The 3 Nightwish Singers! Vocal Coach Mary Z Reacts & Explains
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Hi! I'm vocal coach and metal vocalist Mary Z! In today's upload, I react to the 3 singers of Nightwish! Tarja Turunen, Anette Olzon and Floor Jansen. I explain the difference in their singing styles and also about vocal note range vs Vocal Color/timbre! - Hudba
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Actually this band has 4 singers! Never forget Marco!
Marco is great! Love him! :)
Technically Troy also does occasional backing vocals now :)
Well if you want to count Alissa White-Gluz and Elize Ryd for that one show in Denver 2012
@@MCO2ATL2DTWby777 always. And there's even a recording of Elize singing Nemo
Also, Tapio WIlska (formerly of Finntroll) also did some vocals on early albums
I think what we all can agree on is that Tarja, Anette, and Floor all have things that make them unique to the others and Tuomas is a brilliant composer who knows how to utilize each one's individual strengths.
It just feels to me that Floor and Nightwish really needed each other. Nightwish needed somebody who could sing pretty much anything they could throw at her, and Floor needed a band that could give her demanding material that allows her to excel at what she does. Personally I find there are some songs that just work perfectly for Tarja and so it must be quite daunting for other vocalists to cover them (and she's such an essential element to the history of the band). I also really loved the albums on which Anette was the vocalist. I think she was courageous to take on the role after Tarja and personally appreciate what she added.
I got into Nightwish because Tarja's voice, her opera tone was in sharp contrast to metal sound, and that was never heard before. I like how you describe her voice as dark, it is indeed!
I became really in love with Nightwish because of Tarja... Her style is my favorite... It adds spells to the poetic lyrics of nightwish's songs...
Of course, the earlier albums were written to fit her voice. Annette couldn't have her development in Nightwish they couldn't fine tune their sound to match her voice, it's more pop there's no doubt about it, but she is talented too
And now they have the opportunity to make so much amazing music, Nightwish won the lottery by having Floor join the team, she is one of the greatest singers in the world in terms of talent and professionalism
My beautiful and amazing Princess yes... it was because of Floor that I listened to Nightwish again, actually... The first time I heard her voice, I thought it fits really well with the Nightwish sound and the more I listened to her, the more I became in love with her voice... I think she's the perfect fit for Nightwish (after Tarja) that has completed the puzzle pieces... but Tarja will always be a part of my heart... her style is something that has opened my mind that opera could also be a part of metal... and the first symphonic metal song (Nemo) that I have listened to is sung by her so she will remain special to me and that will never change... Annette, on the other hand, is a good vocalist too, don't get me wrong, actually, Eva, which she sung, is one of my favorites... it's true that her voice did not fit much with the nightwish's sound but that doesn't mean she's a bad vocalist... I just thought, with her high pitch timber, singing in a metal band could be bad for her vocal chords...
@@zyche03 That is very true! Tarja has a great legacy in Nightwish and in symphonic Metal, Nightwish inspired many other young mental fans to form their own bands, I believe Simone Simons from Epica (one of my absolutely favorite) started singing cause she used to Listen to Nightwish still in the early days
Annette is a great singer indeed, It's just that they couldn't have enough time to fine tune their music to match her, if she stayed for maybe one more albums I believe they could've come up with a great album!
And ofc Floor is just mesmerising as a singer
All three are great singers
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess very well said... đđđ
I became in love because of Tarja but I stayed because of Floor. I appreciate the effort of Anette, the album they made her was good but the older song dosen't fit her. Floor Jensen can do the old song and the new one too. Love her voice.
Tarja was what drew me to Nightwish. My favorite album is Imaginaerum with Annette singing. My favorite song is Floors live version of Ghost Love Score. We also cant forget all three singers are just wonderful conduits for Tuomas' musical and lyrical genius.
Three angels, each marking a time in an enduring ensemble of competent musicians! Nightwish!
I saw the Nightwish show in Berlin yesterday and Floor was amazing! Not only her voice, but her presence on stage, so much energy! She is just incredible, love her
Freaking loved Floor in After Forever. Glad she's back in the main music scene.
I will always love and follow Tarja she is an angel that walks among us mortals, that said Floor is pure GODDESS. She can do all of it without missing a step.
I grew up on Tarja's recordings so I think to my ear I'll always prefer that operatic quality, particularly for a song like Nemo, but it was really neat to see them all side by side. I tend to associate that style with Nightwish itself, so to hear some of Anette's stuff sometimes makes me go "Oh, wow, that's Nightwish! I had no idea!" All of them are undoubtedly very talented and it was really neat to hear you deconstruct what was happening between the clips. Thank you!
Mostly agree draskuul. Bringing Floor onboard has been the best decision the band have made. It was a blow for me when Tarja left and (though she's a fine singer) I could never get used to Annette's voice even in songs she recorded with them. Hearing Floor and her versatility (sort of best of both worlds voice) was a breath of fresh air. Immediately feel in love. And of course, she is a goddess in the live shows. Hope to be able to see her/them again one day.
Even though Nemo was written during the Tarja era, it didn't do her voice justice imo. It was a lot more on the pop side than their other material. She really shines in the older Power Metal stuff and the more epic Symphonic Metal tracks.
