Bach, Beethoven And Beyond: Classical Music In Germany | Meet the Germans
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2022
- Musical connoisseurs will know that Germany's classical legacy is practically unrivalled. This week on Meet the Germans, Rachel finds out how Germany built its musical reputation and how much Germans actually care about the genre today.
Rachel moved from the UK to Germany in 2016. As a relative newcomer she casts a fresh eye over German clichés and shares her experiences of settling into German life. Every two weeks she explores a new topic - from unusual bans to meaty cuisine or haunted castles. This week: German classical music and composers.
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A world without Bach would be unimaginable.
Yes, but a world without Rachel, equally so.
@@grahamstubbs4962 🧡 I need to work a liiiittle harder to match his legacy though...
* correction : western world
Here in Asia, we have totally different music genres. Ancient Indian classical music, Chinese music, Japnese Traditional music are unique and made our world better in the East.
@@success163 I don't know about India, but Bach and Western classical music are HUGE in China and Japan. In many cases it's even more popular than the traditional music of those countries.
Frei nach Loriot:
A world without Bach would be ...possible, but pointless.
I started to listen to Bach 3 months ago. since then im addicted to his music. But now it got rly hard for me to find the same joy and relief in modern music.
same, since I discovered classical, I grew to dislike other genres.
You are on a great track to wonderful journeys :D
Are you a classical music fan? 🎶
Yes, and while Beethoven is my all time favorite I really appreciate them all.
Ja, Handel ist mein Favorit.
Ja, Bach ist der beste!
Classical music is my life. Especially of romantic and barock/renaissance era. I can't live without playing in orchestra and hearing some Mendelssohn
Yes
The comment about Bach being rock 'n' roll is so true. One of the Bach pieces I did in high school was "Christ lag in Todesbanden". It was so much fun to see the sopranos struggle with the boring held tones while the basses rocked out with a wildly moving melodic line that was a precursor to the syncopation of Joplin's rags.
So many thoughts....I started playing piano when I was four in the USA. My parents took me to Germany when I was seven to Bonn and I still remember being in Beethoven's house. As I progressed in my studies, eventually getting a degree in classical piano, I was steeped in Bach, Beethoven, Brahms, Schumann, Schubert, Schumann, Mendelssohn and yet they were in my mind 'just' the Germans. There were also the Russians I loved and the French.... It wasn't until I moved to Germany that the absolute weight of all that came from this one small country hit me. It is such an outsized legacy and really quite remarkable.
I am very honored to be a music teacher here in Germany.
Way to go, congrats!!! Just 1 minor detail though: Schubert was Austrian.
@@magusl9628 But at Schubert's time Austria was as German as Prussia or Bavaria.
@@Vrumfondel it still is
Another great one describing the cultural experience of Deutschland. As always, amazing to see Rachel! 😊
Cheers Anurag!
'Meet the Germans' after a long time 🤩
Been working hard behind the scenes :D More videos coming your way soon...
I really enjoyed the visit to Leipzig in this episode... having lived there, I can honestly say you fall in love with classical music there, whether a connoisseur or someone who has a very little knowledge of the topic like myself. I love these musical cities and towns 😍
Leipzig really is a charming musical city 😌
A well done story. „E“ for Excellent! Vielen dank. German composers are at the Top of the Scale. 🎼 🎻 🎵
Thanks Jill - they really are pretty impressive!
@@RachelStewart04 Vielen dank Rachel! Happy kleiner Freitag. ☀️
Never heard of Austrian composers? Most "German Composers" lived and or worked in austria
The secret of Bach: he added harmony to melody, opening up an entire new dimension. That's why it is such touching music. The well tempered piano and this polyphonic stuff is also the reason why Jazz musicians are following him.
Rachel, thank you. I love living in Leipzig. Most Saturday evenings at 5pm there is a world class organ recital in the Nicholai Kirche for just two Euros. Never heard one in Swindon where I used to live.
it is so impressive how much (often free) music is on offer in Leipzig. A truly musical city :) Are you a loyal Bach fan?
