AIZEN VS YHWACH - Could Aizen DEFEAT Yhwach in the Final Battle? | Bleach TYBW Discussion
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In the final battle of Bleach, could Aizen defeat Yhwach alone? Imagine if Ichigo, Renji, and Uryu never made it - the fate of the universe rests on Aizen's shoulders. Can he possibly win? Let's examine the scenario!
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Imagine if Ichigo, Renji, and Uryu never made it - could Aizen save the Bleach universe alone? Let me know your thoughts down below!
I don’t think so. Almighty is just too broken
AIZEN is a key player but never the key of victory I believe honestly
Aizen couldn't put a scratch yhwach. Only ichigo has the ap capable of actually damaging the quincy king. Kyoka suigetsu was his saving grace. Even then the moment yhwach realizes he's unde it, he breaks it and puts a hole through aizen. Aizen is powerful but he's not on sk yhwachs level.
Tommo if the anime is made as an complemente to the manga, it is obivous that Yuha will win, he stated that he can kill Aizen and the only reason he do not do it for now is it will take time and in that momente he dont have the time nescessary to do this.
I think kyoka suigetsu is the ability, with which Aizen can spit in the face of God
Yhwach: *claims to hate violence*
Also Yhwach: *Attacks a man tied to a chair*
Aizens Bankai is the biggest variable here imo, so frustrating we have literally no clue what it could be. Aizen's Bankai augmented by the Hyogyoku could be something insane.
Honestly it would have been cool if it worked like izanagi. Where his shikai puts his opponent in a illusion his bankai would make his illusions reality. I guess similar to Grammy but not in a way where your are limited by imagination.
I feel like it couldve been a factor, but if he didnt use it in the battle against what is essentially God, whose whole plan was to assimilate and merge the worlds, then it might be one of those ones that requires a very specific situation to be used in.
I like to think that Aizen himself is the bankai. He took over the original user who first activated bankai.
@@seel2835 true especially with Aizen’s intelligence. It would have been a great time for Aizen to pull a bankai. Kubo should have just put it in seeing as he wrote himself into a corner with the arrow and ichigo cutting him in half. Obviously had time constraints but if there was a time, this would have been it. Really didn’t like how ichigo bankai was never explained or if he got another ability. Hopefully we’ll get something in the anime
For what he mentioned, his Bankai isn't at variable anymore, he fused completely with his sword, meaning he was already at his peak shinigami power. So a Bankai would be like descending in powe level
I hope that final battle has some major changes to it when it's shown in the anime. I think everyone would love to see Aizen's Bankai
I hope they leave it to be a surprise. And not spoil it in the trailer like Shinji's. It wouldav been so awesome seeing him use bankai out of nowhere but we're going into the second cour expecting Shinji's Bankai.
I think it will be changed and greatly expanded upon. Just look what the anime did with ichigo and Yhwachs first encounter, went from one attack in the manga to a whole fight, and showed a new move from Yhwach. It’s safe to say that the last fight will get the same treatment
It wont change but it will expand on it
Ain’t he like two stages above bankai? and what would his bankai even be
aizen dont have a bankai or he doesnt use it
If he could've he would've
Slick a valid point
That’s false …… ichigo is his experiment,, he’d want to see it through that ichigo does it …..
@@gralegambino1433 Experiment!!! Please stop the CAP!! Ichigo WAS his Experiment, but Ichigo broke out of that Fate when he defeated Aizen.
@@toyinaboko-cole2015 no tf he didn’t 😂😂😂 at the end of the manga it comes full circle Aizen started the plan just for the Quincy return …….
Aizen ain't beating this dude even if he had Banakai he still wouldn't win the dude had the Almighty, Soul King power, absorbed Ichibei's power, and Yama's Bankai yeah.... Nobody beating this dude 1v1 and not even close
You should do a video discussing whether or not Renji was even there at the final fight.
After Aizen is removed from the battlefield he isn't seen again. Renji likely wouldn't even be able to hurt Yhwach at this point and Yhwach notes that Aizen wouldn't protect Renji. Aizen wouldn't do this, we even directly see him attack a shinigami previously in the arc.
I suspect Renji never joined the fight against Yhwach, simply Kyoka suigetsu made an image of Renji in Yhwach's mind.
Yeah, I've come to think that over time too.
@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 he disappears completely and his bankai didn't remain broken despite us seeing his break. We all know how Bankai work with being broken, however Orihime could still probably heal his bankai as she did with Ichigos. Especially after Yhwach is defeated. Tsukishima could create another new timeline that wasn't affected by Yhwach's changes.
Renjis only contribution is when he gets his arm cut off and gets blown away, however Aizen is then missing his left arm so we KNOW in this instance it was Aizen looking like Renji because of KS
Renji was never there. You even see renji's snake bones from zabimaru still fading away despite the present body being ichigo's.
Renji was never there. Who is telling y'all this?
@@dinomoney2142 as said I don't believe he was there but alot of people do
Let’s face it guys. The Almighty is too broken for even Aizen to handle without help or plot armor.
Or bankai
Its why he had the hougyoku, he was forcing himself to evolve to actualize his plan before Yuha woke up and restore his power.
@@fiore0364 * steals bankai * YOU IDIOT I JUST STOLE YOUR STUPID BANKAI HAHAHAHA
Of course is too broken and I'm glad that Kubo make it op the way it is because comes from the creator of Bleach verse, Soul King alive was probably close to omnipotence.
@@felipez3115it's bad writing to make a villain so hax that the only way he can ve defeated us by a dues ex machina.
A couple of corrections:
1. The Kurohitsugi Aizen did on himself back in the Shinigami HQ wasn't full power since he didn't do the incantations.
2. Aizen does regenerate. The last chapter of Bleach showed Aizen with all his injuries gone.
And although this isn't really a correction but rather a speculation, I'd like to think what caused KS to deactivate was Yhwach physically touching Aizen. It's pretty much known that Aizen fused with his zanpakuto and since he already used KS on Yhwach before off of a look, then it's safe to assume the weakness of KS is also essentially imbedded into Aizen as well. If touching the zanpakuto before makes one immune to the illusions, then perhaps touching Aizen's current form would be the same.
Point 1 is true but clearly he was unable to break out which is why Yhwach had to do it
The Almighty has the ability to see and alter the future; he was put under its spell before he attained The Almighty, and therefor, he can't change being under its spell, as all futures he is apart of are are preceded by their interaction where he is put under the spell of KS.
That being said, with Aizen, he's really beyond logic, and could have made that the illusion he wanted Ywach to see, in order to instill a false sense of hope.
@@--...--...--... How i see it, the Almighty can't distinguish illusions between reality because at the end of the day, both are still possible futures in his visions. I don't think it's necessarily because he was placed under the spell prior to activating his Almighty. Plus, KS deactivating soon after Yhwach stabbed Aizen kinda suggests that touching the latter did indeed do something to the spell. But again, that's just my interpretation, yours is ok as well.
