Bill Hader on The Texas Chain Saw Massacre
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- Bill Hader reacts to Tobe Hooper's 1974 masterpiece The Texas Chain Saw Massacre.
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Props to Bill on being the first guy to talk about that creepy generator. He doesn't miss a single detail.
The first time I saw the movie (obviously I knew the plot) but when I heard that generator I said "nope" it's somehow so creepy even though it's relatively normal. It's like the last warning before the arrival of a more sinister gas powered tool
I honestly didn’t think about it that way until he mentioned it. But it’s so spot on. Industrial noises can be creepy as shit. I’ve lived in Texas all my life as well and this film just will always hold a special place in my heart.
How about the graveyard of cars !!? With the netting over them , Amazing
Bill is really a scared guy. he still wears a mask and lectures people that don't! I don't mean to say that to smear him. he's an honest paranoid. We do have room for paranoid artists. Horror artists should be paranoid and .. cowardly even. Sam Rami said a secret about horror filmmakers is they are cowards. That's what really gives them the sensitivity. I think Hader should go pure horror. Just forget about comedy and embrace his fear.
@@Njbear7453not making this up, but my grandparents on my dad’s side had a literal junkyard of cars in front of their house in Odessa, TX. Sans netting and massacre, of course. However, everytime I went over there, it reminded me of this movie.
The thing that’s great about the ending of that movie is the way you feel while your watching the credits. It’s like you just watched a snuff film. The lack of music just gives it this heavy oppressive feeling. I watched it in a horror movie class i took in college and we all just sat there silently.
“Horror movie class”. Sir are you at film school?
Cringe!
@@whatinthefudge5346 did that make you feel better about yourself? Lmao
@PiperAtTheGatesOfYourMom yup and so does you're w#ore mom
@@PiperAtTheGatesOfYourMomyou know it did
One thing that creeps me out is that leatherface isnt simply sadistic, hes killing out of fear
The scene when he looks around the window and grabs the drapes to peer out and try and look if more people are around
The ambiguity behind what the hell is going on creeps me out
I've seen this at a cinema last year and the one thing that really surprised me is the creativity in the shots, you would expect something like this to be super raw, which it is, but at the same time there are so many shots and takes that look like they were made by someone with a lot of experience despite being Hooper's first film
I noticed some consistency with the camerawork when they introduced anything creepy for example the opening shot, the meathook shot, the table shot and the bone room sequence all have the same setup. It starts with an unfocused shot that zooms out and pans up or down depending on what information is needed to be conveyed. It's absolutely brilliant
Cinematographer Daniel Pearl also deserves some credit for the way this film looks.
There are truly beautiful shots in the movie, and they serve to contrast the ugliness so well.
Great mix of low level panning shots and handheld camera
What!? Part 2 is great! The scene where Chop Top is asking questions while scratching the skin that meets the metal plate on his skull with a clothes hanger that he heats with a lighter is so disturbing. It's great!
Amen
Yeah, Hader is wrong to dismiss part 2. The original is 70s exploitation done right. The sequel is 80s slasher done right. Too bad he also couldn’t have made a 90s sequel as well that was the summation of horror from that decade.
Nah , one thing the 1974 Texas chainsaw massacre didn’t need was a sequel, it’s a one off, the Leatherface in the sequel is crap 😂, there is Only ONE Leatherface it’s Gunnar Hansen……
Bill should totally make a horror movie
“We wrote a movie that I’d like to make at some point, which is kind of like what everybody usually does. They try to make a little, small thing. And then I have two other ideas. One is kind of hard to describe, and then the other one is ‘Barry’-like in tone, but instead of a crime thing, it’s like a horror thing.”
-quote from Bill Hader on his next projects after Barry.
@@Night5225god i hope so
Leatherface doing that dance with the chainsaw in the end was art.
I still get chills every time I see Leatherface slam the door. Absolutely terrifying and the coolest villain introduction from any horror movie I've ever seen.
Hader just nailed it, atmosphere is the key, you feel the place like real.
Bill clearly studied film. He knows exactly what to look for
@@ZXSPEXNo fool. He was just sighting out that Bill had studied and was knowledgeable of the film.
He's literally an actor. Jfc
Lmao I've never studied film but could dissect the direction, art direction, acting, writing, etc. 😂
Studying film? Film is art, you feel it and see it, you don’t get taught how to see and enjoy it..
