Shane, these are 5 tremendous points. Thank you for sharing. I am not great on ‘prettyfying’ apps, so having it working, intuitive and easy to extend is my aim. Don’t stop your good work mate.
Excellent tips. I have this conversation with my users all the time... "yes, the app looks ugly right now, but once we're done testing and have it working properly, I'll go back and make it pretty"
As always great video Shane. We're working on getting a premium license for dataverse. As you can imagine, it is pretty expensive for a large company like American Airlines.
Thanks so much Shane, signed up for the course a month ago and really enjoying all your content in it. Trying to replicate something similar to your expense app
I would love to come to Australia. Maybe one day. Our live classes are taught online and we have had a few people from your part of the world take them. Just requires some really early mornings. :) training.powerapps911.com/collections/live
Cheers for sharing - great tips 👍 1 is very topical for me at the minute for an ongoing build. It's sitting at 23 datasources and 15 screens and I'm noticing it's starting to get a little slower opening in edit... 'shouldn't' get much bigger though, so I'm going to persevere... for now 😅
Amazing vids, thank you Shane!! Question about making multiple smaller apps vs ONE GIANT one: What if you're looking to minimize Licensing costs? A one app as a Suite (along the lines of Project Operations in D365) would be beneficial (while potentially a bit lazy). Any suggestions for figuring out the MS Licensing Arcana?
Hey Jan - Licensing does sometimes lead to making decisions we don't like. I dont have any silver bullets here for you. Kind of a just have to compare the options and make the best decision for you.
Adopt KISS as a first principle. Then see how you can simplify things as you go. Take a final pass through the project to remove unnecessary code and clutter.
Shane, thank you so much for those great tips. Your videos are a fun way to learn Power Apps. I hear so many times that Excel is te worse data base source. It breaks my heart. I am a novice so I know you guys are right. I know nothing about other data sources like Dataverse or SQL. Excel allows me to do dynamic calculations of dates and other thing which I dont know I can or cannot do in other data sources. I beleive Sharepoint is not as dynamic as Excel. Why or What are the reasons Excel is the ugly duck as data source? Thanks again.
Legend!!! What would you think of having 2 or more forms on the same screen, for instance, form1 for the text columns and form2 for date columns, then in form1.OnSuccess we write submitform(form2)... Don't be mad at me I haven't done it 😁😁 it came to my mind watching this video... Keep it up buddy
Thanks for the tips! I've reached the point where I find myself preferring patch vs forms. One of the conveniences of forms is that is becomes scrollable when you add more fields. In those situations where there are a lot of controls/data cards, would you use the scrollable screen control, containers, or use multiple screens?
Thank you, always good to remind. Would you have the same advise set to ensure/improve flow performance. My flow take ages compare to same process in vba Excel.
thanks for your valuable videos . I just want to share my experience, one time i have used Sharepoint as a data source , and then I exported the data which came from powerapps to CSV , but unfortunately the data looked like HTML , then I made new sharepoint list which coming from excel , and somehow it worked ,so somehow the excel is just good . Sorry for the bad coherence :( .
Amazing video, thank you for sharing! How can a person who wants to learn power apps by creating something simple obtain a license? Maybe there is a way to create a free account with power apps?
I get the dont build too big an app, I thought that might be the case, but have you noticed that with Native apps, MS are recommending bundling apps together ? Considering its just a wrapper over the same web code, sounds like advice to take with a pinch of salt 🙂
I work with a group of people who only see what is put in front of them.I've had projects dismissed immediately because a border was the wrong colour. If they have no imagination, it is impossible to given them a functional but visually incomplete app because they are stupid and don't appreciate the work that goes on in the background to deliver the functionality that the app needs. The moral: Know your audience.
Hey Shane, love the content. I'm wondering if you have any features you can think of that may help me. I'm currently developing a Center of Excellence for my company (we focus mostly on ERP migrations for smaller municipalities), including apps for our RAID log, an app that collects meeting minutes and automatically saves and mails out a formatted word document with those notes, and a document quick-search using a custom connector to SharePoint. At this point, I'm sort of running out of ideas, but I'm in no way an expert. I'm hoping you have some advanced features ideas that may help me add some more useful features to our CoE.
