Homemade V12 Engine Start Up - Pure V12 Sound & Shop Talk with Pete Aardema & Kevin Braun

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  • čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
  • Automotive Legends Pete Aardema and Kevin Braun build some of the most bizarre internal combustion engines om the planet. Pete at 80 years old has spent the greater part of his life turning wrenches and building performance motors for a wide variety of vehicle applications. Over the last 40 years, Pete’s love for performance and speed has developed into a personal challenge for him to design and manufacture his own performance cylinder heads and motors proving exemplary results. While 99% of automotive enthusiast purchase bolt on performance parts for their vehicles, this is not an option for Pete and Kevin. Pretty much everything in Pete's garage is self-designed. Kevin is the master machinist and makes everything on the lathe and mill just as people did in the early years of transportation technology. In this video you will see and hear the V12 fire up and run after a full rebuild. This video includes shop talk with Pete and Kevin as how they look at ways to improve intake airflow at 250 MPH. You can see the V12 in action here at 279 MPH at Bonneville last summer. • Bonneville Salt Flats ...

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  • @zebdeming
    @zebdeming Před 2 lety +389

    Spraying the water on the exhaust and watching how far down it boiled is genius, most people would just grab an non contact thermometer, but that wasn't available back in the day. It really speaks to just how clever these guys are

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety +67

      Pete and Kevin are old school, but for sure know their stuff. I'm learning lots just hanging out with these guys.

    • @donziperk
      @donziperk Před 2 lety +41

      I was taught to do that by my grandfather in the 70s when I started up a fresh engine and it had a miss . I was dumbfounded at first but when he explained it it made perfect sense and point to the cylinder that had a bad plug wire. He told me they did it back in the 20s to determine which cylinder was lame. Never forgot that trick and it was a treat to see that being used here.

    • @David_Walker16-3-51
      @David_Walker16-3-51 Před 2 lety +36

      Beats licking your finger and dabbing on the pipe

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes Před 2 lety +9

      The method is different, but the results are the same - one running colder, or if lean, running hotter (so the water boils off faster) is the one to investigate - did the same with a junkyard 3.3 in to my Voyager, to find a bad injector with the thermometer, exhaust was cool, plug coated in soot, injector was stuck open. Replace and runs like new.

    • @rickh633
      @rickh633 Před 2 lety +2

      @@David_Walker16-3-51 still do it that way when im in a hurry

  • @Tropicarna
    @Tropicarna Před 2 lety +183

    Awesome stuff, I'm an engineer based in Queensland, Australia and that would have to be one of the sweetest engines I have ever seen come out of a small workshop like this. Pete and Kevin, I definitely raise a glass to you guys, thanks for sharing this Greg, great video and audio.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes Před 2 lety +1

      How smooth does that idle, for a high strung race motor ?? :)

    • @seanriopel3132
      @seanriopel3132 Před 2 lety +4

      You should see how they made it. They chopped off a cylinder of 4 cylinder head then welded the two separate 3 cylinder heads to make one 6 cylinder head for one bank. Pretty homemade.

    • @yungdolphin9130
      @yungdolphin9130 Před 2 lety +4

      If you see all of their engines you will figure out they are better than any engineer with a full-blown team

    • @charlessearancke9439
      @charlessearancke9439 Před rokem +1

      you 2 guys are genius better than the stuff you get today congratz, make sure you get it on the track to test beautiful

    • @kennethhamilton5633
      @kennethhamilton5633 Před rokem

      They old as dirt, they bones crack, they got mini me's going BUT them ole beavers can still build one helluva dam-n powerful in-jine, I no, old dad joke but I'm an old dad sooo🧐

  • @GeorgeMcKinley.
    @GeorgeMcKinley. Před 2 lety +63

    Oh my God , what a sound. Sounds like a mix of drag bike and Indy car. You guys are what gearheads like me dream of becoming.

  • @coolhand1964
    @coolhand1964 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Old machinists and mechanical engineers never retire, their ambition and legacy just gets bigger.

  • @chrisbraid2907
    @chrisbraid2907 Před 2 lety +81

    Smoothness on the trolley indicates just how well balanced this beautiful Engine is … great job guys !

    • @flaplaya
      @flaplaya Před rokem +9

      All inline 6 cylinder and multiples there of are inherently balanced. Excellent design 👌

    • @misters2837
      @misters2837 Před rokem +1

      @@flaplaya Not many people know that....I6 is balanced primary and secondary....V12 is balanced perfect, and works well to have a 7 main - 6 throw - engine at 60° angle.

