How Many Case Fans do you Actually Need?

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  • čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
  • The Antec Performance 1 FT has room for a huge number of fans but how many do you actually need for air and water cooling? Let's talk about case airflow, how to get fresh air to your components and how too much airflow might be a problem too.
    0:00 - Antec Who?
    0:33 - The concept: Air vs AIO
    0:54 - ALL the fan slots
    2:05 - Cooling Performance vs ATX Cases
    3:12 - Air Cooling (Stock vs All Fans)
    5:10 - Vertical Air Cooling (Stock vs All Fans)
    5:50 - AIO Cooling (Stock vs All Fans)
    6:33 - AIO vs Air (Which is better?)
    7:12 - The MOST Interesting Surprise!
    8:44 - Is ANTEC really back???
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  • @Mismatch-
    @Mismatch- Před rokem +10

    What I've learned from my experience: At the top of the case you should only mount exhaust fans behind the CPU cooler. Mounting exhaust fans on the other places at the top of the case is counter-productive - you're just throwing away the cool air that you've just pushed in through the front, before it has had a chance to reach the cooler. You can easily notice that when you put the PC under heavy load just by feeling the air coming out from the top - the back-most fan blows warm air, while the other two blow much cooler (if they are also exhausts).
    I guess you could mount the other ones as intakes instead, but if you already have enough intakes at the front/bottom, then adding more at the top wouldn't really make a difference anyway. At most, it would just screw up the air flow.
    If you're on water cooling, you can run the radiator at the top as exhaust, but you still should NOT place any other exhaust fans in front of it. You should have one fan at the back and the radiator at the top as exhausts, everything else should be intakes from the front/bottom.
    And always try to have more intake air than exhaust air. Since intakes also have to be filtered, it's best to have two more intake fans than exhaust (if they are the same size/RPM/etc), if possible. So, if you're on air cooling - the best configuration is to have two exhausts (back-most top+rear) and four intakes (three front+one bottom or two front+two bottom). If you have 5 fans - you can do 3 in+2 out, while keeping the intakes at a bit higher RPMs than the exhausts. If you only have 4 fans - just run 3 intakes (front/bottom) and 1 exhaust at the back.

  • @Alexander_X_
    @Alexander_X_ Před rokem +157

    Using percentages of fan speeds for comparison is a bad idea because it means nothing to viewers. We don't know how much rpm it is or the noise level.

    • @hornsteinhof7592
      @hornsteinhof7592 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I think it's okay not to be too scientific Herr. Most ppl are gonna use the fans they already have anyways. Even if you knew the loudness and rpm readings, cfm and static pressure would remain a mystery. The relative fan speeds are okay to draw basic conclusions

    • @GenderGoneLikeYourDad
      @GenderGoneLikeYourDad Před 2 měsíci

      I do

    • @ahmedfarouk3912
      @ahmedfarouk3912 Před 2 měsíci

      Same Fans remember?

  • @mad_mario_
    @mad_mario_ Před rokem +10

    I've done a similar test myself with 12 case fans once, tried every combination. The conclusion was you only need 1 or 2 intake and only 1 exhaust. Thanks for reading ☺

  • @Twistedvaccine
    @Twistedvaccine Před rokem +10

    You might as well go for the Fractal Torrent, Same style case but better

  • @daviddamasceno6063
    @daviddamasceno6063 Před rokem +6

    Trying to find the perfect balance between cooling and silence is quite a challenge. In my case, I believe the pump in my AIO is the most noisy part. I'm considering making the change to an Air Cooler just to see if I can make my PC quieter.

  • @nicholasbaldwin1674
    @nicholasbaldwin1674 Před rokem

    I have this Antec. was excited to see a Antec on the market so I jumped and bought it. I really like it, I am very happy that I made the change.

  • @Zelement911onrs
    @Zelement911onrs Před rokem

    Exciting to see Antec putting in effort to improve and continue to release products. Additionally this was such a functionally good way to showcase the product while giving good info. Keep it up Dimitri!

  • @1wibble230
    @1wibble230 Před 9 měsíci +10

    I run overclocked 5950x and have just 2 intake fans and 1 out fan, air cooled cpu, all fans running between 650-800rpm, super slow, and the thing stays cool. With proper directed airflow, 3 case fans is all you need.