Hi Shane when we need multiple screen for a app, do you still say using form is not recommended ? I have about 10 tables for my app and about 20 columns in each list. If i do not use forms , i need to drag and set multiple controls also displaying data back from SharePoint is easier on forms. Can you advise of there a better way to control with patch in such scenarios ?
Shane, do you think it is better to have 1 environment for 1 app, especially if that app has 10 tables, or throw all tables to all apps in the one environment?
Shane, these are 5 tremendous points. Thank you for sharing.
I am not great on ‘prettyfying’ apps, so having it working, intuitive and easy to extend is my aim.
Don’t stop your good work mate.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent tips. I have this conversation with my users all the time... "yes, the app looks ugly right now, but once we're done testing and have it working properly, I'll go back and make it pretty"
Oh I so understand your pain points: function always over form, reserved words, spaces, dataverse!! :)
Yes! Thank you!
As always great video Shane. We're working on getting a premium license for dataverse. As you can imagine, it is pretty expensive for a large company like American Airlines.
Good reminders even for seasoned makers!
Thanks. Hope all is well with you. :)
Thanks so much Shane, signed up for the course a month ago and really enjoying all your content in it. Trying to replicate something similar to your expense app
Fantastic Liam! I hope you are having a great day.
Thanks! With Power Apps for Teams you have Dataverse included withouth Premium Licence 🎉
Thank you Shane for these awesome tips
Always happy to help you ☺️
Like the game of Go (WeiQi) ... It's recommended to go back to the roots! Thanks for this!
You're welcome! One of my kids loves penguins so nice photo. 😎😎
HA ha ha. I love spaces too! Especially the ones between words. 😅
Great video as always Shane. You are the real MVP!
I appreciate that!
Hi Shane, Great video as always!!
Wish you were in Australia so I could take some live courses with you!
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I would love to come to Australia. Maybe one day. Our live classes are taught online and we have had a few people from your part of the world take them. Just requires some really early mornings. :) training.powerapps911.com/collections/live
Tks.. Really interesting...
Glad you liked it!
Cheers for sharing - great tips 👍 1 is very topical for me at the minute for an ongoing build. It's sitting at 23 datasources and 15 screens and I'm noticing it's starting to get a little slower opening in edit... 'shouldn't' get much bigger though, so I'm going to persevere... for now 😅
Right with you on the pretty apps. When I get asked to make cosmetic changes to an app that add no value it feels such a waste of time.
We are the same Phil. 🥰 Maybe it is because we are already so good looking? 😜
Amazing vids, thank you Shane!! Question about making multiple smaller apps vs ONE GIANT one: What if you're looking to minimize Licensing costs? A one app as a Suite (along the lines of Project Operations in D365) would be beneficial (while potentially a bit lazy). Any suggestions for figuring out the MS Licensing Arcana?
Hey Jan - Licensing does sometimes lead to making decisions we don't like. I dont have any silver bullets here for you. Kind of a just have to compare the options and make the best decision for you.
Hey Shane can you do a video end to end offline mode app using guid function also
I think this video did that? czcams.com/video/NwbqdA9j8Ek/video.html
Adopt KISS as a first principle. Then see how you can simplify things as you go. Take a final pass through the project to remove unnecessary code and clutter.
I like it George! 👍
Shane, thank you so much for those great tips. Your videos are a fun way to learn Power Apps. I hear so many times that Excel is te worse data base source. It breaks my heart. I am a novice so I know you guys are right. I know nothing about other data sources like Dataverse or SQL. Excel allows me to do dynamic calculations of dates and other thing which I dont know I can or cannot do in other data sources. I beleive Sharepoint is not as dynamic as Excel. Why or What are the reasons Excel is the ugly duck as data source? Thanks again.
I made a whole video. 😎 QTT - Power Apps Excel is a terrible data source
czcams.com/video/RtmZM3tm2Zs/video.html
@@ShanesCows thanks Shane for the link. I'll watch it.