@@RachelStewart04 Thank you for your reply. I always enjoy your posts and yes, Johann Sebastian Stream is one of my favourites, as are all the others. Hildegard von Bingen was a genius, although my favourite piece of music of all time is Vaughan Williams' Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis.
The best way for kids to get in touch with classical music is "Peter and the Wolf“. Is written by Prokofjew a Russian composer. Easy to understand and kids will love it. That’s what I learned in German "Grundschule“
Oh yes, nice and playful :)
And the other classical piece that I remember from primary school is "Die Moldau" or "Vltava" from Smetana, where the music reflects the different stages in the run of the river.
@@annarita333 I also love "La mer" from Debussy!
Meet The Germans has to be at the very top of Informative yet Entertaining presentations on CZcams. Well done to you Rachel and all who facilitate your very clever reports.
Cheers Ralph, glad you enjoy watching them as much as I do making them! :)
Thank you, Ralph :)
Bach was an innovator who was different to other innovators. Usually in music history, a composer or a group of composers started something new which was then picked up by others who developed that further until mastery. Bach did not only start it, he developed his ideas to the edge!
I just love classical music. Without it life is a dull.
I was watching an interview video of Yuja Wang, the pianist phenom and I loved how she said, "I don't know if I should say this out loud but I most feel most at home with the Berlin Philharmonic." High praise.
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I think berlin philharmonics are established as one of, ot not the best symphonic orchestra. So it's rather the other way around, Yuja Wang being honored getting to play with them in germany!
Haven't the foggiest idea about classical music but it still has a special place in my heart. I love watching the new year's Day concert by the Vienna philharmonic orchestra on TV, there's something special about it that you don't get anywhere else in music, something peaceful
When I went to Leipzig for the first time, I began to wander and found the Thomaskirche. No big feat of course however I did not know about it!!!
It was weird because despite my "wandering" it was as if I knew to walk directly to it, I went directly there from the HBF!
And....in addition to what I quickly learned about it, I walked in during a choir practice!! And got to attend a Motette that night!!!
It was absolutely magical!!!
Also, from my childhood in the States, my all time favorite piece of music is "Ode to Joy". Before moving to Germany I had no idea that it was used by the EU. I think very few people are impressed when I say that its my favorite piece of music and it's probably the most over played to so many people LOL
Same, we just kept stumbling upon choirs and string recitals 😆 so lovely!
Well, Freude schöner Götterfunken or Ode to Joy is actually a part of Beethovens ninth symphony. Maybe you wanna try the whole masterwork as well? Its breathtaking 🙏
@@liloruf2838 "an die Freude", originally written by Schiller. Yeah, the choral piece is within the 4th movement which is why i specifically called it a "piece" and not a song. I am doing something wrong if you thought that I was unfamiliar with where it came from.
I have seen the Berlin Philharmonie perform the entire 9th in the HCC Kuppelsaal in Hannover. I cried. LOL
Cool! I'd love to hear it live with Berlin Philharmonics, just had it at new years eve in Elbphilharmonie in Hamburg.
I cried too
But because they literally interrupted it at the most delicate moments to play some saxophone and voice jazz for minutes. I'll never forget that pain, Cambreling is a monster.
Hurra! Rachel ist zurück! Love Bach, especially "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desire"-my parent's wedding march.
Such a beautiful piece! :)
We had that as well, but on solo guitar. I guess it's magic unfolds even on a kazoo.
Bach transcends time. In 2019, Bach was named the greatest composer of all time in a poll conducted among 174 living composers. There's a reason Bach's music features three times-more than that of any other composer-on the Voyager Golden Record, a gramophone record containing a broad sample of the images, common sounds, languages, and music of Earth, sent into outer space with the two Voyager probes. It is the best man kind has to offer.
