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Day 1 of asking whatifalthist to make a video on Indian civilization
You are one of my favorite history CZcamsrs!
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Day 1 asking you to make a video on what if russia wins ww3
hi, small correction in 4:08
In 100 bc the Hasmonean dynasty has been ruling Judea
America developing a space colony which eventually secedes would be the most American thing ever
this is very likely to happen.
That's going to happen anyway.
I wrote a sci fi where Luna (the moon) & Mars colony are both seceded from Earth but all are in a Solar Triune
@@rfields4137 I’d love to read something like that! Do you have a place I could read your work?
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I wish you were not correct, yet here we are...
Get addicted to weed instead it is more healthy
He’s wrong a lot, but he’s very entertaining can’t lie.
I was thinking the same thing. I have a Machine Learning project that I should be working on, but this title/subject does sound interesting...
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In the far future, I believe Canada will eventually merge with the United States in a way that'll preserve their identity as 'Canadians' in a United North America. The provinces will act like states but with a bit more autonomy and identify with the Canadian territory. It'll be a slow process, but I think the united north is almost inevitable. Our way of life and pride for our countries are just far too similar to permanently remain separate.
Except Canada is ran but a commie.
What kind of autonomy are you talking about? The states already have substantial autonomy. I would think Canada would be more seen as a region of the United States like the South is. Southerners call themselves Southerners and Americans and Canadians will do the same I imagine. We already have economic, trade, and defensive agreements with them so joining the union is the only change I see happening. I think this will happen down the line when the monarchy is abolished and Quebec wants out.
Technocracy@@MultiSpeedMetal
Maybe. I can see some parts of Canada joining the us in a a decade or 2.
@@MultiSpeedMetal i am a french quebecer and no we will not split.. that was an old dream that has now faded away .. i would gladly vote to join america and fight for the values we hold
25:36 Nah you wildin on this one 💀
Yo mamma be wildin on my D
One thing I think you missed in your considerations of South Africa is the country of Botswana. Despite being landlocked and the poorest country when released from the British empire, they boast one of the fastest growing economies in the world. They did this by having a stable, liberal democracy and getting Dubiers to invest half their profits on the country and its people.
Bostwana has a high unemployment rate lately. Potentially if this continues it could be harboured as a force for expansionism by the government since the country is the most unified of Sub-Saharan Africa.
Its population is too small it will never be dominant. Their economic success means nothing considering the huge difference in population. And the economic success only works because some shitty ideology massively held by their neighbor (like black south africans) hasn't taken control of it yet, but it will come.
“Dubiers” (?) Do you mean De Beers?
@@gregbors8364 yes, thank you.
@@johnseppethe2nd2 only went up by 2 percent which is quite a bit but it has a history of going down
It was great working with you again, Whatif! As always, we truly appreciate the effort and detail you put into your videos. Predicting the future is ultimately a lesson of the past. For our team, we’ve seen what happens when tribalism and echo-chambers have taken hold in the past. The lesson is to not let it happen again!
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The anglosphere already exists. USA, Canada, australia, new Zealand and uk are already pretty close allies. If they united they would control the majority of the worlds land mass, fresh water, resources, etc and a new frontier into space would keep things stable for a long time
Pretty close?
We're extremely close.
Aside from NATO, Five Eyes and AUKUS are by far the most important alliances America has. AUKUS is literally the beginning of a United Anglosphere military.
Shit, the US even sold Trident II SLBMs to the UK. The US willingly giving nukes to another country is very significant.
The browning of these countries will defeat that. There's no magic dirt.
Tbh, as a Kiwi from New Zealand, I like being part of this group. It's like having all the benefits with zero expectations. I feel like we just get grandfathered into everything simply because we're English Speaking, ex-colony, and similar law systems and culture. If i were to rule over an empire in ancient times I'd honestly just end up with the British by modern times.
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Demographics has nothing to do with external policies. In fact, even those who recently arrived look down on the compatriots in their old homelands. Within a generation, their children will be part of the fold. This is the strength of the West that other more closed society can never be able to match.
Unfortunately, the French state with all their influence around the world will actively work against the Anglo alliance out of fear.
I see them either partially collapsing and dragging their African satellites into chaos, or unifying the eurozone and convincing Germany that they need to join together to harm English and Western interests to maintain economic relevance and a stable front against Russia.
Us Cuban Americans have been trying to retake our island from Castro’s evil communist goons squad for decades going all the way back to the Bay of Pigs. It gives me a chuckle to hear you say we’ll succeed…eventually. 😂 Thanks for the pep talk.
Maybe you guys could attempt a landing similar to the one Castro did with the Granma?
What I love about whatifalthist is that, while he’s a smart, well-read, practiced guy, a lot of the content is fun and entertaining. He knows nobody can tell the future, but this Is an interesting excersize and I enjoy it
The quality of any prediction relies upon the accuracy of historical measurements, understanding and quantifying dynamic factors, how conditionalized the prediction is and statistical computing.. You can calculate a range of probable outcomes with 90% accuracy, but the range can be very wide or relatively tight, depending on the factors I mentioned. So yeah, you can definitely tell the future. I don't like when people say you can't.
@@Gardor it goes back to the old idea if you don't know history you're going to repeat it. For that saying to work, it takes at least a level of future prediction based on past events. I too don't like when people say it can't be done.
Every once in a while he "over pronounces" a word (like 'competitivity', I think it was, around 30 minutes in) and I find them to be 'comedic' in nature, my two 'greatest' academic interests meeting (geopolitics/history and English/vernacular)
Its blah blah blah...nd views. Trust me
That is one thing I say about whatifalthist, he is much less like other historians with “this would happen” and “this is how this will go” and more “we actually could never predict it accurately, but this is a likely possibility”.
I'm obsessed with eastern european history. They have a way of getting through very difficult points in history while producing amazing artists.
It also interesting how with eastern it show what European civilization could have been. Eastern European people may be not be the most tolerantable people but man are they endurance
@@starmaker75 Right. You just can't kill them they always come back.
