Robert Plant - Singers Then And Now (With Singing Tutorial) Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy
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- In this video series, we look at the early years and the later years of one of Rock's most Iconic Vocalists: Robert Plant of Led Zeppelin!
Robert Plant - Singers Then And Now
The goal of this series is not to make fun of people, to show a picture of them in their youth and then mock them in their older age.
The goal is to showcase how voices have sustained over time. And who has taken care of their voices and who hasn't, and what was the result. And what could've been done differently for those that did not take care of the voices.
Could they have sustained their voices? And can they be rehabilitated now? Some singers (few) are just gifted with great genes and have been able to sustain their voices on their own. This is a rare exception. The rest of us mere mortals have to work at it, just like we have to work at our voices to get range, pitch, power, control, longevity, stamina, and so forth.
In addition, it's just really cool to check out the incredible careers of these artists and marvel at their singing.
So today, we are looking at none other than Mr. Robert Plant!
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Robert Plant in interviews looks back and laughs at those early scream days. He intimated that he was just winging it live. You listen to him talk and you realize what a cool person he is. He is an incredible vocalist, particulary from a feel and passion perspective. Such an awesome tone and timbre to his voice.
I saw Robert Plant live about 10-15 years ago and he sounded better than ever. I haven't seen him lately but you can tell he was working on his voice.
Robert Plant is one of those one-of-a-kind vocalists. I agree that he still sounds as good today as he did when he was still in Led Zeppelin even though he can't wail those high notes anymore like he used to.
Check out “How The West Was Won” if you want to hear Robert Plant sounding great live. It’s a recording from the LA Forum 1970 or 71. Plus… There are some BBC recordings of very early Zeppelin where Plant is sounding awesome, the way he does on the studio albums.
HTWWW and BBC arent the peak of Plant.
Not to mention those guitar solos and drum solos that go on into infinity. My first taste of zeppelin playing live.
I think it was '72, IIRC.
No, this is wrong. It’s 1972, and another part of it is the Long Beach 1972 show
There’s a CZcams recording of “listen to this Eddie… “Which is specifically to show Eddie Van Halen that Jimmy page could play guitar well live, but Plant has some amazing vocals on that one… Such as going to California.
He aged well. Like a .999 gold coin, keeping its value!
They way he did Kashmir and Stairway to Heaven in London in 2007 was very impressive.
Robert Plant is always a great performer... Awesome frontman!
I've seen Robert in concert in many occasions, always enjoyed his concerts. Rod Stewart once said about Robert, he was given this gift was one of the best voices in rock, I hope he takes care of it, unlike me who has just gotten out of surgery.
Plants voice is so much a part of my first musical experiences as a kid that really blew my mind, so even at half pace and a more limited range, his voice still sends shivers down my spine. Damn, how many (more) times did I listen to Since I've been loving you after a break up? I've seen him live solo a couple of times. The first time i saw him the band came on stage and started playing, and after a minute or so the his incredible Whole lotta love-scream: Lllllooooove! came from backstage, and everyone's hair was on end. Fantastic. Thanks for the run through, very interesting.
" Damn, how many (more) times did I listen to Since I've been loving you after a break up? "
Good one, lol.
Was just on Spotify and was listening to a Christian playlist and randomly came across one of your tracks "Livin for my Lord" 👍🏻👍🏻
Plant actually had a powerful thick voice in 60's and somehow managed to change his sound in 70's. It blows my mind how he managed to change such a thick voice to a thin sharp voice which was of course his trademark voice.
He lost his abilities in 73 - 75 but improved in 76 - 79. Now he actually sounds more mature and decent.
Can you please do a video about Freddie Mercury's voice change from 74 - 91. You'll be amazed how his voice changed throughout the years. Of course Aids cost him his life but he actually got a higher range after losing weight. Both plant and Mercury are GOD'S of the music industry.
Some of Zeppelins music are underated. (Down by the seaside) such a beautiful Masterpiece.
There are stories that haven't been confirmed that he had a surgery on his vocal chords around that time, which caused him to lose the highest parts of his voice.