The last point makes a lot of sense kind of like when Yamamoto grabbed aizens arm during the fake town ark
@--...--...--... this is true but I also don't understand how Yhwach broke out of Ichimojis effects tbh. I think Kubo just decided to suck Aizen off and make him powerful enough to be relevant in the final fight.
Remember that Ywach pierced Aizen’s body so he comes into contact with the KS core power which dispels the illusion. The same reason why Yama knew it was Aizen when he was pierced by the sword or why the illusion ended when Halli was hit by it. Therefore, it’s not unreasonable to assume that the same thing happened when Aizen was pierced by Ywach.
Exactly what I was thinking
But Aizen ability still worked while Yhwach impaled him.
Yhwach would win
Gin said about touching his blade before its realesed. What if he used KS shikai to hypno and slashed with it.
Aren't you supposed to say something when touching the blade to break of KS's illusions?
@@skyreapery2n164 well he is the blade now so you just need to touch him.
With the way the anime handled the Yamamoto versus Fake Juha battle. I hope Aizen versus Juha gets a full or at least sizeable portion of the episode dedicated to it.
Bro they will fix that fight bc its already rushed
Seeing how rushed the manga was, there's a chance we could maybe get a look at Aizen's bankai in the anime. Won't be this season though if it gets animated.
@@Chaviasmusic Kubo is quite involved in the anime so I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw extra bankai’s. I believe he wants to redeem what happened with the second half of the arc and how poorly the ending was received.
A couple of thoughts about this prompt.
Firstly, I think maybe because Yhwach was touching Aizen, it counts as Kyoka Suigetsu's weakness. It's speculation of course, but Aizen did fuse with his blade so perhaps grabbing Aizen now removes the illusion.
Second, I think if push came to shove, and with Aizen being the last bastion, the Hogyoku would wake up to make Aizen evolve again if Aizen really wished to protect his Soul Society, but more refined possibly. Maybe it would be where Aizen's beyond bankai form comes in lol.
Gin explained perfectly why the illusion drops when Aizen attacks. You're in contact with his blade and the effects are dispelled when in contact with Kyoka Suigetdu
Gin said you had to touch the blade before being under hypnosis.
I'd say maybe given Aizen is immortal and his drive to stand upon the heavens means he'd go all out. He sees an obstacle as a challenge to his godhood.
Story wise...no...1v1 death battle type ish...possibly
Aizen is not in fact immortal. When u get back into Yhwach's first meeting with Sosuke he stated that killing him could have taken a lot of time and this was kind of the reason why Yhwach wanted to convince Aizen to side with him. So once again -He is not in fact immortal.
@@sathuria_pendragonthere's different types of immortality and limits to said immortality.
@@sathuria_pendragon Well against time few can claim immortality, for all we know what Yuha was talking about could have taken years to accomplish. But we also know that aizen managed to survive yuha seemingly eating him? whatever happened to him he managed to live through it. And this was a yuha that was not even comparable to the one that said the words you noted. So if almighty yuha couldnt kill aizen, who can?
@@alispeed5095 Based on previous Yhwach speech u can clearly tell that u would have to use some kind of time worthy method in order to bond away Hogyoku from Aizen's soul which as a final result granted Sosuke the immortality. It's no argument that "if SK empowered Yhwach couldnt do that then who can". Yhwach clearly HAD a method. I mean there's no point to even argue it. I don't even know what an argument that is. FYI almighty Yhwach couldn't achieve his goals after all and got defeated as a result by the combined forces of Ryuken, Ichigo and Aizen. So it's not even an argument. Yhwach (as tite kubo stated in the moment I mentioned) HAD a way. It was just too time consuming. and the almighty "aspect" of yhwach is not an argument. Due to his ultimate defeat at the end :p Hogyoku is after all a thing that was out of reach for Soul King aswell one could say that it's even an anomaly. If you use the same logic u brought then ask urself why didn't Yhwach achieve his goals with his Soul King-empowered form? If he was so powerful. It's just invalid logic. Aizen's immortality was granted to extreme extend by Hogyoku, and u can clearly tell Yhwach had a method, was willing to carry over aizen to his side cause considered it as a threat. One of the special war threads. Just cause of that, and since time was a limiting factor that ultimately doomed him well u can clearly see why he did not bother with it.
I might be wrong here but I assumed that Kyouka Suigetsu's general weakness was the same as Tousen's, that anyone directly touching the blade could see through its effects. That's why his deception is always revealed when he retaliates and cuts someone, because in that moment he's touched them with his blade. It makes sense that when Yamamoto was stabbed by him, and Aizen asked how he knew he was real, Yama said "I could never mistake this riatsu in my gut" (something like that). Based on that observation, Gin made sure to touch Kyouka Suigetsu before activating his own Bankai when he attacked Aizen in the real Kurakura Town...
Given that Aizen kinda fused with Kyouka Suigetsu and his shown both using and not using a physical blade against Ywach, and puts Ywach under Kyouka Suigetsu without the physical blade in Muken, I'd assumed that Kyoka Suigetsu's weakness transfered to his whole body. Ywach could finally see through the illusion because he put his hand through Aizen's chest, therefore touching Kyouka Sugeitsu. Up until that point, Aizen had been foghting with Kido and I dont think they made physical contact...
When Ywach says Kyouka Suigetsu was undone, that may have been either because he had literally punched through it or because he technically died.
I could be entirely wrong here (maybe my memory is inaccurate) but that's always how i interpreted that fight.
Nice one 👍
He never really broke out the hypnosis.... And also you have to touch his (Aizen) zanpakuto before he activates it... But during the fight he had it active ALL the time
You need to reread the manga again.. Gin said that you have to touch it before it activated KS not after Aizen already using KS.
@@rein1329 Yet he still touched it before attacking Aizen. And Yamamoto said he could feel Aizen's/Kyouka Suigetsu's riatsu through the sword when he was stabbed. That statement and Gin's actions make it evident that he touching the sword provide some protection against it.
@@ajay_omega8967 It isn't and yamamoto never break free from it and never stated anywhere other than headcanon, he have better chance to sense Aizen because his sword was already inside his stomach.
There are isn't a single statement who said touching the sword provide some protection against KS. Go read the Manga again.
Actually since you are prob never read it directly let me quote it for you using official translation:
>>Chapter 414: The only way to escape Kyoka Suigetsu"s power is to "touch" the blade "before complete hypnosis" has been activated.
Just touching the blade will do nothin if they already under KS.
If you slightly alter the question to "Could Aizen hold him off long enough, alone, for Uryu to get there and use the Stillsilver Arrow?", I think the answer is yes, he would have delayed at first and used mind games while thinking of an initial plan. Uryu would show up soon enough, and they would ewin it.
