Mini Cooper R53 Overheating Because a PS Pump Fan
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2019
- In this week video we have my own car a 2002 mini cooper s r53 which it was overheating every time i was in traffic or stationary, knowing that, i knew the coolant system was ok regarding water pump, thermostat etc, i also knew that the cooling fan was working because i tested it about a year and half ago but it wasn't coming on for some reason.
i had to go through some diagrams and electrical testing finding the culprit which it was the power steering pump fan seized up, i was very surprise i never thought the power steering pump system could bring the cooling system down...
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Very good video. Nicely explained and shot. Really liked that Delphi. I didn't realize you could test systems like that
Thanks Jay 👍
How's she goin'? Way to go Igor, you tracked that like a boss!! Hard to believe the power steering cooling fan would cause the whole cooling system to fail, but it sure did!!! Thanks for posting and have a time at Automechanica!!!!
Grampie's Workshop Thanks Mike, they should have put them in different circuits in my opinion but as always the companies try to save money whenever they can😊... AutoMechanika was great I really enjoyed this year cheers buddy 👍👍👍
Great work. Simply great. Watched the video, then fixed my car (with same problem) within 10 minutes.
Loving it.
Bring it on!!!
Thanks mate well done I’m glad the video helps 👍👍👍
My fan did not turn so i took it to the machenic he then unpluged the fan switch and now it goes on but the water gadge indicates is up as if the car is over heating..
How do i fix the problem??
Lawrence Lekitima does the gauge go up from cold if does I would check the temperature sensor first 👍👍👍
This video is great, amazing research, great description, tremendous brother simply tremendous
Thanks buddy I appreciate it 👍👍👍
Great video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge ...👍👍👍.
Hi I am R53 owner from Korea, with your dedication I got good information, my car also has a pump pan broken so I have to buy parts soon, but thank you so much for your information
Nicely done Igor! 👍keep em coming!
Super Mario Diagnostics thanks mate I really appreciate you popping by cheers 👍👍👍
Brilliant video...thanks for sharing 👏
Good diagnostic and repair
Excellent video , I appreciate it bud great 👍
Thanks for great video!
cheers for video...love the edinburgh scottish, yeah, it's knackered, totally knackered lol...
Paul Graham lol 😆 , cheers mate grandma fault 😊🤣🤣👍👍
Brilliant video
I know this is a 4 year old video but by the sounds of it you also need a new cooling fan. most of the time the stage one fan will go out due to the resistor in the fan and then cause blown fuses or you get a cycling stage 2 fan. the reason the fuse isnt blowing anymore is due to the ps fan not drawing the extra current that the bad radiator fan needed. so in a sense it stopped overloading the system. you fixed part of the problem but not the cause of it.
Great vid dude thank you for sharing
Excellent video and diagnostics...helped me alot
Cheers pal 👍
Very good lots of good information.
Great video, thanks mate.
This is a long standing issue with the first new Minis. Went through three steering pumps on our 05. Small cooling fan exposed to mud and snow. After market cowling was one solution.
Actually, the car never did reached the Automechanika...
I had to lift you half of the trip....😋
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Nice video, well explained...
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LM Auto Repairs true 😊🤣🤣🤣, cheers Luis 👍👍👍
Thanks for share.
First time that I hear of a power steering fan 😳. Hopefully not too many cars with this design. Seems to be more hassle than is worth it. Good job there
Lucian Razec Yeap mate Mini’s are the only vehicle I know that have a PS pump fan, not a very good location to have a fan for sure cheers 👍👍👍
Nice troubleshooting!
Thanks mate, not too bad in the end but It had me running around like a headless chicken for a while, I blame the diagrams 😊🤣👍
Great job Igor! I've never heard of a power steering fan lol and what a crappy place to locate it! Almost like it was an afterthought 😳😂😂😂. Looks in great shape for an 02 though! 👍
Thanks Niamh, it’s literally the only car I know with a PS pump fan too 😝, they definitely didn’t think through this first fan design it did get better in later models... she’s looks nice but it needs some TLC for sure 😊😉👍👍
I'm going to try this!!
