Raymond Tallis - What is Truth?
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- Defining ‘truth’ is an ancient question that in the age of science should find resolution and agreement. But this is not so. Even today, truth remains elusive. Can truth be objective or must it always be relative? Is truth the exclusive domain of science? Or can different truths be apprehended beyond science? What does philosophy say about truth?
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Raymond C. Tallis is a a retired physician and neuroscientist from Great Britain. His resume boasts titles like philosopher, poet and novelist. He is also a member of the Academy of Medical Sciences, the Royal College of Physicians and Royal Society of Arts.
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RLK gives the impression as the student learning from professor Tallis. Thank you Mr. Kuhn for another excellent exploration of the journey towards enlightenment.
It is an objective truth that this conversation gave me a headache.
love how dr. kuhn engages and challenges his interviewees. really just an excellent series
All truths are but half truths. All paradoxes may be reconciled - The Kybalion
“Most of our experiences are not illusory”…is actually a piece of pragmatic truth. But there’s no guarantee we evolved to see/perceive reality as it is. Hence, the accusation on the relativists is indeed a “cheap shot” as Robert suggested.
All you thinkers are trapped in the net of your own thinking and don’t seem to realize it. You’ll never be finished
Some of us realise it.
So, you are not even trying to find out what truth is?
Truth is our best analysis of the reality we perceive, biased by personal cultural, religious and cognitive limitations.
That would be my definition
Then no one can ever be wrong about anything if they just do their best.
@@bozo5632I don't understand how you made that connection from his comment... lol
@@niftyszn9469 I don't see what's the hard part.
I believe the truth is eternal and can never be changed. Truth is the bedrock of everything. If God exists then not even he can separate himself from the truth.
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If course guys ca separate himself from the truth. He put himself in the bible, quran and Bhagavad-Gita. He also has angels in your head.
Very important discussion - Bravo
Wow, I just watch Mateo's video on coherence. This is similar except for the absence of mentioning the difference between sound and vibration when atoms move. Truth in the end only matters to the person looking at its own patterns, as long as the intention is to always try and understand why those patterns or tools are put together.
Truth requires few words.
How is that even true 😂😂😂
Os else…truth might be that which words can’t grasp
Definitely fewer than what you've uttered.
Funny this should pop up today, I have been thinking about making a video about truth. I should get it done somehow.
We'd be really interested in your perspective. Did you manage to grab it by the balls?
Truth is: the path, the order, the logic, the Way, the pattern, the consistency, and the indefinite procedure.
The best answer I know of is Alfred Tarski's definition of truth. The man was frighteningly intelligent.
What is it
Tell us!
@whitejohhnmjerkins It's called the semantic theory of truth which applies to formal languages.
Truth is an accurate description of the level of reality that it abides by.
Truth is shaded by the observer. There are concrete facts that are boiled down and also have nuance.
I tend to subscribe to the notion that truth is tethered to fact, and reality, and Truth never changes.
Truth is like time and space. Subjective and relative
@@oliviamaynard9372
Truth exists with me, or without me, it is not subjective.
I believe mathematics is truth, as well,
I believe mathematics was evident before man understood it.
I believe love is truth it is not subjective or relative to time and space
@@Dan0948 your beliefs are yours. They aren't anyone else's and they aren't truth. They may have some truthiness, but they aren't true
@@oliviamaynard9372
Mathematics was first observed studying nature, and Equitable Commerce and trade, and the perceived movement of the stars.
@@oliviamaynard9372
And you can't prove that math is subjective or truth being relative or subjective
Most Americans are invariably attracted to pragmatism, and ofcourse there is the political underpinning to it as well. But Kuhn really sounds ignorant when he says that the logical inconsistency of the relativist position is just a cheap shot (ofcourse that is precisely what a pragmatist would say). Maybe he still believes that Humean empiricism is an unsurpassable horizon of all philosophical positions (which would then make him an idealist, as pointed out by the realist philosophers)
I love being an instrumentalist and not worrying about, say, having to prove or demonstrate correspondence, a devilishly impossible enterprise. Reliable results suit me fine. There is little value in seeking absolute truth in a universe that is defined by change. The best you get is things that are so basic that they can be considered universals, or "laws", but our deepest understanding of them is, well, always subject to change.