Well the only reason that silver arrow worked was due to Yhwachs own negligence and Haschwalth placing the vision into his mind while he was asleep thus making him believe it was a dream
@@kakashihatake1029they really need to expand on uryu and the arrow in the anime
@@keenfuturehe can use antithesis hopefully in a clear way to beat him.
21:14 you mentioning the vengeful souls of the quincies Yhwach has killed makes me hope that when the anime gets to it, we get see the spirits of all the quincies Yhwach turned his back on showing up and visually pulling him down. It'd be nice to see Misaki and Katagiri show up one last time to help out their sons.
The reason why Aizen shikai ended in this particular moment is because Gin Ichimaru said it himself. If you touch kyoka suigetsu you aren’t effected by it. Aizen literally fused with his sword. So if you touch him the effect fades. Yhwach was touching him continuously while he was impaled.
That’s my theory.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you need to touch it before you fall under its spell? Like once you fall under Kanzen Saimen, it cant be undone unless Aizen chooses to undo it. Touching KS should only make it so you cant fall under Kanzen Saimen in the first place, IIRC
i actually cant remember if its before or during myself. but if what you said is true, its definitely an excellent point! @@AjarTadpole7202
Aizen’s the only character that you cannot be that mad about somebody saying “we didn’t see him going all out, so we do not know.”, he never used his bankai, he lost because apparently he wanted to lose according to Ichigo, he was not thinking properly, he was hardly even thinking logically, he was acting more like Kenpachi. Also he can adapt, and make it so his power can surpass his foes. I could actually see him killing or absorbing Yhwach, and possibly gaining his brave souls 6th anniversary design.
What if aizen never had a bankai, and he used his shikai to make everyone believe he mastered bankai. Just a thought crossed my mind
But don't forget as well they was nerfing a good portion of his spiritual pressure cause remember when he wanted to get out of the chair or shoot down the sole king's palace the captain of squad 12 as well as the captain of squad 8/1 captain kyorraku explained to him he has limiters put in place internally that limited his abilities so What you saw and what he did in hado number 90 who's to say that's the strongest output he could have done with that? Also Yhwach made it perfectly clear it would be difficult for him to kill him so at a certain point he would have to put himself in a predicament that would put him in a range of being attacked or fatally wounded by Aizen,since he's fused with the Hyokoku
@@colgatemlp6368na its been stated that aizen mastered everything the soul society has to offer
@@colgatemlp6368 it’s unlikely, he didn’t just master everything the shimigami’s had to learn, but he evolved beyond it. That, and he’s a pure genius who experimented on the evolution between Quincy’s, hollows, and soul reapers. It’s hard to do that if you cannot even evolve the shimigami side.
Ichigo didn't say Aizen lost because he wanted to lose, he said he returned to being a normal shinigami because that's what he wanted deep down, I don't think Aizen could have killed Yhwach precisely because of that, he returned to being a normal shinigami, and the fact that he banked on Ichigo finishing the job instead of doing it himself proves he couldn't have done it.
I think I may know why the illusion is broken. As you mentioned the illusion is broken on Halibel and Hitsuguya as well, and the reason IS because they are getting hit. Remember the weakness of his Zanpakto is that, when someone is touching it they can’t be effected. So even when someone is slashed with it, technically they are in contact with his sword so the illusion will be broken. And after Aizen became a butterfly his Zanpakto fused with him if I remember correctly. So when Uha stabbed him with his arm he is in contact with the Zanpakto in a way so the illusion is worn off.
An Aizen video will always get a thanks from me. As for the illusion being broken after Aizen gets stabbed, maybe it’s because the same rule still applies that if you’re touching his zanpakuto it’s power stops working on you. And since him and his zanpakuto are one now, that means touching him.
Unfortunately I think you’re right that he would probably lose to Ywach in a 1v1 lol, but I choose to believe that his Bankai was his real Ace card that he never had to use. Maybe it’s something like a “Shatter” ability like what you said in your Aizens bankai theories video. I could totally see him holding up his sword and saying “Bankai… now Revolt, Kyoka Suigetsu” giving him the power to shatter any ability that tries to assert control over him. Like Ywachs almighty power to choose his future. That would also play into Aizens character of not accepting anyone ruling over him or choosing his future.
Its definitely an interesting question, and one worth debating Tommo!
i was under the impression that Aizen still had the majority of his power "Sealed". Wasn't that what the eye patch and parts of his clothing (like the straps on his arms, ect.) were supposed to symbolize? i always thought the reason Aizen wasnt able to beat Ywach with just his spiritual pressure alone was because of that, and that was the real reason why Ywach made him a special threat because of his spiritual pressure.
all the seals do is reduce range not density or power
@@bigmeme6409 that's kind of a huge deal though. Aizen uses his power to influence. That power being contained around him prevents him from fully projecting it
@@bluemoon1716 we are talking about against yhwach, what is projecting spiritual pressure going to do? We see that he is in comfortable range for shikai and kido there's really not much the seals are effectively doing
Do you know how powerful and high yhwach SP also is before dreaming that aizen should have defeated someone like yhwach with SP if he wasn't sealed 🤣😂. So because he made him a special threat because of his SP now suddenly turned yhwach to grimmjow level character that aizen could beat with his SP. Just keep thinking about it in your head alone. It's sometimes pitiful to be a fanboy because you just keep thinking weird stuffs like the one you just did lol.
@@lexogun1311 😚
Aizen is probably one of the best villians in all anime, but Yuha's power will destroy Aizen, no debateble
Sure if we're talking him at max power(having absorbed the Soul King). That's just not really fair. However, I think Aizen might win against him without the Soul Kings power. Though it really depends on how much the Soul Kings power buffed the Almighty which is hard to guess.
it all depends on what Aizen's bankai is, since his shikai is already broken.
Give Aizen a thousand years.
Hygyoku solo yhwach, aizen didn't kill yhwach himself because he wanted ICHIGO to WIN, it's really not hard to understand, go read the manga again
@@quincyKidoare you kidding? Yhwach whitouth plot arrow is invincible.
Mr. Tommooooo, very nice analysis!!!!!
This has become my favorite series of yours!
Time for a heavyweight hypothetical. Komamura vs Kensei!
You know I was thinking Ichigo sisters have the exact same power is that he does they just need to unlock it like how rukeya unblock Ichigo powers
I think it's worth mentioning that even without the chair, Aizen is still under a bunch of bindings. Shunsui only unlocked 3 of the... like 20 seals, if the floor in chapter 617 is all of them. Even Aizen's _clothes_ were built to bind his reiatsu. We're still seeing a fairly restricted Aizen during his fight with Bachi.
