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unlike a lot of Marvel's heros being turned into legacy heros I like x-23 taking over as Wolverine. The difference being that she has been established for a while and her inheritance of the role makes complete sense.
It's just like Bucky Cap, or Scott Lang ant-man, it is the sort of development that prevents stagnation. Ms. Marvel, at least, is pretty great on its own merits for the others.
Marvel still in the shitter
I like Miles, mostly because he was almost forced to become Spidey out of necessity, and he learned as he went along. So it almost didn't feel like a replacement, but a different adaptation. He's a much better character now though after the Spider-Verse and Insomniac games helped flesh him out more
X-Men Evolution was my childhood
Loved that show
i like that show also
MINE too Lbs
xmen 90's was mine
Liviu Calmuschi same
I like this character. She seems really interesting and now I'm gonna look up some stories with her in them.
Good man
She’s very powerful
Logan was the first character I ever had a fondness for, so my feelings to his death are mixed.
But Laura filling his shoes is pretty boss. Not mad about that part at all.
i like it. it's they passed the torch on to her
I'm not mad about either, but I think she should just be her own character. With her own book; I don't like the current trend Marvel has going. In where they are making some of their most popular and well established characters female or another race or sometimes both. They want to make new female characters or whatever, write them strong enough to stand on their own instead of them taking the place of a character that already does. What they are doing now seems forced like they are just trying to please a very small but vocal minority.
+Laughing Man I see your point but it's really hard to create characters that last if they're not connected to the universe intimately. I feel like it's partly fan service but also partly an attempt to get you to pay attention to the new character as they come the shadow of someone established into their own.
on the note of females and minority characters in comics, it really hasn't been done often or well so I'm willing to let them try a bunch of things or until something sticks. no offense to Caucasians but the world has been shown alot through their eyes and it's long past time for comics to take diversity seriously. it just makes for more story potential. ex. jane foster thor. her story is an interesting piece of Thor lore because her human form is literally dying. Donald Blake's only real setback was a limp which is probably why they never told many Donald stories.
sorry for the paragraphs, I just love to put my nerdy two cents in with comments like yours
darique warren Honestly, as long as legacy or replacement characters are done tastefully and with good thought, I like them better then the decade old classics. There has been a few stumbles in the way some characters have been introduced, but to me they have been mostly successes, actually.
I don't care about the race or gender of a character as long as they are consistent and reasonably plausible. Laura has been rocking the new wolverine comic, imo. Great.
Meeko1010100112 he's coming back this year
I love wolverine. Logan cannot be replaced as wolverine any more than Peter Parker can as Spider-Man. When referring to either one it is necessary to delineate which one you are talking about because they are unique characters and their specific personalities make the character.
All that being said I fully approve of x-23 taking on the mantle of wolverine including his costume. She isn't Logan. They share similar traits but she is a distinct individual and I see her taking on the mantle as an homage (as well as a way for marvel to continue to profit from Logan's popularity). I would like to see her slowly start changing his costume to better suit her own personality as she lets him go and becomes her own person not living in his shadow.
thank you.
Lovely opinion
Name her Badger. I'd call her that.
Actually, spider-man has been several different people over the years.
Personally i wanted to Doc Ok replace permanently Peter as Spiderman, Superior Spiderman was dope
It gets pretty annoying to go through comments and see how a lot of people react to characters they don't read anyways. "make new characters" gets tiring when it happens constantly anyways.
Either way, X-23 is a really enjoyable character to read, she deserves this mantle considering she really is a daughter to Logan when it comes down to it. That and well, Daken is a douche.
Don't bother wasting your breath arguing with the Internet, they don't read comics they just bitch about the cover
+Zeta Rise are you going to do any more videos? It's not often for someone talk about the Gundam franchise.
osamapiwable I will, just busy with 4 film courses and work.
maccajoe You say you've been reading for a long time, but if you say that it makes it seem like you only skim and don't really read much. Because again, we get tons of new characters constantly, from the waves after the initiative, from the heroic age, from post shattered heroes, from Avengers World, Infinity/terrigen mist stuff, it goes on.
