The Warhammer Update Scandal Got WORSE
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I love the Idea of the game but with shipping from the US not UK friendly hubs means high shipping costs plus VAT and fees if the post office feels like it makes it quite unafordable :(
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Until GW
a) goes under
B) sells the IP in total to a known company who loves the game
or
C) starts allowing all old minis to be used
My wallet stays closed.
Simple as.
Same
This is why I dropped GW and started playing Onepagerules. Free rules, free army builder, points builder for models and units, and I use every mini I own.
who stops you using your old minis? even if you play an older edition of the game, no one is stopping you. just don't go to a Warhammer world tournament or one of the official ones in the US if you are there. if GW goes under then your wallet stays shut anyway? good win! and no other company is going to stump up the cash for 40k.
@@warp5p1d3r6 this is what i do. still in 7th minus the deathstar cheese formations.
@@ImperialDiecast yeah exactly. Play what you want. No need to go into different editions if you don't like them.
It’s so insulting that after buying the rule book and codex’s they are now completely useless.
Welcome to the club.
Made that mistake around 8th.
Never again
This card deck didn't effect any codex or the rulebook. It's matched play rules for tournaments on top of the base game. The accompanying optional rules update touched one codex in any significant way, and it was one people have been begging to be changed since it's release last year.
Why do people pretend to be upset about a game they don't play?
Because they wanna be part of the flock. People will complain about everything. I’ve seen people complain about their codex only for it to be meta af
Just stop buying it then. I stopped years ago. If I want to play I sue my old stuff. Screw these asshats.
Even before Pariah Nexus you did already need a mission deck to play, you know that right?
My theory is the 40k rules writers think they have to remain relevant to the higher up's. They come into work and immediately change some rules "Look Boss, We made some changes to the changes" They remind me of the coke head at the party that suggests going kayaking at 4 in the morning.
The best explanation I've heard yet on why they will never solidify stats on what a baseline Guardsmen should be and forming stats for every other unit around how they compare. A reliably consistent baseline would put them out of a job
4 am kayaking is pretty sweet though.
sure it does
@@chillywilly883until we run out of coke and energy, in international waters
That makes perfect sense- that’s what every single Lieutenant in the Army does.
Come one, the whole 10th has been a disaster, we don't need a patch for that. Deleting tons of units and the whole forge world army ranges, taking away player agency i how they want to build their army by fixing squad sizes and making those idiotic locked weapons on many squads, where you are not even allowed to pick your gear, taking away the complexity and joy of tinkering on your roster with by removing sub-faction. The whole 10th has been a cesspool since the very begining. To be fair, global rulebook rules seem fine because they make playing itself a bit faster and things like how terrain works is not more clear, but a lot of index/codex rules are badly worded and people ask how things work on reddit and discords all the time.
Also everyone gets lethal wound and sustained hits as their go to buffs. All armies seems VERY similar to each other these days and it sucked all the atmosphere and soul out of the game. I remember good old times of 5th edition, where atmosphere was so heavy, you would make rolls for your Chaos Lord heroic deeds to see which one out of like 60 chaos mutations he would gain as a boon. There is nothing like that these days. 9th was very fun for me, 8th I liked, but 10th is the edition I'm skipping. Tried a few games and it's not enjoyable anymore.
Even new editions are referred to as "a tax to keep playing with the stuff you already have."
I do not understand the people who buy from this company regularly. I gave up on them long ago, and I'm wealthier in coin and in life because I moved on.
Amazing how you find a scandal every two weeks without fail… 😂
with out it she would not have a channel. always doom and gloom.
@@Daemonforge666 this! The channel only survives on negativity, and the algorithm loves it. It's what mediocre people do.
Yes seems to be a talent… but it’s strangely entertaining 😂
And then spend nine minutes using dogshit analogies to pimp up the run time before getting to the actual point
Which usually isn’t that bad
It's funny when you check her videos page, every thumbnail has her in the same position and a disaster scandal text next to her 😂
That being said I think she's funny, if not very informative.
