The Lamar Jackson Postseason Narrative | The Ryen Russillo Podcast
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- čas přidán 28. 01. 2024
- Ryen Russillo recaps both of the conference championship games from this past Sunday, including the 49ers coming from behind to beat the underdog lions and Mahomes and the Chiefs shutting down the Ravens-prompting some questions about Lamar Jackson’s postseason track record.
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Patrick Curry
Lebron Brady, the 🐐's@@nocturne311
As a colts fan this narrative around Lamar reminds me of Peyton Manning. He had the same narrative around him where he’d be dominant in the regular season but couldn’t get over the hump in the playoffs until he finally did in that afc championship comeback against the patriots.
@@nocturne311Patrick Jordan
@nocturne311 Curry is historically one of the worst clutch postseason players, don't compare him to Mahomes
10:03 This fool wit' the "Wipe Me Down" reference is HILARIOUS!!!
The Bills’ defense didn’t show up for Allen, but he put the team on his back and kept them in it the whole game. The Ravens’ defense showed up for Lamar and he let them down. That’s the real difference.
What about the other bills games against mahomes in the playoffs
@@Maurilucco only Brady and the Bengals have played them better
He didn't show up. Period. What bothered me all last Monday/Tuesday when people were killing Allen is that some made it seem like he wasn't infinitely better than Lamar in the postseason. Allen's failures can be summed up on one hand. He's been really good to phenomenal. Meanwhile, Jackson has done quite literally NOTHING in the time of year that matters most.
The definitive QB ranking should be 1. Mahomes 2. Burrow 3. Allen THEN 4. Lamar
Lamar is not even top 5 for me. Check his stats. His D is what gets him there
Lamar is a 2 time MVP and reached the AFC championship. compare that to what josh Allen. I'm a big fan of them both but Lamar has achieved more than Josh.
@@haaxadhsa4303 It's about the playoffs. Lamar, like most dual-threat QBs, comes up short in the playoffs.
@@keiththomas3422 wtf is josh allen ? aint he dual threat ? Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson both reached the same amount of AFC championships. Plus Lamar jackson led his team 2 the number 1 rank in the NFL.
Lamar's a great talent and I am a Ravens fan. His defense has had an average ranking of number 2 since he has been in the league, according to the Athletic. In addition, while Baltimore averages 28 points per game since Lamar has been the starter, his season low in points always happens in the playoffs. L.J lost to Allen in the playoffs. Lastly, Jackson is 2-4 in the playoffs despite having an MVP and being the presumptive MVP winner this year. That isn't good either way.
I like lamar and i do believe you can win with him. But it is fair to say he has not been the same player in the playoffs that hes been in the regular seaon. And until we see that it is fair to be skeptical of him on that stage from this point forward
The offense has not been good in the playoffs and that’s coaching and the roster. They were literally calling out the plays on the defense. Also everyone always says they have an incredible rushing game without mentioning that he’s responsible for leading them in rushing.
That January 6th joke was pretty good lol
I been wanting a Niners vs Bills Super Bowl forever 😭 My two favorite teams forever. I am from Buffalo and remember growing up that this was Chris Berman’s Super Bowl pick for like 5 years in a row. It looked like the Ravens were a buzz saw so going into the Bills vs KC game I thought whoever won that game would probably lose to them. But as they say, “any given Sunday”.
Lamar is who he has always been! He misses a start or more in every season. Then under performs in the playoffs. Just take him for what he is
He missed no time this season
@@officerballislife7728 FALSE! He missed the second matchup against the Steelers. Yes it’s a FACT Lamar has missed a start or more in every season SMH
@@TheKickenWING they say him out cause he had the number one seed you speaking as if he was hurt or missed the game on purpose bruh be fr
@@officerballislife7728 That’s your uneducated opinion. But it doesn’t change the FACT that Lamar has missed a start or more in every season SMH
@@TheKickenWING how could it be my opinion when he was 100 percent healthy the game before when he put up 5 td against the dolphins let’s be fr bruh
I wish josh had ravens defense
Josh had the #2 defense in 2021 and the #1 defense last year and lost to Mahomes both times
HAHHAHAHA
I wish the Chiefs had the Ravens defense and the Bills receivers.
Oh fuck off, he has a top defense every year and still falls well short. Every year
@@MrCHB4lifeWho cares. Did they hold the Chiefs to 17-23 pts like the Ravens/Bengals did?
Ran the ball 6 times, not sure how that happened. Coaching lost this game in my opinion
Insert Reggie Millers Choking GIF
With the way that Ravens defense played especially in the second half. One thought that came to mind is if Josh or Joe was playing QB instead Ravens would have been in the Super Bowl.
Lol, that is the dumbest take I have heard .
@@emmanuelonwuha3866 Have the right to your opinion and can disagree.