I always thought he should have kept that thick, powerful voice. The really high stuff- not so much.
Down by the Seaside is one of my favorites too! The Rover is another good deep cut
@@onsesejoo2605 he did, straight after the 73 tour, his voice was never the same after that
I sometimes wonder if the stuff on houses of the holy wasn’t slowed down to record the vocals and then sped up to get that thin sound. Either way my favorite band ever and no one else is even close.
How about doing an episode on yourself Ken? I actually think you got better with age! You are one of the best singers I ever heard!
Yes, I LOVE this series, please do one on Daryl Hall next because for being well into his 70's he's really gotten creative with his voice, IMO!
I'm digging this series, Ken.
I'd love to hear your take on Vince Neil.
I would too Ken. By the way, I love this series too.
Same.😉
This isn’t a comedy show lol
It's coming :-)
Here is the entire schedule I have so far for Singers Then And Now
SINGERS THEN AND NOW SCHEDULE (STAN)
Thur 01/20/2022 Ozzy Osbourne - STAN
(Fri 01/21/2022 Trolls, Haters, And Losers)
Mon 01/24/2022 Lenny Kravitz - It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over
Tue 01/25/2022 Freddie Mercury STAN
WED 01/26/2022 Vince Neil - Motley Crue STAN
Thur 01/27/2022 Magdallan - Big Bang - Ken Tamplin Original
Fri 01/28/2022 David Lee Roth STAN
Mon01/31/2022 George Michael STAN
Tue 02/01/20225 Incredible Tips On How To Sing Better Instantly
WED 02/02/2022 Axl Rose STAN
Thur 02/03/2022 Bruce Dickinson STAN
Fri 02/04/2022 How To Sing More Than A Feeling - Boston
Mon 02/07/2022 Michael Jackson STAN
Tue 02/08/2022 Steven Tyler STAN
WED 02/09/2022 DIMASH - Adagio
Thur 02/10/2022 Ann Wilson STAN
Fri 02/11/2022 Tom Jones STAN
Mon 02/14/2022 Geddy Lee STAN
Tue 02/15/2022 Sebastian Bach STAN
WED 02/16/2022 Luciano Pavarotti STAN
Thur 02/17/2022 Andrea Bocelli STAN
Fri 02/18/2022 DIMASH - Passione
Mon 02/21/2022 Rob Halford STAN
Tue 02/22/2022 How To Sing Better Instantly Part 2
WED 02/23/2022 Singing In Different Environments
Thur 02/24/2022 Stevie Wonder STAN
Fri 02/25/2022 ELTON JOHN STAN
Mon 02/28/2022 Foreigner - Hot Blooded Kayla
Tue 03/01/2022 Ronnie James Dio STAN
WED 03/02/2022 Klaus Meine STAN
Thur 03/03/2022 Brian Johnson STAN
Fri 03/04/2022 Paul Stanley STAN
(more to follow)
@@kentamplin Oh god Vince Neil XD
I read somewhere that Plant had vocal chord surgery around '73 to have polyps/nodules removed which likely attributed to his change in sound. There was a definite difference in his vocals especially around the Presence album period.
Definitely enjoying this series!
This is a very cool series. Some suggestions: Bruce Springsteen, David Coverdale, Paul McCartney, Sebastian Bach, Tina Turner, Aretha Franklin, Paul Rodgers, Sting, Art Garfunkel, ...
Brilliant idea for a series. Love it!
Fantastic!!!
Super cool idea to do these. Perfect way to represent what (im)proper technique does.
Very interesting comparison. I hadn't heard about his past vocal surgery. He's worked through it well even without his old signature high notes. Thanks for sharing these.
True vocal syndrome.
Definitely a legend for all time on a global scale.
Thank you very much for this very great explanation.
Rock on🤘🎶
Thanks for listening!
Love being early for these videos! Another great series Ken, rock on!
I don't care what anyone says. He's still got it. And he finds so many tasteful and musical choices now that adds so much maturity. But I love your points Ken. You know how to be fair and sure know how to give credit where it's due. I learn everytime. Thanks!