I don't like that the three year release window. I don't want to buy $400.00 worth of books every 3 years. How about every 10 years? With Minor updates and new objective games or something like Killzone for smaller variant games updated using the current models within that 10 year period for the larger game. I don't mind buying new models, I don't want soon to be useless rule books.
omg the pirate ad 🤣🤣
The eeej of seal!
No wonder One Page Rules is taking off ... OPR legitimately brought me back into wargaming, not 40k.
I also made my own edition of 40k I titled 41st millennium.
You can find it on my wiki called:"Dark Heresy of the Secundus sector"
Same! I floated around the fringes of 40k since 6th ed, but played as far back as 2nd. I stopped in 9th, till finding OPR.
Same for me bro. Weaponising rules for money ain't for me
It's a blend of "Season" and "Building faulty products to ensure they need to buy new stuff."
I have a Warhammer store less than half a mile from my home. I was so excited. I bought the newest rules. I bought a Combat patrol box. I bought a Codex. 6 months later we were given for free the 10th edition. Shocked face!!! (I tried to get into GW back around 3rd Edition and said never again). To hear that they have created a 10.5...not shocked. When I went to talk to my "friendly" local gamestore owner...I found out he he isn't so friendly. I spent over 300 USD in one fell swoop. I hadn't even painted my minis! Frankly I don't even like the rules that much I just wanted to find a wargaming group. I refuse to participate in the corporate greed that is modern GW (same as the old GW) or D&D.
If you still have the 3rd edition rulebook, codices and an army, I bet you could, with a little bit of effort, find people to play 3rd edition with. I do from time to time, and it's a blast!
I can only really fault GW for one thing here, and that is having one foot in the future and the other in the past. The second they stop printing their rules physically and going full digital, all of this clamoring stops.
If they didn't make a new mission deck, people would complain the game gets stale (people did)
If they didn't invalidate codex points costs by doing much needed balance changes, people would complain (they did)
If they didn't change core rules as written, cause people found out ways to abuse them after millions of collective games, people would complain (they do)
Damn near everything but model prices can be fixed with subscription based digital rules and an app that makes for a genuine game companion to keep track of missions & score with, fixing every one of the problems mentioned above. And you know what? People would still find reasons to complain. xD
3rd edition was 'compleat'. Its sort of gone, but I started then and still havent got all my minis fully painted.
Gw make cool minis, sweet fluff and arse rules. Divorce your interest from their rules.
@@maxmagnus377 It was stolen when I was in the service along with much of my collection of Rpgs and Wargames.
@@MINDYOUROWNBUISINESS3rd is my favorite edition. I left Gw and started playing OPR for this reason. I actually love tabletop gaming again.
@@colerape Sux that it was stolen.
Which country you in and how much are you missing, cousin?
GW's WH40K lost me a while ago. 9th edition was plagued by Codex bloat and inbalance, 10th edition is plagued by... 10th edition. Rules are plagued, starter kits are plagued, battleforces are plagued, business model is plagued.
There's so much plague around I'll call it Nurgle edition from now on.
I haven't seen the need to update since 6th edition which was okay. It wasn't so bad it needed 4 more replacements.
Like did they fuck up the first 5 times? Do we really want to give them MORE money?
This is why I dropped GW and started playing Onepagerules. Free rules, free army builder, points builder for models and units, and I use every mini I own
I am glad I stopped using their stuff, but I miss the art and stories.
I used to get almost every codex and rulebook I could because of the lore and art. Then the price went up, we got less, and finding the rare time I could play the rules had already become outdated. Just no point in continuing.
It's a very different setting, (and honestly it's quite a lot darker in tone than 40k), but have you taken a look at Malifaux? It has fantastic art and very extensive fluff told via stories.