But saying it’s dumb? Idk about that? Considering how Josh and Joe play in the post season compared to Lamar so far.
Hell if last week if Josh defense was half as good as the Ravens during that game he maybe be in the AFC championship for a potential Super Bowl appearance right now.
In your hypothetical games you have imagined in your head, does Lamar get stephon diggs and the your run game ? Or does Lamar get 2 top 10 wide receivers like burrow has ? It’s insane the level of disrespect Lamar has to endure
@@emmanuelonwuha3866bro is spot on. I thought the same thing. Josh Allen with tha Defense, Zay Flowers, Andrew's and Zay would kill. Lamar CANT elevate his recievers and chokes big time in the playoffs. Look at Allen's postseason stats compared to Lchoke Jackson.
@@emmanuelonwuha3866 Not insane at all. The questions about Lamar is no different that any other QB that have come up short in post season.
I like Lamer there’s just three QBs I personally think are better than him and if they had a defense that was playing like that on Sunday.
Again I personally believe they would have made the plays Lamer ended up not making.
If that’s disrespectful and me hating? Then you’re entitled to your opinion. 🫡
I might be wrong about this but it really felt like Lamar tried to win with his arm and not his legs. Like he was trying to make a point against Mahommes. There seemed to be a lot of plays that he had the chance for big gains running and he stayed in the pocket and held the ball for too long.
THIS is spot on I felt that too
Or his coach didn’t execute the plan effectively to maximize his skills
I was screaming RUN LAMAR 😂, he def was trying to win the game with his arm.
I thought the same thing, he had a few plays it looked like he had green grass in front of him and instead tried to hang in the pocket for a throw that wasnt there. Was very odd.
@@sergeynazaro1768coaches don’t execute ANY game plan. The players do. Do you even watch football?
Lamar has 2 more chances to win! Hes owed 75M in 2026 & I doubt they'll still be top 3 D year after year when Lamar is eating 25% of the Cap
Here lies the problem tho. Very little cap space next year. Omg wait till you see the free agents. They have like 12 and 6 on defense
Well said
@@tonykiriakidis5219 well it's worse than I thought, if Lamar is back to his 21/22 self they might not even see the playoffs than
@@mailmansteve87nah Lamar is gon continue to grow plus they have legit better weapons and they will be healthy on offense this year I think they gon be straight
@@mailmansteve87that’s a dumb statement. Baltimore was headed to playoffs in both of those seasons before he got hurt.
I’m a big Lamar fan. And I still am. I hope I’m wrong but I’m starting to think that maybe he’s more James Harden than Jimmy Butler.
A running QB has never been close to a Super Bowl victory. Too easy to defend by a good team
Hurts last year
“Lamar Jackson didn’t really play that bad in the first half. There just wasn’t a lot of opportunity.”
The lions offensive line didn’t give purdy any time in the first half. Where’s the excuse for him?
shoulders, chest, pants, shoes lmfaooo how many subs does the ringer need for a video of russillo doing the full wipe me down dance? I NEED IT lmfaooo dass my only takeaway from this vid
Lamar not running in the regular season is the best strategy to get into the playoffs injury-free, but in the playoffs, he should risk injury and run a lot more than he has been. That would also create more open receivers. I put not shifting that strategy on the coaches, not Lamar.
Fresh kicks, fresh white tall tee
Fresh NFL hat, fresh girbauds with the crease
Yeah Josh Allen’s been money in playoffs tbh. I mean the bengals game is the one bad one. Why is media not calling out Lamar ?? How he made pro bowl in 2021 over Allen I still don’t know
They dragging him it just not as deep as how they dragged josh and dax
Pro Bowl's as an achievement in todays league are irrelevant
All pro? Now that's a different story
Just give mahones credit
on SF 30.....is a 47 yarder, not 57
i think part of the reason the niners got the momentum started back in their direction was because they got such a huge stop on 4th and 3 when the lions shouldve just kicked the field goal. that stop seemed to invigorate the niners and was basically the beginning of their ferocious comeback. the numbers wont tell you that and thats 50 percent of why it was such a bad decision on campbells part, make that field goal and the niners hopes get dashed even more, let the niners get a huge 4th down stop and flip the field, gives those guys a ton of hope. the fumbles and drops killed the lions too though.
Exactly. Analytics don’t accurately account for things like that. You’ll even hear some of the analytics supporters say momentum doesn’t exist lol
Analytics need large sample sizes to even out. In the playoffs of any sport, it is too small of a sample size for everything to even out. Lucky bounces and momentum swings decide games.
@@shorewall exactly which is why the "we always rely on analytics because of the sample size" crowd needs to admit there's times to just use intuition/understand the way the momentum may or may not swing.
Is Ryen on a cruise ship?
