@Rinluyen420 truth brother, truth. When I was in Turkey I bought a "fairly expensive" men's wedding ring. (Because it had four bands for each wife you're allowed to have.) at a nice-ish establishment. The quality was crap compared to anything at all you'd get anywhere else. It's a conversation piece though.
My everyday carry firearm is a turkish Canik tp9da. I trust it and never once failed to feed after all the rounds I put through it at the range. It is extremely accurate and very well-built.
@@270Winchester absolutely as a army combat veteran I can safely say I trust this pistol to protect my family and myself. It never fails to feed it runs without any malfunction and it is highly accurate. I think I paid about $330 after tax. I absolutely love this firearm. I also like how it is designed very similar to the Walther.
be careful, after a shot, the plastic cover on the back can break off after a point and the den gear can get into your eyes, there is no metal like a glock
As a Turkish who studies on Weapon Industries, let me explain. Most of the shotgun factories are in Konya, it's a city that is close to the Capital Ankara. Also these factories producing their guns in the same Industrial Area in Huğlu. There's also a Shotgun Makers Cooperative (Huğlu Tüfek Kooperatifi) that makes the order of parts for nearly every factory. That's why Turkish shotguns are cheap, easy to clean and swap parts and modify. Live this passion, because we can't.
Same I’m Australian born Syrian and I know I’d be a completely different person if I had firearms and access to them, it’s a hobby that’s fun, keeps us protected from bad people and when practiced responsibly (and legally, fuck ever buying an illegal gun. Imagine the possible jail time isn’t justifiable for me because I’m not a gang member but I’ll happily join the local police or army reserve) Army reserve is the best IMO protect your country, did you do your military service?
@@method2madness1 Not yet. I am 19 right now, the age for Service is 20 in Turkey. When I graduate, I have 10 years to delay my service. I will also join to army if something happens.
Yeah my dad bought one of those shotguns (no reason at all pure Turkish mentality) and these guns are actually pretty cheap, even in our not-so-good economy. I always wondered why, turns out we're good at killing.
Yes, my Winchester SXP comes from Turkey as well. Also Fabarm from Italy gets parts from Turkey and some of their guns are assembled there. And, I must say, my turkish guns work very well!
@blackbull7717 for sure, my brother has a CZ 1012, it's a Turkish rebrand..for 700+/- he got wood stocks, ceracote finish on receiver and barrel, set of 5 gnurled extended chokes, nice "velvet" lined case, has some trouble with light target loads since they don't offer a target load spring, but runs really well with some fast shooting 1 1/8oz stuff. Kicks like a mule though, it's way to light lol 😆
@@a.e.770 öyle olsa bile sanki insanlık tarihi boyunca sadece türkler savaşıp insan öldürmüş gibi davranıyorsunuz. Sahte hümanizm yapmayı bırakın artık.
I know a guy who runs a Tristar semi-auto 12 for hunting. He's beaten that thing to hell and back for years now. Including dropping it out of tree stands onto rocks. He swears by it.
@@darrengarcia4937 The semi-auto guns are a bit iffy still but the pump guns seem pretty decent for the money. I'm with you on the autoloaders though, I have an LE model Benelli M4 and I'm not gonna trust a knockoff Turkish copy of it regardless of if I still have the real deal or not based on some things I've heard about them.
Yeah me too. He mentioned GFORCE arms I don’t know about their pump but their semi auto gun is fantastic for me. It’s a AR-12. Can’t switch the controls so it’s a right handed gun but that’s fine. People like made horrible reviews online “It takes 500 rounds of expensive high velocity to break in” mine took one box. I did leave my bolt locked open for a month or so before firing. Maybe that helped with cycling , idk. Turkish guns are oversprung a lot of times common complaint. People like “Well the sights flip down so I have to buy new ones” Well mine don’t and they work absolutely great. But it’s not like Daniel defense iron sights aren’t 100$ or anything. Cheap fucks. Anywho it looks like quality control isn’t the best with these guns . Test them out and run your gun specifically. Then you’ll know if you got a good one or a lemon.
My complaint that no one talked about. It has no butt pad. No recoil control or anything , ouch. I fixed that immediately, also no easy QD MOUNT system and that makes me upset. Quad rail , Mlok . It also has pic mount on the end of the shotgun. I think I’ll mount a light and call it good.
@@illuminati2341people are realizing that canik ain’t it. Why get a dollar tree Walther knockoff when you can get the superior and far more reliable real thing for not much more
I own a pump and a semi auto shotgun made in Turkey, both have functioned flawlessly even after thousands of shells through them, both of them were less than $200.
It really depends on the company. They basically have 3 levels of quality. "Fair", or decent out of the box, "Almost got it", usually needs a little TLC and a couple of new parts to run right and "Hellno" or gun assembled so poorly you wouldn't let your enemies use. Most fall into Fair to Almost got it, but because of their nonexistent quality control the bad ones more than make up for it
@@holdtheline8814 Doesn’t matter he built it for the Turks because they were the only ones with the resources and will to make it. Without them the guns wouldn’t have been made. Probably would’ve prolonged his life too thinking on it, but he lives in history.
@@TheTurkicCc I am checking my book again because of you and a strict governmental production only means they can set any price they want , i've saw those shotguns irl tho and they look very solid
Like someone else said, Turkish guns are cheap to buy but good quality for the most part. I’ve had 2 sarsilmaz K2P 9mm CZ clones and I’ve loved them. Never had any jams or had any worry they would break and they’re just as accurate as any other “name brand” pistol I’ve owned.
@@cenetruhi I didn’t know what it meant, I looked it up and that’s roughly what everyone says. They’re good guns. I understand the hesitation to buy foreign guns that are cheap but I’ve never had a problem with them. The Turks know war and I doubt they would want sub par guns.
@@bandolierboy1908 mine is the same gun with a rail for lights or lasers on the bottom so I don’t doubt you love it. Everyone I’ve let shoot mine was hesitant at first but then they put a mag through it and they changed their minds real quick. Only problem I ever had was using aftermarket tangfolio mags because the base plate was a bit too thick and it wouldn’t go quite far enough to get a good positive lock. Sanded it down a hair and it fits nicely and gives a good positive lock. Never had issues with jams, all ammo I’ve used runs great. Easy to strip and clean, accurate. Not as sexy as other CZ’s but function is my main concern over looks.