Riri hasn't really been fleshed out yet, her stuff is in the fall so one can't truly have a full opinion on her when it comes to the narrative. But I guess one could be scummy and bring up her race as many already have.
You shouldn't allow your own selfish wants get in the way of judging a story.
+Zeta Rise nice strawmans
Tbh I really like X-23 as wolverine
Same
+Joel Purvis why? Wolverines _do_ have claws on their feet. You know this, right?
Thank you me too she really fills out the outfit and it looks amazing on her.
+Joel Purvis It's a nod to the fact that she's an imperfect clone of Wolverine.
+Joel Purvis you seem pressed.
X-23 is probably my favorite "new" character. I've enjoyed her story thus far and love how her character has developed.
I miss Logan, but I LOVE LAURA!!! She is an awesome wolverine and they such tribute to Logan in her stories that it helps, He don't have to come Laura's got it covered
I like X-23 as the new wolverine! I think it's really refreshing and gives a whole new perspective to Wolverine by turning it into mantel carried on by his child of sorts, also the female perspective, in my opinion, is a very insightful addition to the iconic character that can create an additional dynamic to the title.
I really like X-23 as Wolverine. Logan's whole shtick got played out anyway, "am I good? am I evil? I'm a monster! JEAN!!". I've followed X-23 from the beginning and one can only hope she continues on the "Harley Quin-esk" path she's going down.
This is for the angry portion of the comment section, but I hope Rob sees this comment and makes a video about it discussing why Wolverine/Logan' departure was necessary, I'd love to watch that. So many people in the comment section talk as if they know why Logan was killed off, and Laura picked up the mantle. Here's a bit of insight for you. It was not because of a politically correct agenda made to push X-23 on us. It was a creative concern over at Marvel Comics. Logan/Wolverine as a character suffered from overexposure. Which ended up damaging him as a character all the while causing continuity issues.
Everyone was writing Wolverine, he was in every book, even the one's that he had no reason to be in. Everyone who wrote him had their own version and their own beliefs as to where he should go and how he should develop, and none of the editors were talking to each other about their own changes to him. Logan was pulled in so many different directions. One comic saw him trying to be a school teacher and be a good example to his students, the other saw him wanting to avoid things like teaching students all the while being a stone cold killer. In one comic we had Logan patch things up with Cyclops, only for another comic to have the both of them antagonistic towards each other, and split the school over an ideological difference.
All this happening at the same damn time MADE NO SENSE. Logan had no similar tone or consistency, he was whatever any writer wanted him to be just to shoehorn him into a storyline. Marvel Comics noticed this and decided to shelve the character for the time being. Killing him SAVED HIM. Wolverine is my favorite comic book character of all time, and to put that into perspective. There's only 4 that I like. How could any true fan of Wolverine ever miss the bullshit that we were getting is beyond me. He was put in certain comic runs just to get his ass kicked by people that realistically shouldn't have been able to touch him. All in an attempt to make whoever he was brought up against popular.
Wolverine is a century old war vet who has been in more wars than Captain America, he's a master samurai, master ninja, master of almost all forms of martial arts, has fast enough reflexes to impress Peter Parker, DareDevil level enhanced senses and is confirmed to be a genius by Forge. Backed by the fact that at one point, Logan is able to outsmart both Doctor Doom and Arcade. But no. All we got in recent years was pop claws + battle cry + bum rush + lose = Wolverine. Da fuck? Thats not how he is supposed to act. He's not the type of idiot who would do something like that, but that's how the recent media sells him! He'll be back when Marvel Comics really needs him. Let him stay dead for now, until they can figure out how to properly tackle the character with respect. Old Man Logan and Laura are a good dynamic. And as for making new characters. Marvel put a ban on the creation of any new mutant characters, but thats a different topic.