  • @vipervidsgamingplus5723
    @vipervidsgamingplus5723 Před rokem +44

    You know an engine is tough when it melts a piston and still propells a vehicle to two seventy nine. That is an amazing engine.

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Your right about that, Pete wonders what it would have done if it was firing on all 12.

  • @CITYBORNDESERTBRED
    @CITYBORNDESERTBRED Před 2 lety +56

    Thank you for being the fly on the wall, straight sound & shop audio 👌🏾 interesting to see these guys interact and think through things, pointing things and and communicating.. living legends

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety +7

      Thank you for watching! I’m not pro with the camera however this stuff is so cool and needs to be documented for people like yourself who have an appreciation for this stuff. I just posted A new video on my channel featuring a DOHC Chevy small block Pete Aardema made as well.

  • @kasinathar1874
    @kasinathar1874 Před 2 lety +9

    These guys know what it’s all about. Old school. Air of confidence.just cool no nonsense dudes with lot of experience. Gives you a great feeling just watching these guys.👍🏽

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety +1

      I appreciate that! stay tuned I will have more video soon. thanks for Watching Greg

  • @sabyegrp
    @sabyegrp Před rokem +1

    Think of this from a different point of view. These old guys probably grew up playing with junk yard cars like I did. I'm a little older than they are, and spent much of my teen years with my Chicago buddies building junk yard cars for the drag strip. What that means is that we bought everything including the car at one of our many auto junk yards. Why...because we had more skills than money.
    I ended up moving on and became an engineer after serving in Vietnam. My point is this. These fellows have taken their skills to a whole different level. Just like fine carpenters and other craftsmen and ladies. My worry is that with few exceptions, there are no more junk yard car opportunities for young folks. And I mean that as an analogy to so many other hands on crafts. Just like there are very few apprentice offers to pass on the old skills that built our nation.
    Having said all that, these guys rock. That's for sure.

  • @terencerucker3244
    @terencerucker3244 Před rokem +7

    No build is complete without the requisite vise-grips somewhere on the build! Great work as usual guys. Can't wait to see it run.

  • @jimedward3011
    @jimedward3011 Před 2 lety +3

    I hope some young people are watching these old guys they're so full of knowledge good stuff

    • @weirdo1083
      @weirdo1083 Před 11 měsíci

      Sad news is with the electrification of the car industry these skills will be lost in the future.

  • @patrickdean9797
    @patrickdean9797 Před 2 lety +29

    this engine is a mechanical masterpiece absolutely brilliant

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety +8

      Thank you, this is one of many masterpieces in Pete collection of odd ball motors.

  • @StabyMcStabsFace
    @StabyMcStabsFace Před 2 lety +4

    I believe they are 100% on track, in their thinking the air is stacking at the back of the scoop. The answer isn't just to run the back 2 holes richer (actually less lean), it's to tighten the difference in air being fed to between all the 12 holes.
    1) a driver or ecu (or timer) controlled flapper on the back of the plenum. If you wanted to do a bit of math, you could rig that trap door with a spring and not have to think about it again, but I'd rather it's opening (and amount of opening) is a known and logged event.
    2) you could have 2 intakes/plenums to feed the front 6 and back 6. A little baffling is fun to play with too, but it's such a dynamic environment in a intake, that it's a ton of chasing.

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for the info I will pass this on to Pete and Kevin.

  • @waynemetevia7983
    @waynemetevia7983 Před rokem +3

    I love it when one or two people get together and design and build something like that from scratch using their own ideas. Great video. Much respect for those two gentlemen.

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před rokem

      Thank you Wayne!, Pete and Kevin are amazing. Thanks for watching the video and please subscribe if you can. More cool stuff coming soon. Greg Q

    • @waynemetevia7983
      @waynemetevia7983 Před rokem

      @@GregQuirin
      You are very welcome and thank you for the video.

  • @michaelovitch
    @michaelovitch Před 2 lety +15

    With an o² sensor per cylinder,they could really see what's happening,ang make log files at least.
    A good tune could enrichen on the fly,if you indicate a AFR target,they could squeeze a bunch of HP too.
    A map sensor on the front and on the rear of the engine in the intake volume,could help them for the aero,and air feed pressure datas knowledge on the engine.