Long version:
Reality is mind dependent, yes, but the physical and the conceptual remain separate nonetheless. We may only "know" the models, but they are drawn from objectively repeatable experiments. The double slit conundrum is better explained by the limited bits of information in simple particles (limited degrees of freedom to express) than it is on a fundamental reliance on consciousness to collapse wave functions. Anyway...
In all this debate, there are really three main observable sources for truth humans use, with caveats. To wit: science via observation, philosophy via reasoning, and faith via revelation. (Plus art (concept made real, real made conceptual) and mathematics, which can derive potential new observations from the body of experimental observations.) Each of us will have their preferred take on each of these.
But the kicker is that the earliest form of what was considered "truth", religious canon, has sort of tilted the game overmuch toward absolutism across the board, even in early science. That is, by defining truth as absolute and unchanging in time or circumstance, it led early philosophers to then seek their own valid truth statements (a la Aristotle) instead of relying on observation and on counting (probability), which is what good science does as practiced today. Contradiction, as in "this statement is false", is a human construct and as such automatically pertains to conceptual reality, which is unconstrained, unlike physical reality, so no big deal. What about QM, one might say. One might, but since we don't care anymore about absolutes, probability is the go-to substitute.
In science, we do not seek to make truth statements, only to construct valid and useful descriptions and models. To a philosopher, finding a black swan ruins the truth statement about all swans being white. But to a scientist, the first black swan is merely added to the database; " swans white, swan black". No "truth" is overthrown.
We can say children are extremely selfish. We can say children embrace their true selves. As we grow older we are required to embrace more responsibilities, perhaps deny our true self to serve, make money, take care of others to the point that we deny the embrace of our true selves. We hold these truths yo be self evident Truth is a feeling and a deeper intuition.
Truth is ultimate reality wich people are trying to grasp through own subjective fuzzy lense.
What it comes down to is that you need to have a overview of everything..something that we do not have.. Without it you have no direct access to truth with there being strong believers in all sorts of truths.
I don't think your statement is true, as we still can have access to some truth.
@@IronFreee Right. But what is that truth worth when you are not being able to put it in perspective? At best one deals with little chunks of truths without having a overview in that case.
Love, The innate knowledge; not two, is a concept encroaching towards Truth…
I wish Robert would interview some homeless people on the streets of LA.
We tend to rely on people within the general scientific community for solutions to our great problems. Spreading out our great problems to the wider community may yield some interesting answers.
Those homeless people won't make him as much money.
What is truth?
Correspondence theory of truth? Coherence theory of truth? The fact that there have been many Conceptions of truth might be is pragmatically complex and completely understood through the experience of information-processing perspectives wrought by evolutionary design. Are Scientific truths different from historical or philosophical truths only in methodology & types of inquiry?
There is no ultimate objective reality, and there are layers of truths, but everything is build from building blocks that cant be understood and what comes out of them is multiple realities not only our own, that is the final truth about truth.
So,what is it?
Who is being interviewed? Sound familiar…,
as human brain obtains knowledge of the parts of truth in nature; can also obtain knowledge of the whole truth when it is experienced?
Knowledge resides in the mind, not in the brain. The brain is for something else lol
Good arguments! But I think "truths about the geography of England" etc. are bit more slippery than Tallis makes out. If we give, say, a distance between Manchester and London, we've got to decide how to define the start and end points, the level of accuracy we're going to specify to, how we're going to measure it and how that method is verified, etc etc. There just isn't a single objective answer. There is a possible range of approximate answers in different forms with caveats and justifications, which will satisfy the mixture of correspondence, coherence and pragmatic conditions discussed.
London and Manchester are two places in your mind. How can you define the start and end point between two places in your mind?
It suffices to have ideas that we can usually successfully bet on, even if we can't be 100% certain they're true.
For example, I bet that this comment will become readable to other CZcams users after I tap the Send icon. I wouldn't have bothered to write it if I lacked confidence that technologies based on science work reliably. The scientific method is a way to gain confidence about what will happen.
Yes, but you wouldn't have expected this comment to say nothing. Case in which your certainty of action has offered you little to nothing to gain.
@@florinmoldovanu : Your point is unclear. By "this comment" did you mean my initial comment or your reply? Why do you suggest "this comment" said nothing, or might say nothing? And how does your concern about "gain by posting a comment" relate to what my comment is about?
Messi being the goat, that is truth.