@@VictorLugosiSo Gregg Toland, Wally Pfister, Roger Deakins, etc. never "studied film?" They just picked up a camera and started shooting? They most certainly studied books and techniques of their predecessors. Directors and cinematographers study/practice with lenses, filters, lighting schemes, depth of field, f-stops, blocking, tilts, pans, angles, forced perspective, shot composition, exposure to make the audience feel and see exactly what they are going after. You may not enjoy the expereince or exqctly feel the emotion a director/cinematographer wanted you to, but there is purposeful intent to lead you there, and the way they achieve that is through studying cinema. Would a cinematographer approach lighting a comedy the same way they would light a horror flick? Of course not. So how did they learn to achieve the nuances of comedy vs. horror - through studying the art of cinematography. Can you tell us how different focal length lenses affects depth of field without googling? Of course you can't - because you didn't study about it.
"I like to think the sequel never existed" applies to so many sequels.
TCM 2 is actually kind of awesome though, even if Hooper went for a totally different tone...
Wrong! He blew up his lovely breakdown and admiration of the original with his totally pedestrian view of part 2.
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I simply f'n adore pt. 2, man...
...I remember watching this on KCAL-9 in Los Angeles in the early 90's...when it had its historic "world broadcast television premiere" during Halloween...because before that, aside from showings late night on one of the premium channels of the day (Cinemax or The Movie Channel), it had NEVER been shown on regular commercial television...and I remember hearing how legendary the film was for its gore, so I thought "how are they getting away with this"...
...then, I watched it and thought "oh, they must have edited the shit out of the gross parts"...
...it wasn't until much later when I bought the movie on DVD that I realized just how "un-gory" it really was and that it's reputation mostly stemmed off of its editing, sounds, and atmosphere...and that gross "grimey" feeling you get from watching it...that feeling that you're watching something you shouldn't, that you're being let in on a horrible secret that's happening nearby without your knowledge or consent...that evil things happen even in the most tranquil spaces...
If you live in Texas and have ever gone on a 1 hour road trip outside of town, you probably appreciated the cinema in this movie. For me that is what made it great for me.
i agree with everything Bill said, but ill add that i also love part 2. "God Dammit Leatherface! Look wut you did to my Sonny Bono Wig!!'
As a fellow Okie(Tulsa same as Hader) I can attest to that Texas landscape connection. You see the humidity in the air. It adds an almost documentary feel to some of the film. Yes, the generator and all the cars under the canopies. Something bad happens here. And when Leatherface first hits the guy with the sledgehammer and drags him into that room and he slams that metal door. My god, THE SCARIEST moment ever for me in a film.
To this day nothing terrifies me like the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
I feel like this is something missing from modern film. Modern movies feel too clean and sterile. There’s less tangibility in the environment. I get the same sense from watching Alien after working in manufacturing settings (one of which was also a mining company). Nothing is pristine. Everything feels used and designed for efficiency rather than appearance. The only colors you see are usually safety yellow or red in all the locations you’d expect. You got the same humid feeling from Predator. Friday the 13th looked like a real summer camp
In the 80s I lived a couple of miles from where they filmed it in Round Rock, TX. My mom took us on that old road to see the house.
"The Texas Chain Saw Massacre" is one of my favourite movies of all time and definitely my favourite horror flick of all time, and I consider it an absolute masterpiece. Hader's assessment of it is on point, in my opinion. One might just add that part of the movie's unnerving appeal stems from its naturalistic, documentary-like style. It doesn't feel like fiction, it feels very, very real, making watching it an extremely horrifying experience for the audience. Although I understand to a certain extent that some people nowadays are disappointed when they're watching it. Given the title, some people expect a gorefest, and given the nature of many horror films of the last x years, people are conditioned to experience cheap thrills. The movie is devoid of both.
Also, it proves that if you have a strong vision, artistic approach and the talent and professionality, you don't need a lot of money to create something truly remarkable. The film cost between $80,000 and $140,000 in 1974, which in today's money is something between $500,000 and $870,000. I fail to come up with an example that would compare to this, especially when taking into account that it made about $30,000,000 (or $192,000,000 in today's money) at the box office.
Light. Light is so important in that movie. When she escapes through the front door for half a second with LF right behind her - that stark Texas light that has been so oppressive, suddenly means freedom. But LF grabs her, brings her back into the dark of the house, and then that extra gloom of the basement. Aside from the horror that is portrayed excellently by the actors, the light difference between the three environments adds this visceral subconscious response in the viewer. Lives rent free in my head and will live there until the day my van stops at a lonely, dilapidated Texas house….