@@kangaroocaliphate1577 hard ASF that's why.
I know nothing about Eastern Europe lol I’ve been to Poland though!
im an eastern european we ain't got much but we always figure things out at the end
I feel like Botswana could also become the epicenter of the south African civilization you describe, considering how economically stong it is compared to it's neighbors
Honestly I think you could be right. In a world where the power difference changes. I could see Botswana being a strong point in a new civilization. They are generally different than a lot of the states surrounding it. It will depend on what happens on the continent and in their own borders though, but it is interesting to think about.
I have thought about this as well
@@dudeladude456 as long as their economy countinues to punch above it's weight compared to it's neighbors, the future certainly seems bright. However, it all depends now on how bad things get due to the lack of fertilizers and grain imports due to the russo-ukranian war.
Doubtful. Too small. Lacks access to the sea.
Empty country With less population , no sea access neighbourgs in terminal crisis ...Botswana is alike Costa Rica or Uruguay nice all of they but small
As a European, I've lived in the Dominican Republic for a few years and I've seen the Anglosphere hit me right in the face. Absolutely frightening. I think the whole American continent will be one civilisation some day, where Spanish will be the dominant language but English equally important.
Like Greek was during Rome. Even the Gospels were written in greek. Do you Think Spanish will be greek of today or the Latin?
What do you mean you have seen the Anglosphere hit you right in the face?
Well then, Brazil will remain apart
@@christorres348That’s a damn good comparison.
Latin was the official language, but Greek became a very powerful second language (especially for the patrician elite who often spoke both languages fluently).
@@Kaiserboo1871 a true empire is bi or trilingual. We shall see. I live in Puerto Rico and we are the crossroads between north and south america. It has not been comfortable
Alaska doesn't have launch pads because its so far away from the equator. At the equator you are traveling at a much greater speed thus making it easier to speed up more into space. The turn you see in a rocket launch is when the rocket maneuvers to be parallel to the earths surface and accelerate to 29,000 mph (for the space shuttle). This is all to save fuel, weight and cost.
Alaska has a launch pad. Astra aerospace. Look up Pacific Spaceport Complex - Alaska
@@chriswhite3692 neat! I didnt know that! Thanks!
Also polar and sun synchronise orbit are more efficient the further away from the equator you are, this is why Scotland has been making launch pads because it has a high latitude and a good window for polar and sun synchronise launches; look up Orbex and Skyrora of you're interested.
In general, it depends where you are going. Sorry for the rant haha, space is just an area I work in and I thought I'd share some knowledge
We are also launching rockets in the most northern reaches of Sweden, above the polar circle!
sri lanka actually has the lowest gravity on earth. A spacex rocket would cost 200k dollars less per launch.
Been with you since 15k subs and it gives me faith in humanity seeing how quickly you've grown.
Keep digging and asking questions, you inspire many of us to do the same.
Thanks so much for being here for the long ass ride
holy fuck I never looked to see how many subs he has. He's at 400k? i swear i remember seeing like only 20k
i was there too!
Yeah I remember when the channel was only at around 67k subs.
This channel has hit a new level recently. Very very good stuff.
Bro learned every subject from McDonald's
"Either falling into hentai or extreme totalitarianism" The duality of man.
😂
two sides of the same coin ig 😅
became the very thing they swore to destroy😂
15:29 It's also important to remember that the inability for African societies to organize meant the European and Muslim powers could play them against each other. In addition, as before the Industrial Revolution, the only way to invent and produce goods was with sheer population size, which wasn't possible when every civilization was constantly killing, enslaving and then selling each other.
That’s entirely false. Population size has only become relevant since the industrial revolution. Before industrialism a society could be warlike and take over an entire empire with the fraction of the people. Nowadays, a “warlike” society doesn’t really matter. It’s become all about who has more numbers, whereas in the past a people like the mongols could be genuinely better and take over China, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, etc.
@@victorianreactionary1875 before industrialization, the only way to invent and produce more things is if those people have something to eat and can do other things. Therefore, what determines the overall economic capacity of a pre-industrial country is the amount of food that can be grown, which is a factor of how many people you have. And while yes, a population can take over a larger one, it's going to require more people to grow more food so more people can do things that are not growing food so that it can still technologically and economically advanced.
@@neonbunnies9596 I feel like that's how civ v works, but not necessarily the world
Right but the organization was stunted by being in proximity to Europe and a Islamic organization of Arab tribes the preceded African reformation. So, if Muhammad was not born or was killed, the Arab tribes would not have organized. The European Christians and the Arab Christians might have gotten along or have had conflict, but they could not have stretched from Arabia to Spain and India and South East Asia.
The Africans not having a strong religion was the key problem. The religion that brought every corner of Africa together, intermarried different groups and created a us vs foreigner mindset throughout the continent would have effectively created a super state or at least strong states that would have hegemonic tendencies. But Africa lost it with the failure of Egypt and the attacks of Alexander, Rome, Persia and Islam....thus facing endless onslaught.
Had Africa been separated by Europe and Arabia by a wide ocean and without easy access by land, who knows what it could have achieved. We ignore all of these thing for easy explanations.
Today, America and the UN prevents strong nations from forming, creating immature stunted states that cannot allocate resources efficiently because the lands are so tribal or so broken up into territory disputed. If foreign powers let Africa go through a period of war and reformation, there might emerge one to three states to create large efficient modern states.
"Inability"? The societies were structured entirely differently. It wasn't an inability, it was just not something they did because the system they had worked fine. It's just that it wasn't ready for the slaughtering brought by Islam and Europeans.
Just discovered your channel today. Fun to listen to while I work. Keep up the good work.👍
I'm curious to see how the French speaking world will develop or has developed into what it has as a branch of the West, and how it is distinguished from the Anglosphere.
Most likely France will become a German speaking country.
French speaking world don't compete with anglosphere anymore, ask any french person about American and they will complain about American leadership, then, ask if China would be a better leader and they will tell you good things about America. As you say, French speaking world as well as spanish speaking world will be a branch of western culture.
@@ginagi9088 ?