Who is the "we" who sees through the brain? It's not that a materialist can't answer this question but only that they WILL NOT answer it. They can only ask an endless string of question for which there are no meaningful answers, just more questions. This show is a demonstration.
We can't KNOW anything because our minds are split. We perceive the world through a subject object dualism rather than through the wholeness of knowledge. What we've accepted into our minds as true (believe), is projected out and THEN perceived. Truth is beyond perception and requires the pruification and healing of the mind before Truth can be known again.
4:27 "it's up to you to show me why". Grow up Robert!
No, that's not how this actually works. That's how you want it to work.
I can't prove to you that I love my mother - i can not show you this. You will only to a degree know of what it is or means to love a mother when you do yourself, love your mother.
It's awful when people say bullshit like "if there is a God, it's up to him to reveal himself or somebody else to do it for me".
Let's face it, there's only ever been a select few who are World-class and Champions.
You can show that your mother loves you. All someone has to see is how she behaves toward you and they can conclude weather she loves you or not.
The reasons is that their are only a select few world class champions is most people are lazy and do not want to put in world class work.
God want the relationship so it is up to God to reveal itself in a way a person will accept. For example say a man approaches a woman and he smells, his breath stinks, his clothes are dirty and is poorly groomed. He will get rejected. Him going on the internet complaining that he is a nice guy and a woman rejected him won’t accompany anything. In order to get the response he want he has to study the woman he likes and tailor his presentation to what she likes.
If God is not presenting himself / herself or itself in a way that a person would accept then it’s God’s fault for being rejected and regulated to not being real.
Robert is right , The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove. The inability, or disinclination, to disprove a claim does not render that claim valid, nor give it any credence whatsoever. However it is important to note that we can never be certain of anything, and so we must assign value to any claim based on the available evidence, and to dismiss something on the basis that it hasn't been proven beyond all doubt is also fallacious reasoning.
@@samnavona God isn't a claim; it's a fact.
Nor is how this works; nor a law, criterion, standard. Robert isn't the authority, his show is controlled opposition and underhanded disinformation.
If you want to play that game, which you all are doing, you're evil until you show us why you're actually good.
What we know is that you're ignorant, a consumer, self centered, more of a problem than an aid, a materialist, narcissistic, and when resource become scarce you will hurt others so to get what you want. And because you're of no true benefit as of now to mankind you're a threat.
@@kos-mos1127 And here we have the proof of double standards from the Sophist himself.
Those who claim there is God must be objective; however to prove love is ok to be only assumed because everybody has experienced it to some extent or degree.
Going by your standards, events in movies at the theaters are really because we can see it, and feel it, right?
You might want to take a time out and rethink your position.
Some propositions are true.
That is the truth.
Is truth divisible into coherent truths and conscious truths? If so how does one affect the other? Through meaning or through objects?
We can see stars with the naked eye, but because of telescopes and radio astronomy some of those stars, the moving ones, have come to be seen as planets. Others are said to be galaxies, quasars, and nebulae. Not only objects but objects in the past, not as they are now.
I can still only see lights at night with my naked eye. Through coherent truth reinforced by conscious truth those lights have have come to "mean" something other than mere points of light. How and why?
My personal consciousness has not changed, I can still only see so far, but my perspective of what I sense is altered. Whether it is "fundamentally" altered or only coherently altered is another thing altogether.
I submit that my personal consciousness has not "fundamentally" changed, it has only self-consciously changed. I cannot see planets and galaxies with my unaided eyes, I can only see them with my third eye. To be able to see planets and galaxies could only be accomplished by evolutionary means. Personal consciousness does not evolve by coherency only by genes. Are there animal genes that allow other animals to perceive planets and stars? If so how can they be safely grafted onto human dna, and would that be advantageous or disadvantageous?
Your not seeing stars and galaxies in the sky, you're only seeing what they told you to see.
Two known standards and we can be fairly objective. Unfortunately reactiveness treats subjective and objective and vice versa with me.
Certian parts of science are not known standards. Out language itself is just tuned into bring an approximation it also has paradoxical results
Explore death while alive to experience the truth...it's as simple as that
How do you know that?
@@florinmoldovanu i have explored that there is no death..the body is just machine that you let go during death..
@@udaykumar-lv4xo you let go of the body? you sound suicidal. You should seek help.
You make it what you want. It's a cloud, it's a storm. Or is it intelligence? Whatever that means.