This is something people never mention it seems like they do forget about it unless I’m forgetting they mention it don’t affect him but it’s highly likely that he is still being held back and that in reality it’s only like 5% of his power
@@iDungToMuch it only limits the range for his SP bot power. he is always at 100% but you need to real close to him to be affected by him.
@@sarthakarora3212nd that ended once the chair was destroyed.
Aizen himself even remarks that the remainder of his seals are gone. Idk what those two guys above are talking about.
@@josephsmiley1Aizen's eye is literally being sealed the whole fight, wtf are you talking about?
@@sarthakarora3212 you do realize that limiting range of SP is the same as reducing it's effect and potency thousands of times? Aren't you concerned about being pierced by a needle with a width of 5 mm versus 20 cm? Why do you perceive range of application differently then? In a battle, the range makes the difference from "having slight advantage" to "impossible to win"
I'm really tired about people doing copy pasta without thinking for themselves
Great vid but without Aiken’s bankai, without those seals taken off. And in the actual situation where its just Aizen (he doesnt sense ichigo arriving) so, he in his own mind, would know he has to stop yhwach. Therefore his will would change, which would likely cause a different response from the hogyoku, we can never know. Did I mention Aizen has a bankai? An aizen stalling, with a hogyoku not sensing Aizen himself needing to do the entire killing by himself, knowing Kubo wasn’t going to make Aizen’s bankai appear so its as if he doesnt have one IS DIFFERENT to what AIzen could have theoretically done completely unbound. Great vid
Nice video man
I love Aizen Sosuke.
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I thought the answer was pretty clear at the end:
No.
Love the vids
Could you do a video on the Valley Of Screams? I'd be interested to have the fullbringers interaction with it explained and to also have the differences in it between the memories of nobody and the manga as well.
Unfortunately nothing except the stillsilver arrow can stop Yhwach at this point. Aizen could tag team with Urahara, Kisuke, Zaraki, Ichiho, Kyoraku, Renji; the list goes on, and nothing would change. Yhwach can simply revive himself from another timeline. That is how insanely broken his power is. Only through the stillsilver arrow does The Almighty stop working for a brief moment. That is the only window of opportunity where he can be killed.
You know honestly thinking. Couldn’t he just think of a timeline where he brings himself back ever after being hit by the arrow, and that would explain why he actually did it
I think it goes back to what gin said about touching kyoka suigetsu. Once you touch the blade maybe the illusion ends in the same way that gin mentioned.
I'd like to see more of these what if series? I have a suggestion, during the Fake Karakura town arc, when Shinji charged at Aizen and was almost killed by Tousen only to be blocked by Kaumaura, what if he was not blocked and we got to see Hirako Shinji vs Kaname Tousen? It would be interesting fight, that ultimately I think tousen would take as most of Shinji's abilities would not work on a blind Tousen unless he can drive him to his final release.
Yall already know kubo is gonna go crazy with the final battle of the TYBW in the bleach anime, who knows what he may add, personally i hope we see both aizens bankai and ichigo's bankai fleshed out
I think he could if the hogyoku were to reactivate and began transcending Aizen further once again.
Your videos butter My biscuits thank you
So, I want this video of yhwach vs all war potentials.
In my opinion, Aizen sensed ichigo’s arrival therefore stopping for a moment for what seems as the window he created for ichigo to getsuga tenshou yhwach. After that, they both thought the battle Is over but suddenly yhwach eliminated the big threat of Aizen by absorbing him. If they knew it wasn’t over, there might have been a chance where AiEn would actually have to resort to using his bankai. Just a speculation on my part seeing that Aizen never truly reveals all his cards at once and does so only when absolutely necessary, it’s in his character and his bankai is supposedly his last resort in this situation given that yhwach revived without absorbing Aizen at that very moment.
Ichigo was more of a threat to Yhwach than Aizen ever was, infact, if we are going by the war potential lists, threads 1) Ichigo, 2nd) Kenpachi, 3rd) Ichibe 4th) Aizen, 5th) Urahara. Before Kenpachi lost to Royd, he was the biggest threat to Yhwach and his over all plans.
Whether you like it or not or come back with "WEL KENPACHI ISNT EVEN STRONGER THAT ICHIGO OR AIZEN", that is irrelevant because that is exactly how the War Potentials list was written by Kubo himself.
@@thejammyproject bro what r u on about? U Rli came here crying and fighting over a comment? 🥴who hurt u man, grow up lol
@@msb3782 Stating simple facts kid.
@@thejammyproject lmao alright 🤣 go fight somewhere else kiddo
@@msb3782 I mean if you had basic reading skills you would of already known all this reading the Manga as well as the lore readily available online. But you retards just like to make up your own shit all time.
Probably not, but I would like to believe he could somehow.
he'd defeat juha bach absolutely
it's just he's not the main protagonist
@@meow-ic6gzNo just don't dude... Be honest with yourself... Yhwach claps Aizen
@@nhlakaniphojack5056 lol
if the hogyoku acknowledge aizen as it's master then he'd clap the entire wandenriech no diff
@@meow-ic6gzdo kindly explain how he would beat Yhwach on his own???
@@nhlakaniphojack5056 hogyoku grants the user to materialize their wishes and desires into reality
on top of it's user would also become the perfected both hollow and shinigami
14:40 it probably is breaking the illusion since the weakness of Kiyoka Suigetsu is that its effect is cancelled when u touch its blade like gin did, meaning if Aizen cuts you, you would be touching his blade, cancelling the effect.
I had always thought of it another way, Gin tells us that the only way to tell if you're under the effect or not, is touching Aizen's blade, and since he'd absorbed his zanpalto then touching him should still show you the truth, at least that was my thought, and I thought Urahara got the hogyoku out of Aizen when the sealing spell he put on him went into affect. Maybe that was anime only but i could swear there was a scene of him holding it after that weird thorned cross was there
Why Yhwach did not see the arrow coming is still a mystery to us all.
People are speculating that Uryu's The Antithesis makes him immune to The Almighty however we don't know the exact mechanic of his ability. Jugram with The Almighty couldn't predict Uryu. He even admitted that The Antithesis can be a perfect counter against The Almighty.
@@zaiminnosi2905 Is one of those things fans overheat their brains to come up with an answer. The reality is this was something poorly written as a lot of things in this arc, we should just admit that and be at peace instead of blindly defending what was only once a great series.
@@gemodemplay415 Not really, Kubo foreshadowing it multiple times already. He just don't have times to properly show The Antithesis. Hopefully the anime will give more explanation.
@@gemodemplay415Wish the arrow rearranged or used for something instead have all 5 war potentials vs S.K. Ychwach ( stolen C.Yam ) in all out Soul-Society destructive battle.