The Africans are kicking France out and little by little even the language! So the “French speaking” world will get smaller 😢
@@joshJ. Well they kicked it out as an official language, they didn't totally kick french language out, A lot of Africans countries still speaks french more and more
25:40 I honestly believe the Japanese one grew immensely popular to the point of it actually evolving into a form of religion, not speaking about people worshipping anime waifus, but a religion and philosophical belief which revolves around Creativity itself.
Yeah I can see a religion based that combines creativity, Buddhism, and cyber stuff around places like Japan, USA, or Europea
@@starmaker75 Sounds markedly more fun than a lot of the alternatives
@@starmaker75 So are you saying there will one day be a future version of Buddhism that also has anime? Count me in!!!!
My personal view is that as traditional Judeo-Christianity declines from favor in the West and that it no longer fills the void or need that it use to meet long ago I can see a religion based around anime and other concepts such as social justice, ecology, video games, and pop culture/consumerism rise up to eventually evolve to become religions. I for one accept the rise of the anime religion that will one day rise to over shadow the Christian faith and how we will be praying to Miku instead to Jesus.
@@starmaker75 it has been invented already. This is New Ageism
Eastern Europe is tough but unlike western Europe the East seems to be waking up to the self destructive policy's the has been destroying the west for the last 6 or 7 decades, keep up the great work, I am enjoying your videos even when I disagree with some of your analysis
I dont think the West is destroying itself
It is all relative .
Look at what happened to the BRICS over the last ten years.
You sound like a Russian
Eastern Europe is diverse by itself. I personally am very bullish on The Baltics and Poland. Even though their population is currently declining and they have lots of obstacles from the recent soviet occupation they are still rapidly gaining on the rest of europe. Their living standards are already in many ways better than portugal, spain and greece. They are scaling fast and interestingly they have no Muslim or African immigrants which creates decent amount of problems. The climate is perfect for the upcoming climate changes. If Russia doesn't have the strength to take these territories over next 50 years I could see many western european businesses and talent relocate there. Economic freedom index already is much greater than in rest of Europe (apart from Scandinavia, Switzerland and Ireland).
Personally I don't think the rest of Eastern europe like Balkans and Ukraine will do that well in this century.
This "what if" future history analysis is very well done. It is very interesting. 👍
You forgot Ishigami village becoming the kingdom of science in the 5700s.
I don't know about the others but I can say that it is spot on with regards to India and the Hindus. The Hindus see science as a confirmation of most of their beliefs and therefore love science. In fact things like people experiencing time differently and multiple universes are covered in Hindu scriptures.For Hindus, yoga is above enhancing the mind and body therefore Hindus will view genetic engineering is another tool of achieving this. Hindus do not see their scriptures as inerrant and in fact expect that the meaning of scriptures will change and eventually be lost so they are open to new knowledge. This knowledge does not need to come from God but enlightened individuals since each being is seen as inherently divine. However for Hindus, beliefs must be questioned, scrutinized, challenged and not imposed. Like stated in the video, Hinduism is about the individual even though Hindu society is collective and this will be appealing for both the individualist or the collectivist. Also, with education, the caste system will breakdown. Ironically, the caste system in India was entrenched by progressives, socialists, secularists and atheists to prevent a unified Hindu identity from rising in India. The current leader of India is from the lower caste and he is uniting Hindus irrespective of castes. Finally, Hinduism's core message has never changed regardless of how many scriptures or enlightened individuals come and go. The question for me is: will I see an individual rising in my lifetime to create a new Indian civilization???
yeah i also believe modi the indian PM is the new guru/ prophet who is reviving hindu philosophy with modernism. india will be hotspot of new civilizational state for sure!
Great Content. I watched one of your vids and kinda got hooked on it. Hello from Texas, Andy
Spot on. I work in the space industry. We love gadgets, freedom, and the frontier.
Despite many disagreements with this guy, as long as you are interested in History and geopolitical, we have to admire his well knowledge of things.
where do you disagree with him?
@@svenmuller5332 the collapse of CCP also bring collapse of China. And he said Manchu are more modern than Ming. Manchu rulers hold their grip on Han major they against any outsider interaction with outside so they can hold grip Han. Without Manchu China won’t be so isolated
He failed to acknowledge the fact that African kingdoms like the Dahomey were the ones who conquered, massacred, and enslaved people to sell to Europe. It was enslave or be enslaved, and this was a few decades before the Europeans actually explicitly colonized that area or whatever tf they did. I learned this from the backlash of Woman King 😂😂😂
@@JellyAntz I don’t know if this part well true or not he said British govern their colonies the best compared to other European countries
@@JOE-ft3gq It's true, also a lot of what whatifalthist claims is mostly out of his ass based on right-wing feelings (ironic considering he calls out woke social justice for the same thing) and someone who reacted to him on youtube perfectly described his whole thing about cycles of civilization as like astrology 😂. A lot of his ridiculous claims are so easily disproven with actual evidence or taking a look at reality, but it's sometimes hard to tell when the things he claims resonate with your feelings, and that's the whole problem with his blatant bias.
Eye of Shiva is an excellent read that I recommend to everyone! It's quite astonishing how smart the Ancient Indian scientists and philosophers were. It's a shame this isn't common knowledge.
It really is. Studying Hinduism and Indian history over the last 15 years never ceases to amaze me. The philosophical writings alone have been some of the best to read.
@@MelkorTolkien can you tell me what are those things? Since our brainwashing education system doesn't tell us anything about our history and culture and only glorifies foreign invaders
Millions of books were burned by Invaders . Knowledge was lost that could have helped this World. India had the world's first university, hundreds of years before it was relevant in west
Which country you are from?
@@MelkorTolkien Wow! Respect from India to you and your country.
Humility: predicting things is hard, especially about the future.
Good man.
The sentence "The unification of the solar system" sends chills down my spine.
Ever think about doing a series about what certain countries/the world would look like if certain wars never happened? I'd love to see you do a video about what the world would look like if WWII never happened or if WWI never happened.
