What is Pomp Rock? (w/Martin Popoff)

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  • Join Pete Pardo & Martin Popoff as they discuss this thing called 'pomp rock'...what is it, why is it, and some of the bands associated with this style of music. #pomprock
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  • @jasonmarkle9016
    @jasonmarkle9016 Před rokem +32

    3 times in one week with Mr. Popoff on the show.. good week :)

  • @ykmgeedee
    @ykmgeedee Před rokem +28

    Must take a while Martin to pick out dozens and dozens of props out of a zillion albums. Really appreciate all your contributions to the Funhouse!

  • @johnstucky2168
    @johnstucky2168 Před rokem +15

    Love you guys, but not clear on why Queen wouldn’t be on the (top) list. They’re one of the first bands I think of when it comes to pomp.

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 Před rokem +3

      Absolutely - the early stuff

  • @williamwalker146
    @williamwalker146 Před rokem +7

    Magnum and New England are two of the best bands I can think of that blend hard hard rock, progressive rock elements, and radio friendly AOR into one thing. Incredible bands, two of my favorites.

  • @747jono
    @747jono Před rokem +3

    Been a Magnum fan for years

  • @karlnordstrom4918
    @karlnordstrom4918 Před rokem +8

    Just this summer I have been deep diving into the Tony Carey solo catalog (former keyboardist for Rainbow). I think, based on these descriptions of POMP rock, his solo stuff could land in that category. He had some great solo stuff. Became a great songwriter and producer and really has a cool voice. He may not have the POMP rock star look, but his band sure did and his songs have that keyboard driven with soaring harmony vocals.

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 Před rokem +3

      My Tony Carey playlist: 6 Planet P Project albums, 6 solo albums, the Rainbow stuff of course. About 70 total tracks. The Planet P stuff is great...

  • @daveycretin664
    @daveycretin664 Před rokem +11

    Happy 46th anniversary to the ultimate pomp rock album: The Grand Illusion by STYX! Released 7/7/77.

    • @j.woodbury412
      @j.woodbury412 Před rokem +1

      And it's their 7th studio album. Wouldn't it be wild if it was recorded at 7:00 a.m. ?

    • @markrushton1516
      @markrushton1516 Před rokem +2

      Absolutely defines that style along with pieces of eight. Kansas may come 2nd with point of no return

  • @michaelsullivan5763
    @michaelsullivan5763 Před rokem +2

    Martin I saw Roadmaster with Blue Oyster Cult & Pat Travers In Seattle on August 12 1979 It was a really cool concert

  • @gaznathemoon1128
    @gaznathemoon1128 Před rokem +6

    That Loverboy debut is so good, wore that cassette out back in the day! Still love it. Split Enz's Dizrythmia is full of pomp, leaning more on the new wave side. Their first album Mental Notes definitely would be pompy prog rock. If you don't have that album Martin, you need to get it!!!!!

  • @christianhaynes1954
    @christianhaynes1954 Před rokem +2

    Another college music class from professors Pardo and Popoff . So much to learn .... So little time . Thanks gentlemen !

  • @atmaweapon2803
    @atmaweapon2803 Před rokem +5

    Martin Popoff described pomp rock in one of his books as "pomp and circus pants" and I dont know why, but that's stuck with me forever. 😅

    • @MartinPopoff
      @MartinPopoff Před rokem +4

      It's a play on pomp and circumstance - but I mighta read it first in Kerrang!.

    • @atmaweapon2803
      @atmaweapon2803 Před rokem

      @@MartinPopoff right lol. It's a great image.

  • @atmaweapon2803
    @atmaweapon2803 Před rokem +1

    Oh, I almost forgot to mention. One of my favorite pomp rock bands were almost overlooked by this video: the American band Touch.
    They had a brief 15 minutes of fame with an amazing pomp rock hit single, "Don't You Know What Love Is?" and a spot opening the first Monsters of Rock festival.
    I'm surprised they were only briefly mentioned in the honorable mentions. Both their debut album and the originally unreleased (now released) second album, Touch II, produced by Todd Rundgren, are massive classics. Just full of pomp rock bangers, soaring guitars, keyboards for miles (the keyboardist went on to play on Rainbow's Bent Out of Shape).
    It's funny, another band in the honorable mentions, American Tears, I believe ended up becoming Touch later on, improving significantly in the process.

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci

      The Touch album is a Classic in Pomp Rock circles. Along with Arc Angel, The First Prophet album, New England - Explorer Suite and My all time Favorite Trillion - Clear Approach. The best American Tears album is Powerhouse. With 2 songs later done on the Touch album.

