The 10 Shadows Guide to Taming Mahoraga
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- The Trump Card of the Ten Shadows cursed technique inherited by the Zenin Clan. Megumi Fushiguro has been known to call upon the sacred treasure known as Eight Sword Handle Sila Divine General Mahoraga. We have seen now Sukuna vs Mahoraga as well as Gojo vs Mahoraga , and both times the shikigami performed well using its ability of adaptation from its Dharmachakra Wheel. After seeing its full power in Gojo vs Sukuna, how would a 10 shadows user actually tame mahoraga? Let's find out!
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Step1: Summon the ox
Step2: Let it run on a treadmill for 20 hours straight
Step3: Summon Mahoraga
Step4: Boom, Mahoraga tamed
Step 1:Megumi summons Maharoga
Step 2:Togi/Maki beats its ass
Step 3:Profit.....
Low-key if you think about it Toji having ah child with the Ten Shadows Technique is kinda interesting when you think of it.
That's what I was thinking
@@malumkishin8608 Toji or Maki won't be able to kill Mahoraga. Their raw power is definitely not higher than 15 fingers Sukuna, blunt and sharp forces would also be easily adapted.
@@malumkishin8608also megumi has to be the one to beat it without outside help like when sukuna beat
Shit i just made this comment but said race course lol.
Step1: Tell Gojo your plan(has to agree)
Step2: Summon Ox
Step3: Target Gojo with the Ox (Limitless activated)
Step4: Wait 2 weeks for it's utmost powerful speed
Step5: Summon Mahoraga
I think Ox just gets stopped when touching the limitless, it doesn't actually keep running forever.
@@ByzantineRefugeefrom what I know, limitless doesn’t affect anyone whatsoever directly. Like, if a bullet was shot at gojo it would keep travelling at the same speed. The bullet isn’t interacted with at all it’s just that the bullet has to go through more space (limitless) than it otherwise would have. The bull would still be travelling, I think, it just would have looked like it stopped because it has an infinite amount of distance to get to gojo. Just because it’s not making progress doesn’t mean it’s not crossing a great distance though.
Could be wrong though. Gojos powers are confusing as fuck lol
@@joshuadrinkwater4391from how it was explained in the anime, the closer something gets to a limitless user, the slower they move
Edit: Ok so I read the manga and I think a can explain it more simply now. Basically, in math, no matter how many times you divide a number, it can never reach zero, so you can think of infinity as making Gojo the point zero and the process of moving towards him dividing, therefore making it impossible to fully reach him, and when he strengthens infinity, he just make the area that is considered “zero” larger. I know that was long winded, but hope it helps!
@@AberrantKoala The person isn’t interacted with directly but it is debatable if this would count for the bulls purpose of moving. Right, they didn’t really have time to explain it fully in the anime from what I remember but from what Gege(the author) explained the limitless barrier works via Zenos paradox, with is basically that no matter how many times you divide a number it will never reach zero, and as such that any moving object must therefore never be able to move from one meter to 0 meters because of this. It isn’t actually a paradox, things are perfectly capable of moving a meter, but limitless works like this. It takes n amount of distance and divides it infinitely: such that an attack moving at it may get past 99.9% of the barrier, but it doesn’t matter because it still has an infinite amount of .99999999…%s left, it will never reach a hundred percent because you can always add another 9.
You had had someone else helping with the ritual, that nulifies it.
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I like the Heavenly Restriction theory simply due its symbolism for the story. The Zenin have always treated their members lacking cursed energy as nothing but trash so it would be cosmic levels irony that all this the thing that's been holding the, back is exactly that arrogant mindset.
Considering Mahoraga's wheel implies "Harmony" which leads to him "Adapting" to adversity..... LOL
If Gege lets us have one good thing it would be Megumi surviving JJK and having Maki help him tame Mahoraga (SPOILERS) I'm not sure if Mahoraga's death at the hands of Gojo count for Megumi not being able to summon him.
no obviously not@@ItchiestBum
What you do is summon mahoraga get him stuck in domain. Get bull charging. Now you get Mahoraga wet with elephant and than continue to shoot him with nue’s electricity and keep him occupied with totality wolf. Once Mahoraga starts to adapt it should be time. Now sacrifice nues and slam mahoraga with elephant. Finally while he tries to deal with Elephant cut his head with inverted spear of heaven now wrap him with Orochi and finish mahoraga with bull.
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I honestly think the 10 Shadows are pretty fair. With the two initial divine dogs you can take down the toad and rabbits. With dogs, toads and rabbits together taming Nue, Elephant and the snake is feasible. At that point you already have a honestly excellent technique. If you are greedy enough to want more, taming deer, tiger and bull is still possible. Mahoraga is a hidden, bonus boss for extra greedy users.
Just 3-4 types of shikigami already makes the technique clear of most others and even without Mahoraga it is leaps and bounds superior to say blood manipulation.
im curious if deer is hard to tame it doesnt seem to have any offesnive capabilities or perhpas megumi simply lacked the CE to summon it as max elephant drains a considerable amount of his reserves
@@urickmann7768 my take on this is that in order to tame it you must have access to RCT, otherwise you simply lack the capability to summon it. I guess you could see it as the RCT of the 10 shadows.
@@franconullo4228 i think that wouldnt make sense, its purpose is healing the user, so it doesnt make sense to have it only be available to those who can already heal. Megumi probably couldnt do enough damage to kill it before it healed itself.
@@franconullo4228I would think so too, but Megumi's Mahoraga could use his positive energy sword of extermination even though Megumi could not use RCT at all.
Megumi must not have tamed it because of some other reason.
We have not seen the deer do much offensively so it might actually be quite strong. Megumi has trouble summoning Max Elephant due to the CE it uses, so summoning deer may use too much CE, leaving him too exhausted to win. We also do not really know how good Madoka Deer's self regen is, so it might just out heal the damage applied to it.
The fact that you start with shadow manipulation and two shikigami already puts it above most techniques. Add onto that, the fact that you can personally use the shikigami's techniques (sukuna using piercing blood w water elephant) and create chimeras... OP af. Just imagine hundreds of rabbits that emit round deer's positive energy to one shot curses or heal allies.