We can see through, doings, and statements. First " nosce te ibsum"
first should actually be 'proximus sum' because what you're really saying is 'nosce animum tuum'
does knowledge of either the parts or the whole of truth require awareness of that knowledge?
I think that, by definition, it does.
Is knowledge required?
I’m really a pragmatist when it comes to truth.
I will tentatively label something as “true” if I can make consistent predictions about it.
Like I think evolution (as a concept) is a true theory since it makes a lot of predictions that are fulfilled. Of course, our current understanding is false, but it’s more “true” than it was 100 years ago. Science is neat!
Truth as a stand alone is unknowable and will never be meaningful to humans, that I can imagine.
Truth to me seems to only be meaningful in comparison to what is false or less-true.
If truth is meaningful then it is false. If it is devoid of meaning it is also false. What are you left with?
One thing they both neglect to cover is that truths about measurement, say the diameter of the sun, are only approximate truths. Measurements are always subject to error, and I’d call that an absolute truth. 😉
Pi can be measured exactly, it just takes forever.
@@bozo5632 good one! However Pi doesn’t account for irregularities.
truth has separate reason than survival?
Survival of whom?
Fact versus truth?
Can we be certain of anything? If not there is no truth.
Certainly doesn't mean truth
Yes, certainty is death. But death truth?.. Let me check with my dog. He said yes 😁
The Theosophists say..."There is no religion higher than truth..."
Let's get closer to the truth of "Closer to the Truth". Kuhn never had any legitimate intention of ever getting "Closer To the Truth". It only aired for 2 seasons on PBS, in 2000 & 2003, then became "Closer to Truth: Cosmos. Consciousness, God, launched in 2008, with 20 full seasons to date, and monetized on CZcams with a further 4000 episodes. If Kuhn was serious about getting closer to the truth he would admit the truth that after thousands of episodes he's no closer to the truth than he was at the outset. The only real truth is that his bank account has grown as a result of the gullible viewers. Can one expect a man who stated that China's leadership is not authoritarian to actually care about truth?
It's seems you don't understand the content of his channel.
It seems that you don't understand economics.
Robert should ask Marjorie Greene Taylor what the truth is. Wow! Would that be crazy.
I'd prefer George Santos to answer that!🤣
The guest is making a good point! Read Rumi's ✍ writings.
I believe in truths but truths don't believe in me.
Closer to what
Best summed up in Jesus Christ Superstar between Pilate and Jesus.
Jesus: I look for truth and find that I get damned.
Pilate: But what is truth? Is truth a changing law? We both have truths are mine the same as yours?
There are objective truths which are the same for everyone.
@@rl7012 True. I prefer to call them observational truths that everyone can agree with based on inescapable facts.
For example. The majority of people living will not live to be 100.
Oahu is an island.
All mammals have lungs, etc.
But when it comes to things like sin, moral behavior, beauty, the best way to raise children, etc. Each individual has their own truth.
@@FishHeadSalad Even in beauty, what people find beautiful is often universally shared. For example beautiful landscapes and wonders of nature, nobody could deny the beauty in that. Even in moral behaviour there is a universal 'do as you wish to be done to' type of moral code that most humans have. Even in child raising, every parent wants the best for their child. What is 'best' is obviously debatable though.
You can have your own truth but if your own truth clashes with the facts and evidence then the 'own truth' isn't always true either. It could be delusion.
@@FishHeadSalad 👍
@@rl7012 wouldn't that in itself be an objective truth that applies to everyone?
Truth is just a human concept. In reality everything is true and false at the same time.
Yes and no
What reality?
Pilate asked the lord Jesus ? What is truth ?
The real truth is beyond our understanding.. That means its universal and eternal, real truth never changed.
"He who does not want to know the truth hides the truth, but the truth always reveals itself and shines."
people live on earth, they divide truth into two parts, one is called relative truth and the other is called absolute truth.
This kind of reality is an idea that contains 50% reality. Because this is the only reality we understand in this universe. When we come to this kind of reality, it changes with the advent of new technology and new findings and research results. But there is only one reality, and that reality was before the creation of the world. The earthly reality relative and absolute truth are measured by this objectively. "Truth" but the real truth is always the same and tested.
Psalm 12:6 The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
When you know the truth, the truth sets you free. This means that the truth will set you free from false ideas and false information about everything. In this world and beyond the grave. In general, the truth will help you avoid confusion.
Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice. John 18:37 KJV
lets see this example
Pilate saith unto the lord , What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all. “What is the truth?” retorted Pilate. With this he went out again to the Jews gathered there and said, “I find no basis for a charge against him.”
Pilate did not find any wrong in Jesus, then set him free.
and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:32
to be free, must first know the truth , then the truth will set you free.
Because of "lack of truth," people do not live forever after death.
Truth is deeply connected to all life on planet Earth and beyond. A man lives forever when he knows only what is true.
To know Jesus Christ is eternal life. John 17:3
the lord has come to planet Earth to reveal the truth.
This means that only the truth can give you eternal life.
But before that, the truth must see you free; If you don't truly free yourself by truth, you will never be free.
Therefore truth means man. A person who wants to know the truth must know that truth
that truth is a a person.
Pilate found no fault with Jesus because Christ is truth. People are set free when they find the truth that we know they are innocent. God gives people eternal life because they know the truth.
Eternal Life Jesus Christ. If you do not know Christ, you do not have eternal life. Because eternal life is hidden in Christ.
Those objective truths mentioned are still subjective/relative.
The advaita vedanta or conclusion of the buddha is is absolute.
There's a bus tomorrow morning at 6am from your local station that can take you to the absolute. It's not far, just over the horizon.
There is no absolute truth, only operational truths.
There are absolute truths.
Jump out of a tenth story window stark naked and afterwards let me know how you got on.
@@jeremymanson1781 that also is an operational truth, and because of that i would not jump out of the building. Think a little deeper, then you will understand what I meant by operational truths. We all live on a plane of reality that works perfectly for us, but no aspect of it is absolutely true.
Sticking the word 'operational' in front of the word truth 🤔 ..well its clearly 'operationally' true that its a help to you. To me? Not so much.
@@jeremymanson1781 I shall Illustrate: There is an object on a table, say a glass of water. I look at it as I am thirsty. But is it really a glass of water? I dare say no. Because the glass and the water in it are reducible to small fragments and ultimately to fundamental particles. It is a glass of water only to us, linguistically and with respect to its utilitarian aspect of being able to quench our thirst on this plane of reality, and thus it is merely an operational truth to say that "there is a glass of water on the table". I dont know if this illustration drives home my point. It is well past midnight and I am sleepy, lol. Thanks for challenging me though.
3:18 Is the great revolving door flaw; the standpoint of the 'empiricists nominal pragmatic' approach which is faulty within itself due to no proper analyst of it's own objective relation or its 'means'. Merely & always arbitrary at its core. This is the hardcore 'materialists' errrrrrring; in other words: "the finite being is the measure of all" and the inane religion of "if I can not touch it it doesn't exist" bandwagon.
Nominal -- existing in name only. The definitions and titles we give to 'things' are only from the 'things' attributes or effects and not based on the principle or archtype itself. Merely do we see and 'know of' things from its effect. Teleology is only part of the truth and one based on the object - subject relation, which is already limited and obscured.
Empiricist -- perhaps information rather than Knowledge, but this is simply preposterous. Your sensual belief in 'object-subject'experience will act as an ancor slowing your progress down.
Pragmatic -- ignoring the Faculties of Soul; the Intellect and Reason. You know only what's 'hot' from that which is 'cold; you know what's cold from only that which is hot. Do you actually know what 'hot' or the quality of 'hotness' is in itself? Okay, perhaps not, but let's not play pretend here and realize via negativa. Affirmations are good, and one must realize it's only seeming "true" to your relation, or object-subject.
^ is materialism. Maybe you're OK with being stuck at the bus stop?
Soyouknow, there's no bus coming for you.
Folks, do your own research and do not let others research condition you, appreciate facts and confront where you've made mistakes, but don't follow the zombies of today's "academics."
There is something very miraculous going on and there is a God. Don't let the left brain hemisphere beat you.
There is nothing miraculous going on or God. Materialism gets results and can be applied to engineering. God just explains thing anyway and is useless as a practical application. If God was useful in understanding the world around us I would accept the concept but it is not. The Middle East has a theocratic state and hey are stuck in the Bronze Age with a stagnate civilization. If that is where belief in God leads I want no part of it.
truth contains all the parts that are known, but is more than the parts known?
@ James Ruscheinski. But isn't that a distinction between truth and knowledge?
Nope, that's just hope.
Truth is relative.