    • @terrapinflyer273
      @terrapinflyer273 Před 7 měsíci

      Similar setup here. I have a very old custom case. The Apevia X-Sniper G. 1 rear exhaust, one side panel fan centered on the GPU, but a small amount of air hits the NVME drive and CPU, and one bottom intake fan in the front. All 120mm. i7-4790 and a GTX 1080 FTW both stay around 60°C playing Subnautica and most games I've tested so far. But CPU temp can rise up to ~72°C in some areas - due to poor game optimization I think. Really surprised how stable my temps are with such a config. Thinking about trying to mount another 120mm on my 5.25" drive bay covers as they have holes that center with them!
      With a stock Intel cooler btw.
      Also just upgraded from old molex fans to Arctic F12s and P12s and saw my temps rise considerably under load using PWM control. But dropped a few degrees after cranking them to full speed while gaming. I had an 80mm fan in the back before too, which I think could actually help, since air is drawn by the fan and pushed freely around it through the surrounding exhaust holes.

  • @DLLDevStudio
    @DLLDevStudio Před 5 měsíci +1

    lovely video. never saw such useful information anywhere else. now i exactly now what kind of cooling i will go for. thanks brother. good job. good channel!

  • @clark85
    @clark85 Před rokem +1

    I have a new antec case and it has a 5.25 bay!! Thanks Antec for that

  • @spiral5819
    @spiral5819 Před rokem

    I haven’t watched much pc hardware content in some time but i got the notif the moment this was published. Glad to see you guys still going strong!

  • @VioletGiraffe
    @VioletGiraffe Před rokem +1

    I don't remember whether I ever had an Antec case, but I definitely remember wanting one - Antec 900 and 1200. It was more than 10 years ago. Another legend of the old days was Coolermaster HAF 932. And then there was that Silverstone full tower that literally no one could afford in my country.

  • @MADHIKER777
    @MADHIKER777 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Excellent comparison that can save us from spending needless money!

  • @abb0tt
    @abb0tt Před rokem

    I bought my first Antec case in 2000. Glad to see them making an innovative comeback for enthusiasts. I'm in the market for a new high-air flow case, and up until now I've only considered the Fractal Torrent, but now I'll include P1 FT as well.
    One thing I'd change: black-out the front grill (including the Antec logo--or remove it completely with a delete or screw/snap). The entire case is mostly black, but the front grill contrast bothers me against the black case.

  • @SergeantQuackersThe2nd
    @SergeantQuackersThe2nd Před rokem +7

    I have 13 fans in my Lian Li Air Mini.......
    Haven't got enough obviously.

    • @Devo_gx
      @Devo_gx Před rokem

      Technically 8 for me so far in mine. 3 bottom SL-120 Infinity fans, stock dual 140mm in front+ 120mm rear, and the two that came with my Deepcool AK620.

    • @SergeantQuackersThe2nd
      @SergeantQuackersThe2nd Před rokem

      ​@@Devo_gx 2 140 stock fans at the front
      3 120 Deepcool fans on the bottom
      3 120 Deepcool fans on the side
      3 120 Deepcool fans on the top
      2 120 Deepcool fans for the CPU cooler
      So technically 11 but still 13 realistically.
      It's loud but adding some CPU undervolting for my Ryzen 7 puts it around 22 to 25°C so win win haha.

    • @khysor1832
      @khysor1832 Před rokem +1

      I’ve got 9 in my setup and I need more 😂

    • @SergeantQuackersThe2nd
      @SergeantQuackersThe2nd Před rokem +1

      @@khysor1832 9?
      Those are rookie numbers! Pump those numbers up 😂

  • @frazer1988
    @frazer1988 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I have this case, and I filled it completely with Thermaltakes SWAFAN's, 3x 140mm front intake, 3x 120mm on the AIO on the top, 1x 120mm on the rear exhaust and 3x 120mm on the bottom with the GPU horizontally mounted and I have great temps... yes it may not be needed on the bottom, but it looks cool!

  • @briantse11
    @briantse11 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Really appreciate your video on the fans configuration, would you please do something similar on the upcoming antec m-atx case constellation 540?

  • @CyberneticArgumentCreator

    On a typical "modern" setup the best basic configuration is a 360mm AIO, in a standard full tower case with at least 3 120 slots on the front and 3 on the top, the 360mm AIO exhausting outwards on the top mount, 3 120mm intake fans on the front panel, and one exhaust on the top of the back of the case. With more fans crossing each other on the intake, you get turbulence which prevents good fresh air coverage on the GPU, and with an air tower cooler you have higher internal temperature in the case.

  • @dsixto
    @dsixto Před rokem +1

    I'm keeping my case with the provided fans, and it's running like a dream

  • @Hyperdriveuk
    @Hyperdriveuk Před rokem

    Nice! Well who knew I was running optimal heat/sound via pure fluke LOL.