Step 1: Let Ox out on one end of a field
Step 2: Quickly get to other side of the field
Step 3: Time the start of the ritual so that Ox kills Mahoraga without any time for Mahoraga to react
Step 4: Duck into the shadows while Ox slams Mahoraga
Enjoy.
Ox solos fiction
@@Galoricox is him fr.
Ox: Nah I'd win
Piercing Ox was the hero we actually needed 😏
How about guide on taming the bull first.
How to tame Mahoraga in half an A press:
1. Open Domain Expansion
2. Summon Orochi and make it form a loop, ouroborous-style
3. Summon Ox and LBJ (Linear Bull Joust) on the Orochi loop to start building up speed.
4. Repeat the process to form several other Parallel Oxcellerators (PO's)
5. Allign your PO's so that each Orochi releases the loop precisely timed so that each ox gets caught in another loop (when they all release simultaneously).
5. Wait for 12 hours to build up speed.
6. Summon Mahoraga at the center of PO deathtrap.
7. Profit
Can a DE even last that long?
Ox has to run in a straight line only
How does the defeat of Mahoraga affect Lebron James' legacy?
@@Poup_o7depends on how much cursed energy the user has
@@animequenchers But what constitutes a straight line? If Nanami can change his perception to affect the parameters of Ratio, then Megumi can definitely change his perception such that changes in elevation are counted as "straight" because the Ox doesn't turn.
What I don’t understand is why Megumi never asked Gojo to help him with a test run. You can summon each of the ten shadows as many times as you want to subjugate them; why not have Gojo protect Megumi and „fight“ the Shikigami until they have enough information, brainstorm how to beat the individual Shikigami and then let Megumi do it himself. If something goes wrong, have Gojo oneshot the Shikigami as an outsider and Megumi can try again. Rinse and Repeat until all of the 10 Shadows are under Megumis control
gojo wasnt sure himsellf
Yeah its a valid argument also maybe gojo wanted him to grow strong along but we dont know it for certain lets just say megumi didn't really Focused on getting stronger can5 blame him he is 15 lol one way megumi could tame mahoraga by himself would be killing each and every shikigam (he is just too attached to them) i think killing all the shikigami and creating a totality would be alone good enough to defeat mahoraga because there are atleast two elements water and electricity mix of bull and divine dog are good at strength but the key shikigami would be tiger also madoka deers rct is broken and its only weakness is its not offensive but a very vital support its so clear megumi gotta kill all shikigami himself to create totality this is where the sukunas quote comes in in order to grow stronger one shall burn everything around them to ground😅 😅😅😅"
Ig it’s a time thing. Keep in mind at this point in the story he’s essentially a sophomore in highschool
That makes a whole lot of logical sense, but not a lot of character sense, if you catch my drift. The problem is that Megumi was still learning his technique himself and was pretty early in his development. Gojo probably thought he had a lot more time with him to work him up to Mahoraga (which was obviously his plan because he told him about the mutual death match between their clans). Gojo was cocky and overconfident, and Megumi was insecure and unsure of himself so i don't think they would've done this plan in character unless they had some time and development first, which they never got unfortunately.
Would be fine besides Mahoraga, the dude known to have wiped someone exactly like Gojo
Idk how much sense it makes, but considering that when the shikigami die they are fused to the remaining shikigami I kind of assumed that perhaps if you'd fuse the 9 shikigami together and fight in combination in a 2v1 against Mahoraga you might ultimately defeat him, and the 10 shadows ultimate technique would be the all powerful fusion of all the 10 shadows at once.
The act of fusing doesnt kill them. He is just unable to use dead ones and can only fuse them once they are dead
I dont mean dying is a condition for fusing. I mean if it is already dead then it can only be summoned by fusion. Alive Shikigami can be summoned either way
@@claudedossantos3302 i have a question, if they are all fused when alive, and that fusion dies, do they all die? or is the shikigami used as a base the only one to die?
@@rockargen9591we still have no idea
@@rockargen9591I’m pretty sure the permadeath is only a risk when summoning multiple so just having 1 out would be of no risk
@@rockargen9591 when it comes to that im not sure. We will have to wait and see. Sukuna fused all the others into the other huge shikigami that died so now we gotta see if they can be summoned
a lot of people have come up with the ox way of taming mahoraga, this is my take.
step 1: make gojo call the authorities to bribe someone to close the shinkanzen(japanese bullet train line) for a decent amount of time.
step 2: summon the ox in one end
step 3: summon mahoraga the moment the ox arrives at the tokio station
step 4: profit
Can't you just use treadmill?
Couldn't you also just go into the wild without all of that suspicious activity
@@zk-vd6uy I don't think there are any treadmills that could keep up. Could just make one though
@@loloman0 reinforce it with cursed energy
@@loloman0 just make a big ass hamster wheel with a door that can pop open when you need ta fire the ox.
The way I see it, for regular Ten Shadows user to tame Mahoraga. They would need to take the Sukuna approach, make Agito to fight and stall Mahoraga then use the remaining shikigami to one shot Mahoraga like Piercing Ox or Max Elephant
Agito was all the rest.
@@danielcampbell2411 No, Agito was Nue, Mourning Tiger, Madoka Deer, Orochi and potentially Totality Demon Dog
Agito is a fodder, died to max blue.Maho is destroying it low-mid diff
@@Goatkuna236 You say that like most characters in jjk wouldn't die from max blue
@@xavierwalker6470 They wouldn't, jogo who is supposedly a glass canon ate entire red to the face and normal red has 2x the output of normal blue.
Accept the fact, Agito is a fodder.
Something I haven’t seen mentioned is that the next step in the tech is combining them like Sukuna did. Technically there would be an unlimited amount of possibilities, making adaptation impossible. Who knows maybe it’s possible to combined all the shikigami to make something that could overpower Mahoraga
i feel for fusing them compatibility may be a factor otherwise he wouldve stacked more shikigami on top of agito
It actually I did the math on the number of combinations Megumi could have if he had all 9 shikigami. Which is 511.