  • @sspbrazil
    @sspbrazil Před rokem +4

    John Waite’s “Ignition” is a great album and it has both Ivan Kral and the great session guitarist Tim Pierce playing on it. Holly Knight wrote the big hit “Change” on that album too.

  • @rooftopmike
    @rooftopmike Před 11 měsíci +1

    I think Streets would fall into this category. Eighties production, keyboard heavy, Mike Slamer on guitar and Steve Walsh on vocals...good stuff.

  • @747jono
    @747jono Před rokem +2

    You guys always unearth some gems

  • @colinrgage
    @colinrgage Před rokem +12

    Gotta give credit to SOT dunno how you manage to keep coming up with different topics 😊

  • @alouetteboy
    @alouetteboy Před rokem +1

    I'd like to hear the guys break down bands that have been around and putting out albums forever, like 30-40+ years that never had any substantial success. I can think of a bunch of them.

  • @13down13
    @13down13 Před 11 měsíci +1

    This show is right in my wheelhouse. I like many popular bands, but I also like many of the groups you mentioned. Most, in fact. You did mention a few that I didn't really know, so I previewed them on a website I get MP3's from. I couldn't stand the singer in Pavlov's Dog. However, I liked what I heard with Alpha Centauri, the Hounds, Trickster, and Magnum. I am a big fan of 707 and Roadmaster, which were mentioned briefly - two of my favorites. I also think that Steel Breeze would fall into this category - at least the first album with the two top 40 hits. Shooting when Gary West was in the band qualifies to me - love them too. Touch, which has one minor hit, and Sterliing, which is band I just happened to find, probably qualify too. There was a band which included the first appearance of guitarist Mike Batio, and that is Holland. The album is Little Monsters and it is pretty good.
    You guys were trying to show that maybe 1979 was a common time for these artists. I would go further and say that the period from 1978-1982 has much of this music. Even bands that did other things had albums around this period that could be considered "pomp". Some of Toto fits here - especially Isolation and some others, maybe IV. Newer artists like the Darkness and Mika kinda belong here too - at least both of those bands first couple albums. You mentioned ELO, but they are firmly here after the classical proggy period was over. Most people don't like ABBA, much less would consider them a rock band, but they did many songs that sound very "pomp" and they had a few songs that rocked.

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci

      The first 707 album is my favorite. Sweet Music and Hey World by Roadmaster are their best. The title song and Higher higher are Pomp of the highest order. The first Steel Breeze has some great songs. Especially Who,s gonna love you tonight. Very pompous like 707. Touch album is a Pomp Rock Classic. One of the best. I own the original and Rare Alpha Centauri album on vinyl. Some Great songs. Like Uriah Heep. Magnum is perfection. Not a bad album. The first Shooting Star and Silent Scream are my favorite albums by them.Last Chance is Pomp Rock of the highest order. Their best song ever.

  • @peterhansen1358
    @peterhansen1358 Před rokem +1

    Very interesting discussion. Some of the bands mentioned I have never heard of before. Have now been listening to Prism and Aviary. Not bad although not top shelf. Always fun to listen to band you didn’t discover back in the days

  • @andrewcarr5923
    @andrewcarr5923 Před rokem +6

    Sparks by their very nature are the definition of pomp for me at least, Russel's dramatic phrasing and theatrical movements and Ron's posed stares, suits and questionable facial hair and that's before we even get started on the songs which of course reek of pomposity.

  • @craigburgess7105
    @craigburgess7105 Před 8 měsíci

    Great episode 👍 lots of stuff I didn't know about in this one. Superb

  • @chrisharris-pr5oi
    @chrisharris-pr5oi Před rokem +4

    Loving this topic something a little different.

  • @mikebruce3933
    @mikebruce3933 Před rokem +1

    Loved this episode guys.
    While they might not be a pomp band, Leftoverture by Kansas is a great pomp album.
    Thanks to Martin for mentioning Hellfield. I thought I'd dreamt them being a band!
    My wishlist has grown massively thanks to this episode.

  • @johnmichaelwilliams6694
    @johnmichaelwilliams6694 Před rokem +4

    Popoff and Pardo are at it again and presenting a parade of pomp. Alliterative reference aside, Martin and Pete discuss a topic of yet another genre of music with an interesting discussion of the history and tending traits of the genre. And now will likely never here Revelry the same again without thinking of Martin's trumpeting. Thanks again, gents, the continued quality of this Friday series and all the time invested in making episodes such as this one. Looking forward to Pete posting the list of albums and/or bands discussed for further listening. There ya go!