I definitely think Aizen was the best matchup for Yhwach, but The Almighty is just WAY too broken. Would’ve been nice if Aizen went Bankai or confirmed that Kyoka Suigetsu was in fact his bankai though 😢
I think his bankai is just not as useful as his shakai
This video creates and interesting question for me.
IF Aizen was the last line of defense for soul society, what kind of ability would Kubo create for Aizen in order to rival the power of "Almighty" in order to make it an epic and satisfying final battle
I think the thing is different, I don't remember exactly where but I remember that Aizen has been stated to be able to evolve to the point of transcending everything and standing at the same levels of the soul king, If he happened to gain such power while fighting Yhwach then probably not even "the almighty" would have been of help against him
Yhwach’s first attempt to kill Aizen resulted in him being accidentally freeing Aizen from the chair.
Yhwach’s second attempt just resulted in KS being used on the Almighty.
Yhwach’s 3rd attempt managed to temporarily immobilize Aizen the same way Ichigo did with the final Getsuga Tensho…..but as we all saw…Aizen came back
Like he always does. At his strongest state he couldn’t permanently kill Aizen.
Eventually Aizen would evolve to a state stronger than Yhwach. Might take a while…but Aizen is a patient man that doesn’t mind waiting for his plans to work out.
Regardless…let’s not forget that KS was strong enough to do 2 things to the almighty:
1)Affect the Almighty’s sight of the future
2) Tricking Yhwach’s Almighty into thinking it’s fighting 3 people when it’s just 1 person.
I doubt a couple slivers of the soul king will be able to bring aizen anywhere close to the level of yhwach
@@bigmeme6409dude, Aizen was tanking the sternritter abilities lile they were flies. 😅 Shunsui even comments on this when Nana tried to use his power on Aizen and it only lasted for less than 5 minutes. 😅 Aizen is a trascendant being
@@lordlightning2339 how about you read what I wrote and then explain how anything you wrote holds any relevance in this discussion
Pretty Yhwach intentionally destroyed the chair and wasn't aiming his attack specifically at Aizen... Even if you try to deny its easily provable as Yhwach was able to effortlessly damage Aizen punching a hole and ripping off his arm...if he's able to damage after he is free from the chair. why wouldn't he able to damage Aizen when he is restrained to the chair and can't move? That makes no sense
@@nhlakaniphojack5056 what makes no sense is your claim that he deliberately wanted to free Aizen from the chair after Aizen made it clear to him in Muken he wasn’t interested in joining him.
“Ah yes, the guy i labeled as a war potiential…lemme just free you so you can get in my way instead of killing you on the spot to prevent any of your shenanigans.”
That’s what you just basically said.
I really like the notion of Aizen deactivating his shikai on purpose after thinking they had won. It would say a lot about him as a character. Not only that he was overconfident. But it also kinda shows trust towards Ichigo in that he dropped all illusions and isn’t trying to pull anything funny. Which would be huge for Aizen bc pulling one over on people is literally his whole deal.
Wouldn’t matter for ichigo as he was never under it and has touched kyoka s blade he is immune
yup mr tommo big speculation
He would need the hogyoku to do something we haven’t seen before like grant him a new (broken) ability but what could be more broken than rewriting the future? (Respira imo)
I wonder how strong Aizen would be if all his seals were taken off
Same here. I feel like he is forgetting that Aizen has most of his power sealed.
Yeah Aizen's strength is his SP. Not being able to fully exert his massive pressure was a huge handicap
@@bluemoon1716 bro it didn't sealed his power the chair did that and it was destroyed mayuri explain this 🙄🙄
@@andrerussell5130 the chair was part it. Read the manga, shunsui unlocks seals on aizens body.
@@bluemoon1716CHAPTER 618: Aizen himself says that "such gross carelessness these bindings don't seal away my reaitsu they only confine it to the space around me" The Seals only bind his reaitsu close to him... They don't affect his output or power... Hence why the kido corps member almost disintegrated when trying get close and touch Aizen.. His reaitsu is still transedent like it was after fusing with the Hogyoku
I think Aizen was able to easily win each time since the beginning of the story but needed to make sure than the Hell arc and Burn the witch stories happen for his ultimate goal
@MrTommo2304 13:48 Aizen essentially became one with His Sword at the end his fight with Ichigo, and his ability's weakness, as found out by Gin, was that if you touch the sword, you're immune from its effects.
So, by Touching Aizen, you essentially have the same effect occur! :D
I really also wish to see a fight between Aizen and Jugram, cause then their battle would be awesome
Unless Aizen’s Bankai is too become Tite Kubo, the Almighty Rules All. Even if some possibilities are false because of Aizen, Bach sees all possibilities as grains of sand.
Ichigo’s enemies each presented a part of Ichigo’s history.
Aizen - Controller of the Past
Ginjou - Controller of the Present
Bach - Controller of the Future
Unless ALL possible Outcomes lead to Bach’s Defeat. Aizen will lose to Bach and since both are immortal, both will just eventually rejuvenate.
Agree a lot with that final point. However the controller of the past is undoubtedly Tsukishima even if wasn't the main villain
One more speculation: if Aizen, without using bankai could fooled Yhwach, maybe with a bankai he could fool his All Mighty.
didn't Aizen merge with his Zanpakuto? isn't that why he can trap people in illusions when they simply stare at him.
@@jaredfrancis5062yes
Aizen already fooled almighty with shikai
@@jaredfrancis5062then I’ll ask the stone hashira from demon slayer to kill aizen. He’s blind he don’t have to stare at him
@@gabrielvarca Its because he used it before the allmighty yhawch when they first went into contact, he then breaks out of it on his own accord using the almighty when he realised it
I’m sure someone said this already but god I can’t wait to see this animated
14:45 I think I’ve got the answer! The weakness of kyokasuigetsu is touching it as you can’t go into absolute hypnosis while doing so. That’s why the illusion shatters every time someone is being stabbed. So now that Aizen has fused with his zanpakutto touching Aizen is the equivalent of touching the blade so the illusion shatters again
Gut reaction is saying no. Almighty is just so fucking busted that even someone like Aizen would get overwhelmed. He also didn’t have time to plan or come up with something that could possibly temporarily stop that power like the silver arrow and Uryu.
Overall I do hope they flush out that fight more. Seeing him do 3-4 cool things then just get eaten and removed from the story till the end sort of sucked. He won’t win but he’d be a problem
Well we know that when it had come to Aizen’s zanpakuto if you placed your hand on it you could not be affected by it’s illusions.
Maybe any form of contact, like being slashed by it could do the same.
Plus Aizen and his zanpakuto are pretty much one after his battle with Ichigo.
Impaling him may have a similar effect then.