Never got the fanboy competition on the internet myself. Enjoy listening to all three. :D
The voice colors of all Nightwish singers are as follows:
Tarja: Red.
Anette: Blue.
Floor: Gold.
Tuomas: Purple.
Sami: Black.
Marco: Perkkele.
Perkele. ;)
@@k.l.7788 Pff! If anything, it's Perrrrrkele!
XD
Floor is the total package
Cool review. Didnât expect to enjoy your video so much. Usually these vocal coach reaction videos are cringe af, and they hardly ever know the musicians, the song or how to sing... You on the other hand were well prepared, knew what you were talking about and can actually sing! And you werenât insulting to any of the singers. Thank you for keeping it neutral and honest. Even admitting you canât reach all the high notes is a big plus. Most of these wannabe vocal divas in their bedrooms act like they know better than the professional singers on stage singing in front of thousands of people selling thousands of records. Will check out more of your videos and your own music!
Those who can really sing and know how much sweat goes into it are usually appreciative on one another... It is mostly asses who do not know much about anything that are insulting. Wishing they were fewer. Great vid, enjoyed!
Yeah, well stop watching reaction videos on pornhub, and you'll get better reactions.
I want to like this at least a dozen times!!! I like all three singers for different reasons. People act like one is better than the others, and really, it's like comparing an apple, banana, and strawberry. Yeah, they're all fruits (singers), but they didn't become what they are the same way, and aren't even remotely related in type.
I like Floor the best. She not only has the most dynamic voice (for lack of a more technical description), but her stage presence is just off the scale.
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer I'm not a huge NW fan, so I only knew a few older songs from Tarja's era. I really like them (except the Phantom ...).
I didn't even know who Floor Jansen is, just until a few weeks ago when I discovered her various performances in the Dutch show Beste Zangers. But woooow, I was so impressed! She's incredible. What a singer!
Amazing versatility. It doesn't really matter to me if she can sing operatic exactly like Tarja (she probably wouldn't even want to be Tarja's clone) but she can also do metal growls and powerful chest singing that Tarja probably can't. Tarja only sings operatic and she's great in it, but I admire Floor's versatility and I also love her stage presence.
Btw, I think there's nothing to complain about performance like this :) czcams.com/video/UeTyAZtV5wI/video.html
â@WhoDarestheMAN gamer Oh, Phantom of the Opera in particular is the song that I really don't like at all as performed by Nightwish (Tarja and Marko). To me it's awful. Tarja's voice is OK, Marko doesn't fit as a "Phantom" to me at all, he neither looks, nor sounds like what I imagine as phantom. It almost looks/sounds to me like a parody. There's no comparison with Henk Poort.
I also hate when singers hold some tones for too short , like Marko does. Sorry, I can't describe it in technical terms ( I'm not a musician and also not a native English speaker).
I mostly don't like the "timing". Tarja's voice is nice, but I don't like how they are singing it, it sounds chaotic to me. Floor + Henk are exactly in line with the rhythm, with chords, etc. I wish I could show you what I mean.
Henk: Sing oooooonce agaaaaaain with meeeee
Marko: Sing once agaaaaaain withme
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Also, Floor is playing nicely with it. Listen how she sings "The panthom of the opera is theeeeere". That's why other singers sitting on the couch are making grimaces like "oh this is cool" :)
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And stage presence.. Well, that performance in Beste Zangers is one of the most beautiful things I've seen. The chemistry between Floor and Henk is incredible. Floor's movements.. and her grimace when Henk throws in the voice distortion for her :) I love it. He's been her idol since she was a young girl and you can tell from what you see on that stage.
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Btw, kudos to the band too, because it's another aspect that makes is soooo good. I like the music more than that of Nightwish in this particular song.
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I would definitely recommend watching some reactions by professional musicians on that performance. Even they say it's the best version ever.
Sorry, but I really don't like the Nightwish version. Even Nicole Scherzinger's performance sounds better to me than Tarja with Marko.
It might be cool if Tarja sung it with Henk Poort the same way as Floor did, just with her typical voice, but the way they sung it in your video... nah, sorry, I can't enjoy it.
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer Yeah I know that video. But I think Tarja's power is only in operatic singing. I'm not sure if she can sing anything else, for example like this: czcams.com/video/DfYeLUoqw0E/video.html
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Maybe you know some video where she does.
Floor, on the other hand, can sing operatic too (although not the same as Tarja of course, because they have different voices), but she can also do other styles and her chest singing is incredible.
Btw, have you heard "O mio babbino caro"? There is a version from Tarja and one from Floor. There are comments from true opera fans below Floor's video and it looks like they really enjoyed it.
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I just started watching this video. Let's see what the expert says :)
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@WhoDarestheMAN gamer Well, if we compare ONLY operatic singing, then yes, Tarja is better, but on the other hand, she doesn't really do anything else.
I love how Floor can take any song from other singers and make a stunning version of it. That's what the Beste Zangers show is about. I don't know if you've watched it. That was where I fell in love with Floor, at first I didn't even know she's in Nightwish. It was just a week or so later, when I actually watched Ghost Score Love and a few other songs, which I like very much too.