While Wyrd does sell these in physical form in their rulebooks, they also produce very well voiced podcast readings of them (search for the Breachside Broadcast) and several youtube channels also discuss the lore from various perspectives if you're interested in seeing what it's like.
play Necromunda and OPR instead 💪
All codex are copy paste of the previous one, there's no new lore
Sadly new codexes doesn't even get a good art like it used to, most of pictures are reused stuff from older times or those cheap corpo efficient pictures lacking details and portraying 1 guy, because they don't do big battefield scenes anymore. It downgraded so much, I feel like I'm looking into souless "product" right now. What's even more annoying is that rules are done not to show the atmosphere of a faction but for tournament use strictly, where things are gamey and bland, because it's not about the setting, it's about playing efficiently. Tournament players are like less than a 1% of 40k population, and it happens with the cost to the rest of people who just want to enjoy the game together with bunch of their buddies.
Yeah I was the same, started from Rogue Trader, moved onto 2nd Edition then played until 5th I think it was. Just seemed like the Workshop would find new and unholy ways to fleece their loyal fans on a regular basis, got sick of it in the end.
At this point I'm having to ask, which scandal in particular?
She's complaining about Pariah Nexus cards. There's no scandal.
It’s a tribute to the Algorithm.
At this point, the scandal is that GW is still in business.
I honestly never understood this tactic GW has of gatekeeping it's own customers and fans. With raising prices and FOMO model I stopped years ago playing, painting and buying minis. Then came the FOMO on the books and codexes and I refuse to pay scalpers. So honestly now I just pirate the audio books and enjoy what I can.
Don't get me wrong I make pretty decent money but I can't be a PC gamer, MTG player, Warhammer 40k player and support my family at the same time. Maybe it's time to sell my daughter.
GWs problem is they set their goals to each item has to make x amount of money so they keep making less and charging more. As long as they have whales and scalpers buying up product much of which is sold out during preorder at the end of the day they don't care they made their share holder money.
I don't have time to look at the cards, I still have to read 33 pages of Core Rules Updates and Rules Commentary, in a language that is not my native language.
The vast majority of 40k games i have played have been battles to the death, or self-made narrative games.
GW is caught in the pushing the content forward for the minority of players who can afford to buy and pay for someone to paint for them the latest meta armies or units.
It's like MMO games where most of the players are just playing it at a comfortable pace for them, while the few hardcore players have finished the latest game update in a day and then asking for more.
GW Corporate Poobah: "How many times can we get the customers to re-buy."
GW Grot: "Yes."
GW Corporate Poobah: "Issue a new version... and raise prices. Where are we on GW as a subscription (GWaaS)?"
Sure, boss, our tests with miniatures that destroy themselfes after a couple of months look quite promising...
The worst part is, as someone who has already sunk way, way, waaay to much money into the hobby - if they simply made rules part of the subscription, and made the app actually work when playing the game, I would subscribe. But they won't, so I won't.
Whilst I do get deeply saddened when my Core Rulebook is immediately invalidated by the first rules pack that drops, the cards don't particularly bother me. The same thing happened in Age of Sigmar with the General's Handbook releases, and usually, I'd played so many games with each one that discovering a new focus (monsters to troops to wizards etc) meant I got to play my army in new ways. A lot of my friends have played hundreds of games of Leviathan, and they're similarly looking forward to a fresh take to change up army composition. For players who play a bit less (me included), enough of the cards are the same that realistically the learning curve is minimal. Additionally, if you're someone who mainly plays with the same person or same group of people, only half of you actually need to buy the deck. A good way to provide yourself a truly balanced experience, particularly when there are a few decks out, is to roll a D6 or a D3 when you turn up to your game. On a 1-3 you're playing Leviathan, and 4-6 you're playing Pariah Nexus, or 1 Leviathan, 2 Pariah Nexus, and 3 whatever the next iteration is. I'll certainly be doing that for casual games - you really do have to build a balanced army for all eventualities that way!
Good to see Games Workshop making it even harder for newbies to enter 40K.