Great video buddy
nuffz qualters Thanks Mate much appreciated sir 😊👍👍👍
I have the same problem with my fan making the car like it's about to take off when the engine gets hot! Will check the power steering fan for sure, great video!
Did it work?
@@Saddexx I did a bunch of work on the car, including this. What actually fixed it, I believe, is replacing the low speed fan resistor. Common issue, easy fix!
@@leefrith359 A couple of days ago, I checked the fuse box to find that the fan 2nd-speed's fuse was dead. I was happy and I replaced the fuse and tried to park the car with the engine on. At first everything was normal until I turned the A/C on then it started to heat up so I quickly turned the engine off... I've an appointment on Monday at Mini.... I hope it's not serious..
@@leefrith359did you have to remove the radiator completely or did you just have to put it in front end service mode and slide the radiator forward a bit?
@@JustinMoseley-w4z front end mode and remove the shroud, rad can stay on car
Just remember everyone, short to the power side of the syst blows fuses, a short to the ground will overheat the ground wire and can either weld itself until it makes a better ground or the wire won't hold up from the heat and break then seperate from its connection.
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Your video help me to save some money thanks
You're just like your car. Super cute 😘😘😘😘
thanks for the information
mr big money it’s a pleasure bud 👍👍👍
@@CarsExposed I'm trying to figure out why my fan doesn't kick on high mode... I've checked the fuse, I've swapped the relays over, new t-stat housing with sensors, and still nothing! 😕 any ideas?
mr big money is your setup the same as mine you can see it here czcams.com/video/HDbXBIcCEQU/video.html
@@CarsExposed 2008 S... they all seem to be the same when it comes to electronics, but my fan kicks on low speed when it should, but when it gets hot, I got nothing at all... I guess I'll pull it apart and get a deeper look! Thanks for your reply and information
That's a rough place to put a PS fan.....hopefully there's an updated part for the replacement with some sort of shield to protect it.... Nice fix Igor !!!
Johnny's Speed Shop hello mate I missing your videos what’s going on ...
Not the best place indeed the PS fan literally gets hit by everything from the road specially when driving because the design , they did modified the shielding in later vehicles with cutouts facing the rear of the car which helped a lot... cheers mate 👍👍👍
Nice. I have the Bentley Diagnosis Book...its helped. A lot
Adding the Pop Can Air scoop to Pump Fan now😉
Electricity is not my cup of tea, nice video good job
Dan Marcu I know the feeling Electrical problem can be be quite difficult, diagrams help for sure... thanks mate I appreciate it 👍👍👍
THAT WAS CLEVER GOING TO CHEAK IF THAT'S MY FOULT. THX FOR THE VIDEO. IT WAS NOT it's THE FUN ITS NOT KICKING TO BRING DOWN THE HEAT.
If the fuses are good it’s probably the fan try to power it up 👍👍
@@CarsExposed I DID NOTHING. NEED A NEW FUN OR A 0.3 ohm 100W resistor THATS ON THE SIDE OF THE FUN BUT ITS BIG JOB. THE COST FROM EBAY £7.99
great vid , whats your diagnostic tool ? cheers ..
That power steering pump fan wasn’t on the really early models. They only started putting them on when they realised the pump was overheating. So no wonder it’s wired up a bit wonky lol
I have a 2006 mini cooper s . The cooling fan resistor responsible for the low speed fan operation went bad just over the warranty. Consequently, the cooling fan ran at high speed constantly. The dealer( stealer) wanted over 600 US dollars to change out the whole fans assembly because the resistor was in the fan shroud. I call them stealership because I have another story about a flood damaged Jeep Rubicon they almost sold me. (I was very stupid at the time)
I fixed this so long ago I forgot exactly where I put another resistor in the control circuit which has been working for now 11 yrs. There is a relay that send the electricity to the circuit that feeds the fan resistor.
Given that hint and search google for the fan resistor and you will find the post where I found the fix for it by another guy.