Yeah, I figured this was the reason.
that's what I was thinking as well. This seems to be the most plausible answer.
since he merged with his zanpakuto - impaling him with his hand basically made Juha Yhwach touch his zanpakuto
No, you had to touch Kyoka Suigetsu before the release. Touching the sword after or during the release didn't do anything
If slashing by aizen sword can one get out to aizen KS then why renji who slash by Aizen still didn't get out to the effect of complete hypnosis?
I believe that only by touching aizen sword before release is the only way.
But I wonder... How it is possible now since aizen zanpakuto is already merge to him?
If we consider that Aizen go out his way to master kido this made even more sense, think about Aizen when he started his shinigame path, every time he atack his enemys his ilusion is broken, because of this he staterd to train his kido to the point he can use some of the most powerfull kido without an incantation, why someone who power never wear of without touching his zampakuto in the moment of realeasing shikai worked so hard to master kido otherwide
I remember one of the biggest fan theories about Aizen in this arc is about his Zanpakuto and where did it go? Aizen was still able to use its shikai effect from it and it was strong enough to effect Yhwach, people were always saying he perfectly merged with his zanpakuto and yadda yadda but he is one of the few characters we never see a bankai from so many would say in this senario sort of thing he would in turn use it in tandem with the hogyoku and put up a decent fight. The thing about an unknown power or an unused skill/ability in a series it quickly becomes headcanon and derails haha. To become a captain it must be known that you can use bankai is the thing so...yeah maybe kubo forgot it was a possibility for aizen which I oddly believe lol
aizen powers affect yhwach because aizen has more reatsu than 50 soul kings, yhwach will never beat aizen
14:44 The reason the illusion end it’s cause the contact with the blade possibly. Like how Gin said the only way to negate the hypnosis is to be touching the blade. So when he cuts these people it probably has a similar effect.
Didn’t Yhwach confirm the hogyoku still keeps Aizen “immortal” in the anime (which is canon because of Kubo’s influence)?
Yes, but he also implies he can kill Aizen, but doesn't want to waste his time doing so.
I think the illusion ends WITHOUT Aizen wanting it to end because it is how his power works now, after being fused with his Zanpaktou. Remember how Gin said the only way to not be under Kyoka Suigetsu's hypnosis is by touching the blade? Well, he fused with his blade, and that fusion was never undone. His blade may have "disappeared" but where did it "reappear" from if he had been tied up to the chair? It has to be because he is fused and can make it appear whenever. This would also be consistent with the earlier pre-Hyogoku battles, like when he stabs Harribel from behind and she then can see he is behind and not in front.
Aizen's illusions disappear because when you come into contact with Kyouka Suigetsu, the illusion dissipates. Gin Ichimaru tells us this before it can be activated, however. But it's just a reasonable assumption that coming into contact with the blade breaks the illusion.
Nah. We already saw that with Aizen helping Ichigo get a killing blow it STILL didn't work. The Almighty makes it so YH just says NO to being defeated. Thats why PLOT ARROW was needed. Aizen stands no chance alone. He would end up getting beaten down like he did against Ichigo before.
Even gin said yes kyoka suigetsu is a terrifying power no doubt but that's not why all the espadas fear and respect aizen, they fear and respect him because of his overwhelming power and speed, if it was just for his shikai they wouldn't respect him so much but even aizen knows his shikai alone wouldn't be enough to take over the world he needed the hokyugou to actually get more power too to fight people like yama and ichibe those two alone would be enough to earase aizen if didn't get the hokyugou
I think Kyoka suigetsu releases the illusion because since touching the zanpakuto is the only way to break the illusion according to what Gin said and since Kyoka suigetsu is now a part of Aizens body I think , would make sense that piercing Aizen would count as touching Kyoka suigetsu
I hope their battle is extended purely for the chance of them bantering and trying to one-up each other.
It's hard to say. Aizen's Shikai alone is able to stand against literal omniscient powers. If his Shikai is that strong, just what the hell is Aizen's Bankai?
It could be "weaker" like Shinji's bankai. That would be a decent reason behind him never using it.
My guess is that the whole reason why KS worked against Yuha in the first place is because he put Yuha under his spell prior to Yuha getting The Almighty.
Likely something that isn't nearly as useful. Otherwise he would have used it already.
Aixen would never use his Bankai. He sees himself as a being above all. Using his Bankai would be admitting he needs to rely on something beneath him.
He probably doesn’t have one he probably used KS to show a fake bankai to get captain status
I believe aizen would defeat ywach. Aizen, just like with everyone else he fought, was playing with ywach, testing his power just as Mayuri pointed out when he restricted his power. Plus with the hogyoku aizen has the potential to evolve again, endlessly, I doubt ywach can. Plus aizen still has his bankai, I doubt aizen was losing power and strength, he was too arrogant to take ywach seriously. Ywach is nothing special without the almighty, without it ywach would get bodied, aizen without his zanpoktou bodied the entire gotei 13 by himself.
Yhwach in his base Form was strong enough to Steal and Withstand Yamamoto's bankai... No other Sternritter was capable of stealing Yamamoto's bankai just as Yhwach says... Yamamoto's bankai still makes the strongest captain in tybw..Bankai Yamamoto ~Base Yhwach >> Aizen without Zanpakuto > Gotei 13... Also You are delusional if you think Yhwach is not Hogyoku special without the almighty lol
@@nhlakaniphojack5056you do know he was only able to steal it bc Lloyd rroyd 😂 making yama waste his moves on a clone
@@Indica64 no bro stop the Cap... You need to As strong as the person you are stealing the Bankai from or at least being at the same power level... Episode 6 of TYBW or chapter 510 of the Manga... Yhwach himself says to Yamamoto "BUT YOUR POWER IS SO STRONG THAT NO ONE OTHER THAN I CAN HANDLE IT".. confirming that Base Yhwach is at Yamamoto's level so you kindly stop denying it
@@nhlakaniphojack5056 bruh Cap it's str8 from manga that's y he use a clone to make him release his bankai and use most his powers because he would have been fucked and you can steal all but Ichigo
@@Indica64 Come on dude.. This shouldn't be a debate at all lol... Go watch episode 6 of TYBW right now and read what Watch says at 21:20 minutes into the episode or Reread Chapter 510... It completely debunks everything you say
14:00 wasn't it previously established that touching Kyokasuigetsu disables the illusion?
