How To: Convert to P-pump (p7100 Cummins)
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- A very common practice in the performance diesel world is a p-pump conversion. Also known as a p7100 injection pump. Here I run you through the basics and necessities of that swap! This is one of the more capable injection pumps ever made, for high power applications. Thanks for watching! To see more bad ass car videos, don't forget to subscribe using this link: www.youtube.com...
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P pump swap everything!🔥
Awesome stuff man. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
Priceless information. I have been wanting to do the P pump conversion forever. Worth a subscription.
Thanks for watching, commenting and the kind words! Glad it helped!
Great amount of details shared. I feel like I've just learned the secrets to the universe. Thanks.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching and appreciating it
This some top tier shit right here. I have been wanting to do this swap for a while now but I couldn't find all of the detail that I want and where to buy all the parts. Brother, I thank you for this video and all the detailed information that you added. Production value is on point.
Thank you for the compliment! Glad it helped & I hope your project is going well!
only homie that explains it well!!!
Thanks man! Glad it's valuable to ya
@@Tinman2Kustoms yeah man thanks!! I’m doing this on a 4bt, but same concept, I’ve been trying to figure it out for a while but your video made it ease, I bought the engine and it had no fuel lines with it so I didn’t even have the ve lines so Im glad you posted this thanks!!
Best video I’ve seen!
Glad to hear it! Hope it helps!
I always enjoy your videos. You make great videos which match your great mechanical work.
Dave B thanks Dave, I appreciate the compliment!!
Drive shaft for the intake, I like it👌
Thanks man :)
Why not use the cam gear push button for timing top dead center under the 'VE pump, before removing any thing....?
You can still use a cam driven lift pump, you can’t because you upgraded the cam to a style that dosent have the lift pump lobe. A stock cam has it and the p pump engines in the 94-98 trucks had a cam driven lift pump
Rocking Upgrades!!!
Have 98 24valve thinking about putting a p7100 injection pump on it what do you think this great video
Can you do this to a 1993 dodge d250
What injectors did you use? Did you use the original 1st Gen head? Was it intercooled or non intercooled? Does the bowl shape of the piston matter with different spray patterns with the p pump?
Used dynomite diesel stage 4 race injectors. Stock 1st gen non IC head in this video. Have a Hamilton street head for it. I'm sure piston shape makes a difference but you'd have to ask the p pump specialist (Farrell diesel service)
OK I see what you guys did with your conversion i am presently doing a conversion on my own with 2000 Dodge ram 1500 putting in Cummins 5.9 that I got out of a ford f700 truck but the excel cable and the kick down to mount up is give a bit of work
A Cummins in a Ford? Stock?? No way lol but the linkage is always fun!
@@Tinman2Kustoms Most of the ford straight trucks in the 90's and 00's had 5.9 cummins in them.
@@awashbowler really? Never heard of that. Ford has always been international motors I thought
Yup! They used cummins in their heavy duty trucks. Cummins has roots in much more than just the dodge truck market. You can 12 valve engines in school buses, bread trucks, tractors, equipment and generators, boats... just about anything! If you are familiar with gas engines, you will understand me when I say that the 5.9 cummins is the small block chevy of the diesel world.
@@awashbowler Oh I definitely knew they were in buses, bread trucks, tractors & equipment!!! II've helped pull them out of a lot of different things. But never heard of one in a Ford from the factory lol
I'm looking into doing a VE to P conversion, where would be the best place to get the new front cover to mount P pump?
Howard Hudson Cummins forums on Facebook, without a doubt is the best place.
off an old p pump engine
Tinman 2 Kustoms dap sells covers and case for 200$
Keifer Janz great deal. I'll have to look into those. I think I paid 325 for the oem one off of a donor truck
Nice video guys
Did you lock the VE pump, for timing purposes before removing it? Did you Pop Test the new injectors before installing them? And did you use head studs for the added boost since your running a Compound turbo setup? The Video was very good. Hamilton Cam was a definite Upgrade over the stock, I assume you used new camfollowers? Lot easier just to find a second gen and slap it in. But, to each his own. Good Job!!