Not cheap. Inexpensive. Big difference. I have many high end guns, but I started buying Turkish guns about 6-7 years ago. And i gotta tell you, they’re just as good, and cost half as much
I totally agree with you, and that’s just exactly like their drones. For arguments sake, the TB2 drones excel the Israeli Heron drones are for (USA)$10 Milllion. On the other hand, you have the Turkish drones, (the TB2 Bayraktar ‘Baykar’ series ) which will outperform the heroine drones by a mile stone, and a half regarding altitude stability. Automatic return to the airbase and can handle any weather conditions yeah, when it comes to pricing that is Rayleigh Heron drones are $10 million. Where is the Turkish drones TV 2 series are worth only $2 million. There’s a damn good reason for that, and it has nothing to do purely with quality . By Islam, you are not allowed to profit more than 100% of whatever you sell or trade.. and since Turkey, being a devoted Muslim country with a history of 32 empires till date. Because they follow their religion, tradition, and just because we have morals and values, it doesn’t make Türkiye’s items any lesser in terms of quality nor craftsmanship. But please feel free to google or research everything that I have just said, and feel free to prove me otherwise because you are more than welcome to if you can, and I’m saying this adamantly with such audacity because I know for a fact, this is true being a Turk myself without all the hype bullshit that goes along with generally people who try to boast about their homeland hence, I’m inviting you to a challenge to prove me otherwise. Appreciate you for making your opinion, loud and clear to everyone globally
@@clancyrosenberg614 being a Jew of course you’re going to find this funny or laugh at it from fear there’s no other way about it. Mr Rosenberg Who seems to have an interest in Cryogenics clan.. You’re on for a debate without going into insulting each other seriously
@@davidcajchun6832 i have a Landor arms AR-12 that i love but i’ve also heard the panzer arms ones are pretty good. i’m not too familiar with the bullpup type shotguns though.
No problem using standardized parts. They work fine and that's what matters. they don't need different shaped trigger guards, different styles of safeties, etc.
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@@danmarcell3167 I would assume a higher number, but the conditions of firearm factories is above average for workers as far as I know.
@ the steel comes from a mine that I'm sure the condition are not that great and I wouldn't support anything coming out of anywhere that has slavery involved
@@danmarcell3167 dude I'm born and raised and still living in Turkey since '98. Modern slavery thing means working for low income considering workload I guess. Yeah that's right it sucks. But I can assure you miners and big brand factory workers making good money. I myself earn 6-7k monthly when miners and workers make way more than 15k per month. Given that minimum wage is recently went up 8.5k to 11k. I assure you anyone evolved in producing and transfer your gun makes quite good money.
@@danmarcell3167 and if you want .12 hunting tactical rifle I can suggest you Serengeti firearms. I been in their production factory and main store, spoke to designer and tested them; I can say they're awesome. Here it's around 10k lira but I don't know how much it's in US. I guess it's around 800-1200$.
Do you know what kind of barrels they're comparable with? I've got a pump with a field barrel now, I want to get an 18" barrel on it and was gonna just take a swing at another Turkish made 12gauge but not sure what to go for
If I'm not mistaken, "All gun owners in Turkey have the same tastes" A Turk Said, (And for a Turkish man, Guns are Very Expensive, and the difference makes the price even higher😅
@@pan2ajaForeign made firearms taxed heavily and gun license(to own not for carrying)cost close to the gun itself and if you dont have a profession that has risks of being attacked like jeweler,lawyer,member of a parliament its nearly impossible to get a carry license.
@@jic1owadays the AR platform is 100% the king in that regard. Back in the day, that was what the AK platform was known for above any other rifle. The guns were reliable, the parts were often interchangeable. Plus, basic AK maintenance was taught in Soviet primary schools, so basic knowledge about the platform was universal throughout Eastern Europe and (after the fall over the Soviet Union,) would spread beyond and into popular culture, even among people who had never held a gun and never would. Until the AR platform was able to conquer its reputation from Vietnam as being “unreliable” and “complicated,” the AK would remain in popular culture as the model of a simple, reliable rifle.
@@jic1That's exactly what the AR is great. You can buy a basic bear bones package for $800 and build up up to a good 2k package over time using available parts, or buy a high end but basic 2k package and add all the bells and whistles you want you'd otherwise have to buy another rifle for Until commiecornia, liberal Washington and similar states stop with the state collision forcing makers to add redundant unsafe features from its newborn era ours will be prone to failure/malfunction though
@@jic1I really want a skeletonized pxode aluminum AR-10 for hunting here in Alaska because it's one of the only America rifles capable of matching and exeeding our old Remington 700s/Winchester model 70s Light, will strongly resist corrosion in salt air, well crafted aluminum will beat walnut in cold resistance and best of all with a perfected gas piston you can get full pressure in the chamber in the mountains as you would along the ocean coast while also being able to tone it down so you can use the same rifle on small game in survivalist situations
While I don’t have any contemporary Turkish arms, from what I’ve seen they mostly are well crafted for their price point. I do have a couple of Turkish Mausers circa 1930’s that shoot very well.
A turkish guns will dominate , they are cheap and very good , one gunshop in my area sold like 1000+ and never had a single reported issue , also so the pistols
I bought a panzer arms semi auto 12 ga bullpup, at a gunshow, just for fun. After a short hi brass break in period, to my surprise the damned thing turned out to be excellent. Im a gunsmith, so i did a little work to it, including a buffer to keep it from beating itself up, but really its been excellent. Its smooth bore so i use it for testing exotic 12 ga ammo, but I'd trust it completely in a self defense situation.
It may be that all the shotguns are made by the same manufacturer???In the past Mossberg,Remington and others would make guns under different names for major retailers such as JC Higgins (Mossberg)was made for Sears I believe.
I dont think so sir because all turkey trademarks fallow the trends old times ak clone or ar 15 clone (shotguns) pistol hp35 browning or browning model t2 old times beretta 92 or diffrent guns we make a clone but absolutely quality clone
But a few years we make a orginal desings meke try But a few years ago we make a orginal desings make try and usa and europa liked this new model pistol
The JC Higgins line was produced/manufactured by High Standard, Savage, Stevens and Marlin not Mossberg. But Mossberg Did make the New Haven 600 and Western Field 550, For Montgomery Ward and Western Auto So your point is valid.
Absolutely! when inflation hits, government makes every product cheaper than their dollar prices and they add extra taxes for their loss. And this makes everything cheaper for foreigners
The fact that pc parts are more expensive than any other country (on dolar. Lets say we are paying 300 for a gpu, its most likely that gpu is 280 in west or any other country. the taxes are crazy)
I am looking forward to see some good quality Turkish shotguns in the US market like Huglu, Derya and Stoeger. All i am seeing is wierd brands that i have never heard of in Turkey.
@@unworthy4142I dislike my M3k. Speck of marsh water and it doesn’t want to function, paint rubs off super easy, cheap metals for things like the trigger and bolt charging handle caused them to rust like immediately, not the best customer service, can’t buy individual parts from Stoeger, and having Benelli functions and pressures on cheaper metal just doesn’t mix i find metal shaving from rubbing somewhere. My advice is to stay away from Stoeger and just get one of the other Benelli umbrella brands like Beretta or Franchi, they have Benelli quality for just a little more than what you can get a new M3k or M3500 for
Love my full-size Turkish 1911. Got my first pistol from Tisas and slapped on some Pachmayr wood/rubber grips. It's great for hiking but can be a little bulky for carrying concealed if you're not a bigger person.
You get what you pay for, though. I bought a Citadel 12 ga auto for $330. It would not cycle one round and it would not fore even once. Citadel were jerks about it even though it was brand new and never fired. I bought a Typhoon Defense F12 Puma Classic for about $900. Beautifully finished product...even the packaging is as good as it gets.
I live in a place that near of the beyşehir and all turkish made shotguns are produced in beyşehir. For years all producers used same designs and plans but every factory produces their gun themselves with different materials using this designs. However these designs are really safe and quick working.