  • @jasonrandell6523
    @jasonrandell6523 Před rokem +1

    Great episode...a few bands for me to check out. Really like Ambrosia so far 👍

  • @abe3802
    @abe3802 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for City Boy! One of may all time fave bands!

    • @treff9226
      @treff9226 Před rokem +1

      Brilliant musicians - City Boy are a secret treasure in the music universe!

  • @richardthorne2804
    @richardthorne2804 Před rokem +2

    I was literally just talking to my son about pomp rock and how Styx and Kansas were considered the definition of that kind of music. Great episode

    • @katesjanice
      @katesjanice Před 10 měsíci

      Kansas????? NO! They were a prog band.

    • @richardthorne2804
      @richardthorne2804 Před 10 měsíci

      @@katesjanice Google it .. and read the first 2 articles both Styx and Kansas were considered POMP

  • @nicolas_le_fourbe
    @nicolas_le_fourbe Před rokem +7

    Thanks for the always interesting videos! Don’t know if it fits your definition of pomp rock, but in my book MEAT LOAF are highly pomp.

  • @wolf1977
    @wolf1977 Před rokem +5

    One example that didn't occur to me right away but does now, and I think fits well: Meatloaf. Crossing rock/prog with Broadway...

    • @guarddl9522
      @guarddl9522 Před rokem +1

      Don't remember if he was mentioned. Fits the bill with the theatrical flair.

  • @DonHornsby
    @DonHornsby Před rokem +1

    Wow. What a great conversation. As I listened to this, I have to wonder if Crack The Sky would be more "Pomp Rock"? They always seemed to be more like a Canadian band to me.

  • @christianman73
    @christianman73 Před rokem +2

    Great show, Pete and Martin! I love pomp rock, but I've never really ventured beyond the big groups, such as Queen, Styx, and Kansas (I consider Queen and Kansas to both be pomp rock, rather than strict prog, due to their combinations of hard rock, pop, and prog). Thanks to this episode, I just ordered CDs from New England, Touch, Trillion, and Zon! My wallet is hurting, but I'm still grateful! 🙂

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci +1

      New England - Explorer Suite, Touch - same, Trillion - Clear Approach and Zon - Astral Projector, are Pomp Rock Classics. I own on Vinyl.

  • @motleyfan7558
    @motleyfan7558 Před rokem +1

    Martin and Pete are 😊the best. These two guys should have a talk show on XM radio

  • @brucybabyy7355
    @brucybabyy7355 Před rokem +2

    happy you mentioned Pavlov's dog. i had the honor of meeting david surkamp and ian mathews when they were i n the band HI FI such nice people. david signed my OG copy of " pampered menial "

    • @stephenparker9434
      @stephenparker9434 Před rokem +2

      Pavlov's Dog - great band. One of those US bands who are more revered in Europe than in their own homeland, like The Velvet Underground and Sparks. Albums 'Pampered Menial' and ' The Sound of the Bell' are really good albums.

    • @davej.meister5421
      @davej.meister5421 Před rokem

      @@stephenparker9434 I cannot get past Pavlov's Dog's singer's screechy voice. WAY higher than Geddy Lee's.

  • @PaulMcGarry-bo3jg
    @PaulMcGarry-bo3jg Před 10 měsíci

    A lot of these bands use Emersonian trumpet flourishes. Super episode.

  • @marks.3934
    @marks.3934 Před rokem +8

    To me Queen is the oriiginal Pomp band. Who is more Pomp than Freddie Mercury? Killer Queen first huge Pomp song.

  • @iainhead9898
    @iainhead9898 Před rokem +3

    Not sure if they get a mention, but the first two albums by ZON need to be on the list, Astral Projector ( still have the original LP on blue vinyl!) And Back Down To Earth.
    Good to see bands like Arcangel, Touch and New England getting some love on SoT too! Lots of others, TRILLION, 707, WHITE SISTER, LE ROUX...

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 Před rokem +1

      Zon for sure & Touch, also Trillion. New England maybe (certain tracks)...I like Re Roux a lot (if we're talking about the Louisiana band = Ain't Nothing But A Gris Gris, Louisiana's Le Roux, Last Safe Place, Keep The Fire Burnin', Up & Higher Up) but don't find them particularly 'pomp-y' (not enough prog influences for pomp). More Southern pop/AOR - good stuff! Like a stew of Little Feat, ARS, Firefall & Journey (the Steve Perry band). Actually one of the better AOR bands around. Their cover of "Rock N Roll Woman" is excellent. Just got their compilation called The Session Years - they cover Spirit's "I Got A Line On You"

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci

      Especially Astral Projector by Zon. I own the blue vinyl too. It did get a mention. It,s a Classic. Arcangel, Touch, Trillion, New England and the first 707 are Classics too. Le Roux, i consider more AOR than Pomp. I like the 2nd Trillion album Clear Approach much more than their first. Great composed songs, intricate arrangements and outstanding Musicianship. The same goes for New England. Explorer Suite is much beter than their first. Best from the Netherlands.