+BigBlackGWAR Movie rights are just one of the other lesser factors. Which I doubt they care that much about when it comes to Wolverine/Logan the singular character in the comic book space considering the fact that Logan is still around in the form of Old Man Logan. Otherwise they would've stopped Old Man Logan and X-23 long ago, and shit even Deadpool because he's making money for Fox now so that whole notion is flawed. Now if you mentioned the X-men as a whole. Then I would have to agree. Marvel is playing the long game for the X-men. And no. 20th century Fox doesn't get anything from the toy's, comics or video games sold. Marvel fully owns all of those rights. They simply don't want to give Fox free promotion for their live action movies (Which Fox does own the rights to). But they are not completely stupid so sometimes they can be reasoned with so there's that. However you in no way presented anything that can refute what I said, and you're coming at me not even knowing that it's Fox who has the Fantasic Four film rights, not Universal. You don't have your facts straight, yet you're trying to tell me that I am wrong? Try again though. Until then, toodles!
Here's the fault in your logic, though: Fox also owns X-23. Fox owns licensing rights to EVERY SINGLE MUTANT. The writers are currently forbidden from creating new mutant characters BECAUSE Fox will own the license to them. Marvel didn't exactly reacquire the rights to Spider-Man either, they worked out a deal with Sony Pictures to allow Spider-Man to appear in the MCU movies.
@stefan kovacevic Yep I agree. The film rights issue is hurting the X-men as a group in the comics. It's so meta combined with what the X-men stand for too. Marvel literally isn't treating mutants equally in the comics. It's crazy when you think about it.
+Nolan Corbin Exactly! I'm trying to figure out where BigBlackGWAR is coming from. It's like people don't want to just do research on this before they say something. Or if they do say something they tell you you're wrong and walk away, without giving any explaination. We're all a part of the comic book fandom here. If you have the opportunity to enlighten someone else then do it. Don't leave them ignorant. That's just being an asshole lol.
XxiicEBoiixX you pretty much summed it up. People dont realize he is one of the very best hand to hand combatants in the Marvel universe with some of the best singular tactical thinking. Becoming one of the most popular characters made him become one of the most overused characters and polluted the character itself. When he comes back, proper usage with limited exposure would probably restore the popularity he once had. Mean, gruff, nasty, a deadly weapon but with a code of honour. A Loner yet one who looks after those he does care about. I like X 23 but there is no one that does Wolverine like Logan does Wolverine. Its like replacing Clint Eastwood.
I like it. She's a good successor. I like it when a passing of the torch is done well. I also like these in depth character and history videos.
I've been a fan of X-23 since she showed up in Evolution. I'm glad shes getting the spotlight.
I think All new Wolverine adds to her character especially the issue featuring squirrel girl. Also the pet wolverines name is Johnathan. Its important to the story!
It seems that when she is completely fleshed out, X-23 is a very interesting character. I'm interested in how they will incorporate her into the final Wolverine film.
I hope better than Emma Frost or Mystique. It's her chance to go mainstream like she deserves, so she can hold a solo series without needing the Wolverine name when she's actually quite different character.
Rob, I believe there is room for both X-23 and Logan.
Yes, Wolverine has been my favorite comic book character since the early 80s. I don't want to see him go away permanently and I like that he can be a father figure to Laura as she struggles to find her way in life.
As always, your videos rock.
Loves both
X gonna give it to ya.
I love x23 as a character and as wolverine.
Both Wolverines are awesome.
I do want the old Wolverine to return in some way but his death is so symbolic and peaceful that I'd be happy if he finally said his goodbyes.
I want to see them side by side maybe in a solo series where they are private detective investigating missing mutants
X-23 is one of my favorites characters in the marvel universe. And I like this video because in the way you bring out her character and that you show the which comic series we are in.
Wolverine has been one of my all-time favorite mutants but Logan has lived longer than most people to say an understatement and from the innocent lost storyline I've grown to love her Laura is the perfect new Wolverine and I love just continually seeing her grow as a character
Definitely love what Tom Taylor's been doing with X-23 as Wolverine. The series has been fantastic for her character.
I love X-23! Haven't read any of the comics but I remember her from x-men evolution :) gonna check her out
I love X-23 and I hope she has a part in the upcoming "Old Man Logan" film.
I think she will, but my fingers are crossed that she will be portrayed WELL. They have every reason to, with Wolverine being the centerpiece of their universe til this point, just, after seeing their Emma Frost...