Hey Ken! ROBERT!!! One of my favorites. Definitely in my top 5, maybe 3. The Golden God. One of the best frontmen of all time. Is he the best of singers, probably not, but he still kicks major ass! I know I said this before but back in the day all the girls wanted him and all the guys wanted to be him. Long live Robert Plant and LED ZEPPELIN!!🎤💥🔥
You sure break it down. 💯 Truthfully. If I had heard the NOW version without seeing. 🤔 I would not have known... Make No Mistake. Robert Plant is Inscribed in Us music fans ... We all age..
Shout out from Fresno
Some of your "Now" samples are really from around 10 to 15 years ago! Love your channel a lot!
These are great Ken:)
Both of you are awesome!
I honestly think he sounds better now than he did in the early Zep days. I feel like he capitalized on his natural golden tone in his solo career, and it's a great sound.
Awesome Ken, i always like your honest thoughts :)
I love your honesty Ken keep up the great work
Great video, Ken! In fairness to Percy :) Always difficult to compare studio recordings (where he can come back and redo any takes ad infinitum) to live renditions (smoke filled stadiums in the day, where he is also physically moving and engaging the crowd, singing these monster songs back to back for almost 2 hours), but here are some fun facts about Robert Plant - never took vocal lessons, never ever warms up or cools down ("I haven't got the time"), was a pretty heavy smoker until the late 90s (allegedly quit during after watching Thom Yorke from Radiohead sing during the Human RIghts Concerts, was so impressed by his voice he decided to now take care of his gift). I think his more recent work with Allison Krauss showed more of his mid to low range, which is really smoky and poignant. He can still belt out a wail from time to time but as you mention Ken he never trained properly (he should have invested in KTVA) so it comes out whispy and grainy. I do think his 2007 Zep reunion concert material vindicated many of the shoddy performances of the past (the shambolic Live Aid reunion). He is not a genetic freak like Glenn Hughes or Sammy Hagar who can still crush high notes in their late 60s/early 70s, but I personally like where Robert's voice sits now. To your point, its nowhere near the vocal juggernaut it was in the late 60s/mid 70s and he should have taken better care of it to access these wonderous notes today but I don't think that's his MO, he's all about adapting to the present moment and at least we have that historic time when giants ruled the earth :) Like Swinedog712 said earlier, hard to find a better live rock concert performance than How The West Was Won.
Hello, I think you are a great & I appreciate you sharing your wisdom.
I love this
I've seen Robert Plant live 13 times. Should have been 16 but I could only make 1 of his Southern States tour in 2016 due to my moms house flooding in March that year. I planned on road tripping it from New Orleans to Mobile, Al., Jackson, Ms., Baton Rouge, La., and Shreveport, La., before heading back to New Orleans. Alas, I could only get to Baton Rouge due to the time needed to help my mother with her flooded house. Wasn't mad just disappointed but happy to help me mom. Even the drive to Baton Rouge was tough. It POURED down rain the entire ride up. Didn't matter. I was gonna get there.
My favorite artist. LOVE his solo catalog as well as all Led Zeppelin (of course). His shows are a good mix of new, for which ever album he had (has) out, Zeppelin, GREAT covers and even different versions of the same song the next night. (Saw him 3 night is a row in Austin Tx. in 2018). I've seen him sing in the heat of the day and on cool evenings. Have I seen (heard) him take off parts of songs? Absolutely. Ramble on, comes to mind. All I can say is his voice is much more refined as he's aged. He knows his limitations. It doesn't matter to me. I just love to hear the man sing. He could sing an instruction manual for operating a dishwasher and I'd listen intently, even more intently live. I love to hear him sing. Seeing him live is so much the better.