    • @iainhead9898
      @iainhead9898 Před 11 měsíci

      @@ssRocker-nn3tp Thanks, with you on Clear Approach for sure. The ALPHA CENTAURI album us also great, and, if you know it, the CINEMA FACE debut too - Why Be Sorry? has a huge pomp chorus I never tire of...

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci

      The Cinema Face album is one of my favorite Can. Pomp Rock albums in my vinyl collection. And in general. Why Be Sorry is my favorite too. I also have the original Alpha Centauri album. To me, they sound a lot like Uriah Heep. @@iainhead9898

  • @ronbo11
    @ronbo11 Před rokem +1

    The Who ("Face Dances", "It's Hard") and Pete Townshend ("Empty Glass") were mentioned. Another album that has a pomp rock type of sound is Pete's "All the Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes". "Uniforms (Corp d'Esprit)", "Face Dances, Pt. 2", "Stardom in Acton" and "Communication" seem to fit the bill very well.

  • @pedrochao
    @pedrochao Před rokem +3

    Martin's the ultimate master in uttering the most vacuous statements with dexterous eloquence.
    Perfectly fitting for this video's topic. Incidentally, it's funny (ironically so?) how they've both consistently stated to favor this style of music throughout their youtube history. Especially Pete,
    if you ask me, pomp rock is what represents them the most, it's what they're really about deep down.

  • @scottmcgregor4829
    @scottmcgregor4829 Před rokem +1

    The most fascinating thing about this show is we are talking about a genre of music in which most of these bands cannot be mistaken for each other. I also always thought that Toto reminded me of a yacht rock group with louder guitars.. I will also throw one of my favorite bands from the early 80a known as The Producers.

    • @davej.meister5421
      @davej.meister5421 Před rokem +2

      Toto's first three albums had a lot of prog-rock elements in their songs. Definitely pomp-rock, imo.

    • @scottmcgregor4829
      @scottmcgregor4829 Před rokem

      @@davej.meister5421 they sure did.

  • @briancox8518
    @briancox8518 Před 11 měsíci

    QUEEN definitely

  • @micolsen9824
    @micolsen9824 Před rokem +2

    43:15...
    ASIA, POMP Rock perfection.

  • @PaulMcGarry-bo3jg
    @PaulMcGarry-bo3jg Před 10 měsíci +1

    One I think worth including are Lonestar (UK).

  • @747jono
    @747jono Před rokem +2

    New England wow again amazing

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci +1

      My favorite is Explorer Suite. Very pompous. Lots of synths. Great songs. Like the title track.

  • @Wayner71
    @Wayner71 Před rokem +1

    There's a lot of subtle satire in this video. I'm liking it.

  • @murreygellmann7708
    @murreygellmann7708 Před rokem +4

    Sparks for sure

    • @gaznathemoon1128
      @gaznathemoon1128 Před rokem +1

      I was thinking of them too. Great band!!!!!!

    • @Bwarock
      @Bwarock Před rokem

      Good band, but not pomp. Arty pop.

  • @noddynewbold
    @noddynewbold Před rokem +1

    Great episode chaps! Band not mentioned hear (but did crop up in the comments) Grand Prix, totally Pomp! Band mentioned but not really expanded on that deserve more investigation Roadmaster, especially the Hey World LP. Totally right re the Babys too Martin, one of my top 10 songs EVER, Union Jack.

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci +1

      Grand Prix. All 3 albums are really good. Along with Magnum, the best from the early 80s. In this catagory.

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci +1

      Sweet Music and Hey World are Pomp Rock of the highest order.Roadmaster is very underrated.

  • @katesjanice
    @katesjanice Před 10 měsíci

    David Pack of Ambrosia sang the first song on Kerry Livgren’s first solo album- Seeds of Change (and the re-release-Decade 1). Ronnie James Dio sang 2 of the songs on the album. Terrific!

  • @chriswoosley1697
    @chriswoosley1697 Před rokem +1

    late 70's Kansas,Monolith 1979.-Elaphante era......and Shooting Star ,...1980-85,..definitely

  • @WhizzRichardThompson
    @WhizzRichardThompson Před rokem +3

    I've only heard and got their first album, but House of Lords must surely fit the pomp rock tag.

