Bark River White Compound & DLT Leather Strop

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  • @chadswood
    @chadswood Před 7 lety +46

    Wako-San,
    I've been watching you for 3 years now. At first I couldn't sharpen a knife to save my life. Now all of my knives are mirror polished razors just like yours. Thanks for teaching me this craft.

    • @charlesserc7753
      @charlesserc7753 Před 4 lety +1

      Same hear. This cat is a madman

    • @1mataleo1
      @1mataleo1 Před 2 lety +1

      Me too man. I owe this man a debt of gratitude. I couldn’t sharpen a knife to save my life, but after following his channel for years and applying his methods, my friends are scared to even use my knives. I can now get them hair whittling, scary sharp. He’s a legend

  • @tphvictims5101
    @tphvictims5101 Před 7 lety +23

    this is by far the best compound video I have seen. after this I got myself some green and white compounds and began to learn how to strop my knives. I enjoy my new hobby very much. thank you.

  • @sama779
    @sama779 Před 7 lety +30

    this guy's broken english is the most amazing thing I've listened to all week. Totally made my day man.

    • @Bert2368
      @Bert2368 Před 4 lety +3

      His English is FAR better than my Japanese. I enjoy listening to this man. I expect I would enjoy sitting by a fire in the woods with him.

    • @becomematrix
      @becomematrix Před 3 lety +1

      For a Japanese this is nowhere near broken

    • @DilettanteDon
      @DilettanteDon Před 3 lety +2

      His English is better than 99% of Americans mastery of Japanese.

    • @becomematrix
      @becomematrix Před 3 lety +2

      @@DilettanteDon indeed

    • @keaganlindsay7648
      @keaganlindsay7648 Před 3 lety +1

      You should come to South Africa, 😂

  • @steveledbetter5613
    @steveledbetter5613 Před 4 lety +3

    This is actually the best stropping video I seen, and I’ve watched at least a dozen. The magnifying images were able to prove what each compound did, but more importantly it proved to me that a firmer stroke at a higher angle is very effective. I’ve seen guys on CZcams using so little pressure and at such a low angle that they wouldn’t remove a micro particle of steel. I’ve stropped just like this guy for years with excellent results. I’m not changing. Thank you for a great video.

  • @postrrboy
    @postrrboy Před 10 lety +12

    Wow!! What an awesome video! You can clearly see the difference it makes under the microscope. Thanks doc!!

  • @emperorpalpatine7495
    @emperorpalpatine7495 Před 4 lety +5

    I love the Sound of your voice! It's so soothing & calming. I could watch you videos all day

  • @mbenjamin292
    @mbenjamin292 Před 9 lety +1

    All I can say is WOW YOU ARE THE MAN WITH A PLAN GREAT VIDS!!

  • @prestonscott5367
    @prestonscott5367 Před 6 lety

    I am impressed! Looking forward to purchasing my very own Bark River Bushcrafter in the next month or so. And I think those strops with compound look great fo taking care of it.

  • @Surtac100
    @Surtac100 Před 13 lety

    Excellent demonstration. I will get this. I have learned a lot from your videos, thanks for all of your hard work put forth in making these videos.

  • @Burostoelpootwieltje
    @Burostoelpootwieltje Před 13 lety

    Wow your videos are so informative, beautiful work on how you explain the compounds and I'm going to order a DLT two side strop with black and white compound!! thank you for all the great videos i can't wait for the new hunting season and not to forget the deer dishes loved to see those! Thanks again! Greetings from the Netherlands

  • @dbkfrogkaty1
    @dbkfrogkaty1 Před 8 lety +1

    New to stropping. This video is very helpful in showing a good technique. Thank you.

  • @13Hangfire
    @13Hangfire Před 9 lety

    Wow! Incredible video! Thanks for sharing!

  • @DoomOfConviction
    @DoomOfConviction Před 3 lety

    I hope you now how important you are for the knife world! I stropped wrong all the time until I watched your videos, I feathers sticked wrong but with sour deeper grip technique I feather stick with no problem. Your a gift mr Wako!

  • @MrJoeyBoombotz
    @MrJoeyBoombotz Před 13 lety

    Beautiful work. Thank you for sharing all of the results of your testing.

  • @49giants3
    @49giants3 Před 7 lety +1

    You have a lot of information to share. Thank you

  • @ThomasVoss
    @ThomasVoss Před 8 lety

    You are a great teacher. I am learning from watching your videos.