Yes. VE was locked for the guy that bought it from me. The new injectors were brand new, custom built race injectors by Dynomite diesel. Each one was tested before they sent them out the door. ARP studs throughout. And yes, new hamilton pushrods & valvesprings were also added. It would have been easier to find a 2nd gen, you're right, but found the 1st gen dirt cheap and didn't think I was going to want to build the power that I ended up wanting lol so it needed a bigger pump. Thanks for watching & commenting!
how big are the elements?
Pricing?
Great video!! PERFECTION!
Doug Hopkins thank you! Glad I got all the points covered. I had so much footage and wasn't sure if I missed anything lol
Tinman 2 Kustoms lol also proved I watched it till the end! Keep them coming! I'm headed to Minnesota next week southern Minneapolis aren't you from around there?
Doug Hopkins haha awesome! I'm about an hour north of the twin cities. Sort of in the sticks ha
Tinman 2 Kustoms Damn bro you're definitely in the sticks! Good news though supposed to snow on monday.....jk.
Checked out the exiting SEMA video as well... That is impressive, is that before or after the upgrade ?
TheCanadianBubba this swap was done 2 years ago!!! I just hadn't had a chance to get to the video and kind of forgot about it for quite a while. So everything you saw in this video had already been long completed at the time of the SEMA show
I have a video of me putting 32 ounces of diesel additive into my 2001 Deville with the Northstar v8. Yes I know it is a gas engine. I wanted to see what would happen. At first I didn't notice anything. Then the engine was kinda quick. The main thing I notice was the mpg went up from 18.5 to 23. The cel came on and the code is po125. The engine is running too cool.
N/a diesel engine run cooler than gas engines. This is the reason the engine is running cool. When the additive is burn up. The engine should run normal temp again.
What does any of that have to do with this video? Lol hahaha
Mix some ATF with gas works good too.
If a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its ass when it hopped.
Great video.
Which Chuki beats song is in the intro?
I dont know even what p pump conversion means but watched the video. Can I use that on my Toyota?
Lol most likely not
Gizmoriderful Ye do you have a 5.9? Then yeah
I'm putting a 12 valve in a '96 Toyota LC.....so sure, why not.
Is that engine out of a first gen or a 2nd gen? Cool video though. Chill vibes.
Sorry I am stupid you said it was a first gen motor about halfway😂🤦♂️
Do you have a list of everything that was used to convert to p pump?
I don't think I have a list necessarily. But it's almost all in the video.
How much can you sell one of those ve pumps for
I think I got like $400 for mine
Tinman I'am trying to find a missing timing chain cover for a 1997 p7100 Cummins bought 2 off of ebay but both have been wrong. Would like to have the stamping number on the cover do you have that stored in back of your head some were. Thanks great build.
time1800 there is no timing chain on these motors... It's all gears. I believe you can buy the front "timing cover" through thoroughbred diesel though. Otherwise you might be best off hitting up the used truck parts groups on Facebook or Craigslist.
My brain typed chain just trying to find the stamping number on the p7100 cover. bought 2 that said the were the right part but were not.
time1800 well the 1989-1993 are one style and the 94-98 are another style. The 89-93 is cheaper, so I'd bet that's what you got/ordered. Best bet is finding a used one off of a parts motor. Or you can buy a billet one from any of a number of sellers. Just more $
You already had the powerstering pump off. Why not just set tdc using pin. Your going to want it closer than eyeballed when installing p pump. Or your just gonna do double the work to re-verify timing or spill port time it.
You can't rely on just the pin to hold timing either. Especially when you have different parts coming from all over the place. We checked timing off the pump after it was all installed, as well as marking the harmonic dampener at TDC when the head was off.
@@Tinman2Kustoms if you timed the engine b4 switching the gearhousing engine would be at a factory tdc minus wear on lower end components thrpwing a tad off but then all ypu wpuld have to to is move the pin and pin body to exact location on cam when reinstalling then all you have to worry about is pump. Wich is already locked in. It would simplify things a bit for the folks that want to tackle the task. Especially when likely they wont be up for tackeling learning spilport timing or even as little as getting a dial indicator out to find tdc on the piston
@@mattbleiler759 I understand what you're saying, but depending on the P-pump to be pinned/timed properly is a risk. You are best off just getting a dial indicator and doing it right, as was shown in the video.