@@Wastelandman7000 no its not. House prices in Turkey are more expensive. technology prices are almost 1.5-2 times more expensive. car prices are 3 times more expensive Food prices in Turkey are cheaper (I don't think they are of the same quality), handwork is cheaper. rental prices are cheaper
@@Wastelandman7000nah bro cost of living is getting more expensive every day. İn two/three years LİTERALLY everything's price doubled or even tripled. İt's sad people voted who is responsible for this shit again :(
Another consideration is that if you ever actually need to use it to protect yourself it WILL be confiscated. Personally I would rather hand over one of my garage guns or "Turkish Specials" than my better/pricier guns
The reason why they do this is so 1. It's cheaper to make 2. So every one of them are reliable due to each part being the same and therefore under the same improvements. Basically anything that could make apart faulty or slightly less durable can be fixed and all of the next shotguns produced with the improved parts will benefit
@Hornet135 aye thank you, the F-104 you see in this is just a F-104C in the American tech tree(war thunder is the game). Btw hornet, "hornet" makes me think of the F/A-18 naval fighters. So that prob means I should be scared of ya as a fighter craft. (I usually do a character here too. Last sentence was abit of my character thing )
Turkish guy here, Turkish guns cheap and similar because they made in same place Üzümlü Konya or in Konya some where else but same factorys or same city they using similar producer, as a Turkish I prefer Hatsan, sarsılmaz,yıldız shotgun they mostly make guns for imports like USA and EU stay safe
I have a “Webley & Smith” shotgun that I bought for around $250 that I assume was made in Turkey. Looked like the same loading gate and other parts. It’s a decent 12 gauge and I accidentally ran over it with my side by side and it still works fine
Some 3rd world countries also use Turkish parts and sometimes gun owners repair rifles with them even when they weren't actually built expecting the swap. Standardization is a wonderful thing
I once broke my pasters winchester when I walked into some brush expecting my duck, but got a angry moose. He had our churches subsistence leader fix it and I guess his Winnie was able to take parts from the same receiver I'm seeing here 😂
Im sure a gun designed around the trigger housing does great, makes sure you know any improvement mods wont be implemented if they cant take the super critical "trigger housing" of the gun.
I bought a Cavalry over and under 28 g. a few yrs back. I haven't even shot it yet. Its a nice gun with beautiful scrolling of a clay pigeon in the air with trees and other intricate scrolling. The wood is walnut. Its light and a pretty shot gun but I know nothing about this brand. I paid a little over $ 600. If anyone knows anything about this company I would like to hear.
Something I only learned recently, damn near the whole world has sub contracted the manufacturing of shotguns to Turkey. If you want a shotgun that isn't, there's the Mossberg 590 and the Remington 870. That's about it.
You gotta expand your understanding of shotguns. Maybe all cheap semi auto shotguns are made in turkey, but there isn’t a single skeet or trap gun made there.
@@SirMattomaton A person? Ha, I wish a person would sell it. The military industry in Colombia that's the only legal entity that can sell firearms to the public gouges prices like a mf, and that is without the permit. A glock 17 3rd gen goes for 2000 right now and the paperwork and additional fees are just ridiculous. And don't let me get started on the ammo, oh the ammo. You're allowed two 50 round boxes EVERY SIX MONTHS, and they go for around $45-50 while being the equivalent of winchester white box fmj round nose, because these MFs don't even sell hollow point ammo, and 38 special standard pressure? $170 a box of 50 because apparently it's rarer than 9mm. You might see why we see $400-600 a reasonable price for a Turkish shotgun. Oh, and we can't get any handgun caliber above the caliber .360, not that they sell us .357 mag in the first place, lol
@@Charles-A Colombiano here. Are you Colombian too? I am in the process to legalize a less lethal gun (traumática) a Turkish gun replica of the Córdova pistol, the only thing that is my reach because aso you said, guns are ridiculously expensive here.
Same is true for ARs.. A lot of the parts come from the same OEM manufacturers just different levels of QC. Very few make their parts in house, Anderson and Daniel defense being two off the top of my head lol
Got an Akaar Churchill, also Turkish. Its a little different but its the offchild of Benelli as they own Akaar as a mother company. 200$ out the door with background, killer little unit. Never jammed and runs all but 3inch smooth and has eaten a few hundred shells by now. Sometimes 1" shells tumble and wont pop out but hey, for a budget shotgun its a winner for sure
Good option for people with less disposable income while still getting a (fairly) well built gun. The one thing I dislike about the firearm community is the elitist mentality many have, although to be fair that is a common problem in many hobbies that have a high barrier of entry.
Snobs are everywhere. With guitarists its Gibson guitars. With woodworkers its tools. (go look at the great Festool Domino debate LOL) And of course gun owners. As someone said in another video, does it go off every time you pull the trigger? Yes? That's all that matters. Cool points don't matter when the chips are down. What matters is your tool does the job when you need it too. If you're alive because of that firearm, you made a good purchase. I don't care if its a Turkish shotgun or a Hi-point carbine. If it kept you alive the gun did its job. If the gun did its job, no matter its shortcomings, you did good.
What is the most annoying thing for me about these snobs is that most of them have never owned any of the guns they're criticizing. Plus they make really ridiculous statements. I've seen them say they'd rather have no gun at all than _____. Really? So you're willing to commit suicide because you're too proud to use a cheap gun? I'm going to heroically refrain from saying what I think about THAT.
I've also noted that a lot of the loudest critics are the ones who are selling something. Either training or accessories. So they take a dump on everything they're not pushing. They very quickly loose my respect doing that.
@@Wastelandman7000I cross multiple hobby communities and I've gotta say the only subject snobs that can beat the gun snobs are the comic book snobs. There's so much room for individual taste in both and the "elites" in both seem to hit this same point where only *their* view is the only valid take on the subject. With guns, though, there's an issue of price point snobbery. Like a $900 red dot with a gold logo visible 40 ft away works better than a $200 budget RD or hunting with anything less than a $2,500 imported over-under is "slumming" They don't seem to understand that after a certain point they're just paying for the brand and aesthetics, not quality
Mercedes and Renault, Mazda and Ford (believe me or not, I saw what it looked like a Ford Fiesta, but it was an effing Mazda 123🤯), BM double V and Toyota💀
I thought everyone figured it out with the Turkish bullpups a couple of years ago when a dozen import companies were importing a dozen "different" shotguns that were identical except for the tacticool & molded plastic parts
Because they barely work, and if they do, you'll be lucky if it's for more than 300 rounds. They're all made with the same parts because it's basically one company making them and they slap different levels on them so that you try one cheap gun, it sucks, maybe you'll try a different brand of Turkish shotgun. Well that money goes to the same guys, and it's basically the same gun.
@@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq I bought from a dealer, sent one for repair, and it came with another problem. The stock literally came loose while shooting at the range. The pump mechanism is so rough, it's like comparing a bike to a Lamborghini, considering my Remington.
@@kevingp12 Now that I think about it, I don't think iv ever tried a Turkish shotgun and just rifles. All my uncle's shotguns passed down were made in Belgium or the U.S
I bought my first AR and then found out about Canik and the turkish arms industry. I am now hunting for my second canik and got Turan ammo. Next is turkish shotguns. I need a third trip to Turkiye. I am in love with the place and the people. ❤. Would love a factory tour..