    • @michaelovitch
      @michaelovitch Před 7 měsíci

      @@FyreSturmOfficial
      I think you are sarcastic,but i'm not sure.
      When you have so many cylinders and use the engine in difficult conditions,you need to know what's going on.
      O² sensors can allow you to avoid melted pistons,intake plenum can distribute air unevenly ,specially at high vehicle speed.
      It's good practice on high end stuff like here.

  • @sharkskinboy
    @sharkskinboy Před 2 lety +2

    For the ram air pressure differential issue, they could correct the mixtures using the ECU but the problem is that the front of the engine would essentially be starving of air at high speed and therefore not making optimal power. They really should shoot for equal power from all cylinders. One possible solution would be to have individual, curved intake runners for each throttle body, which all run out to the forward-facing scoop opening, essentially subdividing the opening into 12 equal areas for equal air in each cylinder. Turning the scoop backwards would not only waste the precious ram air effect, but would most likely actually draw some vacuum on the intake.

  • @G-S-D
    @G-S-D Před 2 lety +3

    Just proves we don’t need corporate America. Outstanding job

  • @_..-.._..-.._
    @_..-.._..-.._ Před rokem +2

    Nearly 1,000hp from a NA 6 liter (or somewhere near that) engine is very impressive. Get to 1200 and you’ve matched superbike jP/liter numbers! And 10,000 rpm! 😮😊😮

  • @Boeing__747
    @Boeing__747 Před 11 měsíci

    just recently started learning about engines a fews weeks back and i can't help but appreciate old gearheads. they were way ahead of their time when it comes to this kind of stuff before internet even existed.

  • @LimestoneCoastCustoms
    @LimestoneCoastCustoms Před 2 lety +15

    Love it!! I really miss being in a LSR team, the Ideas/theory & crazy thoughts (some of which end up being pure genius) The late nights, early mornings & extra long weekends just to try & make it happen. At their age, I sure hope I can still be doing it!

  • @curvs4me
    @curvs4me Před 2 lety +25

    Man, I've been searching for these guys since 2016! I couldn't find Pete's shop or anything else. I want to volunteer as a gopher lol. I want to carry on with the same type of work. I've been obsessed with Pete's work my whole life and I'm 52. I live on the wrong coast however.

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety +7

      @KurtSumthinorother if you ever make it to San Diego let us know.

    • @curvs4me
      @curvs4me Před 2 lety +4

      @@GregQuirin I definitely will thank you.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes Před 2 lety +4

      Volunteer for race week and make it the holiday trip of a lifetime :)

  • @moonshinemenace6611
    @moonshinemenace6611 Před 2 lety +9

    When my grandpa raised his Sprint car at Knoxville Iowa at a 130+ miles an hour the airbox would create 1to 2 PSI of air and lean the motor out

  • @hoost3056
    @hoost3056 Před 2 lety +7

    If I remember correctly, Aardema came up with some interesting overhead cam conversions for small block Chevies back in the day.

    • @TubeBrowser2
      @TubeBrowser2 Před 2 lety

      Yes. I found this...DOHC 350 czcams.com/video/9W17Hh64nlQ/video.html

  • @scottcochran384
    @scottcochran384 Před 2 lety +2

    experienced the same problem on a sprint car, we ran a scoop on our airbox to qualify. we ended up Lovering the backside of the scoop mid curve above the airbox with the openings pointing up to relieve the excess pressure. IT WORKED but we weren't anywhere near that speed.. Great Video, and Good Luck.

  • @ShadowOppsRC
    @ShadowOppsRC Před 2 lety +16

    O2 sensor per cylinder is a good idea. Not only can you be able to tune each cylinder you will be able to figure out whats going on at each.

    • @yelyab1
      @yelyab1 Před rokem +2

      I send a few ideas but I figured that they wouldn’t be taken seriously. These guys are “old school” and good at it. Unsolicited ideas are what they line the garbage can with. I was thinking along your lines. I was surprised they didn’t have a knock sensor hooked to a fuel cut off. That’s been around for 20 years. Save a lot of racers a lot of money on engine rebuild. O2 per cylinder is good during testing. I also heard of a BMW or a Mercedes that had a sensor in the front balance wheel the measured the impulse from each cylinder firing. I have never found an after market part that does that. The sensor would have to communicate wirelessly and power would have to be generated by motion of the balance wheel and a magnetic field. Crazy. I want one. The question is “so what do you do if you get a slightly out of normal cylinder”, answer, “ sell the motor, do over”.