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This is how she sings operatic and honestly, it doesn't matter too much to me if Tarja can sing it louder. I absolutely love this version with Floor's voice and some rock/metal mixed in :)
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@WhoDarestheMAN gamer Oh dear... OK, I think we're done with this one. All vocal coaches here on youtube say exactly the OPPOSITE of what you're saying about Floor, how incredibly talented she is and how she has great technique and control.
You can search it up yourself. Or do you need links from me? Sorry, but I'm not gonna feed trolls any more. Enough is enough.
I'm part of the facebook group and I can tell I LOVE your approach to these videos explaining technique and not just saying "OMG she's great" every two sentences. Very informative material. thank you!
As a long-time Nightwish fan, here's how many of us see it. Tarja is pure classical. Annette is pop. Floor is pure Metal. While I never had any real issue with them picking Annette--for the material we *only* knew her for (Imaginareum for example) she was great--she had absolutely no capability of handling the classical / operatic older content. Her performances of older material was a hot mess, to put it mildly. Floor, however, nails and exceeds all of those. Best decision Nightwish has ever made.
Exactly. That is why I cannot imagine DPP sung by Tarja. She would destroy The Poet and The Pendulum because her voice would bring too much darkness when the counterbalance of a brighter voice is required.
Basically, every Nightwish era has been composed according to the current singer, and that is why a new singer has it very hard to master both early and new repertoire. Floor is amazing by nailing it all, which shows her huge versatility.
Could not agree more.
EXACTLY RIGHT!.
Maybe it's just me but I love all 3 of them lol. I grew up with Tarja so ofc she will always hold a special place for me. But Annete was amazing in DPP and Imaginareum and I truly liked most if not all songs on both albums. And Floor is a metal goddess so there's that. I dunno, I think some people put way too much thought into it. Only thing I didnt like about Annete was that she couldnt really do the old songs like Floor can. But the songs that were written for her, she was amazing in. @@elidanielgarciamartinez3313
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Retrospectively, considering the fact that she had no lyrical singing capabilities, do you still think Anette was the right choice for Nightwish at the time?
Tuomas Hopolainen October 2013 after Floor had joined -
Yes, I do. Iâve said this many times. When I listen to Dark Passion Play and Imaginaerum, I donât think there is another person who could have sung those songs better than her. I really, honestly think so, and the rest of the band does, as well. That was not the issue.
Annette did amazing on her songs, Nemo was not for her but she did her best.
I love Annetes version of Nemo it's floors version that irritates me.
Exactly, Anette's songs like Storytime are truly epic. For her, who has a sharper voice and a more "pop" style, her songs have a different essence, which I personally like better.
@@maxrav1831 I 100% agree. I don't know what it is but when Floor does songs that weren't made for her it irritates me. She recently did that Frozen cover and it messed up the original for me so now I can't listen to both.
@@matiaszuniga2414 I personally like Anette's era more. Her era just has great sound to it.
Loved Tarja since the early days and consider her an absolute icon,- never heard Anette in her time in NW but realizing sheÂŽs actually a brilliant rock singer,-
Floor starts to sing and the gates of Valhalla just swing wide open.
Thank you so much for acknowledging how difficult it is to figure out someone's fach (their place in an operatic system) without hearing them sing/develope an operatic sound.
God bless all the earlier & the
momently NIGHTWISH !!!!!!!!!!!
After Forever was an underrated or not well known Gem. I still listen to them once in a while. So sad that they split/quit.
love AF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What are their best songs? I'll listen to it. Give me a few tips.
I love after forever... awesome band... with floor
@@Ministry_0f_Truth you probably already did research on your own but if you havent , all they're albums are great but a few standout songs are.....Intrinsic, Forlorn Hope , Leaden Legacy , My plegde of allegiance pt 1 , Black Tomb . If you like these you should like mostly everything else .
They really weren't underrated. There sound just wasn't it. Floor didn't make it better that much. The whole band has to be good not just a couple songs.
Please review Sharon den Adel from Within Temptation.
Another beautiful voice....and smoking hot.
YAAAAAAS
It could be freaking amazing!
She's the perfect woman.
I SECOND THIS!!!
This is awesome. Thanks so much for posting all 3 together in comparison!!!
You are now my favorite channel.. I've been playing guitar for 46 of 53 years, and am now addicted to a singing channel, because of your amazing choices of bands you review. Anette Olzon, Elize Ryde, Simone Simmons, you're the best!
My favourite will always be Tarja although all of them are amazing singers. Tarja had this angelic voice which is unmatched by anyone I know so far.
Oh yes qwq
Oh yes qwq
Try therion's soprano, Lori Lewis, she is a heart-meltinggggg...
much better than tarja.
You should enjoy the 3 singers specially Floors After forever songs or her old of nightwish! Tarja magnificent with her solo project!!
I donât think she owns an angelic voice. She is a queen of mystery with powerful voice of a siren rather than a lovely angel. Lol
I LOVE Floor so much! She is absolutely amazing and she was fantastic live!
Hi i really appreciate your professional comment for singers of Nightwish I don't sing but really love Nightwish and for me as a fan Tarja is the best.waiting your other videos greetings from Italy
Ha. Treading emotionally dangerous waters here :) That was so tastefully and professionally done, sticking to the differences and value of each of them without preference. Brilliant job and great explanation for lay people (like me).