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Have you shot that Panzer arms M4? If so what are your thoughts?
Where do I get cheap Turkish shotgun
Do you every shot with the Turkish shotgun utaş uts 15
Our guns with Muslim quality is the king!
@@ultramegahighendroyalsulta2790 in the theory Turkiye isnt a Muslim country
Shows cheap turkish shotguns, shows Greek war shirt. Absolute legend
Don't get it what do you mean?
@kadiryagzgorece2082 it means your gay
@@kadiryagzgorece2082 What do you mean? It's really not like he's being belligerent.
Congratulations to Turkiye and Erdoğan on their recent election win!
@@kadiryagzgorece2082greece and turkey historicly have been enemys
This man has more Turkish shotguns than a Turkish garrison unit.
😂😂😂😂😂
eh probably
that's because he bought them all for the price of one good shotgun =D
@Rinluyen420 truth brother, truth.
When I was in Turkey I bought a "fairly expensive" men's wedding ring. (Because it had four bands for each wife you're allowed to have.) at a nice-ish establishment. The quality was crap compared to anything at all you'd get anywhere else. It's a conversation piece though.
@@LozenColorado we don't approve that sort of stuff as a country mostly ( 4 wife's stuff) but i am glad you enjoy that ring lol
All my Turkish shotguns work very well. Great home defense tools
@joehuff4025 u try derya mk12?
Proof that turkish folks have aim issue so they choose shotgun
as an turkish even my dad uses same turkish shotgun over 20 years and still not broken
I just picked up a semi one arrives in 10 day❤
I agree I have a akkar 12 gauge it’s a great one
My everyday carry firearm is a turkish Canik tp9da. I trust it and never once failed to feed after all the rounds I put through it at the range. It is extremely accurate and very well-built.
Yep canik is a great brand. Picked up there tp9sf on sale for 250 at academy recently and easily the best value pistol i own.
@@270Winchester absolutely as a army combat veteran I can safely say I trust this pistol to protect my family and myself. It never fails to feed it runs without any malfunction and it is highly accurate. I think I paid about $330 after tax. I absolutely love this firearm.
I also like how it is designed very similar to the Walther.
@@NicCageForPresident2024As a Turk you just made me proud my man. I wish your family the best. ❤️🇹🇷
@@NicCageForPresident2024 lol its $550 in turkey but 330 for USA and 300USD in bulgaria...
be careful, after a shot, the plastic cover on the back can break off after a point and the den gear can get into your eyes, there is no metal like a glock
As a Turkish who studies on Weapon Industries, let me explain.
Most of the shotgun factories are in Konya, it's a city that is close to the Capital Ankara. Also these factories producing their guns in the same Industrial Area in Huğlu. There's also a Shotgun Makers Cooperative (Huğlu Tüfek Kooperatifi) that makes the order of parts for nearly every factory. That's why Turkish shotguns are cheap, easy to clean and swap parts and modify. Live this passion, because we can't.
Same I’m Australian born Syrian and I know I’d be a completely different person if I had firearms and access to them, it’s a hobby that’s fun, keeps us protected from bad people and when practiced responsibly (and legally, fuck ever buying an illegal gun. Imagine the possible jail time isn’t justifiable for me because I’m not a gang member but I’ll happily join the local police or army reserve)
Army reserve is the best IMO protect your country, did you do your military service?
@@method2madness1 Not yet. I am 19 right now, the age for Service is 20 in Turkey. When I graduate, I have 10 years to delay my service. I will also join to army if something happens.
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Great insight
Thank you
Konya ??Like Ikonio??
All Turkish guns are cheap...But most have good quality for the money....i have a Canik and a Tisas 1911....I love both of them.
All Turkish?😮🤯 I have a bullpup and I love it🙂
@@slowveloster5388 well...All the ones I have. 🤷🏿♂️
@Purified Water II Who Said I have a $8000 shotgun? You must believe the opposite of the things you read....🤣
@Purified Water II Cheap, doesn't mean Bad Quality...It just means Cheap....
That Tisas kicks ass bro
Almost all American branded shotguns are either made in turkey or use some Turkish parts..if I heard correctly Remington is now being made in turkey
Türkiye is a country that has taken the world's dick in arms productionawfjawaw
100 million tons of weapons per year ☠️
Yeah my dad bought one of those shotguns (no reason at all pure Turkish mentality) and these guns are actually pretty cheap, even in our not-so-good economy. I always wondered why, turns out we're good at killing.
Yes, my Winchester SXP comes from Turkey as well.
Also Fabarm from Italy gets parts from Turkey and some of their guns are assembled there.
And, I must say, my turkish guns work very well!
@blackbull7717 for sure, my brother has a CZ 1012, it's a Turkish rebrand..for 700+/- he got wood stocks, ceracote finish on receiver and barrel, set of 5 gnurled extended chokes, nice "velvet" lined case, has some trouble with light target loads since they don't offer a target load spring, but runs really well with some fast shooting 1 1/8oz stuff. Kicks like a mule though, it's way to light lol 😆
its probably because our president sell all of our factories to foreign countries
Turkey has been kicking ass in the gun industry
And Killing into. unfortunately.
@@a.e.770 öyle olsa bile sanki insanlık tarihi boyunca sadece türkler savaşıp insan öldürmüş gibi davranıyorsunuz. Sahte hümanizm yapmayı bırakın artık.
@@a.e.770 ok go cry about that
@@devlenserhat not really through 17th century till the cold war
Şuna yatırılan para eğitime yatırılsa
Turkish shotgun owner here, I bought a great tactical shotgun and it’ll chamber, fire, and extract any shell you feed it 👌
I know a guy who runs a Tristar semi-auto 12 for hunting. He's beaten that thing to hell and back for years now. Including dropping it out of tree stands onto rocks. He swears by it.
@@Wastelandman7000 armaelegant SLBX3 (I believe I got the sub model right)
How do you know that i am that türkisch guy😂😂
TFBTVs videos have shown me enough to be happy with my M4 and 930
@@darrengarcia4937 The semi-auto guns are a bit iffy still but the pump guns seem pretty decent for the money. I'm with you on the autoloaders though, I have an LE model Benelli M4 and I'm not gonna trust a knockoff Turkish copy of it regardless of if I still have the real deal or not based on some things I've heard about them.
First gun a bought was a Turkish made shotgun. I've cleaned it maybe 5 times in 4 years and have gone through maybe 2k shells, no issue
Yeah me too. He mentioned GFORCE arms I don’t know about their pump but their semi auto gun is fantastic for me. It’s a AR-12. Can’t switch the controls so it’s a right handed gun but that’s fine.
People like made horrible reviews online
“It takes 500 rounds of expensive high velocity to break in”
mine took one box. I did leave my bolt locked open for a month or so before firing. Maybe that helped with cycling , idk. Turkish guns are oversprung a lot of times common complaint.
People like
“Well the sights flip down so I have to buy new ones”
Well mine don’t and they work absolutely great. But it’s not like Daniel defense iron sights aren’t 100$ or anything. Cheap fucks. Anywho it looks like quality control isn’t the best with these guns . Test them out and run your gun specifically. Then you’ll know if you got a good one or a lemon.