  • @mnsar334
    @mnsar334 Před 10 lety

    Very good explanation. Thank you for posting this vid for us new strop users!

  • @tphvictims5101
    @tphvictims5101 Před 7 lety +1

    VERY informative, thank you SIR.I also have to say this made me smile,I love this video.

  • @Folma7
    @Folma7 Před 8 lety +1

    Excellent instructive video. I learned some very good information. Thank you.

  • @fuzzlenuff
    @fuzzlenuff Před 9 lety +1

    My knives are now very sharp thanks to your instruction. Take care knife person.

  • @MrSkulls52
    @MrSkulls52 Před 8 lety +2

    Hello virtuovice! Thank you for sharing your knife sharpening skills!!! Very impressive. Best I have seen on CZcams! Looked up the Bark River DLT web site and will be ordering the same items you are using to sharpen my knife to "SCARY" sharp.

  • @bush0165
    @bush0165 Před 13 lety

    Great Video, Great Channel. Thanks Virtuovice!!

  • @timpoe1015
    @timpoe1015 Před 6 lety

    Thanks for the great video dr wako !!!!

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 13 lety +8

    @OrangePHX Even when stropping a clean knife on a new white compound, the compound goes black as in this case. Surely just after the black compound the edge has many black particles on it when viewed through the microscope. So I regularly wipe the blade after the black compound. Nonetheless my old leather with a white compound is now completely black. So I write "白” which means white on the white side to differentiate it. I think the main cause for blackening is the metal from blades. Thanks.

  • @OnRappel
    @OnRappel Před 13 lety

    WOW, incredibly informative. Great job.

  • @fenrir7969
    @fenrir7969 Před 5 lety +3

    This is amazing, seeing the results of the compounds under a microscope is exactly what I was looking for, thank you.

  • @VeritacitySolutions
    @VeritacitySolutions Před 7 lety

    This was very useful video. Thank you!

  • @MF_UNDERTOW
    @MF_UNDERTOW Před 13 lety

    Those are some great results. I'm convinced.

  • @metzgeri
    @metzgeri Před 11 lety +2

    Although I'm new to stropping, and constantly learning, I find your video very informative and a pleasure to watch. Great English by the way, I only wish my Japanese was anywhere near as good. Keep up the great videos.

  • @MrRsd1963
    @MrRsd1963 Před 9 lety

    Great video, thank you for sharing.

  • @bradsbladespro-sharpening5364

    Great Video!! Do you mind giving your tips and/or method of removing old compound from your leather strops?

  • @ctnnpt
    @ctnnpt Před 13 lety +2

    Hey Wako. I have a suggestion for a video for you to consider. I'd love to see you make a tutorial on maintaining your strops. Your compound loaded strops always look smooth as glass and I always have pits which form in mind. Just something for you to consider if you'd have any interest in filming it. Love the channel.

  • @wangmasterz
    @wangmasterz Před 8 lety

    great vids man, new sub ! Keep em comming

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 13 lety +3

    @secretsquirrell13 Depending on the extent of damage, I begin with #320 or #600 to restore a damaged edge if needed. In my experience the abrasive power of black compound is comparable to #1000 paper. So for regular convex edge maintenance I don't use sand papers at all. Thanks.

  • @EclecticLensYT
    @EclecticLensYT Před 8 lety

    Thanks!! This was very helpful!!

  • @27dcx
    @27dcx Před 13 lety

    i will have to try white compound based on your recommendation. I have found that when stropping at the proper angle some dust from the compound will be raised as well. I have been glad to see you making so many videos lately! take care.

  • @aray9628
    @aray9628 Před 4 lety

    Very cool thanks for sharing 👍👊

  • @noelle1314
    @noelle1314 Před 7 lety

    Great video!!
    What is the lowest stone I should use before starting to strop with the black compound? Thanks

  • @MrJoeyBoombotz
    @MrJoeyBoombotz Před 13 lety +1

    I missed your " Hi, knife people", too.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 13 lety

    @traderjoes What you say sounds very correct. The blade tends to slip on the smooth leather even if the compound was loaded on it. I like fine suede leather for strops. The reason was said by you. Thank you!