The Ravens offense literally combusted
Six runs by the running back the entire game is the most disgusting statistic I have ever seen. I mean absolutely inexcusable. Especially for the number one rushing offense in the entire NFL.
Nice view
Lamar is lucky that any criticism of him gets thrown out as racism
A slightly more hyped version of Dak Prescott. You can count on Lamar to have a bad playoff game out of nowhere when things had seemingly lined up for him to be good. Mind boggling
Dak's actually had a couple good playoff games and one great one, Lamar doesn't even have that
Dak an MVP? Dak is 3 years older than Lamar but he’s Dak a 4th round pick who never won an Heisman a mvp first team all pro or made it to the conference championship
"Big fraud-fest in the NFL."
Truer words have never been spoken. 😂 Vegas wins again, huge shock!!
Drexler won in '95. But I get what you are saying. Great insights as always.
Why did this clip spend 10 minutes not talking about the game Lamar Jackson played in lmao
Them NFL Redzone highlights tho...
A lot of y’all just excuse what Lamar peers are doing because the focus is on him to fail a lot of experts had the ravens finishing 3rd in the north & y’all tend to forget Lamar was the number 1 seed the last 3 years before he was hurt he will be fine also what has Watson Allen baker Lawrence tua jones Murray done that Lamar hasn’t I will bet my hard earned dollar that he back in at least the Afc championship game next year!
And lose again
lol this coming from someone named "John Ravens" is hilarious. Lamar is objectively the worst post season player in pro sports and theres nothing you can do about it.
can't wait until he gets audited in the playoffs once again
Turns out Lamar Jackson wasn't quarterbacky enough after all.
Yeah the take of “it’s their time” is never a good indicator of who is going to win
I disagree with the analytics analogy. If you start with $300 and your goal is to go home with $500, you don't split cards when you're at $480. Take the single and go home with the win. They lost perspective that the goal is to win the game, not to pound the 49ers into the ground.
100%
Quarterbacks throw Running Backs run
Not in today's NFL. QBs run and RBs block or catch passes.
@@drewbreezy5854 Do they win SBs?
The problem with the Detroit Lions was that their back end was suspect all year. Brock took chances against one-on-one coverage, and some were successful. When they continued playing one-on-one, he took the opportunities to run. Unlike Lamar, he had plenty of time to run but didn't for some reason. Lamar Jackson was so ineffective that the Chiefs didn't even need to score in the second half. They confused him all day, knowing Lamar couldn't beat them through passing. I'm sorry, but there is no way you can give him the MVP when he has to rely on his arm.
Ah, so Harbaugh gets another free pass. It's all on Lamar 😂
You know ravens have an OC who runs the offense. An OC who helped Lamar win his second MVP. Yesterday wasn’t all Lamar’s fault by any means. Zay flowers on line 1.
@@MrBuckeye1405 They ran the ball 6 times with their RBs, one of whom averaged 7 yards a pop. Did the same thing in the playoff loss to Tennessee in 2019. But, alas, it's everyone else's fault but the HEAD Coach 🤭
did Harbaugh throw one of the worst INT's you can throw inside the 25 into triple coverage? did Harbaugh fumble inside his own 25? keep moving the goal posts for the MVP that is actually the worst post season player in pro sports
@caesar.5252 No goalposts moving is necessary. Lamar threw a horrible pick and continues to make poor decisions in crucial games. Zay Flowers fumbling at the 1-yard line trying to reach the ball over was a horrible mistake that he hopefully learns from. Why did the Ravens run the ball only 6 times with their RBs in a 10-point deficit? Why did a similar situation happen in 2019, where the running game was abandoned after a small deficit with plenty of game time to go? It's never Harbaugh's fault despite him being the HC 😂
@@Benji5220 that's all fair. i've just been seeing nothing but Ravens fans making excuses and moving the goal posts for an MVP QB playing terrible in the playoffs and just chalking it up to Harbaugh and Flowers but you at least were critical of LJ there as well
Baltimore's coaching strategy and tactics against KC were horrific. Harbaugh needs to accept the bulk of the blame for that and for the chippyness and lack of composure of the Ravens. I don't get why Lamar gets crucified (BTW, I'm a Niners fan so there's little love for LJ) but Harbaugh walks away unscathed while his team melts dowm. Lamar reminds me a bit of prime John Elway on mediocre Broncos teams. He was expected to do everything on offense but the fact is that his weapons and schemes were subpar. That's a coaching, GM and franchise problem. LJ, seems the least of their problems.
Yeah this is an underlying thought. Sure Mahomes had a rough regular season but Pacheco is coming strong in the post season and Kelce was an absolute beast against whoever the Ravens threw at him in coverage. All Lamar got for receivers that honestly scared Spagnulo was Zay Flowers and he's just a rookie. Odell didn't really do shit and neither did Bateman, Likely or Andrews. Monken as a offensive play caller also got beat by Spags who was in his bag with the defense. LJ did as much as he can but that Ravens offense isn't ready for sustained playoff success yet.