    • @jkbaca41
      @jkbaca41 Před rokem +2

      One would think that. Especially seeing how a few of those songs were supposed to be for the third Giuffria album, Pleasure Palace, before David Glen Eisley was fired. If you ever see the DGE album The Lost Tapes, get it. Some of those songs are on it.

  • @stephenparker9434
    @stephenparker9434 Před rokem +2

    Good selection of pomp rock bands guys. I would say two bands I like of the 1970s had pomp rock elements . Barclay James Harvest (UK) and Pavlov's Dog (US). Prog, with AOR song structures and melodious bombastic instrumentation featuring keyboards with rock guitar. Pete's spot on with Magnum. I saw them in a small venue a few years back. To some extent the genre of Pomp rock is ear candy for those discerning listeners who profess to like sophisticated grandiose symphonic rock but not out and out ardous prog, such as Van Der Graaf Generator or King Crimson.

  • @richardchestney4947
    @richardchestney4947 Před rokem +1

    One that's debatable and hasn't been mentioned is John Lawton-era Uriah Heep, I feel that there's Pomp on certain songs on the "Fallen Angel" album at least.

  • @747jono
    @747jono Před rokem

    Greg Guiffria wow what a keyboard player amazing ❤

  • @michaelbaucom4019
    @michaelbaucom4019 Před rokem +3

    ELP
    Early Yes
    Queen

  • @brianmorrison2578
    @brianmorrison2578 Před rokem

    A lot of these albums that were mentioned have gotten the Rock Candy remastered treatment and they sound even better than they originally did back in the day.

  • @ik8034
    @ik8034 Před rokem

    Cats in Space and Night Flight Orchestra, still have that "Pomp Rock" vibe for the 2000's.

  • @carle9924
    @carle9924 Před rokem +2

    I love city boy. it's the perfect mix between Pop rock,pomp and prog rock to me

    • @treff9226
      @treff9226 Před rokem +1

      Love City Boy big time! Very unique and highly smart songwriting. So versatile, never tire of playing their full catalog! Nice post! We have great taste!

    • @carle9924
      @carle9924 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@treff9226 He he we definitely have great taste 😎

  • @asdfzxcv3617
    @asdfzxcv3617 Před rokem +2

    In Italy we call this genre "Arena rock".

  • @americathisweek.6077
    @americathisweek.6077 Před rokem +5

    Queen ?

  • @747jono
    @747jono Před rokem

    Here in the UK Geoff Barton from Kerrang coined the phrase "Pomp Rock lives run for Hills "Styx Starcastle Zon etc

  • @atmaweapon2803
    @atmaweapon2803 Před rokem

    Another forgotten band of the pomp era is Pages, who kind of straddle between pomp and yacht rock, but absolutely have some songs on the hard rock end of the scale. The band is notable for being the first recording project of the two guys who went on to form Mr. Mister, completely changing their look in the process from late seventies Chachi meets Chewbacca to supercool eighties guys. They made three albums.

  • @parishofrock2963
    @parishofrock2963 Před rokem +1

    I’ve been watching SOT for a few years & never heard you mention Pomp Rock until this week, so I always assumed it was a British term, coined by Sounds. So I’m really looking forward to see if your view of Pomp coincides with my own.

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 Před rokem +1

      From what I've read it was a British term coined by Melody Maker in the mid 70's, and applied mainly to US bands

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 Před rokem

      @@wolf1977may well have been MM. I bought both back in the day so could have been either.

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 Před rokem +2

      Having now watched the show, I’ve concluded that Pomp stands for Pop Orientated Melodic Prog rock 🤣

  • @ledzeplover58
    @ledzeplover58 Před rokem +2

    Touch and Roadmaster are the epitome of pomp.

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci +1

      The Touch album is Pomp Rock of the highest order. The same goes for Trillion - Clear Approach, Arc Angel, The first two Angel albums, The first Prophet, Zon - Astral Projector, Roadmaster - Sweet Music and Hey World, New England - Explorer Suite and 70s Styx.

  • @magnuswettermark8293
    @magnuswettermark8293 Před rokem +1

    Alpha Centauri. This Colorado band has done one of the best "pomprock" album ever made. Still have the original vinyl.

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci +1

      Me too. To me they sound a lot Like Uriah Heep. Love is a curse?

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci +1

      A diehard AOR , Pomp Rock, Mel. Hard Rock collector. Especially the obscure stuff. Private Pressings. For example. Best from the Netherlands.

  • @kzustang
    @kzustang Před rokem

    Not sure why this is not brought up but pomp rock started with Glam Rock mixed with Yes and ELP. This is what started it all. Later in the 70s these characteristics melded into long hair grandiouso pop-rock. Kiss would be my first pomp rock band. Queen are definitely part of the phenomenon.