My complaint that no one talked about. It has no butt pad. No recoil control or anything , ouch. I fixed that immediately, also no easy QD MOUNT system and that makes me upset. Quad rail , Mlok . It also has pic mount on the end of the shotgun. I think I’ll mount a light and call it good.
Turkish guns are underrated
Not really the Canik Brand is very popular and well known
GAY*
@@jackinhoffonurmomdont cry
Some of em are amazing. Some are lower end, budget bro.
@@illuminati2341people are realizing that canik ain’t it. Why get a dollar tree Walther knockoff when you can get the superior and far more reliable real thing for not much more
I own a pump and a semi auto shotgun made in Turkey, both have functioned flawlessly even after thousands of shells through them, both of them were less than $200.
Turkish guns are underrated imo, Pretty cheap and fine quality.
It really depends on the company. They basically have 3 levels of quality. "Fair", or decent out of the box, "Almost got it", usually needs a little TLC and a couple of new parts to run right and "Hellno" or gun assembled so poorly you wouldn't let your enemies use.
Most fall into Fair to Almost got it, but because of their nonexistent quality control the bad ones more than make up for it
Tisas 1911s are perfect for someone who wants a 1911 but doesn’t want to pay 2 grand for a pistol
Bayraktar boys
Like no other.
Canik is great quality firearms for the $
@@gokhanarslan5249they are talking about firearms not UCAVs
Turkey: making cheap yet quality firearms since 1453.
@TOP_G againstGOV no, turks did not make the cannons used to breach in constantinople. it was a catholic hungarian engineer named Orban.
@@holdtheline8814 Doesn’t matter he built it for the Turks because they were the only ones with the resources and will to make it. Without them the guns wouldn’t have been made. Probably would’ve prolonged his life too thinking on it, but he lives in history.
They suck
@@holdtheline8814 Catholic treachery knows no bounds.
😂😂😂😂
Reason its usually cheap is cause we have one major government organization that deals with arms manufacturing and they are extremely strict.
Are you from turkey?
this is not a explanation for the price
Wish we had that here
@@talesdemidiofulit is
@@TheTurkicCc I am checking my book again because of you and a strict governmental production only means they can set any price they want , i've saw those shotguns irl tho and they look very solid
Turkish shotguns are very good
Like someone else said, Turkish guns are cheap to buy but good quality for the most part. I’ve had 2 sarsilmaz K2P 9mm CZ clones and I’ve loved them. Never had any jams or had any worry they would break and they’re just as accurate as any other “name brand” pistol I’ve owned.
I just got a sarsilmaz b6 last week and I love it
Sarsılmaz mean to steadfast
@@cenetruhi I didn’t know what it meant, I looked it up and that’s roughly what everyone says. They’re good guns. I understand the hesitation to buy foreign guns that are cheap but I’ve never had a problem with them. The Turks know war and I doubt they would want sub par guns.
@@bandolierboy1908 mine is the same gun with a rail for lights or lasers on the bottom so I don’t doubt you love it. Everyone I’ve let shoot mine was hesitant at first but then they put a mag through it and they changed their minds real quick. Only problem I ever had was using aftermarket tangfolio mags because the base plate was a bit too thick and it wouldn’t go quite far enough to get a good positive lock. Sanded it down a hair and it fits nicely and gives a good positive lock. Never had issues with jams, all ammo I’ve used runs great. Easy to strip and clean, accurate. Not as sexy as other CZ’s but function is my main concern over looks.
They might be cheap but for a cheap gun it’s high quality I’ve never had bad shooting from a turkey gun
turkey 🦃 gun
Inexpensive and cheap are 2 different things
2-300 dollars for a shotgun I’d say is cheap.
You’re right, but he was right to use the word “cheap” for that junk
@Trusty Patches most of the comments here are stating that the guns are cheap but good quality, what's going on?
To me, inexpensive means value for money, while cheap means low quality things
@@demporaya4852no that is NOT how that works,if you don't know what a word means...you look in a dictionary...
80 percent of shotguns in the world are made in turkey now. No matter the brand.
Miss again my guy
Our president sell our factories to foreign countries amd foreign brands this explains it
Not cheap. Inexpensive. Big difference. I have many high end guns, but I started buying Turkish guns about 6-7 years ago. And i gotta tell you, they’re just as good, and cost half as much
😂
I totally agree with you, and that’s just exactly like their drones.
For arguments sake, the TB2 drones excel the Israeli Heron drones are for (USA)$10 Milllion.
On the other hand, you have the Turkish drones, (the TB2 Bayraktar ‘Baykar’ series ) which will outperform the heroine drones by a mile stone, and a half regarding altitude stability. Automatic return to the airbase and can handle any weather conditions yeah, when it comes to pricing that is Rayleigh Heron drones are $10 million. Where is the Turkish drones TV 2 series are worth only $2 million.
There’s a damn good reason for that, and it has nothing to do purely with quality .
By Islam, you are not allowed to profit more than 100% of whatever you sell or trade.. and since Turkey, being a devoted Muslim country with a history of 32 empires till date.
Because they follow their religion, tradition, and just because we have morals and values, it doesn’t make Türkiye’s items any lesser in terms of quality nor craftsmanship.
But please feel free to google or research everything that I have just said, and feel free to prove me otherwise because you are more than welcome to if you can, and I’m saying this adamantly with such audacity because I know for a fact, this is true being a Turk myself without all the hype bullshit that goes along with generally people who try to boast about their homeland hence, I’m inviting you to a challenge to prove me otherwise.
Appreciate you for making your opinion, loud and clear to everyone globally
@@clancyrosenberg614 being a Jew of course you’re going to find this funny or laugh at it from fear there’s no other way about it. Mr Rosenberg Who seems to have an interest in Cryogenics clan..
You’re on for a debate without going into insulting each other seriously
@@H.Ibrahim1453 I agree. Look at Canik. I have several and they are excellent. The best pistols on the market today
@@H.Ibrahim1453 Calm down my turkish friend, let others think that we suck and all, while they laugh at their own pathetic lifes.
i love my turkish shotgun never had any issues with it and it was cheaper than most mag fed shotguns
Any good Turkish shotguns to recommend?
@@davidcajchun6832 i have a Landor arms AR-12 that i love but i’ve also heard the panzer arms ones are pretty good. i’m not too familiar with the bullpup type shotguns though.
@@davidcajchun6832 The SXP series of Winchester shotguns have been great to me. Cheap, smooth pumps, and no failures.
@@marksutton7240 i have a panzer arms m4 clone and i love it. I can just run slugs or whatever i want through it and not care because it was $500
@@HGRAP1 Winchester SXP extreme defender is a beast for me.
No problem using standardized parts. They work fine and that's what matters. they don't need different shaped trigger guards, different styles of safeties, etc.
There are more than 1.3 million people living in modern slavery in Turkey, which ranks fifth among 151 countries in which modern slavery is the most prevalent, according to the results of the 2023 Global Slavery Index.May 24, 2023
@@danmarcell3167 I would assume a higher number, but the conditions of firearm factories is above average for workers as far as I know.