  • @DaKrawnik
    @DaKrawnik Před 2 měsíci +2

    Good to see this confirmed about top AND bottom fans.
    Wish you showed AIO in the front too.

    • @miscetc-tm2yt
      @miscetc-tm2yt Před měsícem

      AIO radiator placement in the front is a bad setup, no?

  • @GuillaumeDanat
    @GuillaumeDanat Před rokem +1

    Nice review ❤

  • @chrisbertolino2116
    @chrisbertolino2116 Před rokem +53

    But how about a case MADE of fans?!? 😂

    • @shadowarez1337
      @shadowarez1337 Před rokem +2

      Iv seen this case you speak of 🤣

    • @user-wq9mw2xz3j
      @user-wq9mw2xz3j Před rokem +1

      you literally gave me a brilliant idea.
      I have like 10-15 fans from a mining rigg. I think the motherboard screws can fit on them. They are big fans.
      Could work! although needs to be open case anyways. Unless I cover it with something else

    • @mayonotes9849
      @mayonotes9849 Před rokem +2

      Maximum airflow baby.

    • @LividAssassin93
      @LividAssassin93 Před 5 měsíci

      Surprised LTT hasn't done that yet

    • @Playeroth
      @Playeroth Před 2 měsíci

      haha the cube one

  • @GTDScala
    @GTDScala Před rokem

    Antec 1200 was my favorite case from my previous builds.

  • @etyrnus
    @etyrnus Před rokem +2

    Using those 140s as intake on an NZXT H7 Flow, they're great fans. Move a ton of air.

  • @thseed7
    @thseed7 Před rokem

    Nice looking case and AIOs

  • @bellybutthole69
    @bellybutthole69 Před rokem +1

    I really wish there would be more videos comparing all the different cooling configs in a same case. It would help greatly when deciding on air cooling vs AIO , and if adding more fans is worth it or not . Great video as always !

    • @mryellow6918
      @mryellow6918 Před rokem

      one of the things an aio has an advnatge on is it can use air from out of the case to cool so your gpu isnt heating

    • @bellybutthole69
      @bellybutthole69 Před rokem

      @@mryellow6918 yesssss, but I feel like in a case made for airflow ( the Fractal Torrent, or Lian Li 216 for example ) , the advantages of an AIO would be diminished quite a lot. I would like more tests like that to see if I'm correct or not :)

  • @annettesurfer
    @annettesurfer Před rokem

    I've noted the Lian Li Lancool 216 case wasn't included in the comparison chart, but then making the sponsor look bad wasn't really the goal. My last Antec case was the Dapper Dark Phantom DP301M M-ATX and discovered it lacked airflow.
    $160 is pricey for the Antec Performance 1 FT when the much better (white) Lian Li Lancool 216 RGB case can be found for $100 (normally $115) and the 2 front PWM ARGB intake fans are 160mm.
    Of course the investment rises when replacing the rear exhaust fan with a $30 CoolerMaster MasterFan MF140 Halo and a 3pk of $62 MasterFan Halo’s for the top AIO (for exhaust as well)
    My system is a positive pressure setup to ensure all intake air is filtered through the optional $13 front Lian Li LAN216-2W (white) magnetic front dust filter.
    I’ve had the (white) Lian Li Lancool Il mesh RGB but the 1.5mm mesh hole size allowed a bit too much dust inside so I tried the (white) Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB but the 1mm mesh hole size wasn’t much better so the filtered Lancool 216 finally got it right, plus Lian Li didn’t repeat the mistake of the Lancool Il mesh where intake air bypassed the mesh entirely at the bottom front cover.
    My Godlike EATX MB has plenty of room and the ability to move the top button to the easier to reach lower left side could be viewed as a negative for case manufacturers since I doubt I’ll be in the market again for quite some time.
    The longevity of CoolerMaster fans is a concern but they are the best looking fans IMO and matched the front Lian Li fans better than anything Lian Li offered. I mean, they can’t be any worse than the often failing RGB of the Corsair LL120’s I yanked off my AIO. BTW, I was able to eliminate the proprietary Corsair lighting node pro hub and Commander Core since the Lian Li RGB controller allowed daisy chaining.

  • @damngoodenzo
    @damngoodenzo Před rokem

    this AIO looks so nice, gg Antec

  • @CDubbsW0rld
    @CDubbsW0rld Před rokem

    My first PC case was Antec. I want to say about 15 years ago. I kept it around for a long time.

