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Happy to see this in practice. A few years back when I lived in the rocky mountains I conceptualized something similar but the heat box was a pellet fed rocket stove to cut down on wood usage over winter. I have since moved to Florida though so cheap heating isn't something I think about very often anymore lol
I service these systems once and a while and your run through was a great refresher. I can tell you really know the system. Awesome video
Would you recommend a outdoor wood burner or a indoor one? I'm trying to get one next year but not sure what to get. Thank you.
How cool! I never knew there was such a thing!
Thanks for explaining. I’m in contract for a home/property with an outdoor wood burning furnace. I appreciate your knowledge and understanding
This sounds sooo warm!
Nice and toasty!
Good video. Thank You for sharing. I would upgrade it indoor like its own little shed with wood.
If we had the budget - that would be a great idea PLUS a larger wood shed
Informative, educational and interesting video. Great job on explaining the whole system and how it works. Keep up the good work. I enjoy your videos.
Thank you, we appreciate all of your thoughtful comments Mary! Hope you are doing great!
Educational? He gave out bad information he doesn't even know his own stove... your ignorance and trust is people like him will get you hurt one day...bor cost you a lot of money... the dam fool don't even know where the water is on that stove.. 🤣 he thinks it's all on top of it ..
I actually saw an outdoor wood furnace that requires no water, I honestly like the boiler better since it supplies hot water, which to me sounds more useful.
your setup is a modern version of my father's 1980's system that has an indoor wood firebox inline after the standard electric central air system, damper controlled by a separate thermostat but its either full fire or no fire. plus in the back of the firebox are coils of water that flow through the hot water heater. If we are not careful we can and have fried the duct tape on the ducts- I like your fail safe measures on yours!
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I live in Florida and I want one for the winter
Good explanation. Thank you.
Thanks! I never knew how a wood burning furnace worked.
Thanks for watching!
He knows now nothing about them. Gave bad information in almost every statement he said in this horrible video
Best wood burning furnace video I've ever watched. I'd highly recommended it.
Lol no, no, no... this dude knows nothing about the stove he is using....
@@facediaper4607 why you say that? Enlighten me
@@TrustTheProcessKB i get very tired of servicing and repairing these boilers because of complete ignorance from the owners. Ya i would be out of some work but really people just fucking educate themselves they would save themselves so much money and problems ... could say stupid people keep trades in business that being said the world is filled with stupid people
Thanks very informative.
Good video. With regards to your backup water heater; couldn't you install some sort of aquastat and a bypass valve so that the water would not get over heated. The same as you have on your furnace. That would eliminate the need for a second water tank.
Nice system. Thanks for sharing - i learned a lot. That water heat exchanger is really awesome. Did you build that yourself? Is it a kit?
Hi Dude I was building a out house wood burner after I visited the west and saw a man's home made version. I live up in canada and I copied his from my memory. I started to build the build I used stainless steel but never got it done as I was a welder and life seems to go off in different directions sometimes I still have the stove though. Maybe one day finish it. I was told the out house wood stove was great but seemed to have one set back it burned a lot of wood so in theory I was going to try to make it more efficient and this is what I come up with!
I thought dig a big hole make it round as round is more efficient than square about the size 12 feet across and 12 feet deep and make a big tank. Fill the tank with stones 3/4 full and put a top on it. Remember you under ground so the earth helps insulate it but use some other insulation probably spray foam and insulate it more take your piping from your stove and route it into the tank and then take a separate line and run it to your heat sources "home shop green house ect." The theory behind is the stones will act as a heat storage sourse like a battery holding the heat longer thus making the stove more efficient. I Never tried it makes sense in theory i am sure it would be more efficient but how much is the million dollar question! Something to ponder just thought to put it out there. Great channel by the way.
Very cool! If love to see this turn out! I've seen people winter camp and put stones in their tent wood stove to preserve the heat...with my setup there is also heat loss transferring water undetground...so insulated pex and going really deep is important
Nice explanation sir
Cool video. Curious, I know you're in "cold country," I assume somewhere in the northwest? Did you look at geothermal? That heat pump is the same general idea behind geothermal. Question, how often are you having to stoke the fire and or add wood to the furnace. I'm sure you being the only guy in the house, that job falls on you? Thanks again for sharing.
I burn a LOT of Oak Leaves every year. I usually throw out the ash in my garbage pick up. --Is the ash from oak leaves useful like the ash from wood?
Why not just use the one hot water tank with the mixing valve on top? As far as the thermostats why not just use a single thermostat with 2 stage heat and have the propane furnace as the second stage? If the thermostatic valve is closed due to the wood furnace not being on, how does the water backfeed to keep the boiler from freezing? Very interesting setup.