Yeah dealerships (stealerships) 😊 can be a hit or a miss even here in UK , I’ll try to google it if you have a link just leave it here 👍
Thanks You lo que quiero saber si al. Abrir contacto ya se activa el ventilador o ala hora que la elice del radiador que enfria el refrigerante recien activa el ventilador
Great job mate without electric diagram it's very hard to resume the problem witch the important of electric diagram in car diagnostic
witch program do you used Haynes Pro is very good program
عبدالله العريبي absolutely mate I have to agree without diagrams I would never find this one, I use a mix of diagrams but here in UK information is so limited that you have to think outside the box every time 😊, I have cancelled all my subscription lately I would like to try Haynes pro to see what’s like cheers 👍👍👍
I don't even have a Mini and I really enjoyed this video. What was the diagnostic device you used?
Thanks mate I was using a Delphi DS150
Hi, great video! I think I have a similar problem with my R53. I just removed my PS fan and it is seized like yours and the 5 amp fuse was blown. I have tested the fan at both speed using a battery direct to fan plugs and that work fine. However, unlike in your video, I cannot get the fans to run with the PS fan unplugged. I suppose this creates an open circuit? How were you able to run the fans like that?
Shuttersound thanks mate, I’ve used my scan tool a Delphi DS150 to command it on by active test ...
Hello, I have a question. where did you get that tool (OBD) to diagnose your car?
First off, FYI, There is a Power Steering Recall. I just had mine serviced last year in June 2021 and by July I was sitting in traffic also and my car overheated. They told me before servicing it that the power steering fan and the engine fan are both on the same fuse so if the fuse goes, they both malfunction. Well I checked all the fuses and none of them were blown. So I took the car back and they said if it had to do with what they did for the recall, they would warranty their work well, of course, it was something else ( they say). Now I have no power steering at all and they say it is a 16amp fuse that is in the fusebox located under the engine fusebox and apparently it's Not that fuse that runs both the fans. So I'm on here doing research and have found 2 vids that show that particular fuse box but no 16 amp fuse in it. It shows 2-50 amps, 1-100 amp and a 05 amp. I'm so confused as to where this fuse goes. Can anyone Help Me?! The fuse only cost around $10 but they want $400 plus to change it! SOS!!!
Any luck?
Great diagnostic investigation! But what I REALLY want to know is where you got that Delphi DS150E and how much you paid for it! :)
On eBay £250 at the time 👍
Hello. What kind interfejs are You using On the video? Can You give the link?
I'm pretty sure this is happening to my car right at this minute when I had to pull over trying to drive back home
I got over heating as well. The notice realised 6 months ago.
Madness motorwork sell's a shield for the power steering fan.
Can you show me the temperature senzor where is placed?
Hi Igor found problem cheap fix I suspected the head gasket had gone turned out to be thermostat housing cap wasn’t sealing properly so the system couldn’t pressurise explaining the Cooling fan not cutting in ended up being a £12 fix .
Excellent find Vince thanks for letting me know 👍👍👍
you have to test relays with live feed to see if it activates and test contacts under load to make sure contacts not burnt ........
leso204 thanks mate 👍👍👍
Is the Power steering pump fan should be running all the time whenever the ignition key is ON? or what
Great video - what is the diagnostic system you are using?
Thanks,... it’s the Delphi ds150
When you said (test the fuses with a multimeter,) were you planning on ohming them?
vladimir volkhov can you point out the minute please
if you turn your ac on the fan should turn on even if there ps fan is not working
No A/c in this vehicle 👍
Hi Igor was your expansion tank filling up and bubbling because the fan wasn’t working basically if you sat with engine running after about 10 15 minutes coolant becoming hot
Vince Pusey it probably was but my expansion tank is impossible to see through and I didn’t dare to open it 😊👍👍👍
Did you figure out why it was bubbling up?
@@MrMouze-os6ks yes believe it or not it was the thermostat housing cap not sealing and letting air into the system.