One would think that the traditional post-medieval powers in Western Europe would still be dominant, or at least highly more relevant, on the world stage in that scenario than how they are today… of course, with its available natural resources, the eventual ascent of the United States would essentially be a given
already has actually
Then we have no tootsie rolls god damnit
He's done helps of those, that's literally alternative history and that's why his channel was about originally. Go check his older videos
Those kinda of videos were his early ones. That's literally why he has that name. The channel used to literally be alternative history. The first one I saw was what if the confederates had won the Civil War. That was pretty cool. It's been a few years. He's grown a lot.
He's surprisingly young too.
“This is an area where people have nothing to believe in, either falling in to hentai or extreme totalitarianism nationalism.”
I never thought I would ever hear that sentence in my life but here we are.
Time stamp?
@@Nattyplatinum 25:45
27:27 "All I know is that I know nothing"
As a society, their are more and more subtle changes occuring that make me think we are on the verge of a big societal change....for the better
Hey, I think it would be a good idea if you made a video that talked about what effects contact with extraterrestrial civilizations might have on humanity.
I agree- my precaution is that ironically due to Siencefiction we will react better than most would think but due to historic presidents worse than the other half thinks.
I would like to see this
Sounds like a good time to team-up with Isaac Arthur and do a colab!
“Congratulations men! Racism is no more! Now that we are aware of inhuman intelligence, we have one single enemy!”
@@rogermon3s141 The biggest factor is how it is discovered, with the most likely being satellite imagery/data showing signs of liquid water, life, and then industrial presence.
While the former shouldn't be that rare, the second is an unknown (Earth's 3.5 billions year of life only had a tenth of it with green on it's surface, although atmospheric oxygen may be detected beforehand) and the latest is likely to exclude everything prior to our own last 200 years.
There's going to be a lot of euphoria and denial for every step, but then what? We've got a pixelated picture and an atmospheric camembert, even for those who accept the proof that we aren't alone anymore, well, we still technically are, as it's lightyears away, meanings centuries to millenia under our best hopes with near-future technology.
11:18 "Russia is washed out... because Russia is washed out"
This is the kind of tautology I live for!
In comes climate change that turns siberia into lush forests in 2100
You have a unique perspective, that is well versed, and well researched. Appreciate your contribution to future speculation. Even though your currently limited in the extent of your knowledge on all things, we all are, you still have a far further grasp then most.
Mars is the gateway to the asteroid belt - unlimited minerals.
The Expanse 🌌
@@MrMrMuhummad exactly what I had in mind
As a guy from Romania, you're totally right about Eastern Europe. People feel like they have no direction, the majority of young folks like me don't believe in the orthodox church and the governments here are corrupt, selfish and incompetent. Romania lost 5 million people since the revolution, all of them leaving for Western countries. I'll also leave Romania this winter and go to work in Germany and hope I won't have to come back, this place is doomed.
I´m syrian who lives in the usa. The sad thing about syria is that syria is getting radicilized instead of secularized. Back in the 80s most woman in cities didn´t wear the hijab(islamic headcovering) but now the majority does. It´s as almost syria is getting more religious and romania less. We´ve basically become america´s and russia´s playground since 2011. In a sence i understand how you feel, that there is no hope left in your native country. And in syria´s case this sadly might be true but i feel like romania might make it. Most problems are created by corrupt politicians. If romanian politicians cared about the youth than we wouldn´t see this huge migration. I love the balkans and eastern europe so it would sadden me to witness the downfall of the region :(
@@johnmalik2631 My uncle too is from Syria, he married my aunt, though he came in Romania in the 90's. It's pretty sad what happened and keeps happening in the Middle East. I watched the documentaries from before the major powers got involved there and islamists took power, used to be a beautiful place... I'm glad you made out that kill zone, my friend. As-Salamualaikum!
Germany is even more doomed
Germany is truly failed society you will see how Romanian values are better when you will live some time in germany
@@johnmalik2631The whole worlds civilizations are about to enter a period of collapse and instability. It’s not just the Middle East.
The signs are quiet present.
Some civilizations will survive the collapse (Like Egypt and Assyria survived the collapse of the Bronze Age while the Eastern Roman Empire survived the fall of the classical civilizations). I think the Anglo-American civilization will survive.
Wow this is the soonest ive ever caught an upload.
same here
Same
Me too
Same, popped up just as i opened yt
Same
I think it's very optimistic to think we will have civilizations in the future.
Quigley was a genius but I had never heard of him till now. Thanks for this brilliant video!
Whatifalthist is on roll videos coming out pretty fast, very interesting, and quality. Opening my mind up and I’m pretty sure you help me understand historical skills for my Apush class. Appreciate and keep up the amazing work, much love ❤️
Alaska and Australia for space launches? Might want to look into the physics of that deeper. The further you are from the equator the harder it is to launch.
Depends on the type of orbit you want, but polar orbits are a lot less common.
@@kokofan50 That may have to do with the aforementioned fact that it is, indeed, a terribly inefficient idea.
Would be surprised if it's anything more than spy satellites.
Just to point out, Alaska and Australia were a bit of an odd pairing from the latitude perspective in any case; high latitude might be a problem in the former, but definitely not for the latter.
Yeah he clearly doesn't understand orbital mechanics very well. Alaska and Australia are shite places to launch from as they severely limit your potential orbital planes. But when has lack of knowledge ever stopped anyone from making authoritative proclamations? That's what gurus and prophets are all about. ;)
@@kokofan50 At the equator you have more angular momentum.
Rounded for easy napkin math you are traveling 1000mph faster at the equator than at the pole.
What people often misunderstand about Africa is how freaking diverse the continent is. There are so many extremes between the people of Africa. It makes perfect sense that an area which is so diverse would have so much problems in terms of building strong nation states. Let's not forget too that the European colonization of Africa led to the formation of totally illegitimate nation states, these nation states hold peoples that have absolutely nothing in common in terms of culture and ethnicity. You just can't expect Africa to develop as fast as Europe and Asian countries have.
its like if Asia colonized Europe and put the Serbs, Croats, Bosnians, Turks, Greeks and Bulgars in one country
That's why i think Africa would become more powerful if some of the countries merged together, having so many different countries on the same continent just slow down their developping process
@@youtuber-tg1pu Despite its fate, it's not as if the Ottoman Empire never existed. That's a bit of an exaggeration (or rather, it is deeply rooted in an history of conquests and cultural influences), but it's also exactly what the largest European nations did: bring people together in one country to achieve "critical mass."