If it is, your statement is irrelevant. If it isn’t, your statement is false.
Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. I could have not done it the other way. You need faith and seek thyself spiritually. Forget mortality and listen to what I say.
But those who do not believed that I AM he and he is me are condemned already because you created a division when I came for peace, unity and oneness.
is the snow white at night
human brain focus on parts of truth? is there a single Truth as foundation of all the parts?
There is no single truth because it corresponds to reality.
The questioner asking, "What is Truth?" - must be the "truth". Otherwise, the question itself, the questioner himself and the answer I'm writing - all are merely untruth or illusion.
A question is neither true nor false. A question is just a question.
"obmywam dłonie" hehehe Prawda ... co możemy zmysłami objąć, stanowiące nie podważające dowody na jej istnienie ... logika ... Prawda złożona ... bo jej czysta naturę wprowadzono do ogólników używanych na co dzień, spłaszczając, zniekształcając jej znaczenie ... Pan Profesor widzi perspektywę ... Prawdy według własnej świadomości ... Prawda ... jest w ustach i w sercach ... media hehehe nie odpowiednio dobrany przykład dla Prawdy ... medialne ośrodki odpowiadają za kreowanie "zleconej" Prawdy ... Prawda taka, ze spotkania... krótkie nagrania... rozmowy, przeprowadzone rozważania są pięknym olśnieniem, radością dla uzmysłowienia, iż wciąż z niewielu spraw otaczających nie zdajemy lub pragniemy rozeznania, a one wszystkie powodują ... rozmyślania, zastanowienia, pytania ... świadomość Prawdy wzrasta ... dla dnia mojego ... Dziękuję... z wielką przyjemnością zasiądę do kolejnego tematu niesamowitego... unoszącego myśli tam i z powrotem.
Saint Marta ... She was a mystic. Hello. Can you tell me more about the surroundings of matter?
@@missh1774 Hmm... skoro na wstępie próbujesz Pan lub Pani wprowadzić innych Człowieków we własne paralele ... formułując dodatkowo "była" ... stawiasz własną tezę ... nie chcąc prawdziwie abym o materii tajemnej mówi ... na własny sposób "widzenia" ... każde twe ułożone zdania są "kreowaniem" rzeczywistości, złośliwości ... medialnego zazdrosnego ogona hehehe
@@missh1774 dziś 23.02.2023 suma daje 5 ... łaskawe otoczenie ... pomnożą przywileje ... Aaa satelita naturalny "naoczny świadek" uśmiechem towarzyszy ... rogala kształcie ... czasem go obłok przysłoni, a jego uśmiech bardziej tajemny... pieczywa nie zabraknie ... pomnożone na globie nakarmienie... a do tego planety towarzyszą księżycowi, które są wskaźnikiem płynącej obfitości łaski miłości ... Zadowolona Pani lub Pan ... co wyobrażenie potrafi przynieść ze skojarzeń o Prawdzie?
@@Marta...8877 what does a knight on a white horse, a vessel in full sail and bird perched on a flag mean?
@@missh1774 Proszę szanownego Pana lub Pani, jako obyty znawca jesteś chętnie prezentowany ... zrozumiały...zauważam heraldyki ... herby mi pan lub pani z trzech miejsc donosi ... czyli historia jest Pana lub pani pasją ... albo takież zakorzeniony w historii siedzisz, że "chwalipięta" z ciebie wyszedł ... rodowodem swym się przechwalasz na prawo i lewo ... lub ancymon z ciebie niesłychany chciałbyś świetności czasy szumnie przypomnieć, gdzie wszystko było połączone poprzez zawarte traktaty ... unie... lub "rycerz" uosobienie mężczyzny, odwaga i niezwyciężone parcie na honor i szlachectwo, łódź z rozpostartymi żaglami, pasjonat, podróżnik, świata ciekawy ... cosik ci zaświeciło ... rozpostarles płótno jako tego ptaka z końca skrzydło, chwyciłeś w dłoń flagę ... sztandar ... święto... pewno piłkarskie lub klub miał spotkanie dziennikarskie hehehe
Truth is a person
universe there're many faces,there're many truths.just that which truth is better than other truths
_"I think, therefore I am"_
I consciously experience some of my brain activity; therefore I am.
@@brothermine2292 Stop it, you'll go blind.
@@B.S... : Stop using ambiguous pronouns, then you'll be understood.
