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Blind Test: Vintage V100 V Gibson 50's Standard
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- A big difference in price between a Vintage V100 and a Gibson Les Paul Standard, but is there a big difference in sound? Let's find out with a blind test.
0:00 Intro
0:42 Clean Sounds
4:02 Classic Rock Sounds
6:17 Metal Sounds
8:47 Full song
Thanks as ever for watching
Dunsy
#vintageguitar
#gibson
#lespaul
Please do check out part 2 of my Vintage V Gibson blind test. This time it's mini humbuckers! czcams.com/video/rUaTh0786Sk/video.htmlsi=_11LsU48O5IDO37R
At the start I found 1 to be brighter, 2 had a darker woodiness to the tone. I preferred 2 (Gibson) in this test. For the classic rock I felt 1 (vintage) had more character. As the owner of both Vintage and Gibson guitars I would say never make assumption based on the name or price. Play as many guitars as you can to find “the one”. I have a Vintage v6 SG that (for me) knocks the spots off every other guitar I own.
The Gibson is brighter and clearer. The Vintage has a lot of the issues I have with humbuckers in that they kinda sound muddy and I end up never using the neck pickup. the neck pickup in the Gibson actually sounds pretty good.The Vintage doesnt sound terrible but I prefer the Gibson much as I hate to admit it being a Fender guy.
Good test. Imho i preferred the Vintage, certain that the Gibson is not worth paying so much extra for unless you buying one as an investment and do not play it..
Both sound nice especially in your hands, you can make anything sound nice, the Vintage actually holds its own, quite impressive.👍
Cheers Francis, yeah a really nice instrument for crazy cheap money on the second hand market.
@@DunsysGuitarWorld 👍
I have the Vintage V100 Reissue in Iced Tea , it’s absolutely amazing!! The sounds it produces…..Wow!!
Nice dude, this is a great blind test! I often wonder how much a brand name affects our ear. I do wonder if the headstocks were switched, how many would immediately 'think' the 'Gibson' sounds better. It sure would have an effect as we are told they sound awesome. This being said, I can hear the difference here, but absolutely love the sound of both! Cheaper guitars these days are so awesome :) cheers!
Thanks for checking it out. Yeah, definitely something in what you say. Both of these are great sounding guitars - the Vintage is way better than what you would buy back in the early 80's when I started.
OK, I'm 3 minutes in, and I got it wrong. I assumed the one with the "best" clean sound was the Gibson, but it was the Vintage. Now, I've always rated the build and sound quality of the Vintage Les Paul copies, but absolutely hate their three-pointed headstock design! Silly, I know. I saw Midge Ure at a concert a few years ago, and he was playing a Vintage.
The Gibson is slightly darker but I love the sound of the vintage!!!
These guitars are so close in sound. I would get the Vintage V100 personally. Thanks for the comparison, Dunsy! 👍
No problem Matt, appreciate you checking it out.
Night and day on the bridge pick-up, the Gibson was way clearer
The vintage really did sound more soft like a classic les paul clean and took gain better to me, but then I'm pretty deaf these day's, lol.
Nice one Dunsy.
Much clearer mids and highs on the Gibson, to my old lugs I prefer that clearer cleaner humbucker tone. Very subjective, depends on what style you want to play, the Vintage can cover most bases at a decent price though..
Gibson Has more clarity Vintage more mid rangy. I would be happy with either TBH. Was there a big difference in price between them?
Very much so - both were used, Vintage was around £200, Gibson around £1800. I traded a bunch of stuff for the Gibson, as that’s most definitely above my cash budget!
@@DunsysGuitarWorld Thanks for the info. Just bought a B stock HB SC500 Vintage £120.00 (no worries about dropping it) To compare with my 75 LP Deluxe i am fairly impressed with the HB so far. Not dropped either yet
Now I regret selling my Gibson..
But I like my V100 also, the darker Neck pickup sounds huge, i just dont like the Bridge..
I have never seen this finish and color together in Vintage V100. Looks cool
It seems to be the standard of cheap guitars are the same as budget recording equipment ,getting a lot for your cash these days ,both guitars sound great ,Dunsy.. ..I’ve always been happy with my 250 quid Gretsch jet club
Keeps me off the sofa.......great review my friend
You and me both!
I liked the Gibson for the clean and metal sounds, whereas I thought the Vintage was better for the classic rock. Again, either or both would be welcomed on a gig.