Hilarious Breakfast bet you were happy
@@R3GARnator surprisingly fox respected the character they portrayed her as her own character and didn't try to make her the next wolverine the whole movie both logan and Charles were trying to tell her not to be wolverine and be better than how her father was to have a better life.
X-23/Luara deserves the mantle of Wolverine since she is his daughter, but I like Gabby more!
I kinda like the idea of X-23 being the new Wolverine, but at the same time i'd almost like to see Logan come back but in a much different light, one where hes trying to avoid these major conflicts, changes his name, avoiding joining up with the x-men or avengers or any of them, and instead working underground, trying to avoid letting anyone know hes still alive, trying to be something new and trying to erase himself, then slowly turning into the Old man logan type. I don't think it would work super well as a stand alone series, but it might, and they could just have him return in many years and explain that is what he's been doing all these years/months (depending on when they bring him back)
Sounds like you should be a comics writer :)
Wolverine is, and probably always will be one of my favourite characters. That said, I've always found X23 to be a fascinating character,well deserving of centre stage. It's just sad to see Logan gone... But then, how much more can they do with him?
I actually really like X23 now that I know her origin story and morals. I'm looking forward to seeing her on the big screen.
love anything x-men...X-23 is one of my favorite character along with gambit, wolverine, and magneto
I think one of my favorite things is when an original character created outside of comics get integrated into comics (i.e. X-23, Phil Coulson, Harley Quinn).
I would love to see the old wolverine back but it time to past the torch. I believe X-23 is doing just fine
I do like X-23 as the new Wolverine, and I think they should continue with her, even after Logan is inevitably resurrected
I hope x-23 continues as wolverine. We do not need yet another death reversal.
I Honestly have no problem with this character. Wolverine will always be my favorite X-Man. But with him essentially dead now in the main universe it's good to have a character who can continue his legacy while bringing something new to the table.
Indeed in fact x-23 as the new wolverine actually makes a lot more sense
Can you do a video explaining Daken, the son of Wolverine?
basically a younger wolverine in a tapout shirt and a can of fourloko. there you go. explained.
+shadowboundsoul Shoot, that's pretty accurate.
Lol!
Yeah I never hear about him
WAIT, WOLVERINE HAS A FUCKING SON?! Now I hate that I've not been able to keep up with comic books. GodDAMN real life!
Bro, that was an amazing video. I never cared for Laura, but you def brought her to life for me. Thank you
Has this channel ever covered the Runaways?
Love your channel. I had no idea how extensive X-23 history is, and it's complexities. Want the original Wolverine back.
I hate that they did this. In fact, I hate the direction Marvel is taking all together. DC tried to change things up with New 52, and it failed. They realized their mistake and they are shifting the focus back to the origins of the characters. Marvel is changing things up to fit some strange idea of political correctness. Which is ok I guess, but I would rather them simply make new characters and not kill off or gender or race swap pre-exisiting ones. I grew up loving wolverine and thor.. now they made them female. Sucks.
I dont see how the changes are political correctness. Thor is still gonna be Thor since he's getting another Mijolnor, and as for Wolverine, he kinda needed death to occur due to everything he suffered in life, and honestly X-23 is a good wolverine.
your stupid they're not killing off characters or gender swapping for PC Thor is a title who ever can wield the hammer is worthy of his power, and Wolverine is one of the most overrated characters of all time
Yeah I'd love if they'd just make new characters. And it's not like women are under represented in comics either. There are so many female X-Men and Avengers. Captain Marvel, Black Widow, Wasp, She Hulk, Spider-woman, Storm, Jean Grey, etc.
What I do think is an under represented demographic are hispanics, asians, and arabs.
Saying black people and women are under represented in comics is laughable at best.
+The Maker Yeah, I love strong female characters and diverse characters, but not when it's done as a cheap gimmick. With DC rebirth, the animated movies, live action shows and videogames we see that they still care about narrative story telling and their comic book fans. While Marvel is becoming more and more of a cash cow. The only medium that shows creativity and impressive is their Netflix, but I think that's solely due to Netflix. I'd rather Both companies have more diverse shoes with already established characters like raven, zatanna, static shock etc. I really worry on the direction Marvel is going now, while I think DC will be ok.