@@Tinman2Kustoms with all do respect. Im well aware of how to properly time. I build 1complete 4bt 6bta or 6cta depending on orders. I guess what im getting at is ypur video only shows a couple indicators in a still frame with zero instructions. After earlier suggesting that you could find tdc by visual alighnment of gear stamps. Just seemed misguided. You often time pumps based on performance desires as well and simply put if engine was at factory tdc and pump pin was is shes going to be fairly spot on. That and the fact that the only right way to time is spillport. And to truely do it right it would tale you about 500 dollars to make a cart or rig with a fuel pump to do. I enjoy the video. Just think you should show them the simple way. Or the whole thing so folks dont get to misguided
@@mattbleiler759 well I don't know everything. This is how I did it and how I knew how to do it. I've never built a Cummins before this.
What’s the purpose of a p pump conversation? 🤔 mine has a ve pump
VE pump is limited in power substantially versus a p-pump. Anything over 500hp you are basically required to do this conversion. Supplies much more fuel.
I have a 98 12 valve and want to delete the stock fuel filter. I installed after market filters. Where did you get the parts and pieces for your delete?
Casey M. I'm not as familiar with the 94-98 fuel filter setup. but on the 89-93 you don't need to do anything with the stock fuel filter adapter. I just left mine alone. Everything else that was needed for plumbing either came with the airdog lift pump, or was something I could buy locally at the hardware store. Ya just gotta make it work. I doubt there is a "kit" for that
Casey M. The question is your 98 12 valve a 3500 And does it have 4x4 with tan leather seats?
Gray cloth 4x4 -79 f350 Dana 60 leaf spring conversion.
98 12 valve An f350 conversion? What are you high?
Not high, just felt like doing it. It works good.
what's mean 24 v?? because its a 6 cilindet pump and engine??
Esteban Rodriguez it has 24 valves, 4 per cylinder. The preferred is the 12 valve. For some reason. But they both are good engines...
JAMES! Since the 70's 12 valves are mechanical engines 24 valves are computer ran
@@duffman1241 you can make a 24v mechanical.
Tyler Paul quite aware of that but if your building big horse power or you want an easy swap a 12v is the way to go.
Tyler Paul you also still need to keep the ecm for your dash to work and gauges to your still dealing with a computer for the price of the swap you could rebuild a 12v
Could a p pump be put on a 6.7?
It probably could be. But I'm sure it would be expensive. Probably need a lot of machined adapters and weird parts that may not be readily available. You'd have to hit up some of the Cummins Facebook groups and see of anyone has done it. I'm not 100% sure.
You can but there is no point because the pump on a 6.7 is really good. That would be like swapping a 2jz for a rb26 motor; waste of time and money
CP3's are not bad,CP4"s are junk,i have seen a P-Pumped 6.7,talk about torque and way more reliable that the shitty fragile as crystal Common rail injectors.Cummins has p=pumped 6.7 in agg stuff
i have seen a 6.7 with a VE pump.used a redrilled VE front adapter cover,it was built to be a crazy mileage rig,
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Damn so to modify to a P-pump you pretty much got to pull the engine out huh?
To modify one? No engine doesn't need to be pulled. but to do a full conversion like this, it is probably necessary. I would. Only takes a couple hours to pull one.
learn my boy, capscrews not bolts, bolts have nuts, otherwise good job
fico bom.
Andre Magnabosco huh? Lol
Instead of a rod to hold the motor your supposed to use a special tool
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Haha yeeyee!
I want to know how to set 620 daf engine. P. Pump
DEFINITELY NOT an 95 -02. BOTH Your Tittle nor description, do not indicate WHAT SIZE OR YEAR this engine is! Is it applicable to ALL Cummins engines??????
For those reasons I giving you a THUMBS DOWN as it is not pertainant to specific keyword search terms.
Lot of work....no thanks
There's a video on another channel, where they show the procedure step by step how to adjust the p7100 pump, this guys are a waste of time, only want likes...
This video isn't on how to adjust the p7100...... Its doing a p7100 swap. If you don't understand the difference you might want to stop commenting.
Ran like shit...