Excellent analysis. I love Nightwish and all of their singers. Thank you for your work.
This was simply the best analysis of comparing all 3 singers.
Awesome coverage on the singers...theyâre all 3 completely different vocalists (and all awesome!)
Nightwish has been one of my favorite bands for a long time now!!
Fun fact: Anettes previous experience before Nightwish was as a country singer!
Hello from a Swedish fan of your channel
that makes sens!
first nightwish react video I've seen with all three singers. love that you show all of them and show the differences. the science behind is really interesting. I know how the singers differ from being into and making music pretty much all my life, but hear the science behind how they do it is a little eye opening. A few more videos like this and I might have to subscribe. cheers!
Floor's version of Ghost Love Score is wonderful. It is the rare talent of singing a song as good or better as the original.
She loves this song, it's #1 in her profile on Nightwish website. I guess that's the reason why it sounds so great: singing a song you love most of all, on the stage with one of the greatest metal bands, when many thousands people watching at you and shouting your name - it must be a dream of every singer.
heard Tarja and Floor sing a duet for Over the HIlls and Far away, its gorgeous, for ghost love score i still prefer Tarja but if the 2 could ever duet Ghost Love score it would be bloody epic
Ghost love score is my preferred Nightwis's song and I had listen to it hundred of times performed by Tarja, but Floor's version is incredible and I prefer her.
Ah yes, I've heard it only live from Floor, and I love the emotion in the voice. Because it's an emotional song. And I like it better than Tarja's live.But then I love Tarja's studio version of Ghost Love Score too, which is much better than the live version. Notice how much the song has changed though.
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Except it wasn't nearly as good as the original.
It would have been great on it's own if nobody ever heard Tarja's original, but trying to follow that...it just isn't on the same level.
My opinion anyway.
Thanx very much for this extraordinary comparison of the three singing goddesses ;)
Good idea, good analysing!
Greetings from Germany/Berlin
Personal preference...Floor Jansen hands down is my favorite.
Floor Jansen to me is the best female singer in the metal genre. She is the full package. I loved Tarja and Annette, love their albums, but I'm enjoying a lot this Nightwish era with Floor. It is like the perfect mix
Nightwish creatively died soon after Tarja left. They haven't made a good album in years. Dark Passion Play was the last thing of quality they made. I can't imagine the band still being active 5 years from now. Their popularity has been waiting for years now. They need to beg Tarja to come back and then get back to basics instead of overwriting songs.
Catriona Colville I seriously doubt Tuomas would write any better songs just because Tarja came back. He has a way of doing music that will never again appear as creative as when the band first broke through.
Catriona I think the reason why Nightwish seemed more creative with Tarja is because Tarja wrote the vocal parts. Tuomas would send Tarja the music and the lyrics and she would decide how to sing it. I donât think a lot of people know that or give Tarja credit for that, and I really think thatâs why newer Nightwish songs have more generic vocals, even if the instrumental parts are good. Tarjaâs husband even mentioned that Tarja never received any money for contributing to the songwriting.
Tarjaâs Wikipedia page says:
âHolopainen wrote the pieces and sent Turunen the lyrics and a demo recording of the prerecorded instrumental tracks by mail. Using the demo, Turunen designed her vocal lines and the choral passages.â
I love Floor
@@catrionacolville2192 I've never been a big fan of Nightwish (until Floor) so I don't know a lot of their work, I mostly only know what they are touring with right now and maybe some other songs here and there. I can't prove you wrong with regards to the difference in creative quality but I think The Greatest Show On Earth is a prima example of there still being at least _some_ creative quality in there. Songs like Ălan however, while they sound nice, can't match the greatness of compositions like Ghost Love Score. It's easy to the ears but mostly because it's a lot more pop-ish.
Floor is the MASTER in different styles .She's amazing
If there's one "vocal coach does thing with/talks about/reacts to [song]" video about Nightwish that's actually worth listening to, it's this.
Mary Z - I absolutely love your analysis. You are truly and supremely educated in vocal analysis/techniques. (Being a spinto tenor myself, I really enjoyed your descriptions and was nodding my head the entire 11 minutes of your video). I am now a SUBSCRIBER!!
Tarja was the reason I got into Nightwish, and then into metal in general. Floor is great as well, love her.
Same with me and Tarja still has a place in my heart with her warm round operatic tonal qualities. I watched the video of Tarja's presser the day after the band sent her away and I was very depressed. I quit Nightwish completely until I heard Floor singing with them at Wacken 2013. She has captured my heart with her masterful singing as Mary has so eloquently described. Without doubt a premier vocal analyst(I love her voice too!!)
Tarja was the reason I got into Night wish, and also the reason i stopped listening to them. Her voice just seemed to sound the same on every song after a while and it got boring listen to them.
yep, my heart will always be with Tarja as well, because she was the reason I started listening the band but I like Floor as well, I hope that they dont let her go
Same. And also Nightwish as we know it today, exists only because of Tarja. Tuomas change his acoustic music so it can follow Tarja's full voice.