After watching Brandenburg Concertos on a Freiburger Barockorchester DVD I started researching this group and the classical music scene in Germany. Now I can't stop because it's so good!
I think classical music from germany is always great. It will always have a place in the world (to me.) This was another great presentation by you Rachel.
What a lively, comprehensive, interesting presentation! Normally i'm not interested in classical music, but this episode was amazing! And i don’t know exactly why, but i think, your outfit went perfectly with this video, wow and thanks a lot!
Thank you!
Hooray! I also didn't know much about this topic before, but found it really interesting in the end. And my jumper did at least match the colour of the seating in the Musikhochschule auditorium :D
@@RachelStewart04 , and you look really good seated by the piano 🙂 4:40
That must be a full sized model D Steinway. It's a piano most of us only dream about.
Finally, Rachel and Musik 😍😀
Are you a big music fan Korina?
@@RachelStewart04 I sure am! The power it has to evoke emotions and memories is such a gift 😀 how about you? Hope you’re having a great summer and stay hydrated
Bach inspires everyone in the world. Even a famous group from Korea used the sample of Bach in their intro.
No it doesn't
Thanks for another great story Rachel, I really enjoying watching the Meet the Germans series on DW.
Thanks for watching!
I remember that in elementary school I used to play the flute A LOT. I had to play the songs from Bach and Beethoven. I knew them extremely well.
Great video! music is endless and the legacy of german composers through time is unquestionable, nice insights and great brief idea of the subject, and great feature on female composers!
Was looking forward to this since the earlier video on entertainment music! Great video 🎉
I really like Germany and their classical music! Great video!
I really would love to see an episode about the tradition of Schützenfest
A great reason to come to Hannover!!! And Rachel should let me know if she ever does a video in Hannover! I would love that!
Oo yes that would be cool. I lived in Neuss for a while and it was quite a big deal there!
@@RachelStewart04 to the best of my knowledge the biggest Schützenfest event is in Hannover but I haven't researched it enough to know if that is factual.
Interesting video! It's a vast theme, but you did a great job.
Thanks Rachel! Love this episode
Bravo to whomever edited that transition at 2:30 very nice :)
Haha thanks - I was not expecting it to work out this smoothly 😆
wow so much information regarding German music 🎼🎼 . Rachel described it in more interesting and informative way. 👍👍👍👍👍
Best one yet. Thank you.
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Absolutely loved this!
Very, very well made - and I have to admit that, even as a music lover, most of what I saw was new to me. Thank you so much for making and sharing.
I wonder if a feature dealing with German science and/or German innovation would do for a nice one?
Thank you 😃 and nice idea, will look into science & innovation 🤓
0:19: Ah, Rachel in front of the Commerzbank in Leipzig. I have been there on the Bach-Fest a couple of days ago.
1:27: And back in Bonn. ;-)
Haha sharp eyes!!
Thanks for the video, very interesting. Every time I go to Germany I am impressed by what you mention regarding the number of orchestras, festivals, opera houses, plus you have to buy tickets well in advance (or get lucky on the day of the concert outside the theater). It is something that I certainly enjoy a lot about Germany and at least in my case the quality of the music, festivals, museums has managed to convince me as a means to attract me to the country, to its culture. One might think that everyone in Germany likes classical music, but that's not the case.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!
Hooray!
Another excellent video from Rachel 👍😊 I could quite happily watch a 30 or 60 minute documentary of this, perhaps following the life of a composer, or more broadly covering the development of music in Germany 🇩🇪 🤗
Maybe as I get older I'll start speaking slower and the videos will get longer :D
There are many such documentaries on CZcams (on specific composers and German music generally) to tide you over until Rachel drops her Doku!
She's BACK! Yay!
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Fascinating.