I remember when I took the plunge and ordered online an Imperial Guard army (forking out a good $300AUD) to start my new hobby journey. I had spent a few weeks researching which faction I wanted the rules etc. They never arrived. What arrived was an email from the independent online store advising GW had just established a trade embargo preventing online stores from online
selling GW products to folk in another country. My reaction -
"Screw you GW - I will play something else!"
Some years later Star Wars Legion drops and in I dove. And what a bonus - a game operating from an online living document rulebook -who would have thunk it in the internet age!
So great work GW - their motto should be "GW - driving players into buying competitor's minis since the 1980's"
It’s sad, as a long time player, we went from rare codex updates (ie 3rd ed dark eldar) and a slower edition change where all they needed to do were rules FAQs and a better job keeping codexs updated (which wasn’t great but you at least had time to “get good” with the army/models you had) to this nonsense FOMO/Meta chase, dumbed down rules, huge power creep/codex disparity and blink before you miss it edition changes.
I love the IP (mainly before the return of Gulliman), the stories and lore but I just can’t help but feel that with each year the soul of the game fades more and more.
It’s maybe a little sad but my favourite memories of the game come from friendly beerhammer games where the impossible happened, like the tau firewarriors (from when they first came out) beating a blood thirster to death in CC after it changed them and wiffed all its attacks or the time where my imperial guard sergeant passed his bionics rolls for 3 straight turns to get back up and keep fighting a unit of space marine bikers, eventually killing them all but the attached Chaplin.
These tales and more were passed around my gaming group for years, but I rarely if ever hear these types stories anymore from the 40k players (many are younger,newer players with the veterans moving on).
I can’t help but think that the state of the game has taken some of the fun away from them and we are all worse for it.
Sorry for the old man rant 😅
Are you secretly me? Sounds like me.
@@Daemonik I don’t think so but maybe
I love the IP, but can't even keep up with all the story updates spread across codexes, books, etc. add to that the loss of FW models and 'Legends stuff' and m out. Luckily, I found Onepagerules and actually enjoy pushing models around again.
You are the only journalist that actually criticises GW this harshly, and I think that others should follow your lead rather than just shrug and accept the changes, even though we have been considerably worse off since 10th started.
I actually think GW are looking to move to a subscription model for the game. You get all the rules, including a certain number of codices for different tiers, with the highest unlocking them all. Once all the books are out for 10th, they'll rapidly switch to 11th, keep the books, but adjust the rules to justify the new edition. This sort of rapid updating of the rules isn't just a by-product of them rushing out 10th early (which they did), but is actually closer to a model they would like to try. Why do I suspect this?
Well, one thing that subscription services do so much better than the old method is hook in new players with obscene deals. That new Combat Patrol magazine with Hachette is basically doing that, but for minis. Well, guess what, if you commit to a year or two year subscription to a faction, get the codex, and then get the models with it, you can play for that length of time! Updates free! Except that you've just committed to something that costs more than a high-end smartphone every month. The models are yours to keep! And the price comes down significantly if you only want the codex subscription afterwards! And this ties in nicely with all of the cross media promotions they've been doing. WH40K in other games, loads of merch with other companies, and even that Amazon show. That isn't for us. That's for the normies that never played the game or had any interest in the brand. But 9th was waaaaay too complicated, so 10th became dumbed down. Why do you think we use Power Level 2.0? We never wanted it. We knew it would make the rules too hard to balance. It's why no other system does it. And that's why the books have been so poor, trying to make rules fit strict points values when they had freedom and flexibility before. That means either wide points adjustments, or rewriting the entire codex again (Ad Mech, anyone?).
So what next? How to combat this? How do we make it clear that we hate this, and don't want to engage with such abysmal practices? Simple. Play something else. But other minis. Make our own 40K rules based on the best aspects of each era and edition. I'm standing up to them, and you should too!
Step 1 is to realize you're in a barely-vocal minority. This is the first video saying anything negative about the situation at all.
Wahapedia is still a good option, if they move to digital, but continue to scam people by moving to a subscription model.