  • @michaelroutson383
    @michaelroutson383 Před 6 lety

    Very professional videos 👍🏻

  • @sosteve9113
    @sosteve9113 Před 8 lety

    very sharp,well done

  • @bobosantos1
    @bobosantos1 Před 13 lety

    Thanks for the information. It's good to know that the white compound works better than the green. I was wondering which worked better.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 12 lety +1

    @ridnovir The DLT leather takes compounds without heat. It will make a better surface. And when you feel its surface is glassy, you had better get rid of the old compound using the spine of a knife. Then the surface will get rougher, and apply the compound again. After doing it some times, it will get a better surface. But its surface is different piece by piece. I have ever owned 5 pieces of DLT strops. And I gifted 2 good pieces to my friends and I have the same trouble as yours now. Thanks.

  • @TiFrameLock
    @TiFrameLock Před 10 lety

    I LOVE your videos, they're very informative and for someone like myself that wants to learn more about and get better at stropping, yours are the ones to watch.
    Have you ever tried any StropMan Strops?
    I'm getting ready to buy his 16" long "NoMomma Strop" and it has two leather sides running 2.50" wide by 12" long and he sells compound as well. I believe his compound is different than what's made by Bark River.
    Have you ever used any knives made of INFI steel?
    Keep up the great work!

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 12 lety +2

    @vjanda1 I usually apply more compound over the old layer. But when I feel the layer has got too thick, I remove the layer completely with a metal brush used for removing paint. It also raise the hair of the strop. Thanks.

  • @RetiredTony
    @RetiredTony Před 6 lety

    THANK YOU MY FRIEND...GREAT VIDEO INDEED!

  • @Tziga_Vertov
    @Tziga_Vertov Před 11 lety

    At minute 12.05 I fell of my chair! ahahha! Great video, Sir. As usual.

  • @RubricoA.
    @RubricoA. Před 3 lety

    Got my DLT Economy Strop with Bark River Black and White Compound.
    BRK Black is same as Enkay Emery Compound and the smell too.
    But white is really nice put a mirror polish and scary sharpto the edge

  • @normrubio
    @normrubio Před 11 lety +1

    What exactly is the ramp removal modification? I really love your vids showing microscopic views on the effects of compounds. Thank you very much

  • @Urudrim
    @Urudrim Před 13 lety

    i've been using brown tripoli for rough and fabuluster for final finish (both usually used to polish jewelry rings) on a self made muslin strop. getting pretty good results but i wonder how it would compare to the black/white compounds.
    i like the fabuluster because it's not oily.

  • @pecarew2003
    @pecarew2003 Před 4 lety

    Hello, I would be curious to hear your thoughts on ceramic edged knifes vs steal and if you have any experience with them? Thanks, loving your fishing lunches!

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 13 lety

    @ryanrrx I totally agree with you. I feel like the green can even dull the edge after the black in my experience. So I had already quit using the green before I met the white. But the dullness cannot be seen through the microscope. If I were able to observe the edge just from its front side, it would be thicker after the green and thinner after the white. Thanks.

  • @tonyliyen
    @tonyliyen Před 13 lety

    I have black and green compound and the results afterthe sharpening my chosera is incleible Naniwa, but I have to try the white compound to see the difference.
    Thank you for another great video.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 11 lety +2

    Heat makes applying compounds easier. The smooth side leather of KSF strop doesn't take black or white compound without heat. But the rough side leather of DLT strop takes all compounds very well without heat. If heated, the compound layer will go too thich on the DLT strop. Thanks.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 10 lety

    Its 2.5"x12" size is the same as my favorite DLT strop. I personally love DLT strop because its leather is very thin which doesn't take an edge deep. I know thick and soft leather makes a strong convex bevel. My preference is a weak convex bevel made by my water stone sharpening. I don't know how thick the leather is to the StropMan.
    I ever owned Busse CABS knife. Its secondary convex edge had a large apex angle over 40 degrees, and I sold it off before evaluating INFI in a small angle. Thanks.

  • @maimster4256
    @maimster4256 Před 7 lety

    Love this guy!!

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 11 lety +6

    I highly recommend you water stone sharpening. Cheap stones won't give you satisfaction at all since they don't containg efficient abrasives. Chosera stones comprise artificial gem stones and cut much faster than cheap stones. Chosera's high speed is absolutely necessary for real sharpening to get the keenest edge in an acceptalbe period of time. Nagura stone makes slurry to meke the sharpening feel better. I don't feel Nagura abrasives sharpen the edge since Chosera itself cuts extremely fast.

  • @ridnovir
    @ridnovir Před 12 lety

    Very useful video. I just got my DLT double sided strop (exactly the one you got) and I have noticed that the lather is smoother and thicker on one side and thinner on the other. My question to you, Sir, which side should I apply black and and which side white compounds, or there is no difference? Thank you.