  • @danielsolano602
    @danielsolano602 Před rokem +1

    Does the Alan Parsons Project perhaps have bits of pomp sprinkled through those records? I’m not too familiar with the albums as a whole, but it seems like there’s some beefy productions mixed in with the atmospheric proggy stuff.

  • @garyharrison1000
    @garyharrison1000 Před rokem

    The Moody Blues, pomp rock kings!

  • @jasongaylor2232
    @jasongaylor2232 Před rokem +1

    I've always thought it was a blend of rock genres. Arena hard rock mixed with a little glam, a little pop, and some prog elements on occasion. Some bands that usually get thrown into this category:
    Queen
    Styx
    Angel
    Magnum
    Rainbow (after "Long Live Rock 'N' Roll")
    April Wine
    Legs Diamond
    Y&T (the early stuff)
    City Boy
    The Babys
    And way too many Canadian bands(late 70's, early 80's) to mention.

    • @treff9226
      @treff9226 Před rokem

      City Boy! Amazing band-feels good to see them mentioned!

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci

      @@treff9226 Legs Diamond - the first 3 albums, The first two Angel albums, 70s Styx, Early Magnum.

  • @frankies9465
    @frankies9465 Před rokem +3

    I think Sweet and maybe ELP may fall into this, at least at one point during their careers. But,I may be confusing Glam and Prog with Pomp rock . Not sure

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 Před rokem

      I think they are definite connections & crossover between the two (three)

  • @DropAnchor1978
    @DropAnchor1978 Před rokem

    Pete, we need rain on Long Island. Just starting to listen and wonder if Aviary will be mentioned.

  • @patgalvez4563
    @patgalvez4563 Před rokem +2

    Styx is my definition of pomp rock

  • @paulmonahawk4921
    @paulmonahawk4921 Před rokem

    Hey I would love to hear an episode on other "invisible guys" ?

  • @jkbaca41
    @jkbaca41 Před rokem +2

    Trickster would definitely fit in here. Back to Zero is very ELO sounding with those multi harmonies.
    Maybe White Sister? I need to listen to that one again. It might just be AOR. Guiffria might be the last of Pomp mixed with AOR or maybe even House of Lords, but that one is really late. Greg Giuffria is the common element there and HOL was basically an extension of Giuffria without David Glen Eisley.

    • @Bwarock
      @Bwarock Před rokem +1

      White Sister were totally pomp and not aor.

    • @jkbaca41
      @jkbaca41 Před rokem

      @@Bwarock Thanks! It's been a loooooong time since I've listened to them. Didn't Greg Giuffria write or gave a song to them?

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@jkbaca41 He produced and arranged the album and played keyboards on a few tracks.

  • @wolf1977
    @wolf1977 Před rokem +3

    A quote I came across online: "Pomp was the child disowned by prog, and orphaned by AOR; the beast locked in the cellar, who got loose to terrorise the neighbourhood. Except that in the case of pomp rock we’re talking about a global neighbourhood, albeit one based principally in North America"...
    So rock that has elements of prog & also smacks of 'melodic hard rock'. Also a pretty tight connection to fashion & the bands' look (kinda like Glam). Maybe multi-tracked vocals & over-the-top/'bombastic'/theatrical music with lotsa keyboards & guitar. Melody Maker supposedly coined the term. A possible 'tell' is any band that sounds kinda proggy but stirs up controversy among listeners as to whether they're actually 'real' prog or not. Supertramp always seems to do this. In that they mixed pop with rock & definitely have some prog elements some of their music may qualify as pomp. Early Ambrosia? Maybe. Some Glam acts (as Pete & Martin mentioned): Sweet, Bowie, Spiders From Mars. City Boy? Not really (for me)...
    For me: some Queen (earlier than Martin's start date of 1979) for sure & the band Zon (1978). Many name Styx, Angel & Kansas as main examples but I honestly don't like these bands enough to say (I do own some stuff from them but tends to be some of their later output). I don't have a lot of 70's Magnum but they did sound AOR-ish - I actually like their later stuff more. Maybe some Yes albums like Tales From Topographic Oceans & some of ELP's stuff...How about Starcastle, Trillion (excellent AOR effort in '78), Alpha Centauri ('77). Roadmaster was a good one ('76-'79), and early 80's Touch. Another one many may not have heard of is Speedway Blvd (1980) - good AOR-type album...One clear example for me (but one I really dislike for being totally overblown - for me serves as the negative 'poster child' of pomp): pretty much any of Rick Wakeman's solo albums

    • @chrisharper6088
      @chrisharper6088 Před rokem +1

      Best comments by far, in defining pomp rock, all of these I have in my vinyl collection and cds, as the chances of finding Alpha Cent on vinyl, love speedway boulevard just add Spy, Robbie Valentine and Dragonfly, and first Angel album.