@ the steel comes from a mine that I'm sure the condition are not that great and I wouldn't support anything coming out of anywhere that has slavery involved
@@danmarcell3167 dude I'm born and raised and still living in Turkey since '98. Modern slavery thing means working for low income considering workload I guess. Yeah that's right it sucks. But I can assure you miners and big brand factory workers making good money. I myself earn 6-7k monthly when miners and workers make way more than 15k per month. Given that minimum wage is recently went up 8.5k to 11k. I assure you anyone evolved in producing and transfer your gun makes quite good money.
@@danmarcell3167 and if you want .12 hunting tactical rifle I can suggest you Serengeti firearms. I been in their production factory and main store, spoke to designer and tested them; I can say they're awesome. Here it's around 10k lira but I don't know how much it's in US. I guess it's around 800-1200$.
Q: Why turkish shotgun are so cheap
A: its an honest price..unlike others that are so expensive just because they are "BRANDED" 😂😂😂
You sound like a Taurus owner. Turkish shotguns are shit. You get what you pay for.
Do you use the fucking hk 33 or the half price MKE T-50
Cough cough Benelli
I have a turkish hatsan 12 gauge here in the uk. It was like £200 and its awesome.
How did you get your license?
We cant have guns in Ireland because you lot invaded but ye can still have weapons. It's actually sickening
I'm actually thinking about getting one. Seems like a perfect choice for house defense: relatively reliable, semi-auto, bull-pup and mag fed.
@peaceformula5830 pure determination!
@@kavalogue you are very welcome 🇬🇧
I have shot trap for a good 3-4 years with my Dickson, made in instabul shoots just as good as a 1200$ shotgun
Yea in the sense that it fires maybe
@@tomthomas7101 its never not fired, the only problem is ejecting when its a little dirty
Do you know what kind of barrels they're comparable with? I've got a pump with a field barrel now, I want to get an 18" barrel on it and was gonna just take a swing at another Turkish made 12gauge but not sure what to go for
Also because turkey has 50% or more inflation rate.
%150+*
If I'm not mistaken, "All gun owners in Turkey have the same tastes" A Turk Said, (And for a Turkish man, Guns are Very Expensive, and the difference makes the price even higher😅
+That's why the weapons are very similar😅
Probably because the low exchange rate of Lira ?
@@pan2ajaForeign made firearms taxed heavily and gun license(to own not for carrying)cost close to the gun itself and if you dont have a profession that has risks of being attacked like jeweler,lawyer,member of a parliament its nearly impossible to get a carry license.
Turkish laws are too strict for buying a weapon. Nearly illegal i can say.
@@foxtwo6328 we need a reform but every representative has already been bought or just pvssies
Nothing wrong with that. Easy to maintain and fix.
The AK platform follows the same principle.
Exactly!
Actually, being able to interchange parts between rifles made by different companies is more like the AR platform.
@@jic1owadays the AR platform is 100% the king in that regard. Back in the day, that was what the AK platform was known for above any other rifle. The guns were reliable, the parts were often interchangeable. Plus, basic AK maintenance was taught in Soviet primary schools, so basic knowledge about the platform was universal throughout Eastern Europe and (after the fall over the Soviet Union,) would spread beyond and into popular culture, even among people who had never held a gun and never would.
Until the AR platform was able to conquer its reputation from Vietnam as being “unreliable” and “complicated,” the AK would remain in popular culture as the model of a simple, reliable rifle.
@@jic1That's exactly what the AR is great. You can buy a basic bear bones package for $800 and build up up to a good 2k package over time using available parts, or buy a high end but basic 2k package and add all the bells and whistles you want you'd otherwise have to buy another rifle for
Until commiecornia, liberal Washington and similar states stop with the state collision forcing makers to add redundant unsafe features from its newborn era ours will be prone to failure/malfunction though
@@jic1I really want a skeletonized pxode aluminum AR-10 for hunting here in Alaska because it's one of the only America rifles capable of matching and exeeding our old Remington 700s/Winchester model 70s
Light, will strongly resist corrosion in salt air, well crafted aluminum will beat walnut in cold resistance and best of all with a perfected gas piston you can get full pressure in the chamber in the mountains as you would along the ocean coast while also being able to tone it down so you can use the same rifle on small game in survivalist situations
While I don’t have any contemporary Turkish arms, from what I’ve seen they mostly are well crafted for their price point. I do have a couple of Turkish Mausers circa 1930’s that shoot very well.
A turkish guns will dominate , they are cheap and very good , one gunshop in my area sold like 1000+ and never had a single reported issue , also so the pistols
First gun I ever bought my Turkish Akkar Churchill 12 gage for 200 dollars. Great home defense shotgun
Yup me too. Runs Very smooth
good choice
Turkish hunter here, akkar is very good company they also have a pose with 3 barrells mamoth is the name I guess
I have a few Turkish and I like em so far...
“Also don’t forget to call it Türkiye, since you know our shotguns…”
that was a Turkish airlines thingy right? that was not for real?? couple of actors yelling Toorkiyeyyy? that was a great commercial
@@jefpostmus109 No💀, Turkey recently changed its name to “Türkiye”, As it was already called “Türkiye” by the Turkish people.
I bought a panzer arms semi auto 12 ga bullpup, at a gunshow, just for fun. After a short hi brass break in period, to my surprise the damned thing turned out to be excellent. Im a gunsmith, so i did a little work to it, including a buffer to keep it from beating itself up, but really its been excellent. Its smooth bore so i use it for testing exotic 12 ga ammo, but I'd trust it completely in a self defense situation.
How many shells of hi brass until you figured it was broken in enough?
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True with Canik, all the parts are interchangeable from model to model.
It may be that all the shotguns are made by the same manufacturer???In the past Mossberg,Remington and others would make guns under different names for major retailers such as JC Higgins (Mossberg)was made for Sears I believe.
I dont think so sir because all turkey trademarks fallow the trends old times ak clone or ar 15 clone (shotguns) pistol hp35 browning or browning model t2 old times beretta 92 or diffrent guns we make a clone but absolutely quality clone
But a few years we make a orginal desings meke try But a few years ago we make a orginal desings make try and usa and europa liked this new model pistol
The JC Higgins line was produced/manufactured by High Standard, Savage, Stevens and Marlin not Mossberg. But Mossberg Did make the New Haven 600 and Western Field 550, For Montgomery Ward and Western Auto So your point is valid.
Common parts across models while still maintaining functionality and serviceability is emblematic of good, efficient design.
We are essentially benefiting from their currency crisis 😂
yeah you are correct no one is mentioning that 😂
Lol you're right, crisis hit us so bad :')
Absolutely! when inflation hits, government makes every product cheaper than their dollar prices and they add extra taxes for their loss. And this makes everything cheaper for foreigners
The fact that pc parts are more expensive than any other country
(on dolar. Lets say we are paying 300 for a gpu, its most likely that gpu is 280 in west or any other country. the taxes are crazy)
I,as well, delight in Turkish shotguns .... they just have Winchester branded on them.
Dont judge a gun by its cover rather judge a gun by there actions.