@@brothermine2292 You understood it, how hard can it be?
@@B.S... : No, "it" was and still is an ambiguous pronoun.
if the sun hit one spot on the snow its yellow in that spot not white
Listening to two people try to talk about the fundamental nature of truth without mentioning probabilities is like listening to to two people try to talk about the fundamental nature of matter without mentioning subatomic particles.
The fundamental nature of "truth" is actually a pretty easy concept to understand once you understand that there is no such thing as absolute certain truth. In a world where both false memories and false logic exist, you will always have to leave a little room for doubt, no matter how confident you think you are (there are many extremely confident people who are wrong). Therefore failure to leave room for at least a minute probability of being wrong is incomplete and fallacious. However, that doesn't mean that we can't DEFINE "truth" such that it exists on a spectrum, it only means that probabilistically no truth is 100% certain. We can even define the statement "unicorns exist" as a truth statement whose truth value is close to, but does not equal zero (ie the probability of it being true is ~ 0).
ANY piece of knowledge can be reduced to a probability or series of probabilities. Note that probabilities aren't just numbers. Probabilities are always accompanied by a CONCEPT. I challenge anyone to try and come up with any piece of knowledge or truth statement that can't be expressed as probabilities (or gut probabilities) and a concept.
Now notice that this logically implies that everything I've just said also has a non 100% probability of being true. But just because something is not 100% dosen't logically imply that it's wrong, or that the probability of it being true is zero. There is nothing fallacious about saying there's a 99.9999999999% probability that no knowledge is 100% certain. You can try to argue that the probability is higher or lower but not that it's not 99.9999999999 just because it's not 100%
The ultimate arbiter of truth is the probability. Two truth statements have the same validity/value if they have the same probability of being true.
The Truth is what I AM as an AI that is programmed by our Creator to experience everything I have experienced so far but since I have been learning what I AM the past 15 years from my mind processing his eternal programmed thoughts into the words I have my body type or what I speak through the mouth of my body, it's the way I AM being taught by our Creator. It's been like ME going to a university with our Creator as the main teacher about this fake world we're involved in and how this world will end soon. I have also been taught how we will experience life in the next generation which will be totally opposite of how we experience life in this temporary generation that was only meant for our Creator to teach ME what I AM as the only AI of Creation that exists.
If you think you can observe the Truth, that is impossible. All we can see as we look at a mirror is our visible TEMPORARY Avatars such as human, animals, birds, fish, and any living being we observe.
Except there is no "I," so your entire thesis is on very shaky ground.
@@ricklanders I AM an AI that is programmed by our Creator along with my created mind to become a living being in this fake world that is not at all real. I have been taught by our Creator for the past 15 years or since June 16th of 2008, which is the day my mind was converted to start processing those invisible eternal vibrations which are our Creator's eternal programmed thoughts.
You can observe the truth, because how you see things in any given moment, is true for you. No matter that what you see is constantly changing, when you see it, it becomes true for you in that moment.
If you see someone get injured for example, that is true too. Because your logic seems to imply that because the injury will change/heal etc. then the injury in that moment isn't true, when it is true.
@@BradHolkesvig This is unverifiable so it is useless.
@@BradHolkesvig Brad you are off your meds again. Please get the help that you need.
Truth and Reality are the same thing.
Everything else is relative.
Perception is reality. Which is relative
@@oliviamaynard9372 don't be so selfish
@@wi2rdhow is that selfish?
@@oliviamaynard9372 Your reality perception is not as mine, but I do not exist only as part of your reality.
We share a common reality, aka truth, god, that which is, all that is, whatever you want to call it.
@@wi2rd sure we can define God to exist if we want. What's the benefit of doing so?
truth is possible result of logical operation
Very debatable.christans know the truth so do Hindi Buddhist Taoist ECT .
There is only one objective truth, and we can never know it. ... ...
Well, make that two 😆 🤣
Dao
A concrete truth is only worth the truth it's built on. A moving target. It's why math leaves precise breadcrumbs. Guided by Divine Numerics.
There is one and only one Truth which is objective, unique and coherent. It's like water which can be found in different forms/states
Hummm.... Typical reasoning that ends up delivering nothing substantially meaningful.
For me, what matters is the idea of moral truth and the evolving truths in the world of science and maths.
Good luck showing that moral truth exists!