As much as I love Robert Plant, it's simply true, and he's said so himself, that his live performances were very on off. And that I think is key to understand it. If you look high and low for it, you will find live performances which were stellar, epic. Especially his pre vocal surgery performances. There was one I found in particular where they had finished recording the fourth album (the one with symbols on the cover), but where it had not yet released, and they were still opening with the Immigrant Song, and mostly performed material from the third album. That opening wail, I swear, it was an octave above the album version, and very full and masculine sounding. Still a bit nasaly sounding, but at the same time muscular and diaphragmatic in its way. Overwhelming. Whether in the studio or live, when he was on, he was on all the way. But so often when singing live, if the wind just wasn't blowing right or whatever, he would lose his way to his head voice, and would try to compensate by forcing through to it, but unsuccessfully. I know I am going long winded here, and might be testing the reader's patience, but I have a theory why this was with Robert; I think he found a particular mental/vocal space when he was intoxicated, or in a certain head space where drugs sometimes helped him to find it. And when he was there he could do practically anything. But finding the thread back to that space wasn't always easy without whatever he was associating it with circumstantially, and often times it just wasn't there for him when he sung live. Personally, I had a similar thing with my voice when I was younger. Now that I am older, I might not actually have the same strength and endurance that I did back then, but, I found a way to reach my head voice, and other aspects of my voice, more consciously, and methodically. I am more consistent in my performance and abilities. Ken's videos actually have played a role in that, so thanks to him for that help, and I never seem to lose my way in that sense any more when singing, and I am much more self aware when reaching up for those high notes especially.
No way he was singing the intro to Immigrant Song an octave above the album version
ya Zep partied hard, didnt sleep and performed the next night is why.
@ yeah that would be a c6 or so
Robert could hit that note in the early days but that was a balls out scream from hell
No way he'd be able to hold it the same way as the studio version
You’re an EXCELLENT TEACHER.
Heard Robert Plant singing when visiting Lake Tahoe in 2018 and there was an outdoor concert at Harvey's which was right next to the motel where my daughter and her friend were staying. My husband and I had the bridal suite at Zypher Cove at another part of the lake. But Plant sounded amazing to me! He sounded just like I had always heard him on the radio - and it was not exactly the same so it did seem live. I was very surprised!
Amazing job, Ken!
Thanks for listening!
I love the Then and Nows , How about DON Dokken ?
I cannot sing to save my life, but I love your videos. I grew up in Eastern Europe with the Deep Purple vs Led Zeppelin debate. My friends did play--and very well indeed. They thought Zeppelin ruled the studio and Purple ruled the stage. Very interesting to me to listen to you in AZ 30 years later and basically hear you agree. Great work, btw, keep it up!
Only two videos so far from what I see but I enjoy this series so far.
Many more to follow
Loved this look into Robert. Given what he has said about himself, you didn't say anything he hasn't said about his abilities. Great job!
One of the keys I like about how Ken teaches is learning how to belt, use distortion, power- SAFELY. What good is belting one night, and unable to sing the next? Or belting for a year or two, only to have to have vocal surgery and struggle after that? Being awesome SAFELY.... is the key for me in Ken's teaching.
SO SHWEEEETTT...much love Tee with LIONS NAMED LEO.[the music worldwide}
aaahhhh robert...
Robert plant was another awesome singer back then or back in the day Ken Robert plant is still awesome now he hasn't lost a thing at all Ken he still rocking just as good as he was rocking back then awesome live also he still is great hasn't lost a thing he still sounds great to me then and now no difference at all man he rocks👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Period!
This ‘before & after’ series is fascinating. May God continue to bless your endeavors.