What a wonderful journey! Congrats from Paris
"New growth cannot exist without first the destruction of the old." -the wise Guru Laghima, an airbender
Understood" Answered Hitler.
I feel like you always ignore the potential of southern West Africa. But then im typing this, you actually corrected my complaint so never mind lol. Southern Nigeria and Ghana have the best future prospects in Africa in my opinion. Even moreso than Ethiopia. You also hit the nail on the head in the idea of the US FINALLY splitting from Europe ideologically, with the exception of the UK.
also east africa. rail transport would do a lot there.
@Ivan Ivanoff like little to none. But let them hope.
@Aka aka aka because some success doesn't equal future of prosperity. The prospects of Africa are small. Some places do better than others sure, but in the end they will never be as wealthy or prosperous as the west or east.
Spare me your shit, the faith doesn't say anywhere I can't dismiss the possible future of a region.
@Aka aka aka Jesus wasn't white like Northern Europe would have but he certainly wasn't black. So don't flatter yourself.
@Ivan Ivanoff Africa has nothing but potential if they manage to get really good leaders in the next few decades. problem is that would mean, erasing old ethnic distinctions and advocating for a more pan-african identity. which i think is actually doable in our age.
Here is my big caveat about the Anglo-Civilization. "America 3.0" (worth reading) asserts that the Anglo-sphere is built on the unique nuclear family model which gives it great strength. However, the West (including the U.S.) is in a desperate struggle between political ideologies such as Feminism and the traditional nuclear family. These political ideologies appear to be deadset on completely destroying the strength of Anglo-Civilization--not merely improving it, rather utter destruction of it. If these ideologies continue to succeed with their nihilistic endeavors, it is hard to see how the U.S. can continue to be a unified society.
Honestly it might just take a major war for the US to self correct, which China needs to do soon if they want to have a chance at winning. A bit of generational trauma can redirect a civilizations course or onto a healthier course.
Great job on this video I thoroughly enjoyed it thank you
What you said about Indians and Chinese being overly defensive is so true. I lived in China for a few years and I really had to watch what I said, even around trusted friends. Not that they'd turn me into the government or anything lol, just that they found it deeply offensive.
Chinese and Indians have to live with the knowledge that they were the most advanced society for the longest period of human history, which gives them a lot more confidence regarding gaining back their prestige. This can led to them being really hawkish and defensive at times, as most of them don't think it's necessary to learn foreign cultures and perceptions and that they can dominate the world on their own strength alone.
@@satyakisil9711 Yep. Chinese people didnt look at themselves as a "growing country" or whatever. It was more that they were retaking their position as #1.
The same civilization that can’t take criticism at work are the same people that call all westerners snowflakes 🤦🏼 We’re all snowflakes on different terms
@@ChairmanMeow1 Kishore Mahbubani says that time and again.
@@ChairmanMeow1 well according to data, growing and all that China is close to be one of the best by economy, social standards, development in the next 10-20 years to come as they are a super big society following long term plans that gives them some kind of advantage about progress respect to classic democracy's
Clever use of the Chernozem name, as black earth is also the most fertile kind of soil there is.
Dude, i had to literaly slow down the Video because of the amount and Depth of the Information flowing to be able to comprehend at least parts of it!!!
Great video. Fascinating insights.
Your videos get better and better
Well researched, well written, well read, and we’ll illustrated. Keep up the good work.
I’m so glad CZcams put your videos in my recommendations. Whatifthist changed my perception of the world, religion, social constructs, and so much more. Little things I've always taken for granted such as religion I now look at it with a new sense of wonder and meaning.
I love this channel! Keep making videos
It's amazing at his age (23?) what he understands.. I think I would be depressed in my 20s to understand how the real world works at this depth
@@jfltech Right! He makes it make sense. It's a lot
@@jfltech Correct. I couldn't stop thinking about how the world works, so I got very depressed multiple times. First time when I was 12. I got into science and technology because I was afraid of death even when I was 7 or so. Turns out, my 5 year is like that as well. Yikes!
me too
look, I don't wanna crush your beliefs but Whatifthist doesn't know what he's talking about. He's just a boy who talks confidently but if you fact check anything he says, even his maps, he has no idea what he's on about. Please try and cross check what he's talking about.
29:06 Brahmins did not 'rule' India but rather held supremacy over religious texts and advised rulers aka Kshatriya caste sometimes.
he has no mind to differentiate between brahmana and brahmin , former is the god and later is the person who knows god through enlightenment, he said brahmins elevated themselves as gods which is historically false.
You put Islam as a united front but they are very divided even during the times of the Caliphate. They had their own leaders and way of thinking and each faction makes the other "Kafir" unbelieves and considers them not Muslim.
God Save Whatifalthist and his work ethic.
Thank you for making this enlightening video, Whatifalthist! I hope that love and peace prevail in the world! 🙏🇮🇳☮️☮️
@@ayman3763 🙏
Well deserved 444k subscribers mate. That was brilliant...
Just to weigh in on Africa.
Central Africa is more similar to Southern and East Africa as opposed to West Africa due to the Bantu expansion. Thus, it's more likely for an East African civilization to spread into most of Congo as opposed to a Nigerian centered one. You can see this as Congo is a member of the East African Community, Congo joining a West African Association would be as perplexing as Sweden joining an Association of Mediterranean states, for example.
Additionally, Southern and East Africa mirror each other strongly, so it's really unlikely an East African civilization wouldn't spread into most of the South or at the very least inspire clones of itself in Southern or Central Africa, its kinda how ideas mirror each other in different parts of the Anglophone world.
