Let's Discuss the Aristocrats Archetype
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2023
- No decklist for this video, just a discussion of the archetype.
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"Funeral food be so good I be forgetting who tf died"
-Every Aristocrat Commander
"Black is a NECESSITY"
I'm currently building an aristocrats deck for Brenard, Ginger Sculptor, and I took that personally
He is perfect for an aristocrat strategy! I've built him as a birthing pod commander on my channel recently and the things he can do with a sacrifice outlet on the board - crazy stuff!
@@mtgspecs Reccomend looking into zubera cycle from kamigawa. I dont know if they're ""good"" but getting them all out with protean hulk and doubling the tokens brenard makes after you sac them is hilarious
@@dariasiler655 I LOVE this! I was using Zubera in my Araumi of the Dead Tide artisan deck and yes, multiples are a lot of fun! Good shout - now I have to go back to my decklist 😅
You're confusing sacrifice strategies for aristocrat strategies. They're not the same.
@@fastydave actually you're right, i kinda conflated the two archetypes 😅
I found out the hard way when I tried to commit to specifically aristocrats and found out bant really only gets lifegain off of saccing things, outside of a couple niche cards.
That being said its still fun getting 24 9/9 krakens from reef worm in one turn I've noticed
I have an all female Orzhov build with Teysa, Orzhov Scion in the command zone. Darkest hour is the funniest card with her.
Wow, I literally was just looking for how to make aristocrat decks for the new rat commander.
This is great timing!
My Aristocrats deck is Ratadrabik. Most aristocrats decks focus on making lots of tokens to sacrifice to trigger legendary creature effects. I wanted to flip that on its head and make a aristocrats deck focused on sacrificing legendary creatures to trigger lots of tokens! Its a very fun way to see lots of different legendaries in my desk and have some very different experiences each time, on top of producing some really wild boardstates like having 6 teysa karlovs.
Then WOTC released Boromir and everyone acts like its cEDH tier now
I'm looking at taking Burakos/Folk hero down the aristocrats route, so many of the good creatures for aristocrats also fit the party mechanic and burakos gives treasures
Just discovered your channel, good stuff! My Meren deck gets more and more aristocratic every time I upgrade her.
I love the archetype, but I always end up running out if gas way too early and then I'm always just top decking. I solved that problem by taking Elenda and Azor (esper colors) as my commander, which is centered around drawing cards to make my little vampire tokens. Perfect commander for aristocrats.
Interesting. I feel like I draw more cards in aristocrats decks than I do any other archetype. My problem is typically having too many options lol.
Teysa Karlov has a special place in my heart as I started playing around Ravnica Alleigance
Dude, this channel is secretly badass. Subbed.
Aristocrats is what got me into back into Magic and into commander. Toxrill, The Corrosice came out and I start watching Magic content and saw the ways to build around her and was hooked immediately.
my aristocrats deck has Myrkull as a commander. Great color identity and I don't have to really give up my creatures
As someone who mains aristocrats, I personally have 3 that I normally use. Teysa, Orzhov Scion. Athreos, God of passage, and Elenda, the Dusk Rose.
Hey fren do you have a decklist of the Teysa deck?
Haven't seen an aristocrat video in a while. This gives me more ideas. I run Teysa, Orzhov Scion, along with a painter's servant and darkest hour, and it becomes arch enemy real quick.
Great video. Im building my first commander deck and I've found some success using teysa orsov for the token generation and synergizing with white human production to sac off for creature destruction and replace with flying tokens. Its fun except against these crazy precons now lol I need more cards
I have a Beledros Witherbloom deck where I tend to burn people over the course of the game until I can untap and make a massive Torment of Hailfire or Exsanguinate play. It's super fun but I am still tinkering around and making it work to this day!
Its been a while since I built an aristocrats deck, but since Vito, Fanatic of Aclazotz just came out I'm getting back into the strategy. So far in early testing he's being a very promising pay-off. You just have to mitigate yourself to three sacrifices per turn unless you're in a situation where you don't need to max out on Vito's triggers. He's still very powerful, and I'm looking forward to playing him at my LGS on Commander night.
Great overview here. My favorite EDH deck is my Elenda aristocrats.
Elenda is such a great commander. If I didn't already have Krav & Regna, she'd be my next choice.
You mentioned picking between life stuff like vito and sanguine bond or sac stuff like grave pact and smokestack. I guess that makes sense. I have both strats in my teysa deck so ima see how focusing on the life aspect affects things
My favorite aristo-cat commander is Lurrus. extremely grindy and could hold itself against some cedh decks thanks to lurrus being the piece you're always missing for the exodia. you just need the sac outlet and a way to bring him back triggering ETBs and DTs all over.
I'm going Elas il-Kor as commander with Lurrus support for now. I may build a Lurrus standalone aristocrats deck someday.
I’m surprised no one really mentions Ria Ivor, Bane of Bladehold when talking about aristocrats. She’s a fantastic commander that I use for my aristocrats deck that can generate her own tokens and follow up with battle cry which can let me swing big and wide if I need to.
Meren of clan nel toth. Stax style with great enter the battlefield triggers.
My fav aristocrat commander is token heavy Elas Il Kor.
Jund combos + aristocrats with sek kaur at the helm.