Here’s where it gets saucy: the combinations possible are actually 9 factorial, i don’t see why you can’t combine all 9 together to make one shikigami, if we take that theory into account the equation would be 9! Which equals 362,880 combinations. Truly though the number of combinations is actually infinite. The amount of ways they can be mixed up is infinite. Think of Gojo’s tech which abuses imaginary numbers, there is an infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2. Thus, there is an infinite amount of parts the can be swapped around per whole shikigami. When you think about the technique in this way it makes a lot of sense on how it truly becomes a technique that rivals Gojo’s. It’s what makes it my favorite tech in the series because it allows the user to COOK some wild shit.
@@shanemagyar6799 I never thought of it like that way.
@@shanemagyar6799damn, you might be on to something
You see, the more i think about it, the more it makes sense. I think the 10 shadows use and the heavenly restricted person of the zenin family are supposed to work together to kill mahoraga. Cause if dragging someone into the ritual is similar to dragging someone into a domain, wouldnt people like maki and toji just be considered inanimate objects in the ritual? So them helping shouldnt nullify it.
Just watched the rest of the video and saw it was mentioned.
Also I think it’s also correlated with the divine dogs when one is ostracized within the clan while another is heralded as one of the best things to come out the clan to no ce to being insanely proficient in ce it just fits well
@@aidenharris5296thats what I’m sayin-
Also the ritual is like this super formal high stakes boss battle with only your skills, experience, and tools at your disposal and no outsider can interfere then Maki and Toji are like “fuck that lol” lets be honest in jjk there is no respect for the 1v1
@@aaronmendoza2010 you expected jumpjutsu Kaisen to not jump
Inverted spear of heaven v Mahoraga is so weird. It could just pop him if considering him a technique cuz he can only spawn from the 10 shadows.
True but I feel like this would just stop the ritual and not count as taming him
@@WatermelonMan6726 you can use cursed tools tho right? Just other people interfering nulls the ritual.
@khanareeb9725 They mean that the spear itself would null the ritual, not cursed tools specifically. For all we know, the ritual is part of the technique, so the spear could null that too alongside the summoning.
@@TunaHorns oh ur right. I didn't think of it like that. My bad bro.
@khanareeb9725 No problem, I can see how his first comment could be confusing because of the lack of explanation.
Heavenly restriction users can enter in domains and barriers as they want, assuming this applies to the summoning ritual, I think Toji and Megumi were supposed to take it down as a family effort.
that actually sounds interesting.
I dont thonk there is a barrier in the summoning ritual as Sukuna Entered it without being part of the ritual but The ritual will end if the People That take part in the ritual died
@@ryanjhongawat5643 the thing is that the subjugation won't work if someone helps.
@@ryanjhongawat5643 Well the main factor here is that, if somebody enters the ritual's radius from outside, or is within it during the start of the ritual, then even if Mahoraga is defeated it won't give the ten shadows user the ability to summon him, but assuming it works like other passive CT's and Domain Expansions, where they only target things that have some semblance of cursed energy, and things that don't can freely pass in and out, it's possible that Toji or fully realized Maki, who both have no cursed energy, can't be detected by the ritual when entering, and therefore if they had helped to kill Mahoraga, it wouldn't count as outside interference and Megumi would still gain Mahoraga.
@@Flamme-Sanabi But it simply won't know someone helped. For all intents and purposes, someone with a full Heavenly Restriction might as well be a rock in the field.
Rabbit escape can't perminantly die so I think the secret strength of 10 shadows would be if all but rabbit escape died and rabbit escape became an unkillable army of totality
That’s not in true databook it says their a bunny with a tattoo mark if that bunny gets destroyed all the rabbits will permanently be destroyed
Then don't summon it anywhere near them, or better yet, leave it in the shadow 💀
@@KO_DIMESsimple stuff
Step one: Summon the bull on the other side of the country and order it to avance in your direction
Step two: Summon Mahoraga
Step three: Stall Mahoraga
Step four: Once the bull gets close make sure to align Mahoraga
Step five: Watch as Mahoraga is one shot by a bull who charged for thousands of kilometers
My have the bull run across a country method is spreading, goood lol 😂
@@TheEternalFlame57Good to know I wasn’t the only one who thought about that, the Ten Shadow users must be quite dumb to have never tried this
@@guilha1506Agreed! Like the fact they never tried this is surprising lol
@@Weebgamer236Mahoraga is not perceiving or surviving this bull after it runs kilometers
Why not have the bull just run for days in your shadow and then you can directly point it at mahoraga
1. Use Kirara's CT
2. Let the ox run for as long as Kirara can maintain her technique
3. Don't miss
Don't try to do this at home!!
But Kirara would be dragged into the ritual as well, that would render the ritual useless
Thanks I will try at home
Outside help. Just use the spear or black rope
If Inverted Spear of Heaven hit Mahoraga, the Ten Shadows technique would be forcefully deactivated and the ritual would be nullified, so the user wouldn't gain Mahoraga.
That would atleast be a good way to nullify the ritual incase mahoraga adapted
I dont think it would work like that because mahoraga himself isnt a technique hes a summoned shikigami. I think in order for isoh to work it would have to touch the actually shadow that they are being summoned from
@@ap_dreezy3019Even if it did, you could just hit the wheel. No more adapting for you
@albino478gaming5 but it doesn't nullify it forever
atleast it would still be worth holding in the bottomless pit as a way to back out of the fight if things arent working out so you can try again
Mahoraga is the final boss of the ten shadows technique. In order to tame him, you need to master every other technique in your arsenal. That means fusing all 9 other shikigami together, buffing the fusion with chimaera shadow garden, and using fused shikigami to deliver CSG’s auto-hit.
Luckily for the ten shadows user, you get as much prep time as you need. So I don’t think this would actually be as tough as you might think. Megumi would just need to combine every tool in his toolkit and launch a max damage attack.
"So I don’t think this would actually be as tough as you might think"
Literally no user in history has tamed Mahoraga. This includes everyone who tamed all other 9 shadows. The point of Mahoraga being so strong is exactly that the 10S user cannot tame it, they lack any tools to deal with it efficiently (outside of external cursed tools, but good luck finding a tool powerful enough), which acts as an inherent biding vow allowing Mahoraga to be as broken as it is.