If 10th is "too hard to balance" then why does tournament data suggest that 10 th is the most balanced the game has ever been?
thats quite the pointless fan fiction
You should watch the outer circle if you want people who give fair and balanced criticism for GW products
I just wrote my own rules
This is why I'm teaching Learn-to-Play Kill Team at conventions. Few models to buy, fewer rules. And you can play with virtual cards on your phone and poker chips for order counters.
Between GW, Catalyst and WotC; I'm just going to play with my old edition material that I already own. Any minis I can 3D print at this point for a fraction of the price. Good bye ideologues and corporatists, I don't need you and refuse you access to my wallet.
Another shameless GW money grab.
Worse part is the recent balance changes were made in relation to the new mission deck further cementing the need to keep up and buy in if you want to play a fair and balanced game.
This is why I'm going with OPR when I get started on tabletop soon
All the Ya-Harr I can muster, you say? Nice.
The technical term is: SHITSHOW.
It might be my old brain but didn't they name a kill team expansion pariah nexus like 3 or 4 years ago?
Lazy, confusing naming conventions if that's the case.....
You don't keep up on the lore at all 😂
@jtowensbyiii6018 nope....but just saying as a casual consumer its a tad confusing that's all
So you've also never read a story that had events take place in different areas?
@Optix334 I understand that but having the same product name for different products is a strange decision that's all
@@SpymasterGaming it's not the same product name? Like yes they use the same two words, but it's not really possible to mix up the 6-years out-of-print "Kill Team: Pariah Nexus" with the brand new "Chapter Approved: Pariah Nexus Mission Deck".
The names are totally different, and are for different games entirely. They also explain exactly what each is for. The only way you mix them up is if you literally see "Pariah Nexus" and blind buy it while being totally unaware of any context for either one of the separate games that the products apply to.
As an aside, this kind of weirdly involved ignorance is why this video even exists. The names are the same because of the ongoing story. The only way you don't know is if you stopped following the universe for 7 years, and don't play either 40k or Kill Team.There's literally no controversy here and people are mostly happy with the rules update.
I didn’t know this was a thing. Thanks for the heads up.
lol “I usually brought a knife to guarantee I won” - THE SERRATED SISTER!
Yeah this isn't at all accurate to the situation. Its a tiny minority of people who actually plays the game that is upset at this. Most players find the changes good.
Edit: Lol I replied to 4 people pointing out how this is literally just not an issue, and all but one of the replies were removed. Way to prove the point.
So according to what you said, you spammed the same message that this issue is not an issue by saying not many people think its a problem, your replies don't show up and that is proof that your opinion is correct? The logic is the same as your facts, non-existent.
The mission deck barely contains any changes, it's $35 dollars for something I essentially already own with the leviathan mission deck. It's a straight scam.
how is the mission deck required for "default" play? It's only "required" for competitive/tournament play. You can keep playing leviathan missions for casual games (or even older missions from previous codices/mission packs - just using 10ed rules).
Because competitive-lite has always been the default for pickup games with randoms. Casual play where you play with old rules only happens when you have an established game group, which isn't very 'casual'.
No point in telling her. She is almost always taking the micky out of the whole situation while being disingenuous/misleading in what she is saying in her videos.
If you are looking for truth, find another channel.
If you like a laugh, keep coming back here.
@@AvalonRegarnishedexactly this. Everyone acts like we all have friends that play Warhammer. No one I know likes Warhammer and thinks it's boring, I have to play at the local hobby stores with randoms, unless we both agree on playing something different we're playing the current rules and deck.
A grass roots solution: have each player group and independent stores standardize rules and play casually .
a new mission deck once a year or so to fix/update/add missions/deployments/rules is a pretty good thing in my eyes it keeps the game fresh.
Sure if they actually make some notable changes. Charging $35 dollars for minor tweaks is a joke.