  • @scdave100
    @scdave100 Před 12 lety

    Thank you for your video's and information. If you were to pick only two compound colors to use with one being white would the other choice be black or green?

  • @vjanda1
    @vjanda1 Před 12 lety

    Excellent and very informative video as usual, well done.
    How do you clean the leather strops?
    Do you just apply more compound on top or do you remove the old layer which contains metal from cleaning and if so how?
    I was going to buy the black and green set but this changed my mind. I will get black and white instead.
    Thanks you

  • @JSKnife
    @JSKnife Před 11 lety +1

    Hello, I have recently discovered your videos and I am enjoying them immensely. Thank you for your time and effort. I am very new to knife sharpening and care. I received my Bark River compounds yesterday for strops I have made. I read the instructions for applying the compounds and they talk about heating the compounds and the leather with a flame. But you are simply rubbing it on. What are your thoughts regarding this?

  • @JSKnife
    @JSKnife Před 11 lety

    Thanks. I know I just need to jump in and try things. Looking forward to it.

  • @DinoDIY
    @DinoDIY Před 3 lety

    Great video, thanks!

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 11 lety +1

    Bark River Rampless Gunny knife in A2 tool steel. The dealers take the ramp removal modification for around $20.

  • @OZmeBushnBlade
    @OZmeBushnBlade Před 13 lety

    So what would you say,,, if I finish sharpening with King #6000 then jump to BR white compound... would I get full effect of polish as you demonstrated here?
    Would be helpful to me to make purchasing decision, if that way of usage works.
    Thanks in advance.

  • @rkna1
    @rkna1 Před 6 lety

    Great test! Like the video.

  • @TheRedRider100
    @TheRedRider100 Před 11 lety

    Wako-san which is more abraisive green or white? also what colour was put on the more abraisive side and what colour was pt on the less abraisive side?

  • @frips1000
    @frips1000 Před 13 lety

    very impressive!!!!

  • @davethimmel7135
    @davethimmel7135 Před 3 lety

    Great video

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 13 lety +2

    @bushnblade I have both #6000 and #8000 King stones. But they have gone completely useless far behind the Bark River white compound loaded DLT leather strop at my place. My initial edge reprofiling stone is a #220 green carbide stone from unknown company. And my sharpening stones are KIng #1000 and Naniwa #3000. The #3000 stone does enough to go to the white compound. Some skilled water stone sharpening person might say a different thing though. Thanks.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 12 lety

    @catfishBG The white compound always gives me a mirror edge, so it is expected to remove stains as well. If it doesn't, the #1500 sandpaper on flat backing will do it. And then the white compound will finish it. Thanks.

  • @N9HXV
    @N9HXV Před 13 lety

    Very Nice Job!
    john

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 12 lety +2

    @aTellerOfTruths The black compound has pretty strong abrasive power to change the edge geometry. I don't think the white compound will change it. Its abrasive particles seem very fine. Thanks.

  • @mrglock2313
    @mrglock2313 Před 2 lety

    Merry Christmas Dr Wako 2021

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 12 lety +1

    @ridnovir My one happened to have the same leather on the both sides. About your wonder different persons say different things and I am confused. But I would prefer black compound on the thicker smoother side and white compound on the thinner rougher side. The purpose of the black compound is making or restoring a convex edge, and the white compound is for polishing the edge finely. The rougher side will take the white compound better. And the thinness will not change the edge geometry. Thanks.

  • @OZmeBushnBlade
    @OZmeBushnBlade Před 13 lety

    @virtuovice
    Thank you for the great info. I was wondering if I can jump from #6000 to BR white, coz I got info that BR white is equivarent of about #12000. but you managed to jump even from #3000, then my concern is answered.
    Thank you again for great help of info!

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 13 lety

    @marcbolan88 I am understanding that all Opinels have a zero grind convex edge. So your Opinel must be sharpened only on the black and white compound loaded leather strop. The black compound performs comparable to #1000 sand paper. But if your Opinel had a secondary micro V edge, you would have to grind it off at first with sandpapers beginning from #320 or so. Thanks.