Legend!!! What would you think of having 2 or more forms on the same screen, for instance, form1 for the text columns and form2 for date columns, then in form1.OnSuccess we write submitform(form2)... Don't be mad at me I haven't done it 😁😁 it came to my mind watching this video... Keep it up buddy
You can do it. Sounds terrible but should work. :)
Thanks for the tips! I've reached the point where I find myself preferring patch vs forms. One of the conveniences of forms is that is becomes scrollable when you add more fields. In those situations where there are a lot of controls/data cards, would you use the scrollable screen control, containers, or use multiple screens?
Thank you, always good to remind. Would you have the same advise set to ensure/improve flow performance. My flow take ages compare to same process in vba Excel.
I definitely don't build giant flows but their size doesn't usually cause challenges. Usually with flows it is too many API calls. 😑
thanks for your valuable videos . I just want to share my experience, one time i have used Sharepoint as a data source , and then I exported the data which came from powerapps to CSV , but unfortunately the data looked like HTML , then I made new sharepoint list which coming from excel , and somehow it worked ,so somehow the excel is just good . Sorry for the bad coherence :( .
Glad it worked for you. :)
Thank you for doing these videos
My pleasure! Thanks for watching. :)
Amazing video, thank you for sharing! How can a person who wants to learn power apps by creating something simple obtain a license? Maybe there is a way to create a free account with power apps?
Anna check out the community plan powerapps.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/communityplan/
Hi Shane, just a quick note, does patch function now allows to include attachments to a list?
Patch doesn't have a way to do Attachments. :( You would need to do something like this czcams.com/video/K74UFYgrKB4/video.html
I get the dont build too big an app, I thought that might be the case, but have you noticed that with Native apps, MS are recommending bundling apps together ? Considering its just a wrapper over the same web code, sounds like advice to take with a pinch of salt 🙂
I think since they are bundled but separate it would be okay. But I haven't dug into the wrapper stuff at all... yet. :)
I work with a group of people who only see what is put in front of them.I've had projects dismissed immediately because a border was the wrong colour. If they have no imagination, it is impossible to given them a functional but visually incomplete app because they are stupid and don't appreciate the work that goes on in the background to deliver the functionality that the app needs. The moral: Know your audience.
Sorry Stuart for your troubles but a good tip. 😎
Thanks for the tips Shane. I have created a Power App in Teams and I heard that I shouldn't be using components in Teams. Is this true?
I haven't heard you shouldn't use components, but I do know component libraries don't work. Hmmm
Re dataverse - for a large org (gov agency) - the hundreds who will use the form: will they need dataverse license/access?
Yes. If DataVerse is the datasource it makes the app premium. Then every user of the app will need a premium license.
@@ShanesCows thank you!
Hey Shane, love the content. I'm wondering if you have any features you can think of that may help me. I'm currently developing a Center of Excellence for my company (we focus mostly on ERP migrations for smaller municipalities), including apps for our RAID log, an app that collects meeting minutes and automatically saves and mails out a formatted word document with those notes, and a document quick-search using a custom connector to SharePoint. At this point, I'm sort of running out of ideas, but I'm in no way an expert. I'm hoping you have some advanced features ideas that may help me add some more useful features to our CoE.
Thanks let me give you a challenge display version history of a dataverse database in a canvas app.
Wow. I haven't tried that one before. Sounds no fun.
Hi Shane, Is there any way to delete desktop flows through powershell or powerautomate?
Finally found a job where they gonna let me build stuff on power platform all day.
Awesome! Enjoy it. 😎
Hi Shane when we need multiple screen for a app, do you still say using form is not recommended ? I have about 10 tables for my app and about 20 columns in each list. If i do not use forms , i need to drag and set multiple controls also displaying data back from SharePoint is easier on forms. Can you advise of there a better way to control with patch in such scenarios ?
Shane, do you think it is better to have 1 environment for 1 app, especially if that app has 10 tables, or throw all tables to all apps in the one environment?
Unfortunately to add, if your ICT team allows Box rather than SharePoint or OneDrive, Excel is the only data source option!
This is unwatchable. You are constantly blinking like you are sending morse code.
Put a post note over my face? I was pretty sick when I made the video I guess that was a side effect. You are the first to say anything. Sorry