  • @garyc5245
    @garyc5245 Před 3 měsíci

    I thought maybe one of the configs would be with the AIO in the front, that way the cpu radiator would have outside air. Going to build in this case next and according to Antec a 420 can fit in the front. and maybe that bottom fan on the aio will push air underneath the psu shroud...we shall see. Great video, love how you guys do multiple oppositions!

  • @broscutzacupar
    @broscutzacupar Před rokem

    used an Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 case for almost 10 years until 2 years ago, when i gave that pc to one of my nephews. It stil works 😅

  • @perdomot
    @perdomot Před rokem +3

    Good info on air flow BUT if you are introducing a new case, you should take the time to go over the case itself and what features it has before going to the testing phase. Need a follow up video.

  • @camotech1314
    @camotech1314 Před rokem

    Antec makes some legit good stuff, I had one of their mATX cases for a bit the NX200M and it was very decent for a midrange system !!
    You only really need 3 fans in an average system. Or 4/5 if you count the fans on the air tower cooler. I have 4 in total, 2 Noctua NF-A15 HS as front intake then 1 Arctic Bionix F120 as my CPU heatsink fan and 1 Arctic P14 PWM as my top exhaust. That's it!! I had a rear exhaust too but it created turbulence.

  • @Kapono5150
    @Kapono5150 Před rokem +1

    I picked up the Fractal Torrent in Black NON RGB hoping to keep a 7900X cool 😎

  • @wdowa94
    @wdowa94 Před 9 měsíci

    1:36 In most cases up to 0.5kW of heat- Front panel as much airflow as possible, one back fan- Top blocked from front up to 1/3rd of length from back- That's all you need- AiO cooler on top only and the same scenario, but you're blocking the top with radiator

  • @jonesgang
    @jonesgang Před rokem

    I populated all the fan locations in mine and played with the fan curves a lot. Results are: Idle is low 30s, watching videos low 40s, AAA gaming mid to upper 50s. My case is the Hyte Y60.

  • @Dreamtwister2k
    @Dreamtwister2k Před rokem +1

    Very good video more for the education of fan positioning than the sponsored case review. Maybe a topic worth revisiting with different air configurations. It kills me everytime I see an OL11 Dynamic (or similar case) with fans on the front and immediately on the side 90 degrees (kind of like an L-shape configuration on the very front portion of the case), both intake causing major turbulence with each other just for the RGB looks. Just because you CAN put fans in there doesn't mean you SHOULD.

  • @axcelatommarvelmansi
    @axcelatommarvelmansi Před rokem +1

    Hey can you do the same with a Corsair 7000D air flow case to see what the best fan configuration is?

  • @Tagiau
    @Tagiau Před rokem

    Oh neat, they made a flow version of the p82. Antec is cool, I absolutely love my nx200m.

  • @WookieeRage
    @WookieeRage Před rokem +1

    Love my Noctua ❤

  • @JEdVcM
    @JEdVcM Před 16 dny

    Thank you! I was wondering about the efficiency of those cases that seem to be built of fans (can see plenty of them fishtank style ones on PCPP). I was also having doubts about the chimney style cooling, as there is a huge block in the way of the airflow (the GPU).
    With air cooling, a clear front-to-back channel with plenty of intake is the best, just as the conventional wisdom goes.
    With SFF, I found it is a bit of an opposite situation and the biggest gains are from removing the heat from the case (as the unit fans are usually close enough to the case panels to help themselves).

  • @kjuju
    @kjuju Před rokem

    I just moved my system into an Antec P20C. It's my first big boy case.

  • @sunraiii
    @sunraiii Před rokem

    Antec deserves praise for this case. It's mega clean, cable management is great and design wise they dare to build more than a metal box with holes (*cough* nzxt *cough*).

  • @BKMorpheus
    @BKMorpheus Před rokem +1

    Does the front panel really reduce the noise, or is it just crippling the intake and therefore max rpm on the fans and that's the reason why the fans are much louder without the front?
    The more rpm the fans can do, the more you might notice the reduction in max rpm with the front panel vs. without it

  • @Cheeseypoofs85
    @Cheeseypoofs85 Před 11 měsíci +12

    more fans means lower fan speed required for the same temps, which means lower noise. im about to swap my build into a NV& with all 12 fans. she gonna be cool n quiet

    • @shadow105720
      @shadow105720 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Only if they're in the right places and pointed the right way. And its not 1:1 cooling improvement to noise reduction. More fans will almost always be louder for the same cooling potential.