@@DEA983 yep, they created Nightwish as a heavy metal band to support Tarjas amazing voice,many people dont know that, I would argue that for that alone Tarja was very important for Nightwishs success....I would say that Tarja made the band famous and when she "left" I stayed with them but Anette disappointed me soo badly that I didnt return until couple of years ago when I heard that they have changed their vocalist again, I would say that Floor saved the band for sure
Of the three singers, Tarja sings with the most open throat. And her voice has the most unique character, that's why she's my favorite.
Seventhsonofamaiden itâs why she also conveys more power, overall. An open throat means more natural volume and consistency without strain.
I can't stand the hell out of her... I can't. Nosey, vibratoholic sounding like a goat, exaggerating, misses the notes multiple times, changing the songs. It's awful to my ears when she sings live.
And no, I can't stand Anette either. I mentioned Tarja changing the song. Anette doesn't change the song, she smash them and sing non existent songs instead.
Floor man. Floor.
Lucy LUCA tarja didnât use to do this until recently, itâs not fair to brand her overall career like this. If youâre new to nightwish/tarja keep doing some research until youâre in a suitable position to moan about stuff.
@@deutschesmaedchen allready in 2004 tarja sucked balls live.
Terrible.
Not only missed notes but fucked them up completely
Dennis van Opstal even so. She had an eight year career of good live performances up to that point. So you donât get to shit on her entire career as a singer.
Omg finally someone who can actually explain in technical terms what I mean when I think that Floor has a very medium tone! Cuz I knew I was hearing it. In my head Iâve always considered Floor and also Sharon den Adel to have very âneutralâ voices but didnât know why I was hearing that or how to describe it well.
I would love to hear an analysis of Anneke van Giersbergen's voice, singing and technique.
I remember hearing Nightwish for the first time almost 10 years ago, and I loved the instrumentals but haaaaaaaated the vocals, and I kept thinking, 'Damn...if they had a different singer I'd love this band.'
Then they got Anette and I was indifferent....
And then they got Floor, and now I can't get enough of this band.
I have had the exact same experience. Loved the instrumentals but just did not like the voice of Tarja. The constant opera was just getting on my nerves (sorry tarjaholics just my opinion). Then Annette came who seemed out of place but I liked a few songs a lot (fi I want my tears back) but it did not really grab me. And then I heard the ghost score live version in Buenos Aires and man .. I was smitten. Instant fan. Must have replayed that epic ending like a zillion times. I dare to say it is a better version than the Wacken 2013 one.
Good choice nightwish forever
Same here! When Poet and the pendulum came out I started listening to them more but only the albums with Anette. When Floo was cast I started listening to it all is the perfect voice for this band
I've been to much of the same, but I was already a huge After Forever fan. so to me the current Nightwish is good because it reminds me of AF, but AF was still better.
I just found them this year. So of course I started going back to hear the older albums. Tarja always seems like sheâs off beat to me.
Thank you, that helps to explain a lot about the difference in singers. I wonder if Tarja being the only Finnish speaker, and as Finnish is spoken in the back / top of the mouth, has different phrasing in her singing style.
Dutch (Floor her native language) has that same "quality".
Tbh I think Nemo is Tarja's song - everything about her performances were amazing. I like Floor and think she is a great lead, but Nemo just sounds 'right' when Tarja sings it.
Floor jansen shined best in her "ayreon" era. She did an amazing job, there!
Tarjas chief troll at work ...
than you go to nightwish with boring tarja so go back to 2000
Just like in my oppinion, Rest Calm is Annette's song. i would acctually be really sad if I heard anyone else sing it. Love that song with Annette.
@@ANDZIGCREAM ok i understand
Let's not overlook the genius of Tuomas. He's consistently written songs that play up the strengths of their current singer.
And Floor has to sing a lot of songs NOT written for her and does it perfectly.
I think Anette couldn't reach her full potential at Nightwish.
She was very good in Nightwish, but now that she is singing in The Dark Element, just amazing!
A big problem was, the first album published after she joined was still written for Tarja (who is classically trained).
@Phoenix GSD anneke is the best
@Phoenix GSD she HAS her own Band VUUR. And she has her own solo stuff. And she is constantly doing stuff with Ayreon and with devin Townsend. Also with Amorphis and anathema.
Actually her career is great where you been?
@Phoenix GSD I said ANNEKE from the beginning. I never said Annette. Please read
It's hard to fill the shoes of someone who is your opposite.
People joined Nightwish's fanbase for their unique sound.
A sound they helped pioneer and then suddenly they have a much more mainstream and accessible sound? So people felt like they sold out a bit.
Anette is very talented but it's hard to fill the shoes of someone who is your opposite who made such an impact on music and is known as " The Voice of Finland " for the country they hail from.
And still would love to hear about Corey Taylor.....based on his wide rage and style or if we were doing screamers only how about Randy Blythe?
great idea!!
Amazing video! I have never heard this type of classification of various voices. Very informative!
I love how you were able to explained their different styles and the way you discribed them was on point! Thx a lot for this. You have my subscribe and like and also a ringbell activation.
I Love Annette two albums.
I love tarja solo albums.
I love Floor. She is my favourite!
Annete and Floor have amazing voices, but Tarja's voice is PURE MAGIC at all
idiot.