Thor is not a title its a name. There are characters like Captain America, Superman. Storm and Beta Ray Bill who have wielded thor's hammer and have not taken on the alleged title of Thor. X23 being wolverine is downright stupid.
first, you Rock. second, I love X23! I feel her becoming the new Wolverine is a great continuation of her story. I would love to see a video on her relationship with the Old Man Logan Wolverine.
I loved X Men Evolution. I grew up with it, it created an interest in me for the X Men, and the storytelling was somewhat adult which I greatly enjoyed. I believe that if and when Marvel regains the rights to the Fantastic 4 and X Men that they should have an approach to the X-Men mythos such as that
Logan can stay dead. Laura's awesome.
Fuck off furfag, we had both.
Why can't we just have both
I love both.
was logan to alpha for your twilight tweener view?
Wow, I love this last one.. Assuming I'm a tweener twilight fan, just 'cause I like a bit of gender diversity. I'm a 39 year old Canadian guy. for your information. I liked classic Logan just fine, but let him rest in peace. We can have Old Man Logan and New Wolverine.
x23 is an amazing character i miss logan but she deserves to be wolverine
I love X-23 :D So even if Old Wolverine comes back, I want Laura to keep having her own ongoing comic.
I like X-23 as the new Wolverine.
I've been enjoying X-23 as Wolverine, and I really dig that they brought in Old Man Logan as the "replacement" for the dead Wolverine. It works for me to the point that I do not miss the younger version of Wolverine.
I loved X-23 most in X-Force. The art was so awesome and I loved seeing her let loose with her ferocity and tear into the Purifiers. I'm not a huge fan of her taking on the mantle of Wolverine as I think she was more interesting when she was her own character. Still it's fun seeing her relationship with Angel for the time being.
Laura Kinney is one of my favourite marvel superheroes/X-men characters. I think her all-new wolverine run is brilliant and her craig kyle/Christopher vost runs are my all time favourite comic book stories. Her new x-23 series is good but I didn't like how they renamed her x23 after tom taylor made her reject that name since it was "a letter and a number" and was her slave name. Her clone, Honey Badger is probably the cutest x man character of all time and love how they incorporate both of them in x men red and other x men titles.
I like X-23 as Wolverine, I like the classic Wolverine, but Old Man Logan in the main continuity just doesn't make sens...
I really like your longer vids, keep up the great job man. thanks for what you do.
i dony mind x-23 but im such of fan of older comics because there stories were all amazing i say make room for both just make the new players have there own momments i feel some people miss the dark side of the old wolverine but darken goes to far maybe maybe work this into the story were wolverine is some how messed up in the head again?
Simply awesome. I always enjoy the videos on your channel immensely. As always, well done Sir.
I don't now who came up with "all new all different" but it sound very stupid, almost like a parody.
It's like "Amazing" "Astonishing" "Spectacular". They are simply running out of those :p
It isn't even true. Giving other superheroes the superhero mantles, doesn't make it new and different. Laura even has almost the same powers as Wolverine for example.
Because generations don't pass down from one to the next??
Crap.. why is there a Supergirl than????
Do you realize just how creatively confined and one dimensional and boring the comic book universe would be, if people imposed such notions, and limitations just for the sake of them, while failing to realize you're suppose to translate and relate these stories to real life, the source of their inspirations?
Hence relatability leading to fanship?
Further more.. Wolverine was, for the most part ENGINEERED, alongside Captain America, Sabretooth, Deadpool and Fantomex...
why would an established clandestined organizations specializing in eugenics and biowarfare drop such lucrative project, with multple results, because.... unseen specators may go... "Boring! She's just a girly copy!!"
Can you imagine your disembodied voice echoing over these fictional characters from a different dimension?
Cause that seems to be your expectations heh.
P.D. S They don't need to depower, kill or retire the superheroes. If superhero comics should do something new, then they should make new superheroes without doing something to the old ones. That's the problem. Supergirl didn't change Superman.