I consider myself lucky to discover classical music at the age of 16 in Hong Kong, where currently not many programs and concerts. It’s really just sad that my mom and my classmates wouldn’t listen to classical music because it’s not to their appeal but never even try… They are REALLY missing out some experiences that I don’t understand how people can die before listening.
so good
The biggest difference between classical music and the rest is that classical music is timeless. They still remain popular after centuries, while most of the pop music don't last more than few years.
This was great! I'd love to see other German musicians covered in more depth as well as German art. It's lovely that you show the younger folks in Germany, but would you consider doing something on active retired people? What do they do and where do they go--how do they socialize and stay active?
I love all Beethoven's music especially his ninth of Europe's famous anthem: Ode to Joy.
Ok u guys need to post more !! Like 10 times a day ;)
Thank you for the love ❤️❤️ we shall try our best!
Beautiful 🕊
Love it.
Lots of people heard composition from Bach and Beethoven but don't know the composer even the title. Yet they enjoy it
Like the Moonlight Sonata. ;-)
@@Nikioko I like Moonlight Sonata and Fur Elise too
Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, and Haydn some of the best and my favorite classical composer.❤️
Good to hear there's good arts funding in Germany. Would be good to see more of that in the UK too.
I've been listening to classical music since age 10 and it's like an endless ocean. Although I listen to all verity of music except metal and similar music, but classical music is so different. To me it's true music, one has to understand it. If you don't get it you never will.
Amazing video once again. Yes, you have absolutely done Justice to the request.
🥳 thanks!
Hildegard von Bingen. And a Saint too!
Please, do not forget the music from Passionsspiele Oberammergau!
Bach and Beethoven are always on my Liszt.
I'm being reductive, but those are the three peaks of musical achievement. Imho.
Her demonstration is unique
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I have some German imported records of classical music from the 1960's and 1970's from the Deutsche Grammaphoen
Kann das Thema eventuell auf einige der Konzerthäuser und Philharmonien ausgeweitet werden?
Beethoven's the man in my book.
It would be great if You could make an episode about Austria or the relationship, differencies and similarities between Germany and Austria.
Love the chanell!!❤❤🇦🇹🇩🇪
Thanks for the idea! Noted :)
And the Guardian of the Classical Music, BEETHOVEN! the PHILOSOPHER! of course. 🙌🧐
What about the Bayreuth Festival?
I'm a connoisseur of Rachel Stewart! For real!
Even sting considers bach to be one of a kind.
Haven’t seen Rachel in a while. I she still doing the Meet the Germans episodes?
Erwin Schulhoff, Hans Pfitzner, Paul Hindemith, Hans Eisler, Kurt Weill, Richard Wetz, Erich Korngold, Viktor Ullman, Carl Orff, Siegfried Wagner. Lots of music to explore.
And Richard Strauss of course.
Their first names are Erwin, Hans, Paul, Hans, Kurt, Richard, Viktor.
Music is everything, music is life, all greatest music from Germany.
Geen dag zonder bach
Our Philharmonie orchestra Bremerhaven have make a concert together with a DJ Called CAS PARIS. A very innovative music Video. EDM Meets Classic.
I love classical music.. Also there is the fact that mozart was austrian but his father was german..
To be precise, he wasn't Austrian either. Salzburg back when he lived wasn't part of Austria, it was an independent country governed by the catholic church.
If someone would have asked him if we was German he most likely would have said yes, just as most people between Meran and Kiel, as they all were united in the "Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation". A few years after Mozart died, Salzburg became shortly a part of Austria then became part of Bavaria and the Bavarian kings lived there for a while and then again it became part of Austria.
So while today Salzburg of course is Austrian, trying to assign a nationality in the terms we define it today to Mozart is really difficult. And that's not only for Mozart, but for many historical figures that lived before 1870.
Austrians, Germans...we are the same. We bavarians share more with them than with some people of our country. In my opinion we are all germans.
Next Episode should be about Industrie
Like different industries across the country/throughout history?