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci

      Zon - Astral Projector, Trillion, Alpha Centauri, Roadmaster, Touch, Speedway Blvd, Spy, First Prophet, Arc Angel, The first two Angel albums and 70s Styx. All Great Pomp Rock of the highest order. I own on vinyl.

    • @RAPTRx-xm7zb
      @RAPTRx-xm7zb Před 7 měsíci

      I’ve heard it said elsewhere that Pomp Rock is the missing king between more straight ahead Prog Rock and Arena Rock/AOR. I’d say the difference to me between Pomp and AOR is that pomp could easily be called crossover Prog/Prog-lite/Pop Prog, while Arena Rock is mostly or completely devoid of those influences. Basically the difference between bands like Styx/early Magnum/Supertramp vs Boston/Journey

  • @samhouston1979
    @samhouston1979 Před rokem

    to the trumpet thing…Texas A&M’s mascot because of the military connection is a collie dog named Revile (however that is spelled)

  • @Bwarock
    @Bwarock Před rokem +1

    Aviary. Unsung pomp heroes.

  • @stilettos9
    @stilettos9 Před rokem +1

    Can't believe you didn't include saga here as the most important? They practically defined the genre!

  • @denniswalker8089
    @denniswalker8089 Před rokem

    I love hearing when big celebrities admit that they are down to earth enough to mow their own lawns! 😀

  • @briancox8518
    @briancox8518 Před 11 měsíci

    It was hot in the uk until July now back to typical British weather cool and unsettled
    Queen definitely

  • @claudeluster6725
    @claudeluster6725 Před rokem +1

    I know a lot of fans of this channel likely don’t dig this band, but I think My Chemical Romance is the ultimate Pomp Rock of more recent times. Especially all things Black Parade. Highly theatrical, poppy punk with a lots of 70s rock influence (Styx, Bowie, Pink Floyd, etc.) and hard-edged yet majestic at times guitar playing. Iconic look and intense lyrics.

    • @jimmycampbell78
      @jimmycampbell78 Před rokem +2

      Perhaps Muse another good recent example too?

    • @davej.meister5421
      @davej.meister5421 Před rokem +1

      Paramore would be the best example. Hayley Williams influences range from Debbie Harry to Siouxsie Sioux to Tina Turner to Morrissey to Brian Ferry to Freddie Mercury to Geddy Lee to Michael Jackson to Prince. So many paths.

    • @davej.meister5421
      @davej.meister5421 Před rokem +1

      I'd say Kings of Leon, The Killers and even Shinedown might have some pomp-rock characteristics in their music.

  • @axxellein
    @axxellein Před 11 měsíci

    Angel, New England, Argent, Queen, Uriah Heep!! Trower!Aviary, Kansas!!

  • @melwilson9531
    @melwilson9531 Před 11 měsíci

    When I think of "Pomp Rock", the first album that comes to mind is Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell.

  • @3bwana
    @3bwana Před rokem +1

    Jellyfish especially the sophomore ‘Spilt Milk’

  • @georgierockwood2355
    @georgierockwood2355 Před 11 měsíci

    When Elvis Costello came out in ‘77 was considered Pomp Rock cause of the organ elements in his songs..a lot of the so called New Wave bands that were heavy on the organ / farfisa were called Pomp Rock even a band like Sam the Sham & the Pharoes from the 60’s was considered Pomp…

  • @adampineda5460
    @adampineda5460 Před 10 měsíci

    Lol, Pete indicating that its early in the morning by saying hes gotta mow his lawn early after making this video, then taking a swig from a monstrous beer hes got. Hes a savage man.

  • @MrProgKeys
    @MrProgKeys Před rokem +1

    Another one i thought was good is Roadmaster

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci

      Sweet Music and Higher Higher are Pomp Rock of the highest order. I also like Hey World and Fortress [ the latter more AOR ]

  • @brotherhoodoflightshowcurr3318

    Never heard of this Pomp Rock but I did see the Babies 3 times during the late 70s and Utopia 4 times4th time. They did some kind of Beatles cover Show and it was horrible .Heres one to add the list the Starship formally Jefferson Starship doing the theme song to the movie Mannequin Nothings Gonna Stop Us and then We Built This City. It’s this weird pomp rock.