Hader touched on the things that make it so good. It's not about gore but about dread and sudden unexpected brutality. The great sense of place, way out in the country of Central Texas long before Austin was the wannabe cosmopolitan city it is today. The weird, industrial grating music. But there's also wit in the film: the whacked out hitchhiker in the first scene, the bizarre family living in that house unseen. And the final shot of Leatherface doing his whirling dance of death before the sunset is both gruesomely medieval and beautiful, one of the great shots in American film history in my opinion.
Especially for the time, this movie instilled a deep feeling of unease and played on the consequences of breaking down out in the middle of nowhere, which was more of a fear back then.
Hitchhiker kind of lays it out for you in the van scene: The Sawyers were a family that worked in the cattle industry, automation caused them to lose their job, they fell into ruin, now the remaining family members live off the grid, sell homemade "jerky", do bone arts and crafts, etc.
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I saw this movie with my uncle and grandma. I was so disturbed. I didn't know this type of film existed. My grandma said when she and her brothers went to see this, she was scared. The most disturbing part of the movie was when she was pushing her brother to look for their friends, Leatherface shows up. Whats scary about that is how well the sound of the chainsaw isnt heard til right after he kills the brother. That got me
One of my all time favorite comedic talents discussing my all time favorite horror, Damn these just get better and better and it’s great for my writing
TCM2 - In the mid-80s there was a big push to mix comedy and horror. Mostly started with Gremlins. Lasted a few years when TCM2 appeared, Friday13th #6, Evil Dead 2. Fun times. Still liking TCM2 and think it aged well. it was not trying to compete or meet expectations of the first - but more of a companion piece. Just another take on the lore of the first, with satire. While not ruining the mystique of the first. Each are their own thing. Just don't ask me about anything that followed 2. Just no.
might as well go back to Dante's Piranha... and also the influence of the Zucker Bros, Mel Brooks, and National Lampoon. Speaking of Lampoon, John Hughes came out of that world and we we came really close to a Hughes version of Jaws 3, a spoof called "Jaws 3 People Zero"
Yeah 2 is a ton of fun. Not a film to be taken seriously at all, but a lot of wild, goofy ideas you'll never see anywhere else.
I didn't like TCM2 when it first came out in '86, but I absolutely love it now. Hooper was ahead of his time, just like Carpenter with The Thing. I even prefer TCM2 to the original. How da ya like them apples?
It's funny that you wrote a novel about giving Texas 2 a chance only to say f everything after in the last sentence 😣
I’d read Tobe Hooper always thought the original TCM was pretty funny, but that it was a surprise to him audiences never seemed to respond to those humorous elements. That it’s partially why he ramped up the comedy mode overtly in 2.
Top 5 scariest/disturbing movies for me in no specific order when I was a kid
Texas chainsaw massacre
The exorcist
Halloween
Candyman
Fire in the sky
What's even more scary is that what is stopping someone from using a every day available tool like a chainsaw to commit a heinous crime. Someone can literally just take down your home door with a chainsaw and go to town.
Director Toby Hooper didn't think he needed to pay the narrator and gave him a marijuana joint instead. The narrator was so offended that he refused to watch the finished movie for years.
Seeing Bill Hader get so in-depth makes me appreciate Barry more.
The way Hooper catches the perspective of Sally is incredible. The scenes at the dinner table are the most captivating. Among others, Massacre makes me think of Salo. The characters in Salo are fiendish murderous perverts, but you can put that aside, and actually pay attention to what their faces look like; the aesthetic quality is that engaging. They were cast to look exactly as you saw them on screen. You just know that in Massacre, Hooper showed the physical appearance of those characters exactly as they should’ve been, removed from their brutal actions. Nothing on screen is not meant to be there. It is beautiful to be truthful.
Love me some Bill Hader but hard disagree on the sequel. That movie is so damn fun
Was just about to comment the same thing and then I read this hahaha.
“Dog will hunt!”
Love the sequel as well but I get where he’s coming from cause it does not live up to what we’ve been waiting for, for 50 years in terms of a sequel that fits with the original.
@@CarsonX1Eaten Alive is basically the TCM sequel. It can't sustain its insanity the way Chainsaw does, but it has moments.
@@Flike245 I’ll have to check it out, I’ve heard conflicting reviews but you saying that it can’t “contain its own insanity” makes me very interested
Part 2 is a guilty pleasure. Geeked our Dennis hopper
This video was phenomenal. Bill Hader is such a great speaker
Thank you very much
Leatherface slamming the door haunted my dreams for years. I met Gunnar Hansen many years later, and he was an absolute sweetheart, but the slamming door still gets me.