Not shocked at all. I own both and I have to admit that my v100 with cts pots, switch and Entwhistle 58s is better than my Gibson! 🤟
I was in the kitchen listening and could not see what you were playing and I did not even care, it was what you were playing that was the highlight, not what you were using to play it... But then it comes down to player preference and enjoyment, the feel of the equipment and what it brings out of the player, as long as it makes you happy and you enjoy using it, Winning!!!
Cheers Josh, appreciate you checking it out.
Nothing wrong with the Vintage (I own a couple), but I thought the Gibson was a bit brighter.
I got the first 2 right (clean & classic rock) but I had a little trouble guessing which was which for the Metal comparison. Which kinda backs up a theory I have that when more gain is used it’s harder to tell the difference. An example is Kirk Hammett using Greeny in Metallica now. It could be an Epiphone 🤷♂️. Great video again mate. Very nice 👏
Yeah, I totally agree - the more gain you fire at the pickups the less there's any great difference. Especially on stage, with a drummer. Sometimes I can barely hear what I'm doing never mind how it sounds, lol.
@@DunsysGuitarWorld 100% man. If it’s high gain Metal it’s hard to tell the difference. There’s one particular channel on here I like (not naming names) and the dude always plays high gain stuff and reckons there’s a difference- there’s not 🤣. Very little if any. I think at that stage it’s how the guitar feels, plays,looks and behaves etc.
Liked the Vintage better on the cleans not much difference on the overdrive tones that I could here maybe the Gibson had a bit more bite but hardly noticeable to my cloth ears lol
Guitar 2 has better clarity but not as much drive for metal tones. Guitar 1 has better drive but is muddy. To me tonality is more about the high gain settings because once you got that part where you like it you can just back the volume knob way down for great clean tones and we usually only use the bridge pickup to achieve metal tones except for some solos. Where great clean tones are better achieved mixing the neck and bridge pickup turning volume down on the bridge volume up on middle
Both sound nice but this in this case I prefer the Gibson in all tests I think
Both guitars sounded out of tune to me. I assume it must be my audio playback.
Les Pauls always go out of tune. Lol
GREAT video, Dunsy! Thank you. Love your playing. Nothing in it for me. They both sound fabulous.
Thank you kindly!
Love Vintage's SO GOOD for your pocket money🎉
it's increasingly clear that wrapping wire round round a magnet isn't a secret magic process only possible in Nashville and california - Gibson know we've sussed their BS out which is why they're now offering £1200 Epis - great time to be a young player with superb gear for low money.
The Gibson was brighter/clearer and also less overt bass and treble on clean. Couldnt tell the difference at gain. Do you know the output of the pickups? Intrrested to see if the Gibson are higher output or if the difference is in some other aspect of the pickup.
I think the highest output is from the bridge pickup on the Vintage. I was surprised that it was a fair bit hotter than the neck.
I thought the Gibson sounded clearer but they sounded closer as the distortion increased.
From what I heard the Vintage was a tad brighter and a little tighter but still in the same tone family
Great Video Dunsy! that one took a bit of work im sure. Ive been tempted to get one of those vintage LP's. It sound good, how does it play.(fret board and stuff)? Thanks as always
That did indeed take me a LONG time, lol! The two Vintage Les Pauls I have are both excellent guitars. Got them both used for about £200 a piece. Really nice guitars for that budget. The only issues I would say is that the selector switch doesn’t feel very smooth, but that’s no major deal. And on the Deluxe one the screws all snapped when I tried to remove the pickup rings - must be made of a very cheap alloy. Both play great. I don’t hear a massive difference in sound from the Gibson in this video. Does it feel as good to play as the Gibson or, indeed, my Greco’s? No, but again not a huge difference that the price would suggest. And I’m very much a fan of Gibson guitars. I’m going to do a final summing up video about all 3 and what my thoughts are on value, playability etc.
I have two Vintage V100's Les Paul copies and have played many a Gibson. Gibson's have the edge when it comes to sound and playability but, not enough to warrant the price difference. Having a bad back, I find Gibsons and Epiphone Les Pauls a bit on the heavy side. The Vintages are that bit lighter and I can play stood up with a strap for hours without any problems.
Took me aback at 1st with your left or right higher volume but 1st clean any guitar was difficult until neck and the better sounding was the Gibson. On the heavy metal the Gibson was easily the better sounding guitar all round for me.
Great blind test:
Alright, here's what I prefered. I'm not even gonna try to guess which is which. Besides, it's quite a subjective topic.
Clean tones.
neck pu: I liked number 2 slightly better.
middle position: number 1 is my favorite.
bridge: I prefer number 2. Sounds fuller and more open. Less compressed.
classick rock
I liked number 2 better. It had a bit more bite to it. Number 1 sounds really good too, I gotta admit.