@@ggwp638BC maybe. Most of the Zenins are really stupid though so I don’t know how to interpret “no user in history has tamed Mahoraga”
@@bwhit7919 Zenin aren't stupid, they are prideful, misogynistic, classist and so on, but credit where it's due, their sorcerers where top tier. They had a bunch of secret techniques and Naobito is a damn monster. Keep in mind, no other clean had multiple relevant sorcerers. Gojo only had Gojo, Kamo lives off past glory, everyone else if kinda irrelevant. And this is a low point for them, they had even more power in the past.
@@ggwp638BC Having gojo, is immeasurably better then all those other clans, well except megumi
Basically FF14 Black Mage gaming
I think the catch is supposed to be it is physically impossible for a 10S user to tame Mahoraga and that’s how he gets so strong through a kinda binding vow. However I do think Toji and Maki break this by having no cursed energy. And that’s why the Zenin family has the genetics for it. Either someone came up with that plan, but the plan was lost to time, or it is kinda naturally baked into the technique almost like the six eyes with the Gojo clan
There is also the chance for other combinations of shikigami to exist that we just haven’t seen yet / won’t see. Like a combination of Nue and Bull could maybe produce you a bull that doesn’t need the unlimited treadmill and can instead ramp up in strength by flying around (also getting a lightning charge to boot)
That is not one shooting mahoraga idk why ppl think these shikigami can one shot him😂only the ox and I say that cause it get stronger the more it runs so it's strength is unlimited or limited with how much time he runs like 1 hour to 24 or 1 day to 7 it gets stronger so that can one shot it but using others is crazy headcanon
@@pitoseavy4523 so the person was arguing for a fusion of the Ox and Nue...meaning it has the powers of both
@@pitoseavy4523your retarded and illiterate he said maybe you could fuse the bull and nue making it a stronger bull with more abilities
Honestly Max Elephant + Piercing Ox + Rabbit Escape+ Tranquil Deer is the best combo for AP in the Ten Shadows, ashame we don't see more forced merging of the Ten Shadows
Megumi taking notes.
Bro is suffering brain rot he aint taking notes anytime soon💀
@@Saucenoat It was only one UV that he actually was hit with. He's not braindead.
@@Saucenoathis soul was what got hit so maybe Megumi got a year's worth of knowledge on ce since his physical brain wasn't hit.
Broo don't read manga
I like that. Toji and Maki being undetected by Domains and Jujutsu in general, in theory they’ll be undetected by the taming ritual. Common No operator W
Hey man, thanks for this video. I learned that I inherited the ten shadows technique a couple years ago and have been hardstuck on Mahoraga for a couple of months now. Lost my childhood friend and a homie from highschool during our last attempt. But thanks to your guide I really think this next attempt will be the one. Appreciate you!
You are too funny for this world 😆
Hey man did you finally tame him or are you dead?
@@EggBeater410 days… yeah he’s dead
@@divingpebble8345 damn😔
My take on it is basically to create a further improved version of agito, agito has nue, serpent, madoka deer and mourning tiger integrated, so what happens when you integrate multiple shadows into piercing bull instead? Piercing rabbits? The possibilities are endless, but let's not forget that no ten shadows user had that "honored one" drive to defeat mahoraga, they probably pulled the same third rate tactics that megumi used, i think defeating mahoraga was simply the technique's "rite of passage" making sure that only selfish honored ones are worthy to be rewarded with more power by the universe, ones whose hunger is faster than even mahoraga's adaptation, the irony is that gege has that style of twisting set up expectations in an unsatisfactory way, by letting sukuna simply act as an anomaly that gets mahoraga by breaking the rules and using his own technique outside of ten shadows, or it could be that he had strong enough skills to actually pull of a win with only using ten shadows similar to how he fought against yorozu
Probably the latter, he himself had the adaptability to match anyone, even with 15F level of power
21:53; That's actually a cool idea and concept, the ritual wouldn't recognize the Heavenly Restriction user as a person but an object, like a cursed tool, and if cursed tools are allowed in subjugation.... man! You really cooked with that idea 😎
unfortunately the ritual won't recognize the heavenly restriction user as a cursed tool because cursed tools have CE but it gets really ambiguous when you try to count normal damage in the ritual. If Megumi can hurt Mahoraga with a normal kitchen knife, does Maki or Toji punching Mahoraga equal that? it would be easy to say the ritual checks who killed mahoraga by the cursed energy profile, but how would it check when normal damage belongs to someone in specific?
@@manthisjarisbroke9273you are correct they won’t be considered a cursed tool they would be considered an inanimate object. And why would they use “normal damage”? That can’t even hurt curses, you need curse to destroy curses. So all they have to do is use a cursed tool which is allowed. All that needs to be checked is if another person was involved in the ritual.
I think that the 10 Shadows Technique has everything you need to be able to defeat Mahoraga, but you need to be strong, skilled, and creative enough to kill it. You have 9 other creatures that all have unique attacks that Mahoraga can adapt to.
You gotta have sukuna level ce look how big nue is when he summon it
Step 1: Stab Mahoraga in the head with the Inverted Spear of Heaven or the Soul Splitting Katana. Alternatively, have the Bull run on a treadmill or in Gojo's Infinity, then point him at Mahoraga.
Step 2: Spend the next few weeks hitting Mahoraga with every type of damage that exists, including radiation ( send him into Chernobyl ), the Mariana Trench and Outer Space
Step 3: You are now the strongest being on Earth by virtue of having an unkillable minion
Unfortunately, the use of the Inverted Spear of Heaven won't allow you to tame Mahoraga.
Source: You made it the F up?@@austinmac2744
put the bull on a treadmill for days, then summon mahoraga, he's getting one shotted
The last point you make about a heavenly restricted person working with a 10 shadows user is really interesting, because if we assume every other heavenly restricted person has been shunned away from the Zenin clan just like Toji was, Megumi and Maki would mark the first time ever that the heavenly restriction and 10 shadows weren't enemies but instead allies, hope we see something happening with all this, great video bro
Like most people have said just use the bull. It has basically infinite attack power given long enough to charge.