The sequel wasnt bad
Part 2 is fucking awesome. Bill Hader needs to revist it, i think.
Dude his analysis of the film is SPOT ON!!!! Literally explains all the shit that makes it so fucking creepy. Such a creepy fucking film.
Me and my buddy in college saw this for the first time at a friend’s apartment on an old vhs tape after we dropped 3 hits of acid from a Grateful Dead show. It was amazing 😻
Kirks death is easily a top 10 horror movie moments
One my favorite guys in the game gushing over my favorite film 🤘🏼
...on a deeper symbolic translation...I always interpreted the generator to mean they're not on the electrical grid of the area...whereas everyone else are connected and neighbors...the singular generator indicates..."we are not like you, we are NOT your neighbor"...the disconnection from the grid, the disconnection from society...
YES! That was my thought as well. The place is so remote, they don't even get electricity there.
I watched the whole 'Barry' series (... still waiting for the last season...) and everybody must know the episodes directed by Bill Hader are the best !
The one with the karateka girl and the other with the motorcycle ... fun, subtle and entertaining ...
Now I'm waiting for his movies as a director ...
Im a huge fan of TCM 2, but yes. That original makes you feel like you're watching a snuff film found in a dirty old basement. And it invokes that dreadful feeling with no cheap gags and very little gore. It's just...unnerving.
The video game is great at recreating the original feel.
Texas Chainsaw is in the permanent collection at MOMA in NY.
What do you mean?
@@nypd1776 Museum of Modern Art. It's considered a piece of great art.
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i want to know what happened to the semi truck driver..
Legend has it he’s still running on Texas backroads till this day
Saw it when I was 15 and felt like I needed a shower. Definitely a movie you can smell. Didn't watch it again until they put out the 4k restoration in 2014; it stands as a work of RARE substance.
Movie, unlike the sequels really hold up because of how snuff like the film making is. It feels like ur watching something you're not supposed to.
I think on top of everything else is the 70s quality film it’s not glossy nothing pretty about it , the light is kind of nauseating . It feels like you’re watching a snuff film and that’s what makes it so disturbing .
It’s so true. The thought of Leatherface creeping around at night ready to pounce is ticking Horrifying
Also, the hitchhiker creeping around digging up bodies, collecting body parts, defacating on graves, creating sculptures out of corpses. So fucking creepy. A GENIUS HORROR FILM!!!
The sunrise at the end of the movie is so gorgeous and here is a guy with a chainsaw chasing this poor girl around. Then he does the chainsaw dance!!!
Well said Hader
I’ve never clicked faster
Well done Bill
I don't think the actors that played the victims are given enough credit for how convincing they are, especially the women.
The generator sounds like a chainsaw
Man this movie really got to me as a kid😂 It would come on the cable channel prism in the philly area late at night. It took me a few attempts to make it all the way through, it was like an outer body experience. I realized that this is what all great art tries to do pretty mind blowing really
house of 100o corpses vs him in the office is apples to oranges
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 is still dope
Say what you will about the second one, but I'm not about to question the creator himself.
The movie was prescient, ahead of its time. Slashers for the most part were born out of Neoliberal deregulation, the abandonment of social services and the safety net. This one took more influence from the industrial horrors and moral disillusionment of the Vietnam War and somehow predicted the rise of Reagan and Thatcher.
Yeah, Bill, I'd like to think the sequel never existed either. It played like a comedy with gore.
I love the original, and to me the sequels don't exist. I am not a fan at all of them getting names and the family being explored. To me it works much better if it's just a mystery, an insane family that you know nothing about.
Humidity is a whore. 😑1974 TCM is more f'd than any horror movie I have ever watched.
I remember seeing it as a kid, and scared tf out of me when I found out about Ed Gein.
"THis waS ReAl?!" 😂 Oh and that sound, oh god that sound! 😳
They said they used real carcasses. It definitely must have smelled terrible.
Bill Hader would be a perfect pick to play the father.
After seeing Hot Rod, I just can't take his voice seriously.
I love Bill but have to strongly disagree about the sequel. It’s one of the the best , gonzo horror movies of the 80’s hands down ( or off ) .
As a teenager, I thought this film was super scary and raw. As a 40 something, I rewatched and found it to be more of a dark comedy/satire. It’s funny how time changes your perspective.