  • @JohnMacRae23
    @JohnMacRae23 Před rokem +2

    A genre where you'll get a ton of arguments on what is and what isn't... the lines really blur some more prog, some more aor, some more pop, some more power pop. Some I would throw into your great picks gentlemen:
    Crack the Sky (Peter, if you like City Boy you need to hear Crack the Sky, start with the early lps)
    Morningstar
    Garfield
    Baby Grand
    Dixon House Band
    Shooting Star
    Steeplechase
    Supertramp (would skirt the line)
    Zebra
    Roadmaster (excellent band Martin)

    • @davej.meister5421
      @davej.meister5421 Před rokem

      You forgot the Toto sounding Stingray out of South Africa. They had a late 70s minor rock radio hit with "Lovesaver."

    • @davej.meister5421
      @davej.meister5421 Před rokem

      Late 70s/early 80s AOR/melodic rock band Touch is another one you forgot. Also reminded me of Toto.

    • @davej.meister5421
      @davej.meister5421 Před rokem

      Pete has already done an album ranking for City Boy, btw.

    • @davej.meister5421
      @davej.meister5421 Před rokem

      Never heard of the band Garfield. Who are/were those guys?

    • @JohnMacRae23
      @JohnMacRae23 Před rokem

      @@davej.meister5421 Martin mentioned Touch in the vid

  • @CarlJohnson-qo4eb
    @CarlJohnson-qo4eb Před rokem +2

    Kiss: Music From the Elder!

  • @seethroughhead505
    @seethroughhead505 Před rokem

    "I've got some more glasses coming up later on." 😄

  • @briancox8518
    @briancox8518 Před 11 měsíci

    Japan debut album is worthy glam rock pomp rock
    Baby's should be mentioned]

  • @chrismoyse3529
    @chrismoyse3529 Před rokem +4

    Touch are proper pomp rock.

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 Před rokem +2

      I agree...

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci +1

      One of the best. Along with Trillion - Clear Approach [ my favorite ]

    • @chrismoyse3529
      @chrismoyse3529 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@ssRocker-nn3tp will seek it out. Cheers

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci

      You won,t be disappointed.@@chrismoyse3529

  • @kenfrederick6223
    @kenfrederick6223 Před rokem +2

    Great stuff!. You guys should have worn leisure suits and loose fitting ties for this episode.

  • @susanrussell3001
    @susanrussell3001 Před 11 měsíci

    I don't know if any of these fit but ill put them down any way Manfred mann,sugarloaf,jellyfish. Toto maybe little river band or maybe not...

  • @747jono
    @747jono Před rokem

    Bob used to bring his Mom to the shows

  • @DropAnchor1978
    @DropAnchor1978 Před rokem

    Trillion and Bighorn were pomp bands of note.

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci

      Clear Approach by Trillion is my favorite Pomp Rock album of all time. Listen to these intricate arrangements. The Musicianship is outstanding. I also like Bighorn. Good album and underrated. Never mentioned in these circles.

  • @Bwarock
    @Bwarock Před rokem

    Jaugernaut, Link, Bootcamp, Spy. Nice obscure pomp

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci

      I have all these on Vinyl. Thrills, Powerglide, Lion, Day One, Lifer, Limousine, Cinema Face, Hybrid Ice, Rathskeller, Myth, ZZYZX, Stencil Forest, Keystone, Passenger and lots more Great and Rare, obscure Pomp,AOR. Best from the Netherlands.

  • @stephennorris2524
    @stephennorris2524 Před rokem +1

    Magnum.

  • @jetsstars4731
    @jetsstars4731 Před rokem +1

    Very interesting! One band that comes in mind is Grand Prix with their song ''Which way did the wind blow''.

    • @noddynewbold
      @noddynewbold Před rokem +1

      You beat me to it! Got to remember how important 1/2 of Grand Prix became Bernie Shaw, Phil Lanzon & Robin McAuley, take a bow!

    • @ssRocker-nn3tp
      @ssRocker-nn3tp Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@noddynewbold Great band. So underrated.

  • @garyh.238
    @garyh.238 Před rokem

    I am thinking Toto was almost Pomp Rock with its 1979 album Hydra - especially the title track and St. George and the Dragon

    • @davej.meister5421
      @davej.meister5421 Před rokem

      Listen to their S/T debut and "Turn Back." Also had prog elements in the songs from those LP's.

    • @garyh.238
      @garyh.238 Před rokem

      @@davej.meister5421 Definitely, both those albums have complex arrangements and virtuosic playing.

  • @murreygellmann7708
    @murreygellmann7708 Před rokem

    Nick Gilder!