Okay... you're safety blankets can never die.
Like Sherlock Holmes, Han Solo or King Arthur..
Modern men are really big homostatsis suck faces.
Fantastic... fan of your explanation series, you really tie all of this together well.
Having just seen Logan, I can see the possibilities for X-23 in the future.
i am enjoying the new comics so far , i really dont care about the drama fan boys get in to
I like her old and new stuff #truefan
I don't think that they're fanboys for wanting something original.
Munzur Baba HUH! did know that the definition of something original got changed to more of the same of wolverine fighting toad and magneto and the same old high school peter parker . BTW originality is dead , every one has done every thing , get over it!
himura kenshiro Killing superheroes just so other superheroes are getting new fame isn't original. Writers always changed superheroes a little, but they changed the concept like Marvel is doing now. I like Wolverine because of his character, not because of what he does. X-23 does the same shit, but I like Logan. Marvel should make new superheroes without killing, depowering or retiring the classic ones.
This sucks because:
1. Superheroes we like aren't around.
2. It is really lazy.
I don't get over such shitty things.
Munzur Baba 1 thats nice and hey there is another Logan now so its not like you have to say good bye to him , 2 x-23 was already her own character , all they did was change her name and role in the X men 3 its comics , super heroes dont stay dead or "replaced" and the events have actually resulted in some nice stories . superior spidermen , miles morales and Captain Sam have actually resulted in some good stories and even though Peter parker is back and so it steve , i still hope to see more of sam , miles and doc oct . also and lastly comic books are getting older , the world is getting older and so even whit Frank time diluting powers , Logan and all the other characters are going to grow older so its only natural for there characters to develop and change over time . anime and other forms of media do it all the time , hell there are alot of DBZ fans that where actually hoping for DBS to focus on Gohan the same way the next naruto series will focus on Boruto or how JoJo bizarre adventures gets a brand new Joster family member every generation to be the Lead in that series .
it was only natural that a genius like peter parker would turn in to the next tony stark over time and whit those changes come the change to his placement in the world but now we have fans crying over not having a street level spidermen , in comes miles . and its not like Marvel is not the only one , look at how many robins we have had . but marvel fans are always the most vocal in there uproar , I WONDER WHY!!!
X-23 was one of the characters that brought new life to Wolverine and helped bring more substance to Logan. In fact she was the reason I started reading X-Men once again. I quite love the direction they are taking with her, although she still needs more development and stories in order to fill in the big shoes of her father. If we get to see something with the same magnitude as Old Man Logan written for her, that would completely solidify her presence in the X-Men series and will bring more Marvel fans to the publications about mutants.
I hate the very idea of her being wolverine. Marvel needs to stop making every character a title that can allow any character to carry as some kind of mantle. I think Marvel needs to go back to their roots and show why people love these characters so much then just make new characters take on these heroes. Yes, some legacy heroes work i.e. Miles, Jaime Reyes, Terry Mcguiness. But you can't give every hero a legacy character. It just doesn't work. You can't resolve poor comic book sales by just making a legacy character for said hero. Maybe the reason DC is beating Marvel in comic book sales is because they actually care about their heroes and why they are so important. I hope the people on the other side of the argument have more nuance to the argument than just saying. "Well you just don't like change."or " You're just a bigot."
No, not every character should have a mantle, that's right. The original characters have to die sometime though, and they can just die there or risk them going stale with repetitive stories.
You had me until you brought up DC. I hate the way DC uses their characters as a brand... the bat Family, Super man/girl/boy, AquaMan/Lad... how many different Flashes and Green Lanterns? Marvel does it a bit too, with all the Spiderman/pig/IronSpider/CrimsonSpider...
My main gripe with Marvel is the womanization of all the heroes... I'm just waiting for Cyclopsette, or Colossus Girl... Beast will get a cadre of Beast Babes to mob around with him...Have they done Ice Woman yet? Or female Nightcrawler?
This whole era of comics feels like a giant 'What If' comic... What if all heroes were women? Such a lack of creativity!
i agree with Gavin. marvel has a history of fuck ups and too many crossovers and too many characters leading to some stupid ass series. House of M being one of them.