  • @KeinNiemand
    @KeinNiemand Před 3 měsíci

    But how do you balance having a 420mm aio exaust on top and a 140mm fan at the back, I can't have 4 intakes without using at least one of the bottom slots (only 3 fans fot in the front) so shouldnI go with negative pressure or would bottom fans in this case improve things more then they hurt things due to turblance? I guess I could get faster fans for the front to get positive pressure

  • @Morpheus-pt3wq
    @Morpheus-pt3wq Před rokem

    I´m currently only using 3 front intake fans + 1 bottom (regulated by GPU temperature - sits at 0rpm in idle) and CPU fan. All of them except the bottom fan are on the same 2 curves (mixed curve in fan control - allows setting multiple fan curves to the same fans and react to whatever gets warmer). CPU fan also works as main air exhaust.
    In my case, there is no need for dedicated exhaust fans - in full load, if i put my hand behind the case, i can feel the breeze coming out of the case.
    PS. All my intake fans have 15mm shrouds in front of them. It helps reducing the noise and also increases intake area for each fan, while slightly reducing available space for the GPU (my GPU is quite short, it fits without any issues).

  • @jaymacpherson8167
    @jaymacpherson8167 Před rokem +1

    I too found that maximizing air into the front led to modest temps: 52 to 55 C (at 37% fan speed, all fans).
    Legacy CoolerMaster 500 case, front intake w 3 T30s, back w single 140 Nochua, top has 240 AIO for 3080, 11700k cpu has BeQuiet Dark Rock TF 2.
    Putting in a second GPU (evga 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra) in lower PCIe slot running at about 77 to 81 C w it’s fans at 100% results in 3080 going up 5 C and CPU only a couple. Case and 3080 AIO fans stay below 70% speed.

  • @naomy1701
    @naomy1701 Před rokem +1

    had been interesting to see how it had done with 9 fans (add the top 3 but leave the bottom 3 out) would it help to get heat out, or have a negative impact due to interfering with the front/back airflow?

  • @notchipotle
    @notchipotle Před 6 měsíci +3

    as long as the case has slightly positive airflow and all the intake fans are filtered then I'm good

  • @williammathies2998
    @williammathies2998 Před rokem

    Thanks!

  • @RailRoadCancellation
    @RailRoadCancellation Před rokem

    Mine should be arriving tomorrow, after waiting for 3 weeks. I've been going commando in the mean time.

  • @TimonY4
    @TimonY4 Před rokem

    Try the Lian Li Mesh 2 Performance case. I think there is no better cooling in its price; everything is well thought out. Yes, the front panel is not like Lexus... but if a person wants to reduce the temperature of the video card (and this case is one of the best in this regard; it is enough to install at least one fan from below), then this is an excellent choice.

  • @RonMizman
    @RonMizman Před rokem +1

    Classic hardware company, I used an ANTEC SLK3700-BQE bought in 2003 for many many years, a case similar to the old SONATA line. Dimitry knows what am talking about he is old skool.

  • @shannonrhoads7099
    @shannonrhoads7099 Před rokem

    I'm using an older Fractal Design Focus G case. I replaced the stock white LED fans with 2 Fractal Prisma 140mm fans in front as intakes and 2 Prisma 120mm fans as rear and top exhaust. My I7-11700F is cooled by a Scythe Fuma 2 cooler, and my GPU is a 2070 Super with the Dell/MSI Aero blower cooler.
    CPU and GPU temps idle at 37C but can push 70C/82c in heavy workloads. The higher 'loaded' GPU temps can be blamed on the blower cooler.

  • @xxx_ray
    @xxx_ray Před rokem +1

    I was considering getting this case, but it wasn’t released yet, ended up with a LANCOOL III

  • @cyclechris6591
    @cyclechris6591 Před rokem

    Thats a beautiful case, and Ive got a y60. Having a tough time with a full loop and distro in that little case. The antec would have been much easier.

  • @benderbendingrodriguez2658

    i still have my nas in an antec902, and currently using an antec900 barebone chassis in a custom case but moved this pc to a corsair c70 while i work on redoing that case when i can

  • @JezyYT
    @JezyYT Před rokem

    Ok this is very interesting! However, I am very curious to see this same methodology applied to a LianLi 011D and other cases like it. Everyone just loves filling them with fans but is it really necessary?