Here is the entire schedule I have so far for Singers Then And Now
SINGERS THEN AND NOW SCHEDULE (STAN)
Thur 01/20/2022 Ozzy Osbourne - STAN
(Fri 01/21/2022 Trolls, Haters, And Losers)
Mon 01/24/2022 Lenny Kravitz - It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over
Tue 01/25/2022 Freddie Mercury STAN
WED 01/26/2022 Vince Neil - Motley Crue STAN
Thur 01/27/2022 Magdallan - Big Bang - Ken Tamplin Original
Fri 01/28/2022 David Lee Roth STAN
Mon01/31/2022 George Michael STAN
Tue 02/01/20225 Incredible Tips On How To Sing Better Instantly
WED 02/02/2022 Axl Rose STAN
Thur 02/03/2022 Bruce Dickinson STAN
Fri 02/04/2022 How To Sing More Than A Feeling - Boston
Mon 02/07/2022 Michael Jackson STAN
Tue 02/08/2022 Steven Tyler STAN
WED 02/09/2022 DIMASH - Adagio
Thur 02/10/2022 Ann Wilson STAN
Fri 02/11/2022 Tom Jones STAN
Mon 02/14/2022 Geddy Lee STAN
Tue 02/15/2022 Sebastian Bach STAN
WED 02/16/2022 Luciano Pavarotti STAN
Thur 02/17/2022 Andrea Bocelli STAN
Fri 02/18/2022 DIMASH - Passione
Mon 02/21/2022 Rob Halford STAN
Tue 02/22/2022 How To Sing Better Instantly Part 2
WED 02/23/2022 Singing In Different Environments
Thur 02/24/2022 Stevie Wonder STAN
Fri 02/25/2022 ELTON JOHN STAN
Mon 02/28/2022 Foreigner - Hot Blooded Kayla
Tue 03/01/2022 Ronnie James Dio STAN
WED 03/02/2022 Klaus Meine STAN
Thur 03/03/2022 Brian Johnson STAN
Fri 03/04/2022 Paul Stanley STAN
(more to follow)
Hoping for some Bono. all of these are awesome!
Love the new series. Can’t wait to hear Paul Stanley ……
I Think I know this song 🤔 great video, Ken! 😊😁
Jen xx :)
Also, you should check out really current Robert Plant - Celebration Day from the 2007 Reunion
What an icon!
Even though the Allman Brothers are my favorite band and I'm a huge fan of The Beatles, nobody does it like Zeppelin! Even at their sloppiest, they have an energy that no one can touch. That being said, I've never thought Plant a great singer live, but he is very clever in how he handles what he can't pull off. Plus, he has a charisma that is unmatched. I really liked his early solo albums. I've become an even bigger fan of his more recent Americana stuff. I think it fits his voice very well, and I really like his versions of some of those ancient songs. Both albums he has recorded with Alison Krauss are outstanding, in my opinion. Like the old saying goes, "A man's got to know his limitations." Plant seems to and works well within them.
I notice the music stays the same where gets better with technology these days. The vocals are always the thing to go.But if you love music, you love the music. Thanks for doing this ... I'm not a musician or a singer , ok maybe air guitar and singing karaoke, but love the Science and Technology behind all....
Ken, Your the John Madden of lead singers. I love your play by play. Thanks for sharing. 😎👍 peace.
Ken, your voice is so powerful too. I'm impressed
Robert is a freaking prince, he was invincible at his prime. Aww his tremendous vocal range always kills me. I lost my heart for him instantly. He still has no equal. Can't find the words to describe my love and admiration to him.💋💕💯💖💖👑💝😘
Ken, the vid is on another planet.Captivating and cognitive. Can't wait for more!
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Really good series. But the 'Now' examples are not that current, e.g. 'Since I've been loving you' performance is from 1994 :D
P.S. Do Paul Stanley next! That would be hilarious 😂
Robert Plant has had many amazing live performances. Yes , In the Zeppelin days there may have been an off key note here and there. But let’s not forget, he had vocal surgery sometime in the mid 70’s and also, he was singing live in an era where stage monitors weren’t even a thing. The sound systems of that time period were in their infancy basically. Maybe at best they may have had some side fills but it’s not like he was able to hear himself properly.
Imagine the strain it must have put on his voice trying to keep up night after night.
Very appreciated as always… and glad you took stuff from the ‘95 and ‘98 tours as this is the most appropriate source material, given how extensively he was pursuing the Zep catalogue. It’s a shame you couldn’t use live Zep from the BBC sessions to contrast. I’ll add this: there was a period of about two years Plant was pushing his voice beyond what he should have been doing… and we essentially have three Zep albums recorded during that time, as well as other songs that were but put out on later material. It’s what he’ll always been known for… and his “technique” was reckless, arrogant abandon. Hard to believe he’s my favorite singer, right??
my favorite band of all time! love robert! seen them in 1977 in seattle my favorite show....