When this came out I was too young to see it, but we heard about it and they used to run TV ads for it, and we just thought, oh my God this has to be the goriest movie ever made (like Bill says). When it finally came to the drive-in we snuck in (I don't think they checked IDs) and finally saw it and we were totally unprepared for it.
I agree with Bill completely. This is the pinnical masterpiece of horror. No film I've seen has made me so uneasy, queezy, gross, and disturbed. It's fantastic. The sequels are awful dog shit.
I also thought the 2nd one was dumb ......
Bill is an intelligent and well cultivated dude. Must feel frustrated hanging with the current dregs of snl
Like the content hate the little jingle
Bill! Please direct a horror film! You showed us in Barry that you can definitely bring the tension up
I went in expecting it to be scary and it wasn't.
This is probably my favorite horror film ever. So subtle but still ridiculously unnerving.
MPAA doesn’t let u put gore
Nope, second one is a masterpiece.
apparently gunnar hannsen (leatherface) the scene where he's swinging the chainsaw he throws it because he's so done with the movie lmfao
cmon bill, texas chainsaw 2 is funny
Toby was an amazing director and had that kind of talent that’s very rare. His stuff was totally character driven.👽
TCM is peak cinema
TCSM2 is up there as one of the most unsung great sequels in horror history
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Texas Chainsaw is a PHENOMENAL horror film! And to think I finally saw it last year or so? 😂
This movie and Halloween - neither should have ever had a sequel.
Halloween II was good. Arguably it should have ended there.
Texas chainsaw is like a fucking snuff film. Terrifying.
Lose the OH NO LETS GO. It's so annoying
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The brother character in the wheelchair ruins the movie for me. I'm not sure if he's in there as comedic relief, but he's not funny at all. And if his character is only supposed to be annoying, then that's not a character. He's an anchor on the movie for me.
People say this all the time and I simply don't understand. I relate to him because nobody takes him seriously, they tend to forget him and he obviously doesn't want to be there. He is definitely annoying, don't get me wrong, but I think he has a reason to be it's like the annoying kid in class who argues with the teacher, that's probably the only way he knows how to get attention
Personally I feel out of all the group he's the only one with a personality. It may also be that the idea of having to sit in a wheelchair with a maniac roaming around, or even having to push your own brother in a wheelchair under those circumstances, is both frightening and sad in a way bc you can run but your brother can't. It's probably another one of Tobe's original ways of getting under our skin.
What an awful take you have. Do you live in a bubble? Annoying people exist and the character made you feel something. It's hilariously ironic how you say he's an anchor when that's one of his character's function, both physically & emotionally in the movie's plot, and he knows it and is vulnerable to it and even explains it when he has his fit while alone. The guy is desperate because he is so dependent on the rest of the group and is stuck in the middle of nowhere. It's annoying when people lack the empathy to recognize that. You may not like him but he's definitely a character who got under your skin which adds to the dread of the movie. He works both as a distraction and a Darwin dilemma morality test. As I get older I've realized a lot of characters I thought were not believable actually do exist in real life. Maybe you just haven't met them or lack the maturity to accept that they exist even if you haven't met them.
He was annoying af. I didn’t care that he got killed at all.
Wow, a lot of people super defensive that I'd rather have a character that I care about. The brother character SUCKS. And, the actor playing him SUCKS. It'd be one thing, maybe, if the guy was a good performer. Maybe, a better actor could have mined something unexpected from such a underwritten character. That didn't happen, obviously. Instead, we get a character who I guess is supposed to be comedic relief? A truly terrible mistake, and a near-fatal one for a movie that is otherwise pretty scary. Take out the brother character from the script, and the movie is more or less the same.
the 2003 version is the best
I saw the movie in the early 2000s - just before the remake, so 2003 sometime - with a group of friends and maybe because things looked dated or maybe because we had just watched the still scary af Pet Sematary, but it just didn't scare us. We were more impressed at the stamina of this fat dude who could run through the woods endlessly carrying a chainsaw.
The last sentence proves a lack of seriousness that would cause TCM to go over one’s head.
Wasn't gory? Well yeah no real blood scenes but half dead dude, dead skin masks, bones everywhere, hooked up, let's just say not blood gore, or gore gore, I don't know just shut up Hader lmao.
Agreed. There wasn’t a lot of blood but TCM was straight up Horror, not a Thriller.
@@77Creation totally lol
The Devil's Rejects is basically a serious remake of TCM2, but much better.
I don’t even remember The Devil’s Rejects, beyond it seeming like it was trying too hard.
I like to think the sequel never happened either.. lol
The purest horror film ever made