  • @mrt6399
    @mrt6399 Před 6 měsíci

    i was looking at this and really loved the simple but beautiful design, just wish you could put a stack of hdd in the front

    • @mrt6399
      @mrt6399 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I realized I own a printing shop and will make a solution to this problem

  • @Luckytmj97
    @Luckytmj97 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Need to do push and pull aio set up when i had it i run cinebench i was at 78 without it was 86

  • @codygrinnell8676
    @codygrinnell8676 Před rokem

    you could use the bottom for a Distro plate!!! or a rez mount!! Since it already has holes for the 120mm mounts!! With a 360mm on the top, and a 240 on the front

  • @Violet-ui
    @Violet-ui Před 15 dny

    I am pretty sure the front panel isn't blocking much noise, but the fans get quieter when they have to work against some restriction that reduces airflow

  • @Ssdj3nt0
    @Ssdj3nt0 Před rokem +5

    Hey, you didn’t test front-top intake with rear-top exhaust, for me it’s 2/3C of difference without top fans!

  • @ESheridan
    @ESheridan Před rokem

    Hello Dmitry! Thank you for video. But it is not so much fans like in CTE chassis from Thermaltake

  • @jiangzhao1142
    @jiangzhao1142 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Only put one fan backend to your case, it will talk out 70% heat from your case, add another at front, the airflow is good enough for 90% condition, other extra fans just add few effect to talk out heat from your case.

  • @josephhodges718
    @josephhodges718 Před rokem +1

    I have an NZXT H7 Flow with 5x140 mm Arctic P14s. No temperature-related issues at all, with an air-cooled 5800X3D using a Scythe FUMA 2, and a 6900XT.
    On stock fan profile for the 6900XT, and fans in the case set to 35% (3x140mm front, 1 back, 1 top; It has room for 2 more 140s at the top as well), the GPU will get to 74C and 93-95C hotspot. That's with the GPU fans under 60%. It's basically silent.
    With a custom profile that ramps the 5 fans up to 50%, those temps drop to 69C and 88C respectively. Air cooling is far from dead unless you use absolutely bonkers parts that consume way too much energy to begin with lol.

    • @MrZulgen
      @MrZulgen Před 6 měsíci

      I'm shopping for a PC and I see 5 packs for like $30-40 then I see these other fans like the one shown in this video where its 3 connected sitting on top of the case for like $90-100. I'm wondering if there's any difference between the two.

    • @josephhodges718
      @josephhodges718 Před 6 měsíci

      @@MrZulgen There are, the connector itself is really unique and easy, less cables. Performance? Not enough to justify the cost.

  • @joshworley2443
    @joshworley2443 Před 11 měsíci +2

    With the issue with Iunity gpu. Just go into devices and disable the built in intel graphics chip and reboot!

  • @geromeabad
    @geromeabad Před rokem +1

    Can you do thermaltake cte c750 next?

  • @snaplash
    @snaplash Před měsícem

    With a GPU that has a big outlet on the top side like in this test, I wonder if (for AIO installs) if installing a duct between the GPU outlet and the rear fan would help CPU temps by keeping the GPU heat out of the radiator.

  • @dakrawnik4208
    @dakrawnik4208 Před rokem

    What about AIO in the front?
    Or with last gen/AMD GPU?

  • @krisreddish3066
    @krisreddish3066 Před rokem

    in the way backs, I filled the HAF 932 with Scythe Kaze Demons. It sounded like a larger drone taking off.

  • @laskerbrightag9896
    @laskerbrightag9896 Před rokem

    Any chance Antec will make a version of this case with a solid panel for the cable side or at least sell the solid side panel separately? I can do without double sided glass panels as I don't want to see the backside of the motherboard tray.

  • @HitMarkersAreFun
    @HitMarkersAreFun Před rokem +1

    still rocking an Antec 1100 OG, it's the one with the 200mm fan uptop, not the dual 120 fan mounts. I got rid of the 200mm fan when I got a hybrid GPU several years ago.
    I have only 2 fans as exhaust in my case, no intake fans. one is in the usual spot at top-back of case, the other is part of an AIO for my gpu which is used as an exhaust at top of case.
    we have 2 cats, so not having any screen covering the side panel fan mounts would mean my pc is full of car hair, right? well, not so fast. I accidentally figured out a way to minimize cat hair buildup. The way that our computer area is setup, I have to keep my pc on a small cart on the floor below the desk(not directly on the floor, just on a small cart) and I have it close to the wall behind the desk with the front panel pointed to the left, whcih means the side panel with the fan mounts are about an inch away from the wall. Just the general airflow of the room and the pc being under a desk and near the wall means that very little to almost no cat hair ever makes it into the pc.

  • @RetroTeddyBear
    @RetroTeddyBear Před 9 měsíci

    Their Storm 140x30 fans are actually one of the best 140mm fans you can get now.