How to be relatively compatible to GW changes:
1. Have a Killteam army.
2. Magnetise all weapons (even torso if you have to)
Ooh. You mean the scenario pack has a "one page rules" option?
This is all stuff that should be a free pdf and/or free on the app
This is what I keep telling people as everyone seems to want it as a subscription for some reason?
I've never had an issue with this. Both my local game stores, we get a couple copies that everyone shares that the store buys, so it doesn't come out of our pockets.
Gate of Antares second Edition is free to download and most minis are still available as well as an growinig STL library. Its still a very good Bolt Action is space.
Funny enough @Discourse Minis i was not aware that the deck i have has this little pamphlet you just presented... and I was about to play my first 40k game in 10th edition the day after tomorrow. THANK YOU for making me aware that there is a better way to play the game other than the core rule book version.
Backed Port Royale, it looks great
Pirate ad lines up with me pirating some rules bahahaha
Oh my god, a company that wants to make money. Outrageous!
I do enjoy card mechanics in games - up until I realize I need to print a couple of erratas, but not being sure which I need since the last time I printed errata, and realizing I need to now sleeve the rest of the cards so the errata'd cards are not obvious.
This sounds like you don’t go to tournaments 10 months into a mission deck’s life.
Wow, that ad read was... amazing. who knew a beard would work so well for you?
LOL, thanks for the fantastic transition into the kickstarter plug.
Don't play 10th or even 9th rules. My group plays 3rd or 4th edition rules. Just use the modern models...no issues, and low cost....plus the rules are far far superior. I dont understand why anyone would wilfully allow themselves to be financially exploited in this way. If we treated old grandpa at the care home this way, it would be termed elder abuse and we would get the jail!
One rulebook, army supplement Codex and the modeling aspect...
I know I always love it when a company decides for me that it's tome for me to give them more money. Definitely doesn't make me want to plan a terrible vengeance.
It's the same rule that always applies to Warhammer. Play the Edition you want with the people you like.
Games Workshop is just trying to make a "subscription" mode for their rules. As long as players buy their rule books and supplements, they will continue.
Games Workshop is a miniatures company. Because there are a jillion different models in production... this requires a jillion convolutions in their rules so specific figures have a point to their existence.
"very Discourse Minis" 😂
500 dollar army? You must mean a 400 dollar 3D printer and 100 dollars worth of resin?
My favorite game ever was pitting iron warriors (pre-generic chaos undivided change) against a guy with a space wolf army he inherited from someone - it was close, we was both new to the game and just had pure fun, no politics or trashtalk, just teaching each other the finer details of the game and our individual armies. Sadly, we never saw each other again and there was a suspiciously similiar army on ebay the next week :(
A close second was same army vs orks that basically went down to 2 termies vs a wartrukk - he'd tank shock, i'd miss with power fists due to disadvantage and after a couple of rounds of back and forth, we agreed to call it a draw 🤣 I miss those days tbh.
To be blunt isn't it all just getting worse
Eh 10th needed new mission and what to fix it.. though you can use mission cards from 9th and actually fixes some issues on balance with the sudden death cards for the underdog teams.
Proly can find a set in a store on clearance stil
Sooo... I'm just going to continue to play home games every few months and ignore most rules updates, like always. They've been doing this "seasons" crap in Age of Sigmar for forever, and it took me all of five seconds to understand that it's something I need to ignore.
When the pirate costume came out, I thought this video was going into a different direction.
It really feels like they are catering to people who play all the time. I want to play, but I get too overwhelmed by the rules and special rules, then the updates to all the interactions to the rules etc. I've just resigned myself to a collector/painter.
I'm old enough to remember when a new 40k box was €50, and you got two (small) armies (around 500pts) and a rule book.
I've wanted to get back into 40K, but the entry cost is just ridiculous. I mean, where do you even start nowadays? You buy the starter box and then need to purchase additional booklets/cards just to have the latest rules actually to play a game.