I may not like DC directions at times, but at least they have their shit together when it comes to the comics. I like they have brands for their characters instead of just putting everyone on one team and having people refer to that one team instead of that individual character (avengers)
thats marvel for you
DC is beating Marvel (for the first time in years) because they recently relaunched their whole brand......again. Big events and reboots always boost sales.
Hey Rob, I watch your videos very often to understand characters and storylines better if I have or have not read them. I do have one minor suggestion. On videos like this would it be possible to add issue titles and numbers on the description so those interested in reading the comics and story arcs know where to look and read the comics leading up to those events?
Who here is here after Logan?
Two fun facts for comic book fans wanting to know about Laura's ANAD marvel storyline. The name of the wolverine pet mentioned here was called Jonathan. The second would be the moment when a bunch of average house robbers tried to rob laura's/logan's apartment. Hilarity ensues when they realized that walked into an apartment of wolverines.
Reference if needed - www.weirdsciencedccomics.com/2016/07/all-new-wolverine-10-review-and-spoilers.html
Hope people get as outraged about this as they do when it's a black character put in place of their established heroes🙄
not really. your logic may be true to some but I see it like this: pop characters are whole. I would hate a remake of the fresh prince of bellair with white people. So it's not about races but what a whole popular icon means for people.
imagine if they turned a black character white lol.
If black panther were changed to be white, you'd be so pissed off.
+PotatoTheQuick lol I would. but I mean it's upsetting when they changes years of publication history like making iceman gay out of nowhere or etc.
Black Panther's race is actually relevant to his character.
Always like your videos. Nice in depth info. Keep up the great work.
Has X-23 met old man Logan yet?
Yes she has.
and?
she is not super fond of him but slowly accepted him. As Logan. He on the other hand doesn't want to be wolverine anymore and is glad she took his mantle.
she is not super fond of him but slowly accepted him. As Logan. He on the other hand doesn't want to be wolverine anymore and is glad she took his mantle.
she is not super fond of him but slowly accepted him. As Logan. He on the other hand doesn't want to be wolverine anymore and is glad she took his mantle.
I was never a fan of the original Wolverine's character, so I've enjoyed the little I've read of X-23 and find that she's a good replacement. I'm in love with Lemire's run on Old Man Logan though.
Hey, I've got a great idea! Let's make Mickey Mouse a lesbian female hamster! And Donald Duck could be a black squirrel, also female! That will make the Disney lineup much more politically correct!
The only joke is that companies actually have to do this .
don't give them ideas lol
Please give me more of your tears. They're delicious.
Please don't do that, why should they have to do it.
+DarkshadowXD63 Why, for the same reason they are having Marvel do it of course.
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"...which focuses on Teenage Mutant-"
me: NINJA TURTLES!
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huh, that's engrained in my psyche...
Why on earth would you turn already established male character titles to females........make something new for gods sakes....... this is pretty irritating and disgusting....... give X23 a new title.......not wolverine......
Because muh feminism! Female Thor! Female Black 15 year old Ironman! Female Wolverine!
Because they don't know how to create. Only how to destroy.
Go ahead, no one's stopping you.
Eh.....ya they r.....I cant write a new comic on X23s name...or on wolverines. ....it belongs to marvel
alan biju So how is that stopping you from coming up with ideas.
What ever idea I come up with is useless.......they r still gonna go with a fake wolverine...... what I can do is show that I and others hate this new concept
Like it, we love it!! Keep up the good work Rob.
Yes! I love x23 so much shes definitely in my top 3 most loved heroes/villains!
I truly love Laura as the new Wolverine. She's different than Logan and it's pretty cool to see her come into her own. The new storyline promises to be interesting. I love this character.
Thanks a lot for this video! I finally understood what the full story behind X23 is.
X-23 taking up the the mantle is only one of two "passing-of-the torch" moves that make sense to me. The other is Sam Wilson taking up Captain America's. Both make sense when you consider their respective narratives. Both Sam and X-23 have profound respect for their mentors, so of course they'd take up the monikers. X-23's new story as The Wolverine is my favorite one so far.
