Does Mixing Matter | Jack Stratton Mixing Masterclass
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- Preview of the first 10 minutes from the Jack Stratton Mixing Masterclass.
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Jack is so right, we really should be mixing for underwater.
and also taping to water a la Dethklok. this is the future.
The next "must-mix-for" format.
I find that underwater needs less bass because the bone conducting headphones will vibrate on your head with too much bass.
Specific mixing techniques will need to be explored for each type of environment: hot tub, normal pool, saltwater pool, polar plunge, ocean, jello pool.
God Lives Underwater.
Jack you are so eloquently spoken without being overbearing or condescending. I could listen to you talk about your passions for hours.
Jack Stratton talk radio is all I want
He does stutter a bit tho
Vulf podcast?
Vulfcast
That is so well put
I did not expect this to become a speedo commercial half-way through.
Jack's a product kind of guy.
“I’m no Rick Ruben up here telling you I don’t know how to do anything” 😂😂😂
"might like vulfpeck" may be an understatement for most of us.
The Chic mix is better in a lot of ways, but the released mix has a bit less going on and pushes Diana's voice to the front, making it sound more like a radio hit as opposed to sounding like it has backing singers taking the lead like you hear on a lot of disco music.
The bass is also a little louder in the motown mix and has less to compete with, which nice for a dance track. Those vocals on the Chic mix though...they sound absolutely fantastic. Diana and the backup vocalist really sound like a tight, cohesive unit. It's cool to see two very different visions for the mix and how they both can work.
Ross also just said it sounded too much like Chic for her which is difficult to argue with 😅
@@idontwantahandle852 And they solved the issue in a pretty masterful way without the song losing it's energy
I honestly prefer the Motown mix to the Chic mix. Sounds more "live" and direct with the louder bass. The Chic mix sounded a little too smooth to my ears. But that's to each their own.
Yeah, I found the Chic mix too busy and dense. The Motown mix seemed to get to the heart of the song better.
Let's be fair here; the Tiny Desk mixes are some of the best live recordings in the game!
This pop music snubber became a Carly Rae Jepsen fan thx to Tiny Desk 🙈🤷🍻
I don't agree. The mix sounds clear, but the usage of shotgun microphone makes it cold as hell. Cruel lack of basses in voices, due to small diaphragm microphones.
@@UlysseMusicien might just be the choice of shotgun... plenty of other shotguns exhibit more low end. I've used an NTG3 as a vocal mic (3-6 inches from the singer) with good results before. Not nearly as thin as the Sehnieser
@@UlysseMusicien. I appreciate your perspective, but "cold as hell" is an exaggeration. Clarity trumps all, and Tiny Desk is head and shoulders above the sound of!musical guests on Saturday Night Live and late night talk shows. The Tedeschi Trucks Band Tiny Desk performance is one for the ages. Josh Rogosin for president 2024! "You'll like the sound of him."
who mixes them? I agree the Chic one in Particular🤣
not only has jack honed his craft as a mixer but as a comedian as well. so much good humour in here
Should watch his video on how to ruin a picture in photoshop, his humor has been streets ahead for a long time
The Rick Rubin joke about knowing nothing made me actually laugh out loud
Jack - I'd been frustrated for a while, convincing myself I'd never get "the 70s sound" recording direct to digital. You learned how to do just that over many years and shared it with us over 5 hours - THANK YOU! I still can't do it, but you've proved that it is possible. I'll keep trying knowing that it can be done.
Obviously it helps to have world class instrumentalists and singers, but I am confident there are FAR more great musicians than there are great engineers. If these great musicians can become even minimally competent at mixing, so much more great music will reach us.
I appreciate goodhertz a lot as well. I can't say if their software sounds better than anyone else's, but their interfaces are so intuitive while hardware reproduction interfaces are quite arcane.
many thanks!!
From a not-quite-there-on-the-underwater-level amateur mixer with his home studio, this changed the questions i ask myself mixing. Thank you Master Jack.
Saving up for this class.
I'm Coming Up - mix comparison
1:38 - Motown Mix
3:00 - Chic Mix
Really different when you can switch between the two quickly. Chic mix is more 'crispy', guitars-forward. Motown mix is mellow and soulful, more 'mid'. Both are superb!
Thanks for this! So wild - you’re right it’s the Voice Vs the Band. And it’s the Motown mix that lets her voice shine more than than the upbeat Disco version! What a great comparison! Thanks as always Jack 🤘🤘
What I take from this is that there's more than one possible great mix for every song. I personally preferred the original mix because it sounds less cluttered and busy. But the Bob Clearmountain mix was still amazing in its own way.
I think we have in our heads that there's a platonic ideal of the "perfect mix" for every song. But except in rare circumstances, we can't know whether one mix will result in a bigger hit than another. And even if we did know, that doesn't mean there's not a third possible mix that would be even better. Ultimately, it's very subjective. Songs catch on or don't for so many reasons beyond the mix. There's the timing of the release, the marketing, whether the songs are promoted by a certain radio station or make a certain Spotify playlist, whether a song is used in a movie or a commercial, etc. Just because a song doesn't do well wouldn't prove it's mixed badly.