Additionally, in East Africa there is a significant divergence between the Horn of Africa, countries like Ethiopia, and the Great Lakes region, countries like Kenya. It's not likely that these to regions will combine into one East African civilization. Its like how Eastern Europe and the Caucasus have some similarities but no where near enough for them to form one thing.
Hope this helps understand our part of the world better. Used analogies to help Westerners visualise, not sure if all my analogies are super accurate.
I think it's also worth noting that for the Anglosphere, with their openness, technical and maritime prowess, and shared language that the Anglosphere is poised to become a civilization state much like China is today. It's a lot easier to maintain an empire when your People can easily traverse it and speak the same language which is exactly the situation it finds itself in today. The only other major language it is developing is Spanish (in a rather poor geography might I add) which will just make itself easy to integrate into and tie another continent to it at the hip for it to draw from as well as give space to improve.
1000 years is enough time for an entirely new language to develop. An English, Spanish, Internet hybrid could develop within North America that spreads to South America. English could be at the core but spanish words, phrases etc could gel into.
@@fluoroantimonictippedcruis1537 That's true, but remember that one of the conditions for language formation is isolation from mother language which we are not getting so long as the internet and television exist. There will be shifts, but there are enough connections amongst the various places to keep that to a minimum. And remember that even middle English is still intelligible with modern English which is from 1300. So likely there will be less changes overall, the changes will be likely far more widespread, and even then they'll be mostly intelligible with the language we started around today. Remember right now we're experiencing accent loss among English populations. That is something that's Unheard of historically but facilitated through the internet and television.
Where's Ireland? We dunno what we want. Or what we don't, either.
@@robleahy5759 Ireland is apart of the anglophone world. So whatever the majority the rest of the Anglo world is doing Ireland would most likely be involved on some level.
@@robleahy5759 Ireland is the little brother of Britain just as New Zealand is of Australia and Canada is of the US. The 6 countries have many differences but also many similarities. In order for Ireland to fully integrate with the Anglosphere, the British crown will probably need to be abolished (which I think will eventually happen) and all 6 become republics.
Also, another point that I think is worth talking about is your view on modern Chinese views are scarily correct. Chinese political theories has always been quite socialistic in nature. In the Analects (論語), Confuci says “(the rulers) suffers/worries not (from) insufficiency but suffers (from) inequity” (不患寡而患不均); in the Book of Changes (易經), which is another Confucian classic, outright says in the sigil of Benefit (益卦) that “harming up and benefitting low, the people’s joy is borderless” (損上益下，民說無疆); Lao Tze in Dao De Jing (道德經) also says “the way of the heaven is to tarnish those with surplus to compensate the insufficient, the way of man is to tarnish the insufficient and offers to those who have surplus” (天之道，損有餘而補不足；人之道，損不足而奉而餘). While I strongly believe Confuci himself is very against hateful philosophies like Marxism since he rallies for the old ruling class in feudalistic China and not the peasants, it’s important to note that China becoming Marxist and totalitarian is almost inevitable given its past political philosophy. And thus it is likely that totalitarian-socialistic philosophies will still be quite prominent in China unless the whole language-philosophy-identity trio comes to a devastating and complete collapse.
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Do you know about any influential chinese philosoper still alive today?
I don't think feudalism or any form of top down rule will succeed in the modern world. More democracy is what's needed, because otherwise the wealthy will abuse the modern logistics network and automation to artificially devalue workers labor and eventually cut them off completely once full automation arrives, where humans no longer write code, scientific papers, literature, manufacturing, production and distribution and allow those who don't own controlling interest in the ruling companies to wither away and die.
Philosophy tube did a pretty good video on the idea that Confucianism and Daoism are affected by two different approaches to handling the question: What do you do when elites don't need to follow cultural rules for any material reason?
@@mrsimoncote do you know any influential western philosopher still alive today? The philosophy of basically every civilization today is based off people who've been dead for centuries or millenia. East Asia is largely based around Confucism adapted to the local culture, which is why in general they are more collectivist than western civilization even when they are capitalists such as Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea. Modern western civilization is still largely based off the philosophers of the enlightenment period, which brought concepts like church/state separation, democratic governance, and universal human rights into play effectively giving us the modern world (after centuries of wars, and colonialism)
If you want a really good example of powerful African pop culture, the song Chismiten is a legendary rock song made by a band called Mdou Moctar. They’re from Niger…
Arguably the poorest country on the planet…
The song sounds better than songs in America like what the heck!!
As sad as it sounds it might happen what you said for Romania bc Romania history is:
-grow very fast
-become a regional power and generally one of the strongest country in Europe
-get invaded by a rising superpower and get destroyed by them
-be very poor and undeveloped and
-stop the superpower and become self rulling
-grow very fast again
Could you please elaborate reasoning behind your pro-turkish views?
I think Turkish culture with its ethno-nationalist character coupled with declining birth rate of turks in comparison to kurds means that a turkish nation in its current form is not sustainable (because most of the population wouldn't be turks but kurds and arabs) as a result i think Iran with its multi-ethnic character would be a better choice for a Middle Eastern superpower
Am i right or i missed something?
Iran also has a long history of dominating the Middle East. I agree with your assumption.
well iran cannot do it , as it is different culturally than middle east
@@kenpaichi-nl4dv They were the other times they conquered the region as well.
Fore real i think kurds will make atleast 30% of turkey population
Also turkey fertility rate in 1.70 children born/woman in 2021, it not good and I don't get why he pretending that turkey is not effected by population aging
Wow, whatif is really pushing out awesome stuff at a super, super quick pace. Amazing.
I like how all americans see the future really bright for america, none of them ever considering a major economic collapse and probable civil war.
What are your mistakes
1: The integration of Europe and the United States will either be entirely or not at all, because the European Union is already almost one country today.
2. America still consists almost entirely of European culture and will continue to be European, when you say Latin Americans, you forget that their culture is European, they have a Spanish culture.
3. The percentage of the US world economy will also fall due to the rise of Africa.
India likely to be world superpawar
Bro, You did a mistake.