How I'd approach it is by learning DE. Buy a treadmill and put Piercing bull on the treadmill for like a day or so. Summon Mahoraga and have the bull Ohko Mahoraga while it's still doing it's very eccentric entrance sequence.
See I wonder one part with this is if it takes cursed energy to keep Shikigami out since like in the fight with Hanami you had Divine Dog totality get dispelled when Megumi had the cursed buds shot into his stomach and ate away at his cursed energy.
@@jo_ken Megumi could summon Mahoraga after using a DE, fighting Toji and getting slashed by the ponytail dude. This means you don't really need all that much CE to summon Mahoraga, so you can use the rest of it charging the bull.
@@visionaryvjae5641maybe the subjegation Ritual itself does not need cursed Energy.
And I think in His Fight against kamo the blood User in the Exchange Event (at least in the anime) megumi Said Something Like "this (max elephant) Burns cursed Energy Like crazy"
Doesn't the Bull speed up as it's charging? Pretty sure no treadmill can hold it for long enough to charge the kind of power it would need
I wonder if the inclusion of a technique like Utahime’s Solo Forbiden area would help in a case like this since it’d allow the user to temporarily amplify the cursed energy output of another as long as they’re in range. Which seems pretty big since she’d used it on Gojo before he’d fought Sukuna.
A 200% Agito would be crazy. Have it damage and occupy Mahoraga's adaptation (can't adapt to multiple things at once) while other fused shikigami can kill it. You don't need to one shot from full health. The other 9 shikigami techniques will do some damage until fully adapted, so their chip damage may be helpful for a supersonic water jet or charged up bull to finish the job. Ten shadows is the perfect technique for defeating Mahoraga solo, while still weaker than it.
@@PenguinSage I think the ability made the individual operate at 120% effectiveness with their cursed energy. So nothing crazy, but like trying to take Mahoraga down solo any boost helps.
Also what was interesting is that Mahoraga can only adapt to 8 thinks, so it’d probably take a pretty penny but if you could get some special grade cursed tools with good techniques you could add those into the mix to try and overwhelm the number things Mahoraga would need to adapt to. One that fits this bill would be ‘Festering Life Sword’ that was used by the Cockroach curse Yuta fought.
@@PenguinSage It can adapt to 8 things at once my dude.
How to beat Mahoraga using Ten Shadows is something I hope Gege explains either in an interview or within the series. I also want to know how Inverted Spear of Heaven and Mahoraga's wheel would interact. As far as I can see. Its like an Unstoppable Force meets and Immovable object. I don't know which one would come out on top.
shikigami is a technique, in an inverted spear of heaven that can forcibly nullify a cursed technique. the result will be the same as when Megumi lost to a grade 2 blue cursed spirit from episode 1. but since it's not a ritual and Mahoraga's not been tamed yet, the inverted spear won't work. mahoraga's adaptation is not a cursed technique. it's categorized as extras like gojo's Six Eyes, kashimo's lightning cursed energy, heavenly restriction, etc...
I honestly never thought about including Maki or Toji in the Mahoraga ritual. This sounds like a really good theory.
So Megumi's true potential lies on his missed chance to bond with his father. "Son, you and me.. together we can!" Lol
REALLY great idea and super fascinating. I like how you included entertaining head cannoned possibilities, yet disclosing them as such. Really great video
There’s also the fact that the more cursed energy and experience the ten shadows user has , the stronger their shikigami become , as shown with Sukunas use of the ability.
So if the ten shadows user has insane cursed energy output like Yuta Okkotsu has , than the shikigami would be strong enough to easily be able to take down Mahoraga.
I think Mahoraga doesn’t gain any buffs during the ritual since Mahoraga isn’t “yours” yet but he only gets buffed once he is tamed. This is just speculation tho, but this would make sense since it would be completely unfair otherwise.
Yutaka doesn't have a crazy output. He's got crazy CE reserves. Crazy output would be someone like Ryu, Hajime or Gojo
It's possible that the 10 shadows is meant to be paired with heavenly restriction via twins. Even if the exorcism ritual is voided by a restricted human killing the shikigami, twins are the same person under Jujutsu. 10 shadows also seems to take a pretty low amount of cursed energy and it conveniently allows the 10 shadows user to serve as a "hidden inventory" for cursed tools the restricted human. Hell, we meme on Maki's sister for only being able to make one bullet, but her cursed technique is considered bad because it's so inefficient. One person having low cursed energy isn't that bad when all you need to do is maintain a summon. Summons made as part of a subjection might even be a feature instead of a bug when you consider this.
Something else to keep in mind. 10 shadows has a gimmick of making the remaining shadows stronger when one dies, it also lets the user make use of their shikigami's abilities when they aren't summoned. We also know that Maki became stronger after her sister died. What if the "intended" interaction is for twins to be born, one restricted and the other with 10 shadows, and for one of them to die somehow passing their powers onto the other.
This is a great theory
Twins share cursed energy which is why when {Spoliers}
mai died maki gained heavenly restriction since she was born with no cursed energy but only had some since she shared some with mai so sadly debunked
@@sanicinapanic4264 rip
I think it could be another inherited technique like projection sorcery
A lot of people think that the bull could solo Mahoraga if it get's enough charge, the problem would be that such plan is so easy it's impossible to think that no other 10 shadows user ever thought of it. So let's just assume that do keep the bull active for such a long amount of time would simply drain the user of CE completely and form another plan:
Requirements: all other 9 shikigami tamed, access to the various cursed tools the Zenin clan owns (you could take them temporarly) and finally a completed domain expansion.
Procedure: you open your domain expansion, from there you begin the ritual for mahoraga, you summon multiple copies of every shikigami you have at your disposal and throw them at it, this will keep it occupied and cause a lot of damage to it: the toads and serpent will try to hold it down while it gets rammed by multiple bulls and hit by anything else, in the mean time you also send your copies in the fight, each equiped with one cursed tool.
Let's recap what you've just thrown at Mahoraga: at least a dozen different cursed tools each of which has to be adapted to separately, a shit ton of bulls that ramm into him, lightning, giant serpents and an infinite amount of toads that makes it struggle to move, a giant pack of wolves, a deer that uses RCT and I may have forgotten some other bullshit. The sheer number of things you'd be using aganist it would make it impossible for Mahoraga to adapt before being tamed as it seems it can only adapt to one thing at a time and that does take quite some time.