While there are certainly some mixes that we could safely say are "bad," beyond a certain level of quality it's all about personal preference.
The thing is that when you're really suck in mixing you're so unsure in what are you doing that you can't even say if it's above "bad" or not...
I think the most important thing is, as Jack mentions, the joy in the performance. Vulfpeck has obviously mastered that, and I think that was the secret of the Beatles....the excitement and joy that is the essential power of music.
The Bob Clearmountain mix has more high end on guitars, More guitars, and I can hear the horns compared to the first mix that was released. So good.
The horns made the biggest difference to me. I'm a sucker for them horns.
@@ross302ciI absolutely loved how they had a sort of wave swelling and crashing on the beach sort of flow
Mixing is like lettering in comics, everything and nothing. Very humbling. love listening to your thoughts & choices for example music. Found a lot of good music from your educational vids.
That is a great analogy. Jack must not be in to comics or he'd have made that analogy.
Very true. A friend of mine made a comic album and sent his drafts to me in the process. The font he’d initially chosen was just not working and I almost couldn’t finish reading it, because the look of the whole thing was just off😂
I will never get into mixing, but holy cow! I want to take this course because Jack Stratton is mesmerizing. Watching him geek out about his passions is the best.
If Jack had a piano master class with both Goss and Jack, I would go out of my way to pay for that! Vulf is Supreme🙌🏻
Oh dude. I never knew I needed that, but now I do.
I absolutely love Rubber Soul. I'm obsessed. I'm actually trying to write another Rubber Soul. 14 songs, 7 a side. Brian Wilson heard it and was inspired to write Pet Sounds. That was the effect the album had. Peak John Lennon. Peak.
I can truly never tell is Jack is being sincere or sarcastic.
He definitely is
Dude if this is what the whole course is, I'm in. Fun to hear you wax on classic mixes.
If you got joy in the performance and you can hear everything, you're good. Wisdom.
Jack, I have to say that you have a fantastic understanding of the craft, and your insight is helpful as someone who enjoys making music. Your work is greatly appreciated to the hobby.
So brilliant and clear and illuminating. Thank you Jack. Can’t afford the class right now but hopefully soon.
Wow. Simple yet profound.
This masterclass is so worth it. I just finished it a few nights ago and Jack nailed it. Well spoken, concise, and jam packed with pretty practical info. I haven't ever mixed but I'm so excited to give it a try after having watched through the full course.
Does he show stuff he does in the DAW or does he just talk to the camera?
@@oinkooink oh he shows you pretty much as much as he can on the DAW. It's pretty incredible really how many tricks he reveals
@@rocoman1006 Thanks. Would love to see it and would spend the money. But streaming only is like renting. Couple of hundred bucks, I'd want to have the product as a download to watch offline etc.
@@rocoman1006 siiiiiiiiick. I'm now really stoked to sink into this Saturday while flying. Perfect way to pass the time! I feel like I'll have logic opened on the side, pausing and constantly throwing together mixing chains for later lol
Does he go over any mix bus processing? Saturation? What plugins does he get into?
That was compelling. I had no plans to learn about mixing before this video. I'm on the fence about taking this class for the simple fact that it's interesting as hell.
so fun Jack! I'm on my 10,000th+ mix and i still have no idea what the hell is going on :)
i just wanna say i love your mixes on cory's records :)
I’d watch this masterclass just to see what jack is listening to
It's funny to hear this with the mention of the minimalistic tiny desk approach when chic did a tiny desk recently, and played a great version of I'm coming out in it - I didn't really know the song but it's been in my head a lot recently.
this is gold material, thank u so much for making this video and sharing this powerfull data for producers and mixers. i love u
This is fantastic
The answer to every question in the intro is YES. And you definitely have a sound, which is really good, warm, balanced and you push the loudness just enough to fit every track (i may be wrong but i've noticed it).
Jack's mix on the MSG album is insane...❤
And it's amazing that he talks about the process that goes into mixing and mastering.
Would love to hear more about the Vulf compressor
Caleb Parker mixed the MSG album.
@@JohnSummerford Certified mix engineer moment
Yeah that was such a great live mix. You feel like you're there in the room. I wish I was there in the room. The video is as close as I'll ever get I think.
There's a great video Jack did called The Story Behind Vulf Compressor if you haven't seen that
always love a good camera angle switch. rubber soul was my fourth grade teacher's favorite beatles album. idk how much she swam, but she sure was wise 🤍🤍
Man, what a case-study. Can’t agree more about the drums in a mix. They can really make or break it
This video is gold!!
What an interesting video. Thank you for sharing! I hope someday I can buy this.
Hi from Germany. We had the AFN radio and they were playing at the end of the 70ies a lot of Chic stuff. The shit was banging out of the mono speaker of the VW Beatle of my sister. It was over compressed by the Radio station , but the stuff was banging. I had a nice Funk Band in the late 90ies and we were recording some songs and I want the engineers to make it sound like my childhood reflection of the chic sound. The totally failed. I thought I was wrong. Than I heard a few years ago the first Vulf productions and your guys sounded like this sound memories. Thank you sound is important because it emphasizes certain aspects of the music.