Is the water jacket above the firebox or does water surround the firebox? And does the firebox and water jacket share the same surface? The steel making up the air channels in my 2011 E-Classic 2400 model is 50% corroded so im thinking about cutting out the air channel steel and either welding or rivoting new steel plate in place to recreate to air channels which for rivoting requires drilling holes 6 inches above and 6 inches below the air channels
What contingencies do you have for power outages? It seems to me that if an outage went on long enough, the pumps being off would result in freezing.
Great question! In a recent video I built a small portable solar generator/trailer. It will power these pumps no issue and we use it to supply 120 volts to other buildings and projects on our homestead...currently Christmas lights! Check that video out if you want..it was a fun ond.
For some reason I’m having trouble understanding it. The wood furnace heats your homes hot water which helps with electrical bill I’d assume. Also it heats the home in general. That’s through some sort of forced hot air system?
I just watched this whole thing and I live in Florida. Sometimes I wish it would get cold for like a month so we could do this.
Its below zero here today so this thing sure does come in handy. Small wood burner in our house is not cutting the cold.
Yikes. Its 74* here with a low of 63. Stay warm!
Great tar making machine!
You do know you can use a plate exchanger for you hot water heater instead of the radiant arm. More efficient and also you’re not always drawing on the wood stove. It makes a HUGE difference. I got mine for under 100 bucks. This is the best way to do it and all the forums will tell
You this as well! I have done it both ways and I’m so glad that radiant arm is gone. It also allows U to ditch your second tank as well.
I did not know that! Looking into this..thx!
Outdoor wood boiler on Facebook is a very informative page. Check it out!
Outdoor furnaces have some obvious benefits. One of those being the "mess" of burning wood is confined to the out-of-doors. And you can store your entire wood supply next to the burner. Another being the fact the actual fire is out-of-doors. And the later I suspect is why these outside furnaces are popular. Insurance companies make indoor burners much less economically feasible. Because if you want to install an indoor burner insurance companies want you to pay an exorbitant price to insure your home. Once again, an insurance company is running your life and stealing your money. There are and have for years been indoor burners that are as safe as outdoor burners. Yet you're forced to deal with huge pieces of firewood that you won't be able to handle when you're elderly and you'll also be tempted to burn wetter poorer quality firewood simply which is overall a a less efficient use of that resource. PLUS you will be paying an electric bill associated with burning a 100 watt light bulb for an entire cold weather season. At least. The most efficient use of a wood heater, in fact any heater, is when the burn is inside a structure because almost all of the heat energy released occurs within and "stays" within the structure instead of being immediately released to the atmosphere. You're a slave to your home insurance company and it's stockholders. My opinion. Rebuttal please.
PLUS consider the huge expense of these devices. Offset because if you're community minded you'll love paying your local plumbing AND heating company a ton of money. Especially when your hot water tank develops a leak, and/or something else fails and you spend another ton of money repairing/replacing parts that have frozen and burst. PLUS you still have to maintain a secondary (in your case propane) heat source including purchasing propane (which of course you'll burn).
Very valid points.. for us it makes sense because unlike an indoor wood stove- our outdoor unit heats our home AND our rental furnace (we have a 2 family) and all of our water and our workshop heater. So for these reasons- multiple things to heat it makes sense for me. Also it's nice to have a huge Firebox we can load up and let it run for a day... with an indoor stove we have to tend it all day and it only heats one area. So for us it works but you have good points and this is not for everyone. If I had only one location to heat and a 2 story ( we have a long single story) I'd definitely opt for an indoor wood stove instead. Thanks !
these things are a colossal WASTE of money... Ridiculously expensive, filthy dirty, labor intensive and very very inefficient. Believe me I have one ..works well but would NEVER EVER EVER buy another.
Awesome set up. I do have a question though concerning the thermal valve. If the water is under 170degrees its rerouted back to the wood burner. How does the water flow to the furnace to stay warm if you go on vacation using the radiant propane heat from the furnace? You wouldnt be making the loop through the furnace with propane, just the loop at the thermal valve because it rerotes the flow if it's under 170 degrees. Unless you have a bypass valve inline I'm not seeing.
Great question, yes there is a bypass. O used it once, full circulation
80°? Wow!! I'm at that age where I like it warm...but not tropical.
I keep my house at 71° to 72° and have family that says that's too hot.
Yeah 69 is perfect lol
Another benefit you forgot to mention is lower house insurance rates, as the main source of heat is outside of the house and no risk of fire..
Good point!
My neighbor has one and I freaking hate it. We are in the suburbs but people who are new to the neighborhood will call the fire dept thinking a house is on fire. We can’t open windows. It SUCKS. if we were in the country, fine but it shouldn’t be allowed in the suburbs. I was curious how they actually work and heat their home.