I love X-23. She was the reason I got into comics so I'd always read anything with her in it. I like her being Wolverine I hope her comic doesn't get cancelled by bs cross over event.
I love x-23 as Wolverine she's so awesome and badass and a great successor to Logan
I like the character X-23, as a newer character and a spin-off to the Wolverine, I think she has become her own. That being said, I grew up on Logan, and cannot wait for his eventual return.
Laura is great! I think her taking the Wolverine mantle was handled very well. Seems like a natural progression.
I actually really like X23, and personally I really want to see her within the next Wolverine movie since Hugh Jackman is going to stop playing the role as Wolverine pretty soon. Would be nice to have her continue on as Wolverine in the movies rather than try to find a Hugh Jackman replacement.
Me too, I just hope they do a good job. First Classes' Emma Frost was a shadow of her comic self, and Apocolypse' Mystique is In Name Only.
really loving this new way the videos feel you seem to be enjoying making them and it comes out in the final product #Robcorps
great video i stopped reading X-Men shortly after 2001 so this helpful to bring me up to date
every time I heard him say "teenage mutant" my brain filled in "ninja turtles" 😂😂
So I'm a new fan and actually watched your innocence lost before seeing this video. The massive contrast between you now and this video is actually alarming. I love both versions of how you explain the comics, but I prefer new you lol. New you actually convinced me to go watch Logan the day it came out. New you makes me want to binge watch x men evolution just to relive my love for the show. Anyways good work as always
I love x-23 but I also liked Wild Thing and Draken. The ideas are very cool. Laura is an interesting character but one wonders if there are personalitly traits that would have shown up that the writers didn't show. Thank you for sharing!
This reminds me of harley quinn. They started off as tv characters to fan favorites
my favorite Marvel book right now.great video
5:51 Take it to the bank, boys. Thats plush-like Bart.
I think the X-23 character has an awesome backstory. Going forward, she should be the "Wolverine" character.
I actually really liked the NYX series. I would love to learn more about what happened to Kiden
Laura (X-23) really does a good job of coming off as her own character. I really enjoyed my read of her origin series. She’s easily one of my favourite characters in Marvel because even though she’s a clone of Wolverine she’s not a clone of Wolverine.
I like X23, I can see some mad potential with her. They just need someone that is going to commit and be consistent with her stories and character..
Excellent review, thanks man!
I think X-23 is a really good character, and she seems like a really good character to be the new wolverine who I hope isn't "revived" in some stupid way. If the writers do decide to bring the classic wolverine back, hopefully they will wait a year or few so X-23 gets the spotlight.
Love X-23 since the X-Men evolution days! I definitely ship "Laur-angel"! And I think they definitely need to start boarding a series or movie on her ASAP. She's too interesting to not delve into.
Awesome channel man
Excellent video and explanation of X23.
I like what you are doing with these stories!!! Please keep this going!!! As for X 23 I like her and somewhat like what they are doing with her in the books she is in... I don't see why we can not bring the OG Logan back and still keep X 23 around with her on going books... I think it would be great if they have X 23 and old man Logan team up and by the end of the story have the OG Logan show up, save the two of them and all 3 of them end up taking on the big bad for this arc...
I much prefer the idea of Laura taking up Logan's alias versus Daken doing it. But, until more All New All Different comes out and we see how they build on her as Wolverine I can't say if I prefer her or Logan in the role. What I can say though, is that she is an amazing character that has had a great run of luck with having amazing writers that developed her into a character we love. I can only hope her run with greatness continues and she grows more and more and doesn't get misused or tossed to the wayside.
love your work man! x23 is cool. definitely miss logan though.
I think X-23 is an awesome character and definitely fits the title of Wolverine. I think her background brings back the pain and drama that Logan use to have under his initial time on Uncanny X-Men.
I just feel like Old Man Logan is not the version of Logan we need around mentoring Laura. I think there should be a way to bring back the 616 Logan and have him claim the title of Weapon X. I also think that Logan himself needs a new struggle because Old Man Logan is not compelling enough for a long term character.