2 Side notes:
1) there are a lot of indications that even if the shikigamis summoned in the domain expansion are killed you wouldn't be able to summon them again, the first example that comes out of my mind is that both the toads and nue have been "killed" by the finger bearer in the domain expansion and yet megumi was still able to use them afterwards.
2) this plan does utilize an immense amount of CE, a way to circumvent this could be to use a binding vow, something like "you can't use CE for a month, but once that month finishes you'll have access to all the CE you had access to doring the month". even it having that much CE inside of you could damage your body you have the deer that can heal you.
That is an excellent point about needing 2 different curse techniques to realize the full potential of Limitless and 10 Shadows. It would also explain why the zenin clan never tamed mahoraga. Heavenly Restriction is not at all used or respected by the clan, and the notion that you would need a "Monkey" for THE 10 shadows user to become fully realised would definitely never have occurred to such an elitest and dogmatic clan. they definitely would have regarded that as insulting. Only someone like Megumi who was raised outside the clan would be able to come up with such a plan. But since you would need multiple rare events to happen at the same time, it never did.
There’s definitely a power cap on piercing bull, wouldn’t make sense for it to get infinitely stronger. Just like with Inverse in Shibuya the technique can’t scale infinitely, there’s a limit.
I think the restriction of moving in a straight line is big enough to not put a cap on its accumulation. Like how Star Rage doesn't really have a cap because of the drawback of adding the mass onto the user once it reaches near gravitational singularity levels of mass.
Step 1: master a open domain
Step 2: summon mahoraga
Step 3: activate domain
Step 4: summon a fuck ton of Piercing Ox's and let them run around gaining speed
Step 5: stall Mahoraga
Step 6: have a fuck ton of Piercing Ox's with alot of momentum hit Mahoraga at once
Step 6: profit (you have gained Mahoraga)
u would allready be super powerfull with an open domain anyway
thats what im saying tbh@hishenmathurin2844
Oh yeah just master an open domain, why didn’t Megumi think of that
@hishenmathurin2844so megumi is stronger than maho
Ox's have to run in a straight line so open domain doesn't work.
What i want to know is how Sukuna tamed Mahoraga. Ok yeah obviously if Sukuna beat him once, he can do it again, but i still would have liked to see it
i think it counted for megumi when he beat him the first time and sukuna was using megumi's body
@@kevinfranklin9562nah the first fight nullified the ritual, they didn’t show it bc he low diffed it
He probably just cut him in half with one cleave. Made sure to finish the job.
Probably did the same thing again, DE + fire arrow
@@cjthaboss prob just the fire arrow did it
In Pokémon terms: use tera-fighting boosted Kangyu’s raging bull after boosting him with a few bulk ups
Perfectly put.
Yo cooked. I agree heavenly restriction and 10 shadows are linked somehow. There's something up with them.
I'm really curious what the Kamo clan's equivalent secret technique and gift would be if Gege decided to give it any narrative importance. Each bloodline having a coveted CT and rare physical anomaly would be consistent and satisfying as a twist reveal. Blood manipulation alone just doesn't seem potent enough to justify comparison to the Zennin and Gojo clans, they gotta have a better kept secret
Blood manipulation is busted.. it’s one of the fastes attacks we’ve seen in the series and it can boost physical stats, the issue is that we haven’t seen a special grade level blood manipulation user, and when we technically did in the form of the cursed wombs they essentially got negged, I agree that they should have something more to be part of the big 3 families, but unfortunately blood manipulation and falling blossom emotions is all well get out of them
Choso was able to recreate the abilities of his brothers. This could be because all of them have BM variants, but what if that is the true peak of Blood Manipulation? The ability to use any CT of a close blood relative.
BM is famed not for its sheer power, even if it does offer some good options. It is known for it's versatility, and the ability to use almost every technique in your clan's generation certainly seems to fit with that. A Noble family prideful of their lineage, holding the entire clan up with their CT.
The Zennin clan had a lot to CT totally unrelated to 10S, so the Kamo clan is probably the same.
Thanks for the tutorial! really helped me get mahoraga and now finally taming him rn, Ill let you update you guys when I tame him
I'd like to make a note on the last point made.
The person with the heavenly restriction is always an outcast, or outright enemy, to the family.
This small detail actually adds to the probability that Mahoraga was intended to be beaten this way, as it would explain why it's never been done before, while also being a decent possibility for how to beat it
I think one of the biggest and most under appreciated factors in this fight is the deer. We know Mahoraga holds a blade coated in positive energy, but the shikigami itself isn’t necessarily adapted to that as a means of damage. And when fusing the deer with another shikigami, there could be a chance that it’s able to attack with RCT. Plus, with elephant pushing Mahoraga away, the ox can get even more ground to run on while the sorcerer finds a means of one-shot killing Mahoraga with positive energy. I think the sorcerer has a real chance once they’ve mastered all the shikigami.
Thanks for the tutorial, gonna try this when I get home today
Thanks for the guide I've been really struggling with this
recently finished jallos vid of the second iceberg and was genuinely surprised to see u in it no op, didn’t think you’d sneak one on us
Can Mahoraga, in theory once tamed, merge with Nue, Divine Dog Totality? That would be amazing
Yes, but judging from Sukuna and Megumi's fused constructs so far, fusing a shikikami with an another tends to either 1. make the end result weak, or 2. it won't have the ability of the two shikikamis. Fusing shikikamis is used mostly for utility, it's still useful though because fused shikikamis dying don't count towards the permadeath (Not sure on this one, maybe it's just the partial manifestation that's like this). Totality is an entirely different thing though
I feel like the key to taming mahoraga was the heveanly restriction people for they are considered inanimate object as such does not break the ritual. Similar situation with the granny who summon toji.
Thank you, I was in search of a video like this as I’m being chased by Mahoraga. He will not leave me alone, so I’ve decided my only way to defeat it is to tame it, I appreciate this video being quick and straight to the point. I’ll get back to you when I successfully Tame Mahoraga!!