Brahman and Brahim are two entirely different things.
Braham is highest universal principle, the ultimate reality in the universe. It refers to the single binding unity behind diversity in all that exists in the universe as per vedas.
Brahmin were not seen higher being like god but rather religious teachers( gurus). They were actually most poor class before zamindari system came in 1750s but were most influential.
They were seen as monks not divine beings.
Also, there is general idea of simplification in west that put caste system into 4 tier but there never existed four caste or even that in level of power in chronological order.
There were like more than hundreds and thousands caste and status was complicated where 1st is higher than 2nd but that 2nd is higher than 3rd but 3rd is lower than 1st but 2nd is richest.
It is such a mess that even Indians do not understand it rather than simple reservation and govt. benefits definition where caste that were presumed by govt. as socially deprived gets benefits.
Also, caste system is prevalent but is slowly fading out. Caste based discrimination has decreased by 80-90% since independence. I know some people will tell that there are still news about caste system but the fact that it has turned from a daily occurrence to rare news is a good progress. I know there are certain area like marriages where more work needs to done.
Are you seriously expecting accurate content from someone in their early twenties who never received an education beyond high school?
@@PedanticNo1 Why are you outing yourself like this? We don't need to know your personal info dawg.
@@PedanticNo1 he's doing better than you my guy. don't tear down people for trying.
@@pinkmann8399 Trump is doing better than all of us. So is Biden.
The guy has very high western Christian bias, he doesn't completely understand India and china
So please forgive the guy
That being said..... Akhand bharat is the idea he is getting behind without even knowing the concept and that's pretty good analysis
Great video! You can't forget how the internet, post-modernism, de-globalization, etc. will change everything and ultimately we have no idea how the future will look, probably completely alien, but this is one of the most up-to-date predictions I've seen.
Really the only prediction he has stated to be absolutely certain of us that the world is about to (or has already entered) a major crisis the likes of which hasn’t been seen since the 1300s.
I think you missed some huge players, Venezuela, Brazil and Argentina, they have way too many resources and if they figure out how to remove corruption for the established powers, they will have a huge advantage.
Whatifalthist bro.. you spit fax 🔥🔥🔥
I love seeing you do Far Future Stuff. Ever considered making a Timeline of probable future events?
I am seriously suprised Whatifalthist never mentioned potential of genetical engineering and manupilation and thus rise of neohumans and or new human species and subspecies
he did when talking about india
doubt it’ll happen on a mass scale
@@go_dawgs_8290if Indians could make themselves pale blonde hair blue eyed people they’d spend their life savings to do it.
32:01 That is a very nice illustration... Did you draw it?
this is so excellent i can't even tell how much. 11/10.
The thought of America becoming more Latin and less European is much more fascinating than scary. As you have mentioned previously, that transition has already begun.
Ironically, Latin has previously been the academic and religious language of Europe for two millennia.
America never identified as being European their citizens always considered themselves Americans and nothing else or strictly white.
Corruption and nepotism will be the norm forever..
Modern Europe was built on latin foundations, so it's really not much of a departure. Unless they revert back to their Celtic, Viking,Germanic and Gallic roots.
@@dolphineachonga555 different kind of latin
Your idea of Turkish /Islamic hybrid state does not reflect the reality in the Turkiye for the foreseeable future right now. Many of the younger generations (myself included) are more pro western and progressive / secular than the previous ones. They saw the negative sides and depression of the economy because of the current Erdogan regime and of the Islamist / Neo-Ottoman politics that the Goverment conducted in the last 10 years or so. Plus with the millions of "refugees" from the Syria and their damage in the Turkish society also significantly boosted the Xenophobia for the Arabs coming from the south. So I don`t really see Turkish Republic in the coming decades forming an empire or civilization with the Arab world. The people is just gonna oppose it.
you're right, it's true that you can speculate against alternate energy that exists. you can also program energy into alternate that exists.
I love how Ethiopia never changed during the course of the past 3-4 thousand years
Yeah bro I see there's a comment but I can't see it, wtf ? Tell me again lol
19:30 Also try to check out Botswana who is currently as rich as a country like Chile and only slightly behind Spain. It's also a place that was never created around a bunch of ethnic groups and instead around one tribe who in colonial times made the decision to be voluntarily colonized and then got left alone meaning it didn't suffer any of the negatives of colonization while also already having a generally pluralistic society and a decently organized one as their "kings" were elected based on competence. So it seems like a place ripe for expansion in the future.
Africa today feels like a place that is ripe for a new civilization to start at some point within the next few hundred years. Also your right. Botswana has a lot more cultural and domestic strength that they could use to spread either their borders or their identity and culture. If they find a way to coalesce the growing faiths in Africa into something they can use as a bedrock then they could become a civilization starting nation. Although, it does depend on how the future goes.
A landlocked nation in the middle of an otherwise war torn continent with the foresight to not pick fights and actually practicing democracy.
You just described the Switzerland of Africa...
I mean, it's a good deal if done right. They use their industrialism to create modernised infrastructure for the country, allow them to mine or whatever to make their money and eventually use their own system to regain independence whilst still having an abundance of resources. I might be wrong, but I understand in India a lot of older people actually celebrate the commonwealth whilst still acknowledgingthe more evil aspects of it, which there were many, but chose to praise the law system they inherited, the roads that were built, the victories in battles they fought in alongside their commonwealth brothers....in many ways it must be conflicting
Just because United States become more Latinized it doesn't mean many of us won't consider ourselves Western. I'm Puerto Rican I consider myself as a Western man, and I even heard many Latin American professors and Scholars consider themselves as Western people too for obvious reasons that our heritage is from Europe...
I like this video. I know it is impossible to predict outcomes, but interesting to speculate.
The last 5 minutes are the reason why I wish I was immortal like I wanna see that happening
This is one of the coolest videos not only from this channel but on this site. I need a pt 2 🔥🔥
Do you ever feel like you're looking behind the curtain with these? A ton of this feels spot on.
I would've loved to see what a Latin American civilization would look like
Great job trying to predict this w all these cultural factors.