@@vincepusey2157 damn, I’ve took off my whole front bumper and radiator thinking it was that. Least I found out the low speed fan switch resister that’s green is pretty ugly. Replacing that and the coolant reservoir next weekend. My thermostat is probably stuck like yours was too so thank you for replying!!!
great video! What OBD program are you using on your ipad? link where to buy software? TIA
Anthony Y thanks mate ... I’ve used The Delphi ds150, the tablet is a Microsoft’s one... you can buy the VCI and Cd software and install to a PC or Microsoft based tablet ...
Here is a link to one on amazon amzn.to/3aZUVkT 👍👍👍
I’m going to try changing my power steering pump also. My car is still overheating after I change radiator and thermostat. The exhaust headers glow super red also from this over heating within 5mins of the car started. If you have any other suggestions of what could be happening I would appreciate it. I have a 2003 Cooper s
Stage 1 and 2 thermostat sensor maybe.
My heater matrix went.. then the main Rad, and turned out to be the stage 1 and 2 sensor. A smoke fix and swap.
Hope you got it all sorted.
Catalytic converter probably stopping exhaust flow..get it checked at a shop with infrared equipment..good luck..
I have the same problem but I have watched your video over and over again but I still don't know from where to start... my fan kicks in now and again but the temp is always in the middle. When I stand in traffic for a long then I get back pressure or I should say coolant coming out the expansion tank but yet the engine temperature is in the middle . ... did u change that small fan under the car ? I check my fuse nd its not blown
Would you have a problem with the reservoir/cap itself?
Having problems with 2003 mini,pas intermittently goes hard,replace second hand pas motor,Vehicle ran good for 2 days. Now the pas has gone hard once again.I have checked fuses,All good,Generall inspection of wiring no chaffs,No worn ,bent ,Oxides in pin plugs?
Next time it stops working check if you have input voltage and signals... I would guess it’s more than likely to be a module problem if you changed the pump and still plays up
You would have this problem with a classic mini mechanical fan 😁
I have a problem with my r50 and it’s coolant fan can you post a vid to show how to test it on car or off thanks I’ve checked all fuses and are ok I’m frightened I’ll bake my engine
darren atkinson you are in luck mate I’ve just ordered a fan because mine packed up I’ll be doing a video this week
Cars Exposed thanks for the quick response 😉
You got Delphi on your tablet , how you get that on
its a microsoft based tablet
What reader do you use?!
I use the Delphi ds150
Whats your setup on the delphi please
How do I get it
It’s a DS150 you can find the cd program and obd2 interface on ebay for around £50
@@CarsExposed is there an annual subscription or particular tablet/laptop
I've seen dedicated scan tools that go into 100' of pounds
mohammed ali if you buy the proper Delphi tool you can pay for a subscription and get updates, mine tool and all the others on eBay they are clones so no updates if there is a new version you just buy another cd ...
,, hello mate great video I'm having the same problem on my 2002 Mini Cooper automatic 1.6 but I found the issue is it keeps blowing 50 amp fuse so my fan is not working do you have any ideas what can be doing this plus my power steering fan looks ok it's turning but I've not seen a turn on do you know how to do this thank you
Have you checked fuses ?
Yes m8 it's all done now got a new fan works perfectly but having problems when you Accelerate the car pulls a y ideas what it can be
William Lunt I would check the wishbone bushing for any play 👍👍👍
@@CarsExposed thanks m8 will do
Time to spend more money on the Mini. :-(
Ozzstar Yeap 3 things that needs to be done urgently: new clutch , new heater core and now cooling fan and I keep delaying it... 😊👍👍👍 oh I nearly forgot ps pump fan 🤣🤣🤣
@@CarsExposed the clutch is small on a Mini and a big PIA to change!
Ozzstar I have to agree a PIA indeed 😊😄, the whole front end comes apart I’ve been there quite few times 🙁🥵😉, ill probably wait and replace clutch and cooling fun together 👍👍👍👍
You dont neetvtake that 50fuse you can see just like that
Dat cooling fan is garbage bin dinner
I have to agree 😊👍
Quer comprar o meu tem o mesmo problema já estou para tocar fogo nele
É fácil pra arrumar 👍😉
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Wtf ears you talking about
Absolutely crap design from mini.
Stage 1 and 2 thermostat sensor. .on the pipe maybe.