I am looking forward to see some good quality Turkish shotguns in the US market like Huglu, Derya and Stoeger. All i am seeing is wierd brands that i have never heard of in Turkey.
True
I love my stoeger
@@unworthy4142I dislike my M3k. Speck of marsh water and it doesn’t want to function, paint rubs off super easy, cheap metals for things like the trigger and bolt charging handle caused them to rust like immediately, not the best customer service, can’t buy individual parts from Stoeger, and having Benelli functions and pressures on cheaper metal just doesn’t mix i find metal shaving from rubbing somewhere. My advice is to stay away from Stoeger and just get one of the other Benelli umbrella brands like Beretta or Franchi, they have Benelli quality for just a little more than what you can get a new M3k or M3500 for
Winchester is Turkish now
Stoeger is owned by Beretta. They own a lot of companies.
Benelli , FranchiA. Uberti ,Stoeger ,Sako ,Tikka ,Chapuis Armes ,Steiner ,Burris
I love Turkish shotguns 😂
I own a 22lr made in turkey. Top quality
Good to know. I noticed the price too, but didn’t know why.
Love my full-size Turkish 1911. Got my first pistol from Tisas and slapped on some Pachmayr wood/rubber grips. It's great for hiking but can be a little bulky for carrying concealed if you're not a bigger person.
Do you wear your pistols under your feet to walk?
@@carlosandleon I carry a 10mm in case of bear or other large predators 🤣
@@dethpandable7834 fair enough
The United States Military calls that Modularity.
You get what you pay for, though.
I bought a Citadel 12 ga auto for $330. It would not cycle one round and it would not fore even once. Citadel were jerks about it even though it was brand new and never fired.
I bought a Typhoon Defense F12 Puma Classic for about $900. Beautifully finished product...even the packaging is as good as it gets.
I live in a place that near of the beyşehir and all turkish made shotguns are produced in beyşehir. For years all producers used same designs and plans but every factory produces their gun themselves with different materials using this designs. However these designs are really safe and quick working.
Turkish Shotguns are cheap because of workers get paid a lot less its around like 600$ a month
True, but their cost of living is less too.
@@Wastelandman7000 lol no
@@Wastelandman7000 no its not. House prices in Turkey are more expensive.
technology prices are almost 1.5-2 times more expensive.
car prices are 3 times more expensive
Food prices in Turkey are cheaper (I don't think they are of the same quality), handwork is cheaper. rental prices are cheaper
@@Wastelandman7000nah bro cost of living is getting more expensive every day. İn two/three years LİTERALLY everything's price doubled or even tripled. İt's sad people voted who is responsible for this shit again :(
@@Wastelandman7000no my friend. Normal apartmant rent around 500 dollar😢
There’s no shame in cheap guns, most cheap guns hold up well
I can agree, my 80 year old Mosin hasn't blown my hand off yet.
@@Tookan69 i just had a prophecy that says next time you fire your Mosin it will blow your hand off.
Another consideration is that if you ever actually need to use it to protect yourself it WILL be confiscated. Personally I would rather hand over one of my garage guns or "Turkish Specials" than my better/pricier guns
Turkish Engineering 🗿🇹🇷
I use it over 25 years still like a Rock
My first gun was a Hatsan MP-TS. I love it and will never sell it.
The reason why they do this is so 1. It's cheaper to make 2. So every one of them are reliable due to each part being the same and therefore under the same improvements. Basically anything that could make apart faulty or slightly less durable can be fixed and all of the next shotguns produced with the improved parts will benefit
Nice name 👍🏻
@Hornet135 aye thank you, the F-104 you see in this is just a F-104C in the American tech tree(war thunder is the game). Btw hornet, "hornet" makes me think of the F/A-18 naval fighters. So that prob means I should be scared of ya as a fighter craft. (I usually do a character here too. Last sentence was abit of my character thing )
Turkish guy here, Turkish guns cheap and similar because they made in same place Üzümlü Konya or in Konya some where else but same factorys or same city they using similar producer, as a Turkish I prefer Hatsan, sarsılmaz,yıldız shotgun they mostly make guns for imports like USA and EU stay safe
As someone who owns 2 Turkish shotguns (Panzer arms AR 12 and EAA Girsan mc312) , I must say they are like a Toyota Corolla. Cheap but reliable.
Living the dream looking at guns jamming to gorrilaz
I have a “Webley & Smith” shotgun that I bought for around $250 that I assume was made in Turkey. Looked like the same loading gate and other parts. It’s a decent 12 gauge and I accidentally ran over it with my side by side and it still works fine
Some 3rd world countries also use Turkish parts and sometimes gun owners repair rifles with them even when they weren't actually built expecting the swap. Standardization is a wonderful thing
I once broke my pasters winchester when I walked into some brush expecting my duck, but got a angry moose. He had our churches subsistence leader fix it and I guess his Winnie was able to take parts from the same receiver I'm seeing here 😂
I love my 5+1 semi Turkish shotty lmao
Im sure a gun designed around the trigger housing does great, makes sure you know any improvement mods wont be implemented if they cant take the super critical "trigger housing" of the gun.
1. Save money buying cheaper guns
2. Use said money to buy walk-in safe
Edit: Guess who just got a nice gun cabnet
this is the best comment
1. Buy nice guns
2. Still can afford to build walk in safe
@@Guns-n-Whiskey I make a relatively low wage. I don't have the funds for that.
@@Guns-n-Whiskey Nice flex, didn’t ask tho.
Are you fabulous by any chance?
I realized that too. Plus I think some of them are based off of Remington 870's so you may be able to use some of those accessories.
Love my Turkish Panzer M4. Runs like damn tank!
I've got a cheap one and you're telling me that it has the same parts as an expensive one. Glad to hear it.
Went to a gun show in Atl last month and it was full of those Turkish shotguns
Went to a show in Memphis the month before and there were at 7,364 Tokarev shotguns besides the other Turkish manufacturers.
Good ol' Badge Engineering.
Got a turkish over under (tristar setter) for clays and waterfowl hunting and it's been absolutely great for the money.
I've got a Khan Arms 12ga, never had any issues with it, would happily own more.
one of my dads friends got an extremely nice Turkish over/under for 200 bucks. it ran flawless
I hope something that dosnt cycle operates the way its supposed to
man I love over unders
I bought a Cavalry over and under 28 g. a few yrs back. I haven't even shot it yet. Its a nice gun with beautiful scrolling of a clay pigeon in the air with trees and other intricate scrolling. The wood is walnut. Its light and a pretty shot gun but I know nothing about this brand. I paid a little over $ 600. If anyone knows anything about this company I would like to hear.
Something I only learned recently, damn near the whole world has sub contracted the manufacturing of shotguns to Turkey. If you want a shotgun that isn't, there's the Mossberg 590 and the Remington 870. That's about it.
Beretta and Benelli🤌🤌🤌🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
@@OchoCinco5K Mamma Mia!
You gotta expand your understanding of shotguns. Maybe all cheap semi auto shotguns are made in turkey, but there isn’t a single skeet or trap gun made there.
@@blank-vj1mc except for the trap and skeet guns that are lol for an example, the tristar trap shotgun
@@Reuter6795 I’m a state champion in trap and I ain’t ever seen anyone use a “Tristar” before.
