it closed. At least I was right about those bases for the overhead equipment. Great they're still present.
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Thanks for that. Tinsley was fantastic I wish I'd worked there when it all was open
Aye 30th April definitely me , took train from Derby to Newcastle came back to York on a packed train and did another on the Sunday back to Derby, drove car back to Norfolk and spent 5 days laid up with covid!
Train had a 88 electrio diesel on the front and a 68 diesel behind once you get to donny and the lead loco goes on electric over 9000hp absolutely flys
@@maestromanification great stuff. Not about about the covid though ☹.
Moderately interesting fact: Under that Catcliffe viaduct used to be a pottery business, where none other than Pulp used to rehearse!
Actual Pulp (off of Sheffield)!
Didn't know that 👍😀.
Great bit of trivia.
Magic stuff looked a grand day out...cheers Paul 👍
Ah was great. But not over yet.
14.26 on video got hit big time with flooding in 2007
@@mrbetamax1969 interesting you should mention the flooding. One of my lasting memories of the coverage is a helicopter camera above the viaduct
Not bad for a couple of slightly hungover dudes! Great work on the editing Paul!
😄👌. Cheers Jon. Pleasure as always.
Fantastic video, another one where I have driven along the Parkway and wondered what’s below, you keep answering my questions which is great. Did wonder if the driver spoke to you at the end? Looking forward to part two especially with the newish container yard.
Hahaha no. I didnt even notice the driver 😄. Plenty more to come in part 2.
I do remember in my much younger days you used to get decent views driving down the parkway of the end of Tinsley yard. The bridge walls seem a bit higher these days and quite a bit more overgrown that my memory serves.
About 10 year ago there was still tracks going from Treeton through to Tinsley yard, it was possible to go in the abandoned control tower from the marshallling yard.
On another note, I'm told that the company who own the new container yard are keen on reconnecting the eastern entrance back up to Treeton, so in the near future trains could once more be going over the viaduct.
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Would be great to see the line opened up again. I really hope that comes true.
You found a few bits of the signalling system left laying about. The first you show, I am not quite sure what it came off but is, a double relay base, the numbed side is where wires were locked in with a connector and the other side where a relay was plugged in. A relay is a kind of electrical switch worked by an electromagnetic coil which causes contacts to open and close. Lineside installation boxes are called Locations and have equipment connected to the signal box to prove what colour a signal is and which way points are set and to change those to other aspects or positions at 12:28 you found the remains of a valve chest and another later on. At 17:17 is a point machine, points in this area were worked by compressed air so the hydraulic barrel is actually an air cylinder with a double acting piston inside which means, like a steam locomotive, air pushes the piston from either side to throw the points either straight on or turning off called Normal or Reverse position. The control motor is the detector box and has contacts to prove the points have moved over and locked either Normal or Reverse, the contacts connect by cables to the location case and from there back to the signal box, you can see the rollers that would move and open or close contacts as the bar connected to the piston moved, just to the left of the box between the two bars you can see a metal cube on the bottom one which is a lock dog and holds the points in place so they cannot move under a train There is one for Normal and one for Reverse. At 18:14 you show relay bases from the side the relays plug into them, where the large circle hole is you can see small holes drilled out, these have different combinations so only the correct type of relay can be plugged in because the relays have pins that go into the drilled out holes. Westinghouse made these you can see their logo. At 20:40 is the other valve chest you found this time intact Inside are three vales, two valves the Lock and either a Normal or Reverse one are opened by electromagnet to allow air into one side of the points cylinder and throw the points over Those contacts in the detector box then cut off the power so the air valves close. A friend told me of this explore of a line I remember going on when it was full of freight sad to see how it was all closed and the Woodhead line as well which as you have seen ended here and the masts remains cut off the concrete bases.
Great stuff. I enjoyed reading that and thanks for taking the time to write explaining what the bits are :). They are fascinating to see left lying around.
@@WobblyRunner Thanks for your reply. It is fascinating to me as well they never recovered much when the line closed. The signal engineers usually do take their equipment away to be refurbished or scrapped The air operated points were used in many places but I don't know of anywhere they are used now.
Just sat here watching with a big mug of tea and a doorstep sarnie after a hard days PT work in my gym, and I have to say it's exactly what I need to unwind. I see it was straight in with the sleepers too, you've just got to wonder how many sleepers there are lying around the country, and I reckon you've found most of them!!! This journey was a real treasure trove of finds, it just kept turning up!!! Glad to see you weren't savaged by that rabid beast at Catcliffe Station, he was certainly barking enough. The train driver looked like he was going to have a word, did he? Looking forward to part 2, I'm sure the old platforms and station buildings are still at Brightside Station, we shall see in part 2.
👌🙂 love your replies Seamus.
I've counted 7,830 sleepers so far.
It's a great stretch of line and one I don't see talked about that much. I didn't even notice the train driver. But more to be revealed next week 😉
@@WobblyRunner Crikey, I can't even count to 7,830!!! I'm sure the station at Brightside is now a restaurant, so at least it's still getting some use.
@@seamusmcevoy2011 I didn't realise that. Are we talking about the same Brightside? It was a bit grim.
@@WobblyRunner Yes you're right, I was getting confused with Rotherham Masborough a couple of miles up the line. I think I'm right about the platforms though as I've seen them on one of those cab ride videos - if not then it's early onset dementia for me!!!!!
@@seamusmcevoy2011 all will be revealed 😉.
I do remember stopping at brightside back in the day as a youngster. And masboro too.
Can you cover Rotherham Westgate, and Sheffield Wicker station?
As luck would have it, I did start looking into both those on a series that I want to make a start on for the Sheffield & Rotherham Railway. Hopefully this summer.
Very interesting video, thanks. I've not been down there for years. You have found the end of 1500v DC overhead catenary masts for Tinsley Yard. It was a branch from Woodburn Jcn, through Attercliffe and Tinsley yard to the reception sidings (behind the Class 67/the container stack in Part 2). As far as I know, the head shunt for the sidings was electrified but it never went onto the viaduct. The electrified main line continued south of Sheffield and ended at the Woodhouse exchange sidings (not that far south of where you were).
Thanks 👍. It's great to piece it all together. Woodhouse exchange sidings, was that Rotherwood?
@@WobblyRunner Yes, I think it was also known at that.
The electrification stopped where you were stood and never went over the viaduct. There was a points/run round area for the 76s hence all the workings.
I lived very very close to here and was always amazed to see electric trains in my youth!
Is that track where the freight liner was new? Can’t see it on Google maps
Hi James. It is. I believe they only laid that headshunt within the last few years.