Really fantastic video as always, thanks so much for this! Just a few quick comments as i lived in east africa for a few years:
1 - I think you meant to say Rwanda will take over the eastern part of DRC? Burundi is its extremely poor neighbor which has a stifling autocracy
2 - Lagos is pronounced "Lay-gos" by most of the Nigerians I have met
Also, note that the industrialization of Kenya and Ethiopia is happening quite slowly especially given the continued political turmoil and conflict in Ethiopia. I would be curious to hear your take on whether these African countries can really become the next generation of low cost manufacturing, or if they may be outcompeted by South and Southeast Asian countries which have a greater headstart, stronger infrastructure, more stable governments etc
It is generally not wise to gauge things from the present, such as present conflicts. For example, the conflict in Ethiopia has now reached a peace agreement. A secular (long term) view is preferable.
The PRC seems to be trying to outsource their low wage manufacturing to Africa (and Central Asia) while sending their technostructure executives, (managers, foremen, techs, etc.) to those places. Given the gender imbalance among the population in the PRC, you wonder if that won't lead to a composite civilization?
18:06 Rudyard, thanks for showing so many of our Nigerian artists and celebrities here! Love your videos!
Great video!
This is easily and by far the most important youtube channel in my life. These videos mean so much to me. Thank you for changing the way I think about the world and inspiring me to work toward a greater future.
Thanks for this video. Other people might not have taken on such a difficult topic, but you did and made plausible guesses as to the distant future of the world.
About the suicide of Western civilization: In a previous video you defined "decadence" as "disconnect from reality" and the cause of decadence is "Urban class that can afford to disconnect from reality and who's live is mostly a popularity contest."
Undoubtly, this characteristic applies perfectly to the woke-movement. However, the diffrence to previous decadent civilizations is the power structure: In previous civilisations only those who's power over the system was absolutly fortified could afford to be decadent.
That is the big diffrence to the woke movement: Their power is not entrenched. Yes, the woke movement has a high level of control over the Main Stream Media and keeps attacking free speech wherever they can, however their power is not deeply entrenched. They lack centralized leadership and strategic thinking, there is plenty of infighting within the woke movement., therefore they will most likely not make Western civilization fail but will fail in consolidating their power over Western Civilization.
The biggest danger is, what caused the woke movement to exist: Our food production and production of basic need is automized to an extend that in the future there will always be an "Urban class that can afford to disconnect from reality and who's live is mostly a popularity contest."
I totally agree. You can apply similar logic to the future "urban class that can afford to disconnect from reality." They are the transhumanists: those obsessed with material life, physical pleasures, longevity, virtual reality, computer science, etc. Automation of labor will allow them to become literally disconnected from reality as they experiment with the mechanization and alteration of their bodies and minds. And in the same way the woke movement does not have entrenched power, but only temporary and superficial ascendance, transhumanist power will stem from computer science - their algorithm or AI telling them what to do, what to say, how to think, what to eat, an so on in the name of efficiency, utility and their self-hatred fueled "meh humans are dumb" ideology. (There is a great degree of similarity between woke-ism and transhumanism.)
Many (if not most) people in this world will probably see the transhuman trend as totally de-humanizing - a surrendering of not only sovereignty, but of humanity, and will likely react against this type of culture in the strongest of terms. Perhaps at that time, we will see a real shift in values and power structures away from disaffected urbanites and more sane power structures may arise.
Transhumanism is the ultimate decadence, absolutely beyond the pale of self-indulgence, self-aggrandizement, delusion, and escapism. It will take off primarily in the US, specifically the west coast. The strongest reactions against this trend will stem also from the US, and in Russia and the Islamic world in particular. It's my opinion that this is becoming one the greatest dividing conflicts in human history and the degree to which people accept or reject transhumanism will play a huge role in shaping future cultures and religious ideologies.
Actually i would place the blame on a combination of 1.) the wider left-leading response to the growth of fanatical religious views since the 60s, and 2.) the political hijackings of certain left-leaning goals and views by nefarious shadow agents since said times.
The woke movement is more of a symptom than an actual cause. The fact something like the woke movement is even able to have a voice the way it does is that the West is already dead. Unlike Whatifalthist I don't think the Anglo world will be able to be branch off quick enough and succumb to a similar fate as the rest of the West, however it'll come out of that very different and independent from Western Europe.
I think North America probably will fracture and Balkanize (although not as bloody as the actual Balkans). See his videos on the Nations of America. I can totally see the West coast becoming somewhat of a seperate state that still heavily participates in the global economy, while the more interior parts of the country regress economically and have more of a religious and social revival.
The US govt will still probably continue to exist, but more as a charade. ie the West Coast might becomes the part of America that does all the economic stuff, like the coastal part of Nigeria. While the interior might turn into Far Cry 5 like regions as long as they play along that they're part of the political entity of the United States (Think of it like this, those areas might become no go zones for federal law enforcement, unless invited and they might not actually pay federal income tax, or very little, but they are still a part of the "US" on paper).
The quote-unquote “woke movement” is not the only opponent of free speech in the US. Might I refer you to the Republican-run state of Florida and the “Don’t Say Gay” bill which has actually been codified into law in that state, along with conservative local jurisdictions banning certain books such as “Beloved” in public school districts all over the country.
@@gregbors8364 - Quote marks are the same as ‘quote-unquote’ - no need to repeat twice.
Also you need to read a little around the ‘don’t say gay’ bill. It’s more complicated than MSNBC have been telling you.
Always Fascinating!!!
As a Star Trek (TOS) fan, an amateur social scientist, and one hoping for extreme longevity, I long have been wondering what societies would rise out of ours 10,000 and 100,000 years from now.
Look to the distant past for the answer.
@@cactusray3368 , please tell me what you saw. I yet had not been round.
@@DavidRLentz Life was short and brutish and that's how we liked it damn it.
@@cactusray3368 , you go hunt the beasts. I shall chronicle the event in cuneiform on this mud tablet for our respective great grandchildren to show to their children.
@@DavidRLentz You have a deal! 😉