@@t4d0W Beckham was invisible most of the game. I was a bit surprised because he seemed to be re-emerging toward the end of the season. Regardless, Baltomore is a running team first and they needed to be themselves this game to exert control. Spags must have been rejoicing inside when he saw the path the Ravens were taking. Harbaugh is obviously a good coach. He's had some great talent on D over the years, but they rarely seem to have a balanced offense. LJ's legs during the RS cover up weaknesses that tend to get exposed in the play-offs. Those weaknesses become apparent in personnel, philosophy and scheme against a great defense. I was surprised that Harbaugh blinked. KC's defense deserves credit.
after watching Lamar, you have to appreciate Josh Allen more
Because Josh Allen can throw for 100 more yards in his loss to Mahomes? Who gives af. Both loses.
@@drewbreezy5854 no, coz at least Josh didn’t fold like Lamar did….
I don’t wanna hear anything about Lamar. That fumble at the 1 yard line changes the entire game. Also his OC all of a sudden deciding he’s Phillip Rivers and should drop back with no misdirection or weaponizing what they’ve used all year is a bigger issue than anything. Also … the Chiefs played a super conservative 2nd half more so than Baltimore stopping them. Reid & Spags realized The Ravens were in their own way and they didn’t need to take any risk.
It’s simple, Lamar is NOT an elite passer! He doesn’t have the accuracy to get it done! That’s why people say he is a running back, he needs that part of his game to make up for his bad passing game
every top defense besides maybe the chiefs got lit up these playoffs
the Ravens defense didnt get lit up.They gave up 2 total TDs(20 total points) in 2 playoff games.
If you don't think the 2 4th downs were stupid, then you should stop following football because you don't understand the game.
Taking the points and flipping the field is crazy underrated by analytics.
a 57 yarder from the opponent's 30?
If its how you played all season and it was successful, then I see no issue. People wanna cry and say oh but this oh but that. That man brought detroit back from being irrelevant to the NFCCG. To criticise him doing what hes done in the moment to get to that moment is silly.
So many games have been lost this season because these coaches like to go for it on 4th down. They get await with it because the announcers won’t criticize anyone anymore. They especially won’t criticize some of these phantom holding calls. Like the one against the Chiefs to keep them from going up 24 to 7.
Lamar is the most overrated player in the history of sports
What?
B-o-o-s-i-e
Lions cut a kicker who was doing well this year too. I'd say Campbell has trust issues with kickers. 😂 Lamar likes money more than winning, Baltimore will never get there. Harbaughs are grossly overrated also.
lamaRB
Dude live on a boat?
Lamar is still at best, the 4th best qb in the AFC. Allen’s better. Mahomes is. Burrow is. Sorry.
Mahomes is better and until one of those other 3 wins it all, why debate who is 2nd best? Waste of time.
@@drewbreezy5854 how convenient
For the algo
Was Josh Allen entrapped and encouraged by the FBI?
It is NOT “onsideS kick”! Jesus fkn Christ, you’re a college grad? You’re a writer? That Bill Shakespeare over there? Ry-guy been using all your writing papers for rrrrrrrollin doobies?!?!!
It’s onside* kick, onside***. Defenders can go offsideS, kicks can not. And tell Greg Olsen. I was screaming at him through the tv yesterday too. Between that and “it’s easy to second guess results in hindsight”.
It is Greg, u can second guess in real time too.
This is an important point, I HATE this shit
Its pretty simple. The guy has an IQ of about 90. If the ravens cant play their way and are down in the 4th, Lamar isnt leading you anywhere.
You're probably right, but prepare to be called a racist. That's how it works, unfortunately
Yeah totally not the team as a whole playing dogshit on offense outside of literally 3 drives where they went straight down the field easily.
@vsauce4678 Are you telling me you trust his decision making when the other team knows he has to throw the ball?
@@tonyperkis420yes bro why are yall acting it’s the end of the world the man lost to Kansas freaking city he woulda had a td that would have put them within three a lot of stuff weren’t wrong
@@DeontaeMiller look at his playoff numbers. Look at his numbers when his team is down by 10 or more in the second half. Numbers don't lie
Rigged as fuck
Sorry. wifey said no more gambling
Stop with the jan 6th stuff. Youre such a typical liberal northeastern DB. Im out
Lamar Kelly? Jim Jackson?
QBS JOSH ALLEN HAS BEAT OUTSIDE OF LAMAR IN THE PLAYOFFS
1. PHILLIP RIVERS
2. SKYLAR THOMPSON
3. MAC JONES
4. MASON RUDOLPH
YEA SOME LIST🥱