I'm so up for some role-playing now! Ty babe x
Todd Howard approves this new pack of cards. Nothing is more appealing to Big Corp. than getting the consumer to rebuy the same product repackaged as something new repeatedly over the course of a few years (or even a decade). Side note: we need more videos with the pirate in them 🏴☠️⛵️🌊🏝
So tired of this rules churn.
I feel like this entire rant misses the point that you play whatever version of the game your opponent agrees to. Nothing is mandatory and only you and your opponent decide what’s default and what you want to play.
500$... you wish. I have a list for guard with around 2000p based on THREE of the combat patrols. I'd pay 740€ with a 20% discount.
I bought Leviathan on release and I still haven't gotten around posting an actual game. Some card deck doesn't bother me at all, since I simply don't have to use it. And thankfully I'm in it for the hobby more than gaming.
Like Captain Picard said in First Contact, " The line must be drawn here. This far no further!" Just stop buying it. Say: "this is all the changes to the game we will accept. Stop making what we already bought like decks, codex, box sets irrelevant, because we are done being milked like cattle." If you really believe this is anti-consumer, if you are tired of sinking more money into incompatible supplements, if you are drowning in updates that have less time between release then the last time you blinked then stop buying it.
I’m currently figuring out how to update my books with an easily sticky note style glue… and also I saw a video that shows you what to update on the new nexus cards and it was quite simple actually
Care to tell me what to search to find that video? I don't fancy wasting money on the new mission deck for a couple of minor tweaks.
I bought the new Age of Sigmar box to get started with the game and at this point in Games Workshop's history it feels like betting €200 on horse racing
Did you really complain that in the war game with objectives you need to hold, you can win by holding objectives?
500 for a army wtf , a combat patrol is like $300 to 400 these days in australia
Spoiler alert: you don't have to buy it.
This is exactly why I quit 40k
Folks, guess from the title what this is about. Is it about the 'Warhammer scandal' part 4 (of the past 12 videos)? Is it about models, or rules, or just GW being greedy, we don't know because it's a vague clickbait title: it could be on something that was announced yesterday, it could be something announced 2 weeks ago. We don't know: it has the exact same photo of discourse with their hand on their head in the thumbnail as the last video.
I write this, not as a 'hater' of the content - I love the pro-consumer vent, the sketches were really funny (when was the last one?) - but jeez, I can't bare the clickbait. It's insult to 'is this worth you're time? Click to find out!'. It's as anti-consumer as GW. GW wants my money, clickbait wants my time - the two being somewhat exchangeable. It's so disappointing, there is some great content on this channel, but the titles are so vague as to be off-putting, and the intros so generic I don't know if this is a 'oh hey, this company has done something genuinely awful and I'm going to learn something' or just mediocre 'hey, GW are capitalist shills which you've already heard from everyone else over the past days-weeks'.
Anyone else wanting a pirates vs tax-dodgers game?
As long as the pirates get to use actuall artillery...
These cards and codex rules look printable from online sources. Why do people still buy official product.
Because the reality of the situation isn't anywhere near as bad as this video would have you believe.
because most people get into warhammer by going into a wh store or a local gaming store, and they get pressured to buy stuff they don't need... most people don't do enough research before buying
@@brainstorm90 and instead of quitting when these totally real people don't like it... They just keep playing?
I'll go with Occam's razor and just say people like the game and the issue in the video is made up for attention.
@@Optix334 simp harder, sugar boy...
@@Optix334the stock price is an absolute mess and has been all over the place for a few years, the players aren't just happily playing and plenty of people have already jumped ship, I've seen people all over the internet claim they're moving on to something else or OPR.
I bought the core book last week and in the mission section it defines the parameters for missions and VP's.
Essentially you have primary objectives that both players fight over and then secondary faction or army specific missions objectives as well that are outlined in the codices.
The tactical objectives are a nice twist and secret objectives are a nasty idea as well.
Parish nexus is a thematic narrative expansion of Warhammer using elements from the original leviathan box set objectives and adding a new flavour. There is no reason you cannot play leviathan rules and they work in gameplay the same way.