I love how Robert has managed to remarket himself and some of the solo stuff he does, and also with Alison Krauss. I agree with you in that his later stuff is quite good vocally. My husband saw Led Zepplin live, back in the 1970's and he agreed that Robert didn't always sing high live on some of the songs as he did on the studio version. he (my hubby) was disappointed.
Glad you pursued the entire catalogue! Especially the later years (pls heart this comment)
Well done ken!
Robert plant is one of the powerful singers in those days. He's always great.
Hey Ken, another great video!!
The audioslave channel just recently uploaded studio sessions from ‘03. Would love to see you dissect Chris’s performance !!
Ooh Ken, you have some guts! People are just going to be furious at you for your honesty but I agree with you 100% like always..also I wanted to ask you if you could talk about your opinion of Mick Jagger. I just went to see them last November and I had seen them 4x before and I really thought he did a good job. Thanks so much!🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
On “Since I’ve Been Loving You” on the BBC Sessions album he takes it further than in the original. If you haven’t taken the time to listen to that one particular version, I highly recommend it, man. It’s surreal.
Yes, it's good!!!!
Age does really makes a difference and that's given. But try comparing their 1973 Madison Square Garden concert and their 2007 Celebration Day concert and you be the judge. To me, Robert Plant still did awesome. Thanks for videos and keep it up.
First tour was from 1968-1973 almost nonstop and 1975 did maybe 6-8 months of touring and they stop because of Robert’s Plant car accident and they tour again in 1977 and after a couple of months they had to stop because Robert plant lost his 5 year old son, in 1979 they did the gig in Knebworth and the 1980 warm up gigs in Europe until the death of Bonham.
This guy is clearly not a Zeppelin fan in the first place as he thinks it was a 3-piece band.
I answered this above in another thread, while it is true that Led Zeppelin toured heavily from late 68 to 73 and then in 75, this is nothing compared to how many years of touring other bands like the Rolling Stones, AC/DC and other similar bands that have been around for approximately the same amount of time
@@kentamplin yes I agree with you! It’s just that Led Zeppelin was together 10-12 years, very short life! After Bonham’s death in the early 1980 it was all over !
I saw Plant on his Ship of Fools tour. He may not have those insanely iconic Zeppelin screams and range, but he's a still an amazing singer and entertainer. Great video Ken - really enjoyed this one
Not sure when your "Now" was filmed but he looks older than that now (real now that is ;) )
Yeah, ALL of those nows were a long time ago. Now is his latest album with Allison Krauss which I love.👍👍👍
25 years old.
We comb the Internet to find what footage we are allowed to use by publishing companies so I'm using the most recent footage that CZcams and publishing companies will allow and trying to make the best of it
Ken - Plant sounded very much like the recordings from 69-71, after that his voice became strained from the touring, but he could do it live - although the black and white Danish TV show he sung a bit under and ducked notes, there are other recordings from those early years where he does not. Also the first couple of albums were recorded with very few takes, and are almost effectively live recordings.
Was going to say pretty much the same things but maybe through 72. By 73 he may have been holding back to save his voice for long tours or he knew he had become inconsistent because of damage (?). I really like his voice on Over the Hills and Far Away on HTWWW which was in 71 which matches the album version. It seemed to me there were 3 or 4 changes or versions of his voice during LZ, 69-72, 72-73, 75, 76-79.
Some of the early solo live stuff still shows a good range.
@@mattress6898 htwww was in 1972 brother
That was when his high range was on its last legs
No, they actually toured for about a decade. In fact they were asked to appear at Woodstock but their manager, Peter Grant, said no he didn't want them to be tagged as a festival band as they had done some in California that year. Instead they played at a little place in Asbury Park, New Jersey, Convention Hall on the boardwalk across the street from the Stone Pony, that weekend. Sadly I was only 9 then and didn't get to see them. They played a number of shows in 1979, a year prior to John Bonham's passing.
Fate of the nations is my personal favorite solo album by him .
..i agree.
I agree completely on Robert Plant. He gets there at the beginning of his verse then drops like he is gives up. He doesnt have the sustain but he can hit the notes at least briefly.
I havent checked but have you done one of these on Steven Tyler?