And since he fused with it it would mean that now touching Aizen himself would disable it
Before investing this 22 minutes into hearing the great Tommo's opinion(s), my answer is "DEFINITELY yes" 😂
Going with what we definitively know to flesh out my "yes": the "completely" sealed Aizen (who's had several extra seals added on top of the ones Kisuke used to initially seal him) is stronger than where he left off prior to getting sealed by Kisuke. The ✌🏾base✌🏾Juhabach that one shot Yamamoto was toyed with by "completely" sealed Aizen to where he (Juhabach) not only had his perception of time distorted, but every other Sternritter (who all hold a portion of Juhabach's soul😉) was effected along with him. Juhabach had not only performed Auschwalen on his super soldiers, but also absorbed the Soul King, and awakened his Almighty prior to the final Auschwalen when he met Aizen again but on the battlefield; the only thing since their initial meeting that changed for Aizen was he'd had three of his multiple seals removed them he and and his chair brought outside by Kyoraku so that he could use his (Aizen's) reiatsu to protect what was left of Seireitei. While the real/physical mostly sealed Aizen's doing this, ✌🏾he✌🏾 also using a portion of his reiatsu, assaults the very real Juhabach who's awakened his Almighty AND absorbed the core essence of the Soul King. In this fight Juhabach The Almighty saw literally everything EXCEPT how a fight with Aizen would go: after he'd served ✌🏾Aizen's✌🏾 arm and punctured ✌🏾Aizen's✌🏾 chest, ✌🏾Aizen's✌🏾 response to this was "So you think you're fighting Ichigo, interesting..." because the real/physical Aizen was still sealed to that chair. The real Aizen was STILL literally gathering information and essentially toying with even this Juhabach; he was only biding time until the real Ichigo showed with the help of Tsukishima (who's Book Of The End is broken AF in itself) and Uryuu's special Quincy lore arrow.
In (my) conclusion (aka a brief summary), Aizen would cake walk Juhabach. Outside what I used to "build the case", when Kyoraku initially went to Aizen and released the one seal, Aizen got up and walked to him in a manner so realistic that he was shocked even though he knew the physical Aizen was still strapped to that chair. The shock was the reality that "We don't have to unleash Aizen, we can just remove a couple more seals and use Aizen's per to end this while still keeping Aizen himself in check" along with "Aizen is still the greatest risk to Seireitei". Based off removing that one seal and having firsthand experience with what the Quincy are doing outside, Kyoraku was able to gage that if he unleashed Aizen like he planned, it was ultimately over, so he gaged and only released THREE of Aizen's many seals before bringing him outside, and he chose wisely; because if he would've just removed one more seal Aizen would've mopped the floor with his reiatsu manipulations alone before using it to research and undo the rest of the seals and actually freeing himself completely. So the way a grown-up sees "Aizen vs Juhabach: Who Wins" is Aizen wins with just one out of however extra seals added on were, release one more seal and it's over for sure even considering Almighty Soul King Juhabach was fighting a figment of Aizen's imagination via his Zanpaktou.........vs.........what current modern day folk are calling "Horn of Salvation" Ichigo after being blessed with Zero Squad training, after being blessed with coming across Tsukishima using Book Of The End on him, after being blessed Uryuu gaining a shift and using it with his father's hidden lore/history to create a weapon before the schrift being removed, and all that coming together to defeat Juhabach. If Aizen wasn't there experimenting and playing with him to give them time to come physically assault him, that shit was over; Almighty Soul King Juhabach was LITERALLY fighting air believing it was Ichigo and Renji when it was Aizen still strapped to a chair playing with his Almighty Soul King head the entire time. So if the question is "Can Aizen win?" the only other answer besides "Duh" is "WHICH Aizen; Aizen with 3 seals removed, Aizen with a fourth removed, or fully released Aizen?"................and the answer's STILL "Duh" 😂😂😂😂
Aizens seals only limited his range. And he got help from Ichigo and Renji but all 3 still got bodied until Ishida arrived
Thanks bro, finally someone with sense here
I don’t think so. The Aizen we see fight Yhwach was at his full power using everything at his disposal and he still couldn’t even touch Yhwach. Because of the power of the SK enhanced Almighty, even if there was a modicum of chance that Aizen could be victorious, all Yhwach would have to do would be to rewrite the future.
I know alot of hardcore Aizen fans always mention the hogyoku and evolution, but not only did he NOT evolve in this fight against the strongest person he’s ever fought, but he got overwhelmed and was eventually knocked unconscious due to the assimilating process. This matchup is the unstoppable force vs the immovable obstacle through and through. Aizen and Ichigo were basically fighting God and were losing handily until the still silver was involved.
He didnt evolve because he had no desire for it, if he wanted to he wouldve
@@youcantmakethisup9048 That makes no sense at all though because Yhwach was literally the obstacle in the way of Aizen’s goals. His whole “no one rules over me” attitude and defiance were the main reasons he chose to oppose Yhwach in the first place. Remember, everything Yhwach had done while infiltrating the royal realm is what Aizen had intended to do as well, at least with the exception of merging the worlds, whereas Aizen wanted to stand in heaven and prove his point. Narratively, it makes zero sense for Aizen to be like “hmm, my greatest foe is right before me, but I have no desire to actually stop him from getting what he wants. Better not evolve.”
No, it was always going to have to be a group effort to take Yhwach down. Aizen is definitely powerful enough to still scrap with and give Yhwach the runaround which is a feat in and of itself compared to how easily endgame Yhwach stomps anything and everything except the original Soul King, but just like Ichigo couldn’t do it own his own, neither could Aizen. Hence why he stalled long enough for Ichigo to land that critical blow… before the mfer REWROTE HIS OWN DEATH!
I wouldn't call a onesided beat down a scrap.
Yhwach literally put hands on him. In fact Aizen never once harmed Yhwach. A lvl 99 kido got no sold.
Not a single person gave Yhwach a "scrap", they were all getting rag dolled and not even their plot armour abilities saved them (KS, Ichigo being MC, etc) literally none of them are a match to Yhwach, and got the most boring conclusion ever to a fight, a fucking arrow, how bad at story writing must you be you can't make your characters win with their own abilities that you need an arrow to do it for them.
aizen has hygyoku, that alone can erase yhwach from existance
@thejammyproject bro don't disrespect Tite Kubo you ignorant imb*cile, he had massive health issues and had to rush the ending, Tite Kubo is by far one of the best story writer
@@quincyKido Your on some serious drugs dude. The Hogyoku is weak compared to Yhwach and the only thing its capable of doing and been proven to do is give people more power including different levels of transformations (Aizen), or manifesting their untrained powers(Orihime/Chad). It hasn't been proven to do anything else, let alone kill anyone.
And the Almighty massively overpowers it.
Hey bro,i have an idea for next vid,who would win,Ichibei or Aizen?
Once Aizen strikes someone AKA they make contact with the blade the illusion and just like Tousen's Bankai keeping in mind they have the same weakness One of them takes control of all five senses The other one shuts down all five senses these abilities are negated if you are touching (body contact w/ the blade.
Easily. Aizen is the definition of OP.