You forgot to mention that big brands like Beretta spends a lot of money on marketing, and you have to pay it all in your gun.
I wish i could afford to have several shotguns side by side to notice they are made of the same parts
If you don't have a walk in gun safe, it's not that deep😂
Your idea of cheap and my idea of cheap are probably night and day 😂
No, these are like cheap cheap. About 200-400.
"your rhinestone eyes are like fractures far away" don't pretend i don't hear the background music in this short!
Well it says it right below the title too…
My first shotgun was a Turkish shotgun to duck hunt. Maybe used it 6 times and the bolt blew up on me one morning.
i love my citadel.
its a great shotgun that has given me no issues yet.
So tell me, why are they cheap?
They’re mass produced junkers compared to an Italian or American shotgun
Because they suck
@@Z_BoyPanduh nope. It's cuz mostly internal parts are made by same company. And yes, mass production but not junk most of the time
@@b..3543see the TFB TV reviews on Turkish shotguns, they’re pretty bad.
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This is also good because more demand in the future increases the likelihood of replacement and repair parts availability.
Tisas is a great Turkish company. They make EXCELLENT 1911s for crazy cheap
Can you show us your gun room?
My gun snobbery is almost exclusively shitting on Turkish shotguns
They're more reliable than people give them credit for, and far cheaper than a Mossberg 500 where I live. $1600 vs $400 at their best moment
@@Charles-A Where is a person sell a Mossberg 500 for $1600!?!... Slap that person. Hard.
@@SirMattomaton A person? Ha, I wish a person would sell it. The military industry in Colombia that's the only legal entity that can sell firearms to the public gouges prices like a mf, and that is without the permit. A glock 17 3rd gen goes for 2000 right now and the paperwork and additional fees are just ridiculous. And don't let me get started on the ammo, oh the ammo. You're allowed two 50 round boxes EVERY SIX MONTHS, and they go for around $45-50 while being the equivalent of winchester white box fmj round nose, because these MFs don't even sell hollow point ammo, and 38 special standard pressure? $170 a box of 50 because apparently it's rarer than 9mm. You might see why we see $400-600 a reasonable price for a Turkish shotgun. Oh, and we can't get any handgun caliber above the caliber .360, not that they sell us .357 mag in the first place, lol
@@Charles-A is customs for packages that are being brought into the country very effective in Colombia? Like at finding contraband?
@@Charles-A Colombiano here. Are you Colombian too? I am in the process to legalize a less lethal gun (traumática) a Turkish gun replica of the Córdova pistol, the only thing that is my reach because aso you said, guns are ridiculously expensive here.
Same is true for ARs.. A lot of the parts come from the same OEM manufacturers just different levels of QC. Very few make their parts in house, Anderson and Daniel defense being two off the top of my head lol
Learn to decipher the mfg casting marks on the uppers. Now go deflate your friend’s egos.
And they run great
Got an Akaar Churchill, also Turkish. Its a little different but its the offchild of Benelli as they own Akaar as a mother company.
200$ out the door with background, killer little unit. Never jammed and runs all but 3inch smooth and has eaten a few hundred shells by now. Sometimes 1" shells tumble and wont pop out but hey, for a budget shotgun its a winner for sure
Good option for people with less disposable income while still getting a (fairly) well built gun. The one thing I dislike about the firearm community is the elitist mentality many have, although to be fair that is a common problem in many hobbies that have a high barrier of entry.
Snobs are everywhere. With guitarists its Gibson guitars. With woodworkers its tools. (go look at the great Festool Domino debate LOL) And of course gun owners.
As someone said in another video, does it go off every time you pull the trigger? Yes? That's all that matters. Cool points don't matter when the chips are down. What matters is your tool does the job when you need it too. If you're alive because of that firearm, you made a good purchase.
I don't care if its a Turkish shotgun or a Hi-point carbine. If it kept you alive the gun did its job. If the gun did its job, no matter its shortcomings, you did good.
What is the most annoying thing for me about these snobs is that most of them have never owned any of the guns they're criticizing.
Plus they make really ridiculous statements. I've seen them say they'd rather have no gun at all than _____. Really? So you're willing to commit suicide because you're too proud to use a cheap gun? I'm going to heroically refrain from saying what I think about THAT.
I've also noted that a lot of the loudest critics are the ones who are selling something. Either training or accessories. So they take a dump on everything they're not pushing.
They very quickly loose my respect doing that.
@@Wastelandman7000I cross multiple hobby communities and I've gotta say the only subject snobs that can beat the gun snobs are the comic book snobs.
There's so much room for individual taste in both and the "elites" in both seem to hit this same point where only *their* view is the only valid take on the subject.
With guns, though, there's an issue of price point snobbery. Like a $900 red dot with a gold logo visible 40 ft away works better than a $200 budget RD or hunting with anything less than a $2,500 imported over-under is "slumming"
They don't seem to understand that after a certain point they're just paying for the brand and aesthetics, not quality
My concern would be to have a gun that doesn't fuckin blow in my hands. If it's too cheap I would be a bit concerned!
Those guns are perfectly clean. Nice.
Haven't tried a Turkish pump, but their side by sides are outstanding value for money. Even better than some older British models.
Dudes got a $3000 safe to store $1000 worth of firearms.
Turkish shotguns are very quality
Turkish here :) We always re-use parts for everything to make things easy repairable and cheap.
Toyota and Lexus use the “same parts”
So does Honda an Acura etc.
So what?
Mercedes and Renault, Mazda and Ford (believe me or not, I saw what it looked like a Ford Fiesta, but it was an effing Mazda 123🤯), BM double V and Toyota💀
Yeah, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Citadel warthog best $250 I’ve ever spent ever. Amazing semi-auto shotgun with a great build quality 💯
Huge plus when looking for parts and also intelligent of them. I've had zero fails with mine.
I have never wondered this but now it just added another useless fact to be stored in my simple mind
I thought everyone figured it out with the Turkish bullpups a couple of years ago when a dozen import companies were importing a dozen "different" shotguns that were identical except for the tacticool & molded plastic parts
Because they barely work, and if they do, you'll be lucky if it's for more than 300 rounds. They're all made with the same parts because it's basically one company making them and they slap different levels on them so that you try one cheap gun, it sucks, maybe you'll try a different brand of Turkish shotgun. Well that money goes to the same guys, and it's basically the same gun.
Well at least turkish kids don't use it for each other
Yup I have one. I wouldn't trust my life on it.
Iv never seen a bad Turkish rifle, except Chinese imitations being marketed as turkish. Are you buying discount Turkish tacticools?
@@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq I bought from a dealer, sent one for repair, and it came with another problem. The stock literally came loose while shooting at the range. The pump mechanism is so rough, it's like comparing a bike to a Lamborghini, considering my Remington.
@@kevingp12 Now that I think about it, I don't think iv ever tried a Turkish shotgun and just rifles. All my uncle's shotguns passed down were made in Belgium or the U.S
I bought my first AR and then found out about Canik and the turkish arms industry. I am now hunting for my second canik and got Turan ammo. Next is turkish shotguns. I need a third trip to Turkiye. I am in love with the place and the people. ❤. Would love a factory tour..