  • @markreichman5922
    @markreichman5922 Před 5 měsíci

    The H7 Flow case comes in RGB and non RGB versions. For some reason the RGB version has three 140mm intake fans in the front and one 120mm exhaust fan in the back just like the case in this video. The non RGB version comes with one 120mm fan in front and one 120mm in the back. Same price. I don't get that? I got the non RGB version with only two fans. I went ahead and bought a second fan for the front. Not sure if I needed the second fan in front and if I don't why does the RGB version have three in the front and bigger?

  • @ChrisPkmn
    @ChrisPkmn Před rokem +2

    I wonder if the bottom fans are kicking up the hot air that the PSU used to eject out the back

  • @GamersSanctum
    @GamersSanctum Před rokem +1

    Now what if you have the 3 front fans, the 360mm aio on the top, then have the back 120mm fan as INTAKE instead of exhaust?

  • @adamtajhassam9188
    @adamtajhassam9188 Před rokem +1

    Great review. I have 1BIG question : my argument is 3 fans on the bottom really needed - I see a lot of fan videos I haven't had 3 fans on the bottom 4 years. With 2 intake and 2 out take + the GPU (4090) and the quality corsair 170i cooler. i have had temps sitting @ 63c randomly w average of 49-56c. is 3 fans still needed @ the bottom w both CPU and GPU in lower temps then this w a old case phanteks 800 case...w a lot of breathing inside....?

    • @5353Jumper
      @5353Jumper Před rokem

      By his examples of you are running the AIO on top it would be 4 fans out and only 3 in which could create a negative pressure situation unless you throttle up the 3 front fans.
      So the extra 2 on the bottom (3rd is just aesthetics in this case because the PSU is blocking it) makes 5 in and 4 out for a positive static pressure.
      So as he said, the bottom fans are only beneficial with an AIO on the CPU.

  • @matthewrezuke8130
    @matthewrezuke8130 Před rokem +1

    All of them. Review the Dan C4SFX he sent out!

  • @isturma
    @isturma Před rokem +4

    Where is the air coming from for the bottom fans? I have a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh, and my GPU temps dropped when I put a 120mm fan on the bottom to suck in cool air and direct it at the GPU. The Lancool also has mesh bottom skirts so there's a path for fresh air to come in. I don't see a way for fresh air to come in at the bottom of this case, though. 🤔

  • @Olav_Hansen
    @Olav_Hansen Před rokem

    Pre video guess: these things always have the diminishing returns thing, I am guessing every fan gets less results then the previous ones. Without a radiator I think the sweetspot might actually be at 1 in 1 out, but with a rad probably 2 in through rad 1 out.
    Okay with seeing the 360 rad that might change it a bit. Perhaps 3 in 1 out or 3 in 2 out will still pull their weight in this one.
    My current system has an 18cm intake fan and a 12cm exhaust, hoping that the slight overpressure keeps slowly refreshing the 'dead spot' under the gpu. And with how the fins by the pci ports exhaust warm air while gaming, it seems to work.
    Yeah I was expecting some low fan tests as well. 4 fans is kind of already hitting peak efficiency, adding any more doesn't improve much at that point.

  • @wherearemytesticles
    @wherearemytesticles Před rokem

    Why the fan mounts on the PSU shroud and not the bottom of the case?

  • @chickenpasta7359
    @chickenpasta7359 Před rokem +1

    the thing about AIOs is that you have to deal with the pump hum no matter how low you run it, but in turn your PC overall is a lot quieter since the flowing liquid is doing most of the heavy work, and the fan on your radiators don't have to run as hard either. Usually anything 240mm and up for radiators is always my suggestion over air coolers just cause of the sheer drop in sound alone. its what made me drop my M1 macbook pro as my daily driver and switch back to my desktop

    • @imadecoy.
      @imadecoy. Před rokem

      Try buying an AIO without a garbage audible pump.

    • @khysor1832
      @khysor1832 Před rokem

      @@imadecoy.my nzxt sounds like shit 😂

  • @itsdeonlol
    @itsdeonlol Před rokem

    I just add all of the fans to make my case look complete!!!

  • @ACallander22
    @ACallander22 Před rokem

    I would have love to see the aio 360 in the front and three fans up top.

  • @GreenEggsAndGraham
    @GreenEggsAndGraham Před rokem

    How about rad on front? Great vid none the less!

  • @ruankoen5947
    @ruankoen5947 Před 29 dny +1

    If you put all 10 fans as exhaust and keep the glass side pannel off
    Would it go to shit or be fine ?