Yhwach with the Sk+almighty+yama's bankai,also with multiple broken shrifts, it's just too much
And Aizen reiatsu is still>>>>>
@@gralegambino1433 and yet it didnt do shit in the final battle plus it can easily be debated that yhwach has more
@@Bozz00 it didn’t do shit ????? You do know hax don’t work if the opponent has more SP. Than you?? And yhwach named Aizen war threat for his reiatsu…….. and KS is reiatsu based ……. If yhwach was truly stronger he could break out whenever he wanted … BUT HE COULDNT …….. this is proved in the novels …… ks can be broken with overwhelming power ….. but Aizen was too strong ….
@@gralegambino1433 Your literally forgetting that if aizen had more reiastu, yhwach attacks wouldn't have even left a scratch like what happened between Kenny and ichigo and of course everybody knows reiastu can neg hax but he doesn't do that to the almighty
@@Bozz00 once again I’m not debating ….. it’s literally confirmed in novels
the thing about aizens bankai is that the potential is limitless.
it could nullify all power exept his own, it could destroy everything in a instant, it could make everything happen within a instant, hell, it could prolly do all 3 and use every single shikai, bankai, ressurecion, schrift, and voltstanding ability
or it could just not be correlated to his shikai at all
we prolly WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT HIS BANKAI DOES
Great video but i think there is still one more question that needs answered...
Does the hogyoku have the will / want to survive?
though it rejected Aizen their souls are still intertwined. If the hogyoku decides to not help Aizen (more than just healing) then I have no doubt that Yhwach could eventually destroy it. It has a will of its own and if it wants to survive It has to evolve Aizen to a level that is able to kill Yhwach. I have a feeling that even Aizen suspected this could be a possibility which is why he confronted Yhwach the way he did.
Considering Aizen's default expression is the Light Skin stare, yes I think he could handily defeat Yhwach...and the female Sternritter.
Aizen way cooler but yhwatch is way more hax and powerful it's pretty obvious
bro stop meat riding for aizen its cringe 😐😐😐😐😐😐
@@andrerussell5130 U mad bro? What's going on at home?
@@JustanothaGuy ur stupid to think aizen wasnt using full power then explain to me how aizen could use hado 99 without an incantation 🤨
Aizen would literally wear him down until he died. With the hogi alone and aizens will to be more powerful than ywach would decide this battle. I think people forget that he has the hogi. He can literally become more powerful with his will alone.
Gin explained the only way to get around Aizen’s total hypnosis is to be in physical contact with his blade, so it would make since that once he strikes someone with it the illusion would dissipate .
Remember that aizens zanpakto has 1 weakness that ichimaru pointed out, that as long as you touch his blade then the illusion breaks, so I would assume that also means being stabbed by it because you are now touching it (although you might not want to) said say the illusion breaks once ywach is contacted by aizens blade one way or another, even if that's by touching his body now that he is kind of fused with his sword
The illusion never ended until after the real ichigo arrived. Juha was still seeing ichigo even as Ichigo ran Juha through. It was just Kubos way of revealing to us the readers that it was really Aizen the whole time so we wouldnt be confused. Because some readers were actually still confused after the fact. Some readers still believed the Renji and Ichigo were there fighting alongside Aizen and didn't even catch on weeks after the manga chapter. Juha was still seeing Aizen up until Ichigo ran him through. Or perhaps the whole touching Kyoka Sueigetsu started to reveal the true Aizen since they were touching each other. Although Juha wasn't touching the blade, Aizen is fused with his zanpakuto so maybe touching him was enough to slowly reveal the true auzen.
Exactly. And as far as him talking about "the illusion ending when he cut harribel etc" Like, yeah, the blade cutting them = touching the blade. The whole reason Gin grabbed Aizen's blade is that it stops the illusion lol
What if Yhwach changed a future in which he saw Aizen say..........."Bankai". New video idea, your welcome.
I thought that aizen had fused with his zanpakuto. and since we know that the way to break out of the hypnosis is to be touching the blade, it makes sense that when aizen is skewered the hypnosis is broken. thats also why everyone sees him when they get cut by him.
The chair has such a big place in the Bleach fandom lol
I mean, he uses plans to beat people almost as often as he uses his sword, so... I guess in a way, he did beat Yhwach? lol
The real question is whether Ichigo could have beaten Yhwach without Aizen.
Probably after 2 or 3 more beat downs. His 2nd fight showed him tanking hits that tore through him before hand and partially resisting almighty. I feel like given enough time he'd evolve enough to be either immune or completely above it.
I think the Hogyoku would definitely resurrect Aizen, potentially giving him another crazy transformation. While it may be "dormant" or something following Deicide & his time in Muken, Aizen is still stronger than he was during Deicide. If the fight went down in that way I absolutely think it would become active and start doing the shenanigans we're used to, otherwise when it "rejected" him after Mugetsu it would have popped out of his chest or something right?
Here's a basic analogy I thought up in like 2 minutes: From the Hogyoku's perspective, let's say base Aizen was a Dodge Challenger SRT-8/Scat Pack/whatever. It transformed him into a Hellcat and later a Demon, but after his defeat he reverted to a Hellcat Redeye. But it could theoretically turn him into a Demon 170 in this situation. For context, a Hellcat is rated 707hp, Redeye is 797hp, Demon is 808 (I think, and also specialized for drag racing), and the Demon 170 is something like 1025hp? and is strictly a factory drag car.
Aizen's "Come at me Bro" pose still cracks me up.
I'm hardpressed to think what he could've done exactly since the Stihl Silver arrow was the only thing that seem to have any real effect on Yhwach but the thing is Aizen's black outfit is a bunch of seals right? So those held him back from destroying the Chair and in the fight itself? and also his bankai would be factor imo
RIP Chair Sama
I know this comment is a little late but I think making a video on BBS Transcended Aizen vs SK absorbed Yhwach would be a pretty fun topic despite the limited information we have on Aizen's form.
There's another factor to bring in and thats the hogyuku itself. Like you said, Aizen's immortality stems from the hogyuku, and that was formed from the fragments of the soul king (former), and since Yhwach was the new soul king, he could try to assimilate the hogyuku into himself, or the hogyuku itself might recognize Yhwach as it's new master through his sheer power alone
Not a chance in HELL. Aizen couldn’t even IMAGINE being able to win that battle even if he had Gremmy’s ability.
Factual
Aizen slams Ywatch, kid, stop being delusional, that's an obvious answer 😂
I think its impossible for aizens illusion to maintain while hes slashing someone, since gin mentioned his weakness is touching his blade
i assume if his blade touches YOU the same thing occurs, the illusion breaks for a moment
Bleach is just so different and so perfectly plotted no other anime / movie / series hits like this
The answer depends on if the Hogyoku can still push Aizen beyond his current power level and how insane his bankai is.
Well urahara did state that his power surpassed what he displayed against ichigo in their last battle so it stands his power still grows greatly
@@earlvaughan-williams3835 most likey because he was growing in power while sitting on a chair i wish i could do that