I agree. Tarja is who caught my attention originally. I've listened to so many of the live performances. Tarja always was wonderful. Anette is only good in the song bye bye beautiful. Floor is amazing but I've heard slip ups and tones that were less than desirable when she was trying to do what tarja does. So for me it's a 60/40. Tarja being the 60 and floor the 40. Getting rid of Anette was their best decision.
So... think it`s comes time for Tuomas to change front vocalist again ("we do Ameri ... pff ... we do band great again"), because floor with time becames booring, but marco did his solo album (out in January 2020) ... sooo...maybe new solist will be Man, not female ... :P ;)))
Great video! I like your analysis. It made me realize why is it that I still donât get use to Floor. Itâs because she is in the middle. By now Iâm already convinced that she was a great addition to Nightwish, I love the way she performs the old Tarja songs, which in my opinion, Anette couldnât, I also love the energy she has, tuning, register.... but somehow, I still donât like Nightwishâs last album. Maybe itâs not because of Floor, but because there is too much repetition of musical elements in the arrangements and compositions. Believe me, Iâm a Nightwish fan, I love them, but Iâm still not hooked up with their current set up. Maybe I just have to go see them live. :)
Loved hearing your discussion of Nightwish. I accidentally came across the genre many years ago thanks to the internet and have been hooked.
Floor all the way! To what the band has evolved to now, she is the perfect match.
Ahhh the usual metal debates on CZcams. The keyboard warriors are out. Time to grab popcorn đ
Nightwish fans are the most toxic bunch I've ever encountered. On a video analysing their vocal styles, every comment is "omg anette sux floor is amazing!!!1111". God knows why I venture down here.
@@PJBonoVox They are just very passionate, just like any fandom out there.
@@PJBonoVox I personally think the 3 of them are amazing, they all bring something different to Nightwish. đ
Wow. Amazing! Thanks for the video!!
This is the best explanation I have heard about the different colors and timbres, and manipulation of the epiglottis. This video is great because of hearing the different voice styles side by side.
Knowledge is very attractive. Normally I am not into singing but this was very interesting.
Good job broadening my horizons.
3 wonderfull singers. Anette is from same city Helsingborg as me and she was part of a musical-project called âGrĂ€nslandâ=âBorderlandâ with both professionals and amateurs back in the 90:s. I was working with the stage and maybe also the pr-layout, so long ago so donât remember fully. Anette and all the other actors/musicians made a hell of perfomanceđđđ». Wish that the music was recorded but sadly not. Anette made a beautiful job in Nightwish, she made the music softer, more welcoming, not so bombastic. Donât missunderstand me, Tarja is a stunning singer an she has really made her a place among the biggest stars in at least Europe. Love her solo-workđ I was very surprised when Anette also left Nightwish. But if i should be really honest then Nightwish with Floor has reached perfection, it just canât be any better! Floor and Nightwish are truelly magical!đđș
Very informative.....and interesting. I dont know why i missed this channel all those times. Liked and Subscribed. Thank you, Mary Z.
Thank you, that was very helpful from my personal learning perspective! â€
I'm curious about a real analysis of how Babymetal's Su-Metal has grown and improved her voice over time, now that they've been around for a few years. Think that'd be pretty interesting!
You are probably my favorite vocal coach on youtube in the sense that you know exactly what you are saying and the insights you gave were informative. I mean once i listen to you, I am not confused anymore. Next time do react on Lzzy Hale's singing...how does she sing like that đđđ It's insane
Thank you! This made me understand my own singing waaay better!
A very nice break down of these three very talented soprano singing ladies :) \m/
I like both tarja and Anette, but Floor is the most versatile singer they've ever had, no doubt.
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@@marciosouza3371Not funny. Completely true.
I totally agree
@IRON MAIDEN Are you kidding me? Tarja only operatyc style can sing very well. In past concerts with Nightwish she had too much difficult in rock, pop and other styles. Their interpretation was bored, instead each Floor'notes are riche of passion. She live the Nightwish's songs. Floor is the most complete singer I'd ever seen.
Io each case, I love Tarja, but I think that Floor is most complete and she have a voice that I love more.
I love more the old Nightwish's songs when is Floor that is sing it.
This is the fact.
If you don't like, I don't care. We goes on!
@IRON MAIDEN ahahahah please! You really drunken ahahaha
Nobody ever mentions diction. FJansen diction is amazing. No operetic falsetto unless she herself dials it up. She doesn't need that head voice to pull off the job. That voice is coming from her diaphragm. The last scream or note if you will on Ghost... Powerful, clarity and almost effortless. To me it's no contest... This is a rock band. FJ is a rock singer... Period.
Thank You! Everytime Floor sings - you can understand EVERY SINGLE WORD. She has a really wonderful way of singing effectively AND using diction properly.
They're all great.. But Tarja is what gave nightwish their signature sound
"Operatic falsetto" is a misnomer. There is no falsetto in Classical singing. Tarja is Finnish (where all the members of Nightwish originally came from), that's her accent. I love it personally, it's like Finland was saying "Look and see what we got."
Let me just give you props for ACTUAL VOCAL ANALYSIS. Ever since I clicked on one âvocal teacher reactsâ video, CZcamsâs algorithm keeps serving them up in my feed, yet yours is the only one with such rich analysis and not simply âomg reactsâ. Thank you!