Would you be able to use anti-freeze in your system and not have to worry about freezing? It may even help with corrosion, because we all know straight water tends to want to rust over time.
yes- that is possible and some do it. It is expensive though and that is why I have not. Also I don't worry about it freezing because the water is constantly being pumped and the unit is well insulated. If the fire ever goes out or we go on vacation- we have propane in our house as a backup. We keep the OWB pumps running and the water still runs into the furnace and the hot (propane backup) air flows over the coils so it won't freeze. Thanks
@@Homesteadhow I like IT! What do you do if power goes out on freezing nights, ice storms , etc. like here in NC or goes out if you are away for a week in freezing conditions. Pumps won't run? Propane furnace won't run? Wondering Will your system freeze and break tank above the fire box and lines, pumps in the unit?
@@genewalters6995 great question- the system is insulated and the pex is insulated but if it went out long enough it could freeze. I build a little solar trailer last year- it outputs 1400 watts (the 2 pumps only need 200 watts) so I could use that to keep the pumps running and the water moving which would buy some more time before freezing- we also have a generator we could power up. Its been 5 years and luckily we only had 1 outage and it lasted 5 hours and nothing froze. Antiefreeze could be used too- but its really expensive
@@Homesteadhow using any kind of antifreeze would drop the efficiency of the system as well
our solar hot water panels use RV antifreeze that flow threw a special hot water tank, but we had to de-commission the system as it often boiled over, boiling water out of the tap- shook the entire house. Great idea, didn't work
The fire will stay lit until someone forgets to go to the furnace... there were times in my youth when our mom would go to take a shower before work in the morning and the water was stoooooooone freaking cold because one of us boys forgot to fill the furnace the night before after barn chores... Believe me, she ALWAYS let us know about it... 😂
If your thermostatic valve prevents water under 170 degrees from reaching the inside furnace, the inside furnace can't keep the lines from the outside furnace from freezing. Unless you have some sort of bypass of the thermostatic valve, right?
Correct! And I do have a bypass
How much wood do you burn on average each week to keep this going?
Question: why couldn't one of these boilers serve double duty, and also run a steam engine to generate electricity?
Must have missed something or not quite understanding. You said that if the water is below a certain temp coming into the house from the boiler the black thermocouple will keep the water from coming into the furnace and send it back around to get heated some more. I get this, but then later you stated if the boiler fire is out (vacation or whatever) your propane furnace will keep that water warm so it doesn't freeze. How does this work if the water doesn't make it that far in the first place because the fire is out and the water is not warm enough to get past the thermocouple?
Thanks for the informative video.
Very observant question! In those cases I have a hose/bypass across the thermocouple. So the water does pass across the furnace when I set it up to do so. Thx
@@Homesteadhow Hey thanks for the response. Appreciate it.
How do you deal with coal soot and ash buildup inside the furnace?
We have a tool... almost looks like a gardeon hoe to scrape the firebox. Every few weeks we clean the ash out and scrape it out. Thanks for watching
How many gpm pump runs to the furnace?
How is the boiler safety wise around the close by shrubs..Im getting ready to pour a pad to locate mine...nothing as close as what you have but im still paranoid about the sparks...any thoughts folks
I have a small cement pad in front and stones in front of that. It's been fine, plus I'm never leaving the door open with flames unless for the short time when I load it up. Thx
@@Homesteadhow thanks for the reply bud
nice system but the savings to me is minimal with all the Eletric pumps running, inside wood stove to me is still the king'
I agree. It depends on your setup. This heats 2 full houses, a workshop and all of our water. Can't do all that with 2 wood stove. Thx
Can somebody please explain to me, why the fire needs to be outside and why it can't burn inside the house where it would heat the house at the same time?
It heats water which pumps to 2 houses and our workshop and heats our water. So it is a way to have a large fire which heats many zones. One woodstove in my house would only heat one zone. Thx
Got it. But if you were to build a completely new house it would still make sense to incorporate that burner into the architecture so that all the generated heat is used, right?
Did you make the furnace?
No it was built by central boiler. Thanks for watching!
@@Homesteadhow oh cool. Only reason i asked is it looked like some plans i saw on ebay. Keep up the good work
The entire thing is incased in water not just the top.
So that's just more like a hot water heater then
How does the water get there though?
Its prefilled with 400 gallons and that water just circulates to the house and back over and over
Does it evaporate throughout the year?
@@matthewmccarthy312 It is a fully enclosed system. There would be no water loss unless there was a leak.
What happens if you loose electricity?
Hook up.a generator.. same i suppose most would do. These new units have a solar option to continue to power the pumps
@@Homesteadhow That makes sense. Thanks for the response!
I'm sorry to tell you but I sold a lot of outdoor furnaces for the investment in that stove and the work. Look it up and the labor to cut the wood they burned so dang much would it ain't worth it take my advice and Central Boiler with a square Firebox and they keep adding more Electronics to think they're making it better for you get a little stove put it in the house your worries are over when you're trying to keep 150 gallons of water warm 24/7 you're going to burn a lot of wood
Maybe true for some cases, I'm heating a huge ranch, all my water, my workshop and an entire second house with seperate furnace. That's impossible with a little wood stove inside as you suggest. I'd need 4 of them!
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