@@RachelStewart04 since Germany is well known for its industrial quality, i would be very happy if the next video could be about the history of the German industry in general and the evolution of it through time, and maybe how it changed and got affected due to the ww2 and other crisis and most importantly the future of the industry and the challenges that ita facing in the current times.
And thank you for the reply I'm a big fan 😊☺️❤️❤️😂
Is Schubert’s, “Winterreise” widely performed in Germany? And, Mendelsohn’s , “Song without Words”? Is Gustav Mahler’s music popular, and if so, is there a particular symphony?
A nice entertaining short video; well rounded, but does Rachel really play the piano? Playing guitar, I don’t mainly listen to classical music, but sometimes it does certainly scratch an itch.
I played when I was younger and would love to get back into it - just need to get a flat big enough for a piano first... ☺
@@RachelStewart04 True :D With the current rents and all that maybe just sneak in a keyboard instead...
am a huge fan of Bach & Beethoven and many other composers the Mendelssohns Schumanns Schubert. I like listening to concerts streamed from Hamburg . Joanna Mallwitz is a wonderful conductor who interviews well too! I think Germany is a bit behind the 8 ball employing women in leadership roles. I hope I am wrong. would love to be contradicted
My then boyfriend wanted to study jazz music. He got into the U-department in Weimar because he could also play Bach. Something other (especially West German) jazz musicians couldn't do.
😮 when was this?
auf jeden Fall mag ich ernste Musik 🖤🤍
I don't consider Bach as German, Mozart as Austrian or Vivaldi as Italian. They are World treasures, IMO.
Ppl tend to associate classical music with piano and violins, which is only a tiny part of all of music, and people have only play the piece and think pianist have good technique but never about the music itself and the musical interpretation. That’s why people who claim that they like classical music don’t even know ppl like wagner mahler bruckner etc…
Aus USA: noch ein Hit Rachel. Gute Arbeit!
You comletely forgot Mozart, who was German, but never Austrian, as many wrongly belive.
Germany is a school of modern science and art
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Weiß jemand wie das wunderschöne Stück heißt, dass ca. von Minute 2:17-2:30 gespielt wird?
Die neunte Symphonie von Ludwig von Beethoven, Satz I (?)
I love you guys
How is it that the boundary between high classical and romanticism is so drastically different in Germany and the English-speaking countries: in Germany, Beethoven is one of the high classicists, while the English (and similar) consider Beethoven one of the romantics?
Isn't the most important question whether Mozart is Austrian or German? :)
i am planning to move to germany to learn music, Can you guys me help understand it more
Still waiting for the Northern German/Labskaus video😂🙈
Just realised that I am German, so I probably should write in German....
Coming soon… 👀😁
Nicht zu vergessen ein Herr namens Mozart, der zwar in Salzburg geboren waren, dessen Vorfahren sich aber bis 1487 in die Nähe von Augsburg zurückverfolgen lassen.
You missed Bruch
I love Beethoven. He's 3rd greatest composer of all time. 😅😘
I am a classical musician in the USA; I have studied and performed this canon of German works almost entirely on my side of the Atlantic. For our audiences, this music is a sign of luxury and refinement, but I have always wondered if German people consider it the same as North American patrons or as more a part of their national identity? Does the contemporary German right-wing, for example, still appropriate classical music for patriotic purposes?
My personal understanding is that classical has fewer luxury/class connotations here - but perhaps some Germans will chime in! Thanks for sharing your thoughts 🙂
@@RachelStewart04 Hm, maybe not luxury/class connotations but maybe it's more connected to the "intellectual" side of society? But that's still very bold to say. There are a lot of classical open airs in summer, and all kinds of people show up and enjoy it! I think because there is much on offer, from free musical experiences, to cheap but also expensive tickets, it is quite easy to get access to classical music. Sure, not everyone is a fan, but I think everyone kind of values and respects it.
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There are something aboutJ. S Buch and how's peoples Deutch warking sur nature ... And Mozart mentally with youth Deutch...
There is also F for Funktionale Musik.