Metal
For this part, I closed my eyes so I wouldn't even see when you were switching and I didn't even notice the first couple of times. The difference is much more audible in the first two tests. High gain tones tend to nullify the subtleties you can hear with clean or edge of breakup tones. It might be a bit more noticeable once you started playing lead, though. I think number two might have sounded slightly richer to my ears, but I don't know, to be honest. Maybe I'm just convincing myself that one HAS to sound better haha.
I have to admit that I can rarely ever pick anything out on a blind test - I hear way too much with my eyes these days! I don't hear a massive difference in these 2 guitars and folks will have different tastes so will prefer one over the other. They do play a fair bit different though.
The Gibson sounds a bit better. The vintage v100 is a great guitar nonetheless, I own one and I love it. And I would definetely buy more guitars from this brand.
Im shocked, the vintage sounds much better to me.
Sounded like 1rst one had way more full sound volume but kept clarity and nice tone. The second sounded really thin and brittle. But then when the drive hit the compression matched the output and they both sounded killer. Hahah. I like the vintage though. Not at all a gibson guy. I know they hold value and people seem to love them but i dont. I like a strat or super strat. HSS or really anything that stays in tune and helps inspire a song. So if i had a gibson id probably love it ...just wont go out to pay the ridicuous prices for name sake when there are way way cheaper and often better alternatives. No offense.
No offence taken at all, my friend - people should always buy the guitar that they think best suits their needs and one which speaks to them.
Not a great deal of difference, the Vintage would get my vote, purely on price.
So the Gibson being a touch brighter could be strings! No one ever mentions that.
The Vintage sounds great for the money, the Gibson doesn't give anymore for the extra except the name on the headstock
No way. I preferred the vintage😮
Both sound good but Gibson wins it. Sounded cleaner. 👍
What about the neck ? Which is the most ergonomic ?
I much prefer the larger profile of the Gibson neck, out of these 2 guitars.
Vintage sounds better to my ears🤘🏻
First of all , cant tell any difference through my high end cellphone speaker...😂😂
But one of them smells nicer ☝️🤣🍺🍺
👍🏻👍🏻
Technology has came a long way. From what I have read Gibson is losing credibility because of their low quality and vintage is on its way to being considered a brand name instead of a knock off guitar. Just because the economy is getting bad does it mean people don't desire to play and playing a brand name like Gibson is less important then not playing at all. I'm not spending $3,000 on a guitar when the sound of a 600 is hardly noticeable . Besides vintage is getting so popular, it's okay to own one without feeling like you've had to settle for second best.
He's conned u all !! 1 was a Greco and 2 was Yamaha SG 1000 😅😂😅😂🎉.. 😮😮😮😮
I wish I had now that you mention it, lol 😂
Number 1 was Tele .. number 2 was a jazz master with P90's 😮😮😮😮 😂😂😂
I have to stop this 😅😅 get poor Dunsy lynched 😅😅
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Imagine you just paid for a Gibson then someone pulls out Vintage V100 sure you have a name brand that the resale value will be higher , that's about it, the Vintage stood tall amongst the giant in the industry, I wonder why some big music stores like Andertons don't carry Vintage, um maybe they don't want a customer coming in testing the Vintage at £500 quid or so new and sounding just as a good or better than a guitar 4 times or more , loss sales being an authorized Gibson dealer pretty sure Gibson would not be please would they
It could well be that - now you mention it I haven’t seen any big stores who carry Gibson guitars also stock Vintage guitars.
Gibson has more clarity and no wooliness. Putting higher value pots on the Vintage may bring out more top end.
I have 2 Vintage guitars a Tele and a v100. Both are great. I haven't changed anything but strings on either. The Tele has been mine for 20 years. Just goes to show how much of a ripoff Gibson are!
Thanks but maybe tune up better next time.
Thanks for checking it out buddy, much appreciated 👍
I got it wrong also, the Gibson sounds out of tune
amp??
Kemper
Put the same pickups on both guitars and wire them the same then let's hear the difference. Not a good comparison as the vintage is wire out of phase like a Greenee guitar and the pickups wilkeson are not as good as the gibson pickups.
moore open ...the Gibson
Vintage without an hesitation ...
Vintage sounded best
Vintydz jest fajniejszy w dzwięku bardziej ciepły i o duzo tanszy niz gibson
Where in Scotland are you dude?
East side of the country. Edinburgh - a city with a big castle on a hill!
I guessed right but there's very little in it tbh