  • @ridnovir
    @ridnovir Před 12 lety

    I listened to your advise and loaded white compound to a rougher side of my DLT strop. I heated both the strop and the compound to apply. It applied like the paste and than hardened when compound cooled off. When I started to strop the surface became very smooth and glassy (litteraly it is shiny and it is like stropping on a glass i.e. no color changes when I strop). Is that the way it should be? What did I do wrong? I am a beginner in this and your advise is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 13 lety

    @paolowolverine My internet connection is ADSL and very slow because my location is 15 miles away from the station. So even for uploading this video it took me 3 hours. When I get a faster connection, I will read out and upload the video in HD. Thanks.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 13 lety

    @MrEShue I have got many of them from KnivesShipFree(KSF) and The-Knife-Connection(TKC). And I know Crystal Falls Trading, DLT Trading, and Jagged Horizon Knives are also Bark River stocking dealers. Before purchasing, I always need to go to all of them because they have different handle variations in many cases. Thanks.

  • @gunny4029
    @gunny4029 Před 7 lety

    how do you feel about dlt $50:00 horse leather strop. is it better than the sharp shooter or is the horse leather worth the expence

  • @WeolocoMr
    @WeolocoMr Před 3 lety

    thanks my friend! know all is clear

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 13 lety

    @siypic What you say is very correct. I was wrong. That figure was the zoom ratio from the wide to the tele. Thank you!

  • @K37J
    @K37J Před 12 lety

    @virtuovice Thank you for videos. They are extremely informative! You are very objective, detailed and scientific. How much pressure are you using when you strop? It looks and sounds like you are using a good deal of downward pressure.

  • @Traderjoe
    @Traderjoe Před 13 lety

    Great great video Wako! I had a poll posted on the message board regarding what people feel about smooth leather vs sueded leather strops and did not really recieve much feedback. I feel that the suede leather is best because the small flaps of leather hold onto the compound and polish the metal better than smooth leather. In all your videos, I notice that you also use the sueded leather exclusively.

  • @snakemonkey555
    @snakemonkey555 Před 9 lety

    Thank you.

  • @jackruss4
    @jackruss4 Před 11 lety

    Was wondering why bark river is a better white compound than other brands. Is it the concentration of oxide or the type of oxide. Please explain. Thank you.

  • @mooseyou2
    @mooseyou2 Před 13 lety +1

    very useful information
    thank you for sharing it
    -boyce

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 11 lety

    Bark River says Black is coarse, Green is medium, and White is fine. I used to use the Green after the Black. But I didn't feel the Green did anything better after the Black. So I switched the Green to the White to finish up the edge. Then the edge got twice as sharp. Any of my strops have no difference of the nap texture between each side. Thanks.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 12 lety

    To survive Dooms day or such, I will carry my 3V Bravo1. The 3V steel is fairly rust resistant and although it is prone to chipping, the size and the number of the micro chippings are very small and the edge itself holds extraordinarily long. So without sharpening it is expected to serve me as a knife for a very long period like a couple of week survival situation or such. But for hunting it is a bit bulky and heavy, hence I like Fallkniven TK2 too. The two purposes don't stand together IMO.

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 13 lety

    @marcbolan88 I have ever experienced 4 kinds of leather strops. And the DLT leather takes compounds extraordinarily well far beyond the others, and its stropping result is also far beyond the others. I have never experienced other compounds. I just know the Bark River black and white compounds make a great edge. They are selling at Crystal Falls Trading or DLT Trading. Thanks.

  • @secretsquirrell13
    @secretsquirrell13 Před 13 lety

    Hey friend would you recommend using sand paper #600 to #1000 with a mousepad on a bark river KSF recluse? then give it a few swipes on the white to finish, or no sand paper?

  • @virtuovice
    @virtuovice  Před 12 lety

    @scdave100 I guess the abrasive particles in the green compound is too small to make a micro convex bevel or restore micro problems efficiently, and too large to make a razor edge. So I love the black compound too. Thanks.

  • @kawala006
    @kawala006 Před 12 lety

    Hi
    In your opinion what is the best Survival/Hunting knife. Is it the Falkniven TK2 or some other brand ? please give ma an straight answer

  • @joesquat2891
    @joesquat2891 Před 10 lety

    what is the orange folding knife you use to open up the packing on your strop at around 5:45? it looks really nice

  • @catfishBG
    @catfishBG Před 12 lety

    Hi ,can I use the white bark river compound for removing stains ? I have an S30 v blade which stained ,after cutting food . Which compound, if not white would you suggest ? Thank you .

  • @vjanda1
    @vjanda1 Před 12 lety

    White compound = insane scary sharp !!!

  • @wolf9174
    @wolf9174 Před 9 lety

    Good job.

  • @Oldschool503
    @Oldschool503 Před 10 lety

    Thanks!!