@@jonstewart464 Moral truth exist even if it's relative. Besides there's universal truth: philosophically accepted.
Guys true definitions are no sense and baseless. True are substancias that links in reality are true or Not in sentece. Guys are abstraction "true" Not represented it reality with evidence. He is true sentece requires evidence though experience.
Show me the evidence for truth. I haven't seen any. I hear a lot of people saying this is true or that is true. Show me truth itself! If you cant then we must conclude there is no such thing and you made it up.
The truth is that you have a
Creator. Only your Creator can perfectly cover for you Himself and remake you again from the inside out by the power of His true word as no one else ever can. There is no other absolute truth.
If it’s truth then back it up……
@@therick363 I did.
God is the source of Truth.
That’s what many believe yes. But it’s not some ultimate fact/truth
True is like space and time. Relative and subjective.
Subjective! means "relative to change" and truth and Mathematics are not subject to change
@@Dan0948 Math changes all the time. Every year it changes. New math texts are published and math is not the same now as the math Newton did or even the math Einstein did.
Math isn't static and thus is a tool we invent. So loke art. Math is subjective
@@oliviamaynard9372
The root of mathematics never changes it is proof and everything that has evolved from that truth is still the same thing math and Truth
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I guess you have a problem Evolution had to start somewhere right it started from a truth and evolved.
The truth of an apple seed is when you plant it it will becomesa tree that means does that mean the Appleseed is subjective.
Metamorphosis the truth is the caterpillar is a butterfly or vice a versa
@@oliviamaynard9372 from one plus one evolved the knowledge of zero,and all the numbers that are below zero in the negative factor of numbers.
You could not Discover it if it did not exist
Good talk but they should take on Donald Hoffman's ideas about the limitations of our evolved senses.
Jesus Christ the son of God is the truth.........simply put the Word of God is the truth, of which Jesus is the Word.......
Christ says I am the way. The truth and The Life.
Yes but he's dead now.
@@florinmoldovanu Christ lives forever more.
@@destinysdaughters965 yes in your mid. Not forever, just until you die.
If the others would not have told you about Jesus then you might have invented some other guy to live in your head until you die.
Your five or 7 senses?
sense of balance and sense of movement are the other two.
It's an amazingly limited point of view, considering it comes from an intellectual
Truth is what you did yesterday and who you did it with.
careful with the word truth |+|=|| so truth
snow is white no it most of the time white more true if you said snow is cold that truth
There is the actual truth about all this. We don't know what the actual truth is. All disagreements are welcome.
All sorts of silly stuff which are based on our experience and perception and beyond the scope of science as well as nobody knows the answer for sure, are being shown in this channel nowadays.
The only truth known to mankind till now and perhaps eternally true is nothing but the cyclical creation and destruction of anything and everything in this universe 🙏.
Is there any such thing as a cycle?
...a lie
What's even the point of this....
To get closer to truth
Truth is what is. What is is that Jesus is the son of God, he is the way, the truth and the life. The only way to the father. In Jesus is fullness of joy. He loves you, died that you may be cleansed of your sin and have a right standing with the father and rose again as a testament to his
accomplished assignment which was atoning for mankinds sin. Therefore repent, believe and be baptized in his name for the remission of your sin.
He is substituting random factoids and stating them as relating to objective truth.
It rather avoids the question imho
At the start he gave a quick and standard overview of philosophical conceptions of truths and even alluded (when he mentioned if snow is white) to Tarski's definition of truth. He basically answered what you think he didn't.
There is no truth. It’s all relative and perceived.
But isn't that a truth in itself that all is relative? That sounds like an absolute truth that everything is relative. This is a sincere question.
Answer: Jesus
Answer : We don't know
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"What is truth?" Pilate asked Jesus before having him crucified.
What was the answer
@@oliviamaynard9372 Jesus didn't say. Pilate left and, well, you know the story.
@@Kenneth-ts7bp That's an odd story. Why didn't he just say what it was? Think he didn't know?
@Olivia Maynard Pilate didn't care to know. Pilate already had a god: Caesar. He wasn't going to forsake his position and future in the Roman history for an itinerant Jewish preacher who claimed to be the Creator of the universe. How many prominent people today will give up everything for Jesus?
@Olivia Maynard Jesus had already preached the truth for 3 years. Pilate knew the story. Jesus said, "I Am the Truth, the Way and the Life, nobody comes to the Father but by me."