Love this series! I would like to see Billy Joel, Whitney Houston, Prince.
Would love to see one of these on Geddy Lee
Yeah, the way Geddy altered his singing of "Tom Sawyer" over the years is a master class in how to deal with aging as a vocalist.
It's coming,
Here is the entire schedule I have so far for Singers Then And Now
SINGERS THEN AND NOW SCHEDULE (STAN)
Thur 01/20/2022 Ozzy Osbourne - STAN
(Fri 01/21/2022 Trolls, Haters, And Losers)
Mon 01/24/2022 Lenny Kravitz - It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over
Tue 01/25/2022 Freddie Mercury STAN
WED 01/26/2022 Vince Neil - Motley Crue STAN
Thur 01/27/2022 Magdallan - Big Bang - Ken Tamplin Original
Fri 01/28/2022 David Lee Roth STAN
Mon01/31/2022 George Michael STAN
Tue 02/01/20225 Incredible Tips On How To Sing Better Instantly
WED 02/02/2022 Axl Rose STAN
Thur 02/03/2022 Bruce Dickinson STAN
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Before even watching, I think Plant sounds great considering all the time that has passed. Looking forward to you doing one on Bruce Dickinson and Geoff Tate..
LZ toured from late 1968 to 1977. A short tour in '80 before Bonham died. Using videos from 1995 as examples of "Now" doesn't really work for me, but I generally love what you're doing Ken and your vocal studies program has saved my butt many a gig.
Ken uses videos he's allowed to use from publishing company so he's using the best videos he is allowed to have access to use for CZcams. Ken also said 3 1/2 or four years of "actual touring time" the tours you mentioned were very short-lived. 6-9 weeks long each (with a couple small exceptions).The only "real" tour was First tour was from 1968-1973 which they toured quite a. bit (under 5 years). I believe Ken was referring to the "actual total amount of touring time" compared to a band like Bon Jovi the toured nine months out of the year for over 2 1/2 decades or The Rolling Stones which has toured for 45 plus years.
They actually toured from late 68 to mid 75 I believe. And yes that time was relentless touring. But that amount of touring is nothing compared to the Rolling Stones, AC/DC, or even Bon Jovi back in the day. My point was that compared to the iconic status they received, the amount of touring was very minimal in comparison to other bands that have been around that long. The 1995 examples of "now" is unfortunate because I'm only allowed to use certain footage from different publishing companies. Led Zeppelin and AC/DC and a few others like the Eagles are extremely strict on what they allow for use for commentary on CZcams. So I use what I can and do the best with it
I get what you mean that they might have toured less than some of the powerhouses of the day. And there's very little live video of them compared to other acts so I'm not surprised you had constraints. Just for the record, they performed over 40 dates in the US in 1977 before canceling the end of the tour when Robert Plant's young son died. It was their eleventh US tour in under 9 years.
@@greggakkerman they even did two 2 hours shows in 1970 they were wild
I don't know if it's a thing, but maybe touring, you may need to save your voice if you are singing every other night.
It surely is a contributor. All the more reason to learn to take good care of your voice if it's going to be a work horse.
He also didn't want to be a carbon copy of the records, he and the band were known for branching out live and changing things up a bit, even while still remaining true to the gist of the songs. They were absolutely brilliant live, minus any heavy drug use performances. It happened. Obviously these were not good examples of their live playing abilities.
Hey Ken. What would you recommend for a collegen powder or supplement? Thinking I need it.
Personally, I use Dr. Axe.
@@kentamplin thank you so much. I'll check it out. Seems he has a couple different types, I'll do some reading. 😎🇨🇦
Listen to him between 1968-72 when his vocals would become air raid siren he was untouchable in those years
I agree, but it's still wish they were talking about a 3 1/2 to 4 years span for someone to "be in their prime" there's no reason that he couldn't be in his prime all the way to a 70s if he applied good quality technique on a regular basis, quit smoking and drinking like a fish and took care of himself vocally
@@kentamplin yeah he is the only reason that his voice was gone I can say he is better now compared to 1973-1985
But I would say wanna hear him in his prime
1)Since I been loving you BBC 1971
2) Black dog Belfast 1971
3) Whole Lotta love any recording from 1970-1972
All these are making me feel old lol
Ken, I agree with some of the below, How The West Was Won presents Plant at some kind of peak. (Dude never properly warmed up and would have benefited from your help in that regard.)