  • @johnharris3311
    @johnharris3311 Před rokem +1

    I wish the front cover of my Antec case came off that easily. That's what I get for having an old case, I guess. I'd never fit that monster under my TV though.

  • @Joe_I_Hadley
    @Joe_I_Hadley Před rokem +1

    Great video. Awesome quality.

  • @ivanrodriguez2047
    @ivanrodriguez2047 Před rokem

    What if you vertical mount it and then set it up as chimney?

  • @bobbymoss6160
    @bobbymoss6160 Před rokem

    If there's a fan slot, I will use it! J/K 🤣 I'm currently using the Lian-Li o11 Air Mini, I use 6x 140mm fans for top exhaust (radiator), front and bottom for intake, plus 1x 120m in the back for exhaust.

  • @PukingMonkey
    @PukingMonkey Před 6 měsíci +3

    Has anyone tried a 420 AIO front intake, possibly with 2 fans on the other side for push pull? exhaust on top and extra intake from the bottom, since the intake from the aio would be lower? I'm pretty sure it's better for the CPU temps but wondering what it would mean for gpu temps.

  • @Andrew-ky8oc8cq4n
    @Andrew-ky8oc8cq4n Před rokem +2

    He should tried the top fans in a different configuration. Number 1 exhaust and 2 and 3 intake

  • @JustForFun-dh3to
    @JustForFun-dh3to Před rokem +2

    Rotate the fans on the tower cooler and the back of the case - this would give cold air directly to tower cooler giving you the lowest temps to CPU.
    You'll now have an area of hot air at the front top quadrant, set the fans as exhaust at the top 2 of the front (bottom as intake for gpu cold air) and first top half.
    Set the last rear fan as intake.

    • @ZaHandle
      @ZaHandle Před rokem

      And then the boundary between the heated air on top and cold intake on bottom is what the weather channel calls
      A cyclone

    • @ZaHandle
      @ZaHandle Před rokem

      Don’t do this btw a lot of your fans will be recirculating hot air around instead of throwing it out the back like it’s supposed to

    • @JustForFun-dh3to
      @JustForFun-dh3to Před rokem +2

      @@ZaHandle The air will exhaust from the upper front quadrant. Air will be coming in from the left and bottom. I've done dozens of tests on my personal system and I am in the top 1% world's ranking of GPU overclocking on stock air cooler. Test it before you make assumptions.
      The standard set up is terrible because the hot air from the gpu's pass through only exposes CPU to hot air mixed with the front case fans.
      Reversing the air from the back fan as intake lets cpu tower cooler use immediately cold air. Using the bottom fans as intake gives cold air to the gpu.
      Setting the fans in the upper front quadrant as exhaust will pull out the hot air.

    • @ZaHandle
      @ZaHandle Před rokem

      @@JustForFun-dh3to Sounds promising

    • @ohwnosrepeht
      @ohwnosrepeht Před rokem

      ​@@JustForFun-dh3to tbh this sounds reasonable despite it flying in the face of conventional fan placement wisdom, I'd love to see someone test it out, given how so many cases nowadays have the bottom/side intake

  • @NoneofyourBusiness-gy9yw

    more fans does not equal better cooling.

  • @jean-claudejosselin187
    @jean-claudejosselin187 Před rokem +1

    Depends really on the case.....
    i have better airflow with small cases, rather than big ones, harder to fill with moving air, providing potential multiple air currents.
    You can mix vertical and horizontal airflow, as cpu coolers tower models or small factors ones........
    just be simple, with low noise levels, and non-opposite airflows.
    i noticed a gain with gpu fans, below the gpu. or at 90°, if the fan shoots air from the side panel.
    helps to cool the gpu. low rpm fan, just ti help the gpu, especially modern ones with no-fan modes until a certain temperature reached.
    Just test it.........beware of power consumption, as more fan, more power needed....logical
    Best results where surprisingly with small case, and very long gpu, occupying the case in length....
    so one air "tunnel" for the gpu, and the other for the cpu, with a little hot air climbing from the gpu backplate.
    And hot air getting exhausted at the top.

  • @Van-kl1in
    @Van-kl1in Před 6 měsíci +4

    Explanation at 4:36 isn't accurate. Heat from gpu doesn't "intertwine" with heat from cpu resulting in higher temps. Your top case exhaust literally sucks fresh air from front panel intake that suppose to go to your cpu cooler.

  • @FuzzyBrunty
    @FuzzyBrunty Před rokem

    Your comment on the front grill looking like a Lexus, please checkout the DAF xg+, it looks almost the exact same as that