Nigga never responded.
Bro this was an incredible breakdown. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
you know I've always wondered since sukuna demonstrated peircing blood with max elephant, could a 10 shadows user, use Nui's lightning exactly like how sukuna uses his fire arrow?
Step one: Drag Gojo into the ritual
Step two: Test out if you can beat Mahoraga
Failed? Let Gojo kill it.
Did you win? Congrats you can now do the ritual solo!
step 1.5: revive gojo
@@coinse4300 😭😭😭
@@coinse4300bruh gojo is stronger than mahoraga
@@HamzurgerThey're equal
@@ghostlyshame6065 no? 15 finger sukuna is stronger than mahoraga and gojo is equal to 20 finger sukuna. So gojo = 20 finger sukuna > 15 finger sukuna > mahoraga.
I love the way you speak also it’s always pretty interesting hearing discussion about the big general. Could they adapt to understand pachinko though the real questions
I think the easiest way would be to do something like mei mei bird strike, but with all the other shikigami, you would lose the other shikigami, but it would be worth it
Or use escape rabbit which by your theory could and would level an entire city
@@m4y013 that's not how it works, it's a binding vow, the power of it lies on the value of the thing you are sacrificing
FINALLY, i was searching for WEEKS for any discussion for whether or not it would be possible for a 10 shadows user to tame mahoraga without the aid of a second cursed technique
The thumbnail tho 😂
really needed this fam now i'm finna go and tame mahoraga
Thanks! I've been trying to tame Mahoraga for AGES, but I've never been able to get the hang of it! Glad I finally found a guide. I'll be sure to post updates.
Wait, how did you survive your previous attempts?
Mahoraga: Nah, I’d adapt.
Orochi is being used a lot in Totality Summons despite being dead
I've been waiting so long for somebody to make this video
Thanks for the guide bro i needed this to be able to take him I’ve had some trouble but I got it now
Also keep in mind that Piercing Ox can only travel in a straight line so using it at the right moment and at the right distance is important
So as I understand it, the ox has to go in a straight line to build up its impact. Does that apply to falling from the sky? Could Nue drop it from a high height to give it the impact it needs?
Next with Sukuna’s application of max elephants water and mahoragas wheel. Can ox’s ability also be applied to the user?
Great video, love the theory!
Been waiting for this guide to tame my very own mahoraga
Can't you combine shadows? Piercing Ox and Nue sounds like a perfect combo for the mentioned plan, though it can only go in a straight line, nothing stops you from using the others to change redirect it... Nor does the ritual specify you can't summon your your shikigami BEFORE getting mahoraga out, does it?
I wonder if someone with heavenly restriction could help due to being an object from the point of view of cursed energy
There was this thread on Reddit that went over the ten shadows technique and a part of it was how each shikigami could counter each other, of course at the time piercing ox, round deer, and mount tiger weren’t revealed but they fit in with the theoretical match ups of the other shikigami, divine dogs should with mid difficulty take care of the frogs, frogs restrain great serpent, orochi reaches up to and grabs nue, nue counters max elephant, max elephant floods the area and nue shocks rabbit escape to death, rabbit escape can allow you to escape piercing ox charge and distract it, round deer gets one shot with enough build up by piercing ox and that leaves mount tiger witch based on previous one is a hit and run specialist who’s a bit of a tank making it a battle of attrition
Ay thanks man I needed this I was pretty scared to summon him for a while
I thought you could involve others in the “taming” ceremony. Like how Megumi brought ponytail in the ritual when he summoned Mahoraga…
So why not just summon him with Gojo and hit him with a pre-charged purple hollow?
If you involve some other person you won't get the shinigami afterwards.
Basically, Megumi involved the ponytail to get him killed as well. Any outside interference at all results in the ritual finishing, but Megumi not getting Mahoraga. Its also why he didn't get it after Sukuna killed it.
@@ourmanstan No sukuna wasn't included in the ritual thats why, megumi ltierally said multiple people can be apart of the exorcism ritual
@@coal159 By that logic, Gojo could have helped out Megumi anytime, but he didn't.
@@ourmanstan its implied megumi never asked him for help.
I feel like the only way to do it would be tame all the others first then when you summon mahoraga you the domain expansion. Use.tranquil deer reverse curse technique to stop mahoraga's adaptation. Then onslaught it with all the shikigami. Max elephants water and nue's electricity. Having divine dogs and mourning tiger to jump it. Also using tranquil deer and rabbit escape to keep the others alive. While gamma and orochi restrain it. But that's a perfect scenario where non of them are destroyed.
agreed i dont think the ten shadows users had perfected their domains when they summoned mahoraga plus we have seen from sukuna you can use the abilities of the shikigami direct;y like max elephant so that could also give the user a considerable buff and help them join the assault
Thanks i needed this
If you can control the summoning position there are a number of traps to cheese this with. I like the pre charged bull most, but you get a heavy enough rock, or if you simply must one of those steel rods they drop from space
I think a user could do it if they wasn’t lacking creativity so hard. I honestly don’t think it’s impossible that’s the only thing holding them back. Also woulda been cool if they had a monkey shikigami who latched on to a persons back and was able to drain cursed energy from them and give it back to the user. Imagine he put one on Yuta and had Yuta level of CE. He could do so much more with the addition of using the shikigami in shadow form like Sukuna does so they don’t die would be crazy
Yeah its a valid argument also maybe gojo wanted him to grow strong along but we dont know it for certain lets just say megumi didn't really Focused on getting stronger can5 blame him he is 15 lol one way megumi could tame mahoraga by himself would be killing each and every shikigam (he is just too attached to them) i think killing all the shikigami and creating a totality would be alone good enough to defeat mahoraga because there are atleast two elements water and electricity mix of bull and divine dog are good at strength but the key shikigami would be tiger also madoka deers rct is broken and its only weakness is its not offensive but a very vital support its so clear megumi gotta kill all shikigami himself to create totality this is where the sukunas quote comes in in order to grow stronger one shall burn everything around them to ground😅 😅😅😅"
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I always understood that the point of Mahoraga is that the 10 Shadows user has no tools in their arsenal that can beat it (outside of gaining a different technique somehow or using cursed tools).