đđđ TY!
So refreshing to watch you talk about the technical aspects rather than just sitting there going âthey sound great...they sound greatâ. Definitely enjoyed this video a lot!
I was 2 years old when they get rid of Tarja, but i'm sad anyways. I want to see her with those guys so much.
Btw, today, i'm going to Nightwish concert in Prague.
I loved After Forever and was happy when I saw Floor even joined in Ayreon for a song or two, and when she joined Nightwish, I was quite happy, she's the perfect fit for that band. This is the first time I've actually agreed with someone speaking on the three vocalists, most people I encounter seem to worship Tarja, I was just never hugely into the classical style, Anette sounded kinda meek in comparison to Tarja however, so she didn't feel completely right either, but it finally opened for Marco to do a song, I love the Islander. So when Floor became the new vocalist, Nightwish became better in my mind, but opinions differ, I ain't gonna hold others opinions against 'em, but still nice to see someone not just shitting on the two other vocalists because they're not Tarja.
I'd love to agree on Floor being a perfect fit, however, I feel Nightwish somehow dulls her down quite a bit in search of something that sounds "radio friendly".
Its too bad Adrienne from the band Blackbriar is in that band. I think she would've been some one who could've filled in.
I love Floor, but since you brought up After Forever, it seemed between that band and Revamp, plus a few other things that Arjen put together, you get a more "powerful" presence than most of what Nightwish seems to want to do now.
Night wish with Tarja had more of an "in your face" approach to a good portion of the songs but became watered down & pop rock-ish by the time Annette came in & stayed somewhere between pop-metal and maybe, euro new metal mixed with symphonic/ melodic ( if you wonder why new metal, its due to a lack of cool guitar solos like NW used to have.)
As far as Marko, he's kind of a cool singer & reminds me a bit of Devon Townsend vocally mixed in with Meatloaf as a vocalist.
I also originally thought Floor was there only as a "temporary" singer helping NW out? This was what folks were told before she decided to go more full time with them.
It would he nice to have NW redevelop a more "grittier" sound like they had with Tarja but IDK if Tuomas would "allow" it.
@Necroglobule Oh dear... that one came low!
And I like it! :P
I think it's hard to compete with Tarja. She is literally the Opera + Metal pioneer in symphonic metal. The go-to face. It's like trying to replace Aretha Franklin in a soul music lineup.
So that major impact ontop of her having SUCH a distinctive voice? her voice is not only more different it's just fuller - thicker - richer and heavier. It packs a lot more drama to it and this gives Tarja's diva role a lot of charisma and depth that is aluring to see to a LOT of people. Plus Tarja has only improved given Opera singers don't reach prime til 40.
It's understandable why people are let down by comparison. In Anette's case they came for Tarja and got her opposite. In Floor's case, she literally replaced a woman that she is unavoidably massively inspired by?
Me too! But I think Floor swing much better in AF than in nightwish even that Floor as wonderful and its gret having her again in a great band like nightwish
I'm not shitting on Floor and Anette, I just think that Tarja sticks better to the spirit of the band. You can hear in the first albums that she is also a muse and clearly inspired for the writing of the lyrics also I liked the duo Tarja/Marco I compare to Beauty and the Beast. With Floor and Marco, there is two beasts. That's why I'll always prefer Tarja, but not on stage: she doesn't have the metal culture and doesn't fit. Sorry for english.
This reaction is awesome! I love that you mention Floors background with After Forever. I saw you with them on your, it was fantastic. đđ€
I love this so much. Also super stoked for the screamers.
I agree with you, floor is a amazing singer
I disagree
@@rolandsales4611 you're just wrong. After Forever was amazing, and she's wonderful in Nightwish
Can you do a video comparing the three singers of Iron Maiden? Would love to hear your opinion.
This was so uselful!!! Thanks!
Just found your channel. I am a musical theatre/pop singer and even I find your videos incredibly insightful and very entertaining. Thank you very much keep up the content!!
Thank you Dylan!
Ugh while Tarja did well at the end of an era concert, shes said she was getting sick before the show. Not the best choice for comparison at all
React to Simone Simons (Epica)
Ditto. If anyone can match or come close to Tarja it's Simone Simons.
@@edwinsparda7622 OMG! How could i forgot Simone??? Right, the most close to Tarja Is Simone!
@@stefanmihalea I'd actually suggest Zuberoa AznĂĄrez from Diabulus in Musica is the closest to Tarja on the scene at the moment. She has a very similar voice. Very talented too.
Simone Simons blows Tarja out of the water. Her operatic voice is better but ahe can also hit the more "rock" or "metal" vocals
@@TheReTurnersFlips what about dianne van Gierbergen
There's a flood of "vocal coach reacts to..." vids on youtube these days... And I enjoy many of them. Really happy to see this one.
Thank you, I appreciate your video on the Nightwish Vocalists.
Nicely done. Clear, concise info, with the more technical stuff made understandable. Much appreciated
Although still new to me, I think I get why fans are so passionate and protective.
Great video! Nightwishes current singer is like the perfect blend of the first two!