I try to jam as many 2 card combos or 3 card combos as possible and sometimes sacrificing woodfall primus over and over wiping boards and thanks to a grave pact effect the creatures go too. While profiting a hastey 3/1 per non token death is fun.
my first (and only) deck is an aristocrats mono-black elves deck, running Nadier and Miara! The idea is to sacrifice elf tokens with nadier on board to pump him up while gaining value from those sacs. i THEN sacrifice nadier to get all those tokens back, fish nadier out of the GY or with other means (Undying Malice for example) to return him to the battlefield! i can then pop down skemfar shadowsage for INSANE aoe damage. It is NOT a good deck, but it IS a fun deck!
I'm making a Tegwyll deck but I'm looking for inspiration, I wanna build him aristocrat ofc
My fave commander for this is Xira the Golden sting.
my preferred method is to run a broken value cannon combo and not blood artist effects
I've really enjoyed post LOTR Ratadrabik. 9 Nazgul, Gollum, Boromir, and Sam provide infinite material when sacrificed while tempted. The non nazgul are their own sack outlets, either directly by effect with Boromir or via recursion into the legend rule with Gollum or Sam. Teysa, Drivnod, Mondrak, Anointed Procession, Gandalf, and Moth all provide doubling, making your nazgul army deadly and massive.
I really like Xira, the golden Sting. I tried building a good working Insect tribal deck but it rarely worked out. Now i ty to test her as a Aristocrat Deck. Any Ideas what you would run in this Deck ?
One of my best decks is a boros archangel avacyn deck. It reanimates like a beast, controls the board extremely well and of course, aristocrats everyone to death. And no one sees it coming until its too late
I need to see a list, sounds so cool!
Teysa Karlov is probably my favorite, but Baba Lysaga is sooo cool and unsuspected xD I gotta get that new Restless Cottage >:) I love that they made "Baba Yaga's" cottage perfect for Baba Lysaga haha
Now I understand what I’m doing wrong with my commander deck. I’m running token and non token creatures to sac and it’s slowing it down. I’ll tune it to what I want now, thanks!
what are your thoughts on a colorless aristocrat deck? Im trying to build a syr ginger deck I was thinking on making it either voltron or aristocrat since both sound fun. It has been complicated to find a lot of good card for it without black as you mention in the video
It's not really possible. I should've devoted part of the video to explain the difference between Sacrifice decks and Aristocrat decks. Sacrifice decks, you're sacrificing permanents to pay for effects, like drawing cards or mana for spells or whatever. Aristocrat decks, you're sacrificing creatures to deal damage to your opponents. Oftentimes, those effects that deal damage also gain you life, so you've got strong synergies with cards like Diva and Vito. But since you're wanting to go the colorless route, you can't really build an Aristocrats deck.
I have an aristocrats like deck built focused around Kresh the Bloodbraided. Sure it's not your traditional type of Aristocrats. But I still want to sacrifice creatures to make Kresh go big and then smack people in the face for commander Damage. Any damage or other effects that happens is just a bonus~
Azorious is disgusting as well.
My sort of Aristocrats deck is Ayara, oops creatures. They ETB drain the table then kill a creature. I can then sac them to draw a card, along with other effects that drain the table.
I love the aristocrat archetype I run Savra the Golgari Queen in one deck and in the other y run Teysa Karlov
I personally prefer Rakdos aristocrats, red provide board control engines. Orzov just dont have such staples as mayhem devil and goblin bombardment.
I built a Judith the scourge diva aristocrats deck recently and i found that the amourøse of triggers and decisions involved when either a boardwipe happend or just deciding which creatures to sac, was too complex that i actually got a headache. Maybe i did not have enough fodder. All my guys basicly said “when a creature dies x happend”. But i didnt want to sac either zulaport, blood artist, body launderer, grim haruspex, Judith her self, or yahenni… and when the boardwipe finally happend i got so confused that i directed all of Judith triggers of damage to the Myrkul, Lord of bones player, this helping him alot lol. Ended up making his mother of Runes and elvish mystic into enchantment versions… doh!
Havent played the deck since.
Having watched the video now, i think that my problem is partly my commander Judith. She wants to go wide (with tokens) to buff them. But she also wants to sac non token creatures to trigger her Ping ability.
I built her because she was fun in standard with footlight fiend and mayhem devil and such. But in edh i dont think she is the best choice. Maybe she needs way more recursive elements then i included but i think I would be better served choosing another commander. Maybe that angel…
I run Liesa Forgotten Archangel, but instead of the usual tiny aristocrats, I run her with the big 5+ drop angels and shoot them out reactively on my opponent’s turn with Amulets and portal artifacts. All the angels have massive ETB triggers and I can even reactively sacrifice them when threatened with exile removal with Fallen Angel or Reaper of Flight Moonsilver.
Because it’s Orzov angels I also happen to get a lot of 1/1 spirit tokens on death triggers or etb, because of this, I can kind of recur tokens. And eventually I can go infinite with Divine Visitation which has the added benefit of comboing with all my Angel tribal effects
Love it!
hehe we were just talking about this!
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I don't build decks anymore because I don't know how to build something that ISN'T aristocrats.
The last one I built is Teysa. Basically once I set up the board, I drop Teysa and go off by sacrificing creatures that make tokens when they die and zulaport cutthroat effects. Doubling death triggers gets out of hand way faster than most people think they do.
I miss my Savra deck
athreos its my favorite
Wort, Boggart Auntie goblin aristocrats.
Not an aristocrat, but right now my favorite commander is Karn legacy reforged. A voltron deck. Im very proud of it.
@ 6:38, neither of them, i am poor :D
Gilbert gotfried did it better
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Profile pic checks out. You are 100% a clown.
Worst type of person right here
Get to the point. Music doesn't fit.