JJK's strongest power are biding vows, which don't necessarily require the user to formally declare a binding vow, it's just a name (for example, when they explain their ability, they gain a boost to their CT, because of the implied risk). By having an ability based around the idea of taming the shikigami, and having a shikigami you cannot tame, that shikigami can be boosted extensively through this biding vow.
To put it in other words, Mahoraga can exist within the 10-Shadows because the 10-Shadows user is inherently limited in his skill set and cannot hope to tame it. It's a biding vow that exists inherently in the technique (another example of a technique that is similar in this regard, Limitless is only that broken because it takes a massive toll on the user's brain and it's highly complex to use, just Neutral alone requires the user to understand vectors, directions, force, and so on, on top of a massive CE cost. For most users, Limitless is likely a detriment rather than a good technique to be born with it. It's only when paired with the Six-Eyes that they can extract the full potential of the technique, like Gojo).
What if Megumi made a binding vow to ‘never use his shikigami outside of his domain’ I can see his output increasing like crazy
Would be stupid to do tho. Most characters cant use Domain Expansion more than 1 time a day.
Wouldn’t be worth it in the long run, unless megumi just decides to work once a day 😂
@@ayyjahh1943 wouldn’t that increase the power of the shikigami in proportion to that fact. At that point I imagine the divine dogs could one shot a disaster curse(assuming it is fast enough to hit him)
@@xk_monster my agenda is to make Megumi a fighter that relies on his swordsmanship outside of his domain expansion
@@sunnyrainyday6820 I’m fully locked in this agenda. He’ll be just like his dad.
Basically confirms toji beats mahoraga with his full inventory.
Mahoraga is faster than toji, toji gets blitzed, toji also doesnt have ten shadows, and inverted spear of heaven would just cancel the ritual since it would cancel the ten shadows technique, making it unable to tame mahoraga
@@Splateynah toji is faster than mahoraga plus mahoraga cant sense toji so toji would sneak him with the inverted spear or soul split
Really toji should be comparable in speed if not faster since he could kill the Zenin head with projection sorcery. And inverted spear should really just pop maho in 1 go since he's literally a technique.
@@validity1705 what did i just say ? 3-5 finger sukuna=maki zenin/toji in speed, mahoraga kept up with a 15 FINGER SUKUNA in speed. That should be enough to say something
@@seansoku67 what did i just say about inverted spear ? And even if soul split did something, it wouldnt be enough to kill mahoraga
thanks bro i needed this tut imma tame it rn
When I saw the thumnail I thought you’d touch on setting up traps in forehand to defeat the shigigami imedietly after summoning it. Imagine Mahoraga being blown up by a land mine after spawning.
You just gave me a pipe dream, lol. 😂
Heavenly restriction user with Yuta's ring to have unlimited cursed energy for five minutes and multiple cursed techniques (ten shadows).
Would DOGWALK Mahoraga
I think The ISOH would probably just reset mahoraga to its mummified form before releasing 🤷♂️
The Heavenly Restriction User not being recognized as a person by the exorcism ritual due to their lack of cursed energy is both a really clever idea and actually quite plausible. It's also terrifying.
I Feel like an interesting way to beat mahoraga is to learn as much about yout clan and your CT as possible and when you obtain the 10shadows technique summon the ox first, and because you know his power, allow him to run as much as your CE allows( If you can train your CE to become bottomeless or its just stuck where its at) until a life threatening situation like the shibuya incident happens and then let the ox run into him after having around 7 to 8 years of running behind your arsenal
GET OX TO RUN ON A TREADMILL FOR 2 WEEEKS
There’s no shadow that possesses enough sheer power to one shot him
piercing bull chargin in a threadmill for 2 weeks straight enters the chat
@@arzentvmhey if like the summons the ritual is based on the strength of the user that would make it so what it the if you can’t have enough ce to oneshot mahoraga with ox
@@arzentvm I thought about this. Literally the only option tho lol
That thumbnail is awesome
I like the idea of Mahoraga being a deliberate trap for the Ten Shadows user, honestly. One that they aren't supposed to be able to defeat using just their Shikigami, and instead requiring the development of their own strength as a Jujutsu sorcerer. For instance, we see non-innate Jujutsu techniques like curtains, FBE, Simple Domain - as well as Sukuna's Fire Arrow. In addition, we don't yet know if different users of the same technique have the same Domain (since Naobito never used Time Cell, and SUKUNA HASN'T USED CHIMERA SHADOW GARDEN) so it could be possible that Mahoraga's defeat requires individual expression rather than rote learning. It's a shame JJK is gonna be so short, though, because Domains, Barriers, et cetera provide so much interesting stuff to battles but the breakneck pace meant we didn't get much time for training and explanation, yanno?
If Yuta were to copy Ten Shadows, he'd likely be able to tame Mahoraga by switching techniques, but here's something I'm curious about
1. Would his copy include the Divine Dogs since he didn't inherit it
2. Would his bottomless cursed energy influence Mahoraga the way Sukunna's did for Nue and Max Elephant
the way you mention it, it totally makes sense for yuta to not have demon dogs. when yuta copied druvs cursed technique, he couldnt summon his shikigami and used rika instead as the alternating domain shikigami.
@knucklesskinner253 thst sounds possible, but the 10 shadows are a preselected set of shikigami. While we don't know if druvs technique let you decide how they look
Sukuna has 2x as much CE as Yuta so yutas mahoraga would be half as weak as Sukunas
@@cjthaboss the strength of the summons isn't decided by the user's cursed energy, the cursed energy only puts a restriction on how long they can be summoned
@@cjthabossWell it looked the same after Sukuna summoned it so I'd say it's form isn't swayed by cursed energy
thanks for the guide gonna try taming him now wish me luck
You cooked with that gojo/zenin parallel coach ! 🗣️
100 % agree with you. I've been saying this for awhile since I found out that Toji was Mikami's dad anatomy thinking that it's not just a coincidence that the heavenly restriction caters to their clan. I feel like someone with the heavenly prescription is the only way to tame Maharaja. But because of the clans rule, they are basically shooting themselves in the foot does nobody has been able to tame the creature