The current singer is the perfect singer for the band, the others are not even at the same level
Tom McNamara I disagree. They are all unique in their own way.
mikatu Tarja and her classical technique is technicaly 1 league above Floor. Nightwish was transformed into a metal band around Tarja's voice and every song she made with them sound better than the new versions.
No matter how much I look at it I cannot find how people can state that Floor is the ultimate Nightwish singer like if it is the absolute truth.Floor's opera/ metal vocals are contemporary and therefore less agile, less sustained, the vocal amplification (''Resonance'' ) is mediocre, her vibrato is forced, she has difficulty doing legato... Meanwhile Tarja is quite agile, has a fuller voice due to a better support and , her voice is twice as strong if we talk about resonance ring, her vibrato is powerful and healthy, a timbre that is arguably of better quality (Objective not subjective), she sustain both lower and higher... she can even modify her technique a little to produce a 6th octave note that ressembles Daniel Heiman's D6 screaming. Tarja could probably still sing at 60 years old while Floor will lose her voice way before that age.This is the difference between classical singers and contemporary. There is a reason why people are still talking of Tarja after almost 15 years, her voice is what made Nightwish become a metal band and no matter how many new fans say that Floor is better , Tarja is the best vocalist out of the 3.Period.
Mathieu Lizotte I feel tarja has one style and never strayed from it in any song Iâve heard. But Nightwish songs have different feels and emotions and I donât think they should be song by one style. Floor can sing in many different ways. Not to mention her stage presence is incredible.
Mathieu Lizotte their stuff is different now? How so? I happen to like the live versions of all of their songs with Floor as the vocalist. Not to mention theyâve only done one album with Floor. I would have to look up the numbers to see their success over the years, but Nightwish seems to be reviewing a lot more recognition in the last 8-10 years. This isnât to say I donât love old Nightwish too.
Thereâs more to being a great frontman(woman) than having a âbetterâ voice. Steven Tyler is not a great singer but he is a great singer for Aerosmith and one of rocks greatest vocalists.
This was very interesting to watch! Not a singer sadly but still cool from an outside perspective.
Please react to "underneath", the studio version. It's one of the most beautiful ballads I've ever heard. It's from Tarja Turunen's solo career. Thank you very much!
Oh man! I love all three singers and massive fan of Nightwish.. Loved this video! â„ â„ â„
I love all of them. Tarja is the best female singer in metal for sure. I love her, she's my hero. My favourite Nightwish album's gotta be Imaginaerum, Anette's voice is so addicting. Love her alot. And Floor is just AMAZING !! Fell in love with her since day 1. Love her voice, her style, her beauty, her stage presence. Just love them.
But i gotta say, my favourite Nightwish singer is and always will be Marco đđ
Loved the video đ
Haha, preach! A heart for Marco, he doesn't get appreciated enough! :)
Big Bang K-Kings Floor has beauty?
@@benedictdonald4338 anyone who doesn't think she's hot is fucking blind
@@benedictdonald4338 She is very beautifull. Maybe not by average standards, but she totally is my style of woman.
I have seen after forever and nightwish on the same festival on the same day.
And Floor is a much better live singer than Tarja.
I was so dissapointed in Nightwish that day that i never played my 2 nightwish cds again and i sold my nightwish t shirt online to a gothic girl.
Love the breakdown. For me Tarja is my favorite since I been listening to Nightwish since thier album. I do also love Floor and feel she is the most overall talented of the 3.
Annette is not a bad singer but I feel she was not the right singer for Nightwish.
Mary Z, you are a gentle......woman and a scholar. This was a really good comparison, and your detailed analysis really helps me understand the terms involved in how singers are evaluated and described. Really good video, and I had to thumbscribe.
with Fllor it al ed;pends on what part of the song you ar listening to , she changes style throughout. Amazing versatility.
I get why people obsess over Tarja and Floor, I just favour the brightness of Anette contrasted with the music. So much emotion from her.
Anette is amazing. And sheâs individualistic. Doesnât sound like a cover artist doing karaoke like floor...
@@AlexisRanae she is my favourite, but Floor is an incredible singer too, I prefer the brightness of Anette's voice, but Floor is amazing, she should go solo to flourish.
Tennislovingcoffeeaddict floor is amazing we can all agree. And if she were to go solo? Man oh man. Thatâll be delightful. My favourite is still Tarja, with a few songs preferred by Floor I admit, and Anette is a close second because she just brings a whole different mood for me! I enjoy her love performances. Sheâs full of life and smiles and gets me going.
@@AlexisRanae it's a joy to watch her perform on stage, she had big shoes to fill with Tarja, and best for me is that she didn't try to copy, but she reinterpreted the songs, credit also to Tuomas. I do prefer Tarja on some songs, but just now and then, with Siren and Sleeping Sun, Anette dazzles.
@@AlexisRanae yes anette is amazing at a childs party singing without emotion
Holy shit that was a great break down of each singer,new sub for sure! \m/ \m/
Amazing! I love learning more from singing styles! A Lot of fans are always critizing how the vocalists sing each otherâs era songs doesnât paying attention to this differences!
I really like this video. It's very technical and I like videos that take a technical look at it, but yet you explain it so clearly to those who don't know much about vocals can understand.