I like these expansions and I suppose there will be more.
If both players don't have them that doesn't mean your wh40k collection is useless, that is absurd.
I'm sure not everyone will buy every expansion and I suppose there are certain advantages and disadvantages for factions in each expansion so your army is tested more or your units stretched or your brain taxed to different degrees.
The objectives really make sense of the battles, rather than were here beating the shit outta everyone there is a more thematic drama and narrative urgency to get things done.
Line my army the inquisition, sororitas and rogue traders they have secondary objectives of cleanse and sanctify so even if they fail primarily they get 10 points for doing the emperors holy work in the opposing deployment zone, I think adding tactical objectives into the mix is awesome as they are on the way to cleanse and burn they might pick up more points in the meantime.
GW really needs to change the way they do things. I'm fucking sick of buying a 60 dollar codex and having it be completely fucking invalidated not even months but WEEKS later. It is so fucking frustrating.
I love this universe and this game, but they make it harder and harder with everything they do.
I for one am very happy they got a new deck out. Ive played so many games with the leviathan deck it was getting stale, I've now played 2 games with the new deck and enjoyed the new twists on them. Plus my opponent didnt need the deck to play, since it contains cards for both players.
I hate secondary mission cards at the moment, the feel so shity most of the time and its completly luck depended what you get.
I miss 3rd edition, I miss spending hours crafting my army list, customising the wargear, weapons, upgrades etc. of every single unit, I miss the depth and complexity of it and I particularly miss the stability and longevity of it. Current 40k and the relatively short timespan between entire new editions and need for a large expenditure as a result just does not appeal to me in the same way.
In spite of that I've been toying with the idea of getting back into the hobby for years but frankly it's the cost of Games Workshop stuff now that's the real barrier for re-entry for me.
You know, Nottingham doesn’t have a terrifc track record for choosing the people who come up with rules.
It is hilarously overpriced... maybe for half the price but that would be too expensive too.
I imagine that the next edition of Blood Bowl will land in October because apparently it needs new rules or something like that 😢
Digital subscription based rules are the future. I'm sure some people at GW don't want it, as it'll cost some lore writers and artists their job, but a lot of the rules people there have to be aware at this point that paper rules, in a world of quarterly balance patches is not a sustainable model to keep going forward with.
Been saying this for years. I dont know many if any players who would not pay for warhammer + if they got all the rules on a app.
@@tomeierdam8023 I bet there would still be people complaining that it isn't free, if GW does go with a subscription route xD
But yeah agreed. Myself and everyone I play with would subscribe to just having all the rules, and them always being up to date, in a heartbeat.
@@maxmagnus377it'll be free regardless due to piracy. Charging for some PDF that'll get leaked immediately is ridiculous as they'll hemorrhage money that way.
Without a hand on forehead , can there be a scandal ? This question will haunt my dreams for all time.
Emperor forgive you if you lose a card or three. I'm not anti-card, but after 40 years of gaming, I have tons of games I can't play because I'm missing pieces. I can still play (and sell on the secondary market) games that only needed the rulebook to play.
Yeah, I'm totally done with "official" 40k.
30k is where it's at for me
Guess I’m writing my own codex and cards for my already custom army 😂😂😂😅
So, GW have successfully monetized their game in a way that WOTC failed to?
If successful, you mean turning consumers off your product little by little...
@@cidtheslayer1 I'm sorta torn about this actually: WOTC inspired an instant revolt, GW fans seem much more determined to keep giving money to GW...
What did WOTC tried ?
It would be nice if places with 150-200 players could get more then 16 of the pariaha nexus card sets. Like at least let us buy like 50-70. So half the people have it
Poor Antares... to ahead of it's time :(
This woman may be the world's greatest pundit.
As someone who had never played but is interested in playing at some point and is currently trying to learn what I actually need to play, this is a little confusing and very concerning to me.
Rules from wahapedia, don’t pay Gw…