Perhaps someday you could cover the live version of Bron‐Yr‐Aur Stomp from How The West Was Won. He nails everything and it would be great to hear your input into how he managed it.
Thanks Sir,Why not same voice at the highest pitch or notes that I like?
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Sounds like Plant should hire Ken to work with him on getting back there. He doesn't sound too far away from his old range, though its well noted that he didn't get the rest he needed on their early touring schedule.
Plant still has one of the most enigmatic vocal tones ever there. No one gets near him on that score, except Freddy Mercury, who is technically a better singer, but Plant's tone is a gift.
Hi Ken I want to ask you a question on Jon Bon Jovi I know his vocals is not good right now do you think if he takes a break for a while that he could get his vocals back because I was a saying earlier on CZcams another guy said they were talkin about and that the Panthers were not going to go to any more shows Bon Jovi it's time to retire what do you think please if you like my comment please reply back to me and let me know if it could be fixed
Hey Ken since it’s coming up to the super bowl I’d love to see you do videos on the past super bowl halftime shows. I’d love to see your reaction to princes show it was epic when the rain began to fall during purple rain
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back in time they didnt have as good vocal teachers as you. So it was almost impossible to keep the voice all the way. Still He does better than many other singers. You are great singer period.
I read an interview where he did go to lesson in Northern Italy to get higher notes easier .
I work at maintaining my voice daily. It's the only way to keep it in shape or I would end up like everyone else
One of Robert's best documented live performances is the Royal Albert Hall show on January 9th, 1970 that's on Disc 1 of the 2-disc Led Zeppelin DVD set released in 2003. He sounds incredible during that set & he ad libs quite a bit too.
Robert Plant still sounds Awesome, personally my favorite all time.
Zeppelin had nine tours between 69 and 71, then tours in 72, 73, 75, 77 and then started final tour in 79-80
A Led Zeppelin concert contained a ton of improvisation unlike the other bands you mentioned.
This is a tough one for me. Robert is one of the best Rock vocalists that’s ever been imo. And one of my favourites too. That stuff he done with Zeppelin is nothing short of Legendary. He is the bench mark for so many Rock vocalists. But I have no time for most of his solo stuff and the Alison Krause stuff, it’s just not my thing. I was so hopeful for a Zeppelin reunion tour when they done that reunion gig in the O2 London back in ‘08 (think it was). But he was the only person in The World who seemingly didn’t want it to happen, and so it didn’t. And he sounded great that night in London too, really awesome. IMO he’s been doing the solo thing long enough (early 80’s) give the world some Zeppelin. Though I know now unfortunately it won’t happen, it’s too late now.
I don't know why the musicians don't lower the tonality of the whole song, I've seen some do it, but not often. Example to lower whole guitar tune in D. Everyone should definitely do it as they get older. Why don't the whole band adjust a little to the singer, it will sound better and he will suffer less. By the way, I really like your videos, go on 🙂
Ken when first hearing then and now of Robert Plant my first though that his voice aged quite well, yes lost a litttle range and strength in the sound with training he could recover some of that lost ground but not too bad !
GreAt singer in the day
Please check out Eric Martin of Mr Big..I think he's got the most unique voice comparatively different from all the legendary rock singers especially in regard to the 80's and 90's Era of rock music..However in my opinion he is purely underrated..
Please check him out..meanwhile you're the best vocal coach I've ever come across on you tube..thank you Ken..we are indeed so blessed to have you..
More power to you 🤘
I have the greatest respect for Robert, not only for his vocal latitute but his writing also, I have to say tho, that I agree with everything you've pointed out. Ive never ever seen the big notes hit on stuff like stairway or since ive been loving you live, and actually wondered how he ever hit them in the original studio versions too..that said, even if id managed to record that stuff even once, id die a happy chappy.