Jack Stratton is an epic legend.
I wish you could bring the Vulf to Sweden some day.
And yes, you should be featured in movies /series.
I had T-racks 3 deluxe for mastering once. It blew my head off.
Omg.
Bravo commentary,with a slice of the esoteric
I love how contradictory he is in this video, because as someone who started mixing last year, it feels so much like that is the true nature of mixing haha
This is a fantastic video. Thanks for the insight!
Daptone Records algorithm pushed me to your channel. I remember the old stomping grounds. Happy to see your talent unfolding, Jack!
Jack, my boys have recorded songs in the basement and i'm mixing them upstairs. They think i know what i'm doing. haha. very excited for this series!
"I'm screaming..." again :), he said it also in his piano tutorial for the song Funkier, same situation
And both times he talked the same volume after he took them off 😂
These audio engineering philosophy videos are GOLD. thanks Jack!
This is the most serious I've heard you speak! Nicely done.
love the new intro!!!
Props on the commitment to keeping a light footprint
Jack, can you go more in depth on the sleepify mixing process. Was it all done on tape?
How many tracks were you running?
it was mixed for underwater 😆
Great point, it's contrasts that make things interesting
Jack could just as well have become a professional poet. I love his use - and playing with - words.
It's all ambivalent, I found those dualities and dichotomies 20 years ago in almost everything. It's crazy, but that's how nearly everything in life and death works. The power of dialectics as well. Well done, Jack.
yin yang, my friend.
Thank you for the insight, professor
i'm so happy you're taking something seriously.
thank you jack
Jack Harrison vulf intros!? Lets go
I actually just purchased the daptone (Gabe Roth) board. It needs some work, and will it make me sound like Charles Bradley no. But it will make me make records the way they did kind of (except w/o tape) lotta folks are too used to just making sounds on there DAW. Amp sims are great. Sunset sound reverb is cool. But try throwing a mic in your hallway bathroom and compress it. I find it the most fun and unique is making the sounds organically as I can. Records sound too perfect these days. Way to go Jack. This looks fun.
@9:25 very brilliant and on the nose. its all about drums. think when dilla dropped donuts..
i needed to hear this so bad! and then it also comes from a vulf member ;_; thank u!!!!
I wonder what the odds are that legal pad is actually blank… love this guy
You're a cool and cogent guy. This is brilliantly done.
this is great, more people should know about the Daptone process
The inability of holding opposing views simultaneously is a symptom of this age we live in. Thank you for being ambiguous, as it's the only honest way to be.
Speedo: a trusted name in audio engineering since 1914
New bump is gorgeous
7:46 ‘I’m no guru over here, I’m no rick Rubin with a beard telling you: “I don’t know how to do anything”’ 😂 nice
Ive watched this 3 times and it keeps getting better. Seminal video
Bicameral Thinking approach to Mixing. Well Put.
Had no idea dude could be serious. Really enjoyed it.
When the mix hits the ears of a listener, the duality collapses into either a thumps up |1> or a thumps down |0>.
thank you :D
Thanks Jack
Very interesting, if I get back into mixing is gonna be thanks to this video.
What model are those swimming headphones? I've been looking at bone conduction headphones for a while but I'm worried to get something not worth their money
Will you be showing off what your mixing looks like in a DAW during the course?
Thank you rebbe
you had me at immutable ledger
That is one of the deepest answers I've ever heard to that question. Technical? Yes. Philosophical? Yes? Artsy? Yes. Edgelord? Yes. Relaxed? Yes (until the screaming part).
Jack is a genius and also a crazy person
great shit maestro, ty ty ty 🐻🎶❤
What brand is that bone conduction earphone you use? Ima try the speedo underwater thing ahaha seems rad
I am looking forward to Jack getting older and older. His mannerisms will only become stronger and so much more appropriate. He is an old man in a young mans body. I very much liked the video by the way.
Great mixing advice aside this is a really nice color grade
Such humility from the prince of madness himself
How long you been using Luna? We just did a whole record with it and it was quite fun
The released mix has a clearer rhythm and groove and I feel way more locked into it personally
only when making scrambled eggs
What lavalier mic is this on Jack? Sounds and looks brilliant.
Serious mixing question here. I am looking to buy the Shockz bone conduction headphones to swim with and take my mixing to the next level since my last waterproof headphones died in the pool. The Shockz site says they are waterproof, but not intended for swimming. Are you just living on the edge, or did they make you a custom pair?
Interresting the first mix sounds like steely dan.
That Rick Rubin skit was on point.
Are you going to go over any mix bus processing at all in the course?
"I'm screaming" - Jack Stratton
I never could've possibly ever imagined that I would see Jack Stratton wearing mirrored Vanquishers
This guy is a legend.
mom sends me Chex mix and I love her for it
Good stuff
Very informative but also a little bit hilarious.
Ultimately it all comes down to the compression