    • @mannypuerta5086
      @mannypuerta5086 Před rokem +2

      An EGT probe on each pipe like an airplane engine with a JPI or EI readout would tell a lot. Then you could jet the fuel at each injector to compensate for the airflow at speed and have onboard adjustable fuel pressure for density altitude. Airplanes have been doing it for years.

    • @_..-.._..-.._
      @_..-.._..-.._ Před rokem +1

      @@yelyab1 I’m sure you could use several magnets or bands of N and S on the balancer and it would be able to measure how quick the acceleration is at each firing event. Your idea could work with load cells and weights mounted in the balancer, and/or use TPMS tech for the battery and transmitter design. Or power it without batteries with electromagnets. Just spitballing here 😂

    • @_..-.._..-.._
      @_..-.._..-.._ Před rokem +2

      @@yelyab1 I’m surprised nobody has figured out a way to use an alternator as the measuring device based on the waveform it puts out.

  • @Thomas63r2
    @Thomas63r2 Před 2 lety +1

    High tech and old school all at the same time. God bless Pete and Kevin with many more years, I've enjoyed reading about their exploits since the early 1970's.

  • @benbingham5034
    @benbingham5034 Před rokem +1

    I used to work in the same building, and that thing would make the whole place rumble when they fired it up! Absolute beast!

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před rokem

      Yep we know what you mean. This sound of the V12 is intense at 10,000RPM on the dyno!

  • @goodcitizen7064
    @goodcitizen7064 Před rokem +2

    80 AND STILL WRENCHIN', WHAT A DUDE!

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před rokem +1

      Yep, Pete wrenches 7 days a week! It's deep into his DNA.

  • @edrouse9578
    @edrouse9578 Před 2 lety +11

    I'm imagining how much horsepower these guys have produced over the years. More than enough.

    • @GaryLaaks1
      @GaryLaaks1 Před rokem

      Yea. You always looking for just another 100hp.

    • @TheJustinJ
      @TheJustinJ Před rokem +1

      Definition of an Engine: A Mechanical Device with Insufficient Power. - C.F. Taylor.
      (The Man who wrote the book).

  • @Cre8Thought41
    @Cre8Thought41 Před 2 lety +9

    Absolute magic with old school knowledge and techniques. Thank you for sharing this video. Made my day.

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you, I posted a couple videos of Pete’s motors and race car.

    • @zoggrog8823
      @zoggrog8823 Před 2 lety +1

      Multiport electronic injection, coil on plug electronic ignition, dual ohc v12,dry sump oiling. NOT old school at all

  • @davidstephens1092
    @davidstephens1092 Před 2 lety +28

    In relation to the possible leaning off of the rear cylinders. It could be worth looking at the air intake system that was used on the concorde. Originally they had a problem that the jet engines were only suitable for an air intake speed well below that intended flying speed. They fitted the big boxy intakes that had a baffle system inside which slowed the air down and also increased the pressure inside. This gave the engines more power and is said to be the main reason that the concorde is still the only plane to have flown at Mach 2 without after-burners. Very different engines I know nut if you can control what the air is doing inside the intake scoop you may be able to get an even supercharged effect on all 12 cylinders. Just an idea.

    • @snivesz32
      @snivesz32 Před 2 lety +8

      I don’t think they have a supersonic air problem. They just need to retain the dynamic air pressure while removing the inertia of the air. An 2” thick aluminum mesh halfway down the cowl would be fine. You just have to induce some turbulence.

    • @bigredc222
      @bigredc222 Před 2 lety +3

      I questioned your statement about the Concord, I thought for sure the SR71 could fly supersonic without afterburners, so I did a little reading, you are in fact correct.
      I'm writing this for the next person like me.

    • @davidstephens1092
      @davidstephens1092 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bigredc222 Thank you, They were a truly remarkable work of engineering.

    • @charlestalton1825
      @charlestalton1825 Před 2 lety +1

      Yep, and on fighter jets vari-ramps are used to keep supersonic air off the turbine blades. Kinda like a choke effect. As I watched, I was thinking of a waste gate type setup also, where spring(manual) and/or solenoid(plc or ecm) contolled widgets thru pressure sensers could help regulate stochiometric value better. Just sayin, charlie

    • @alexjohnward
      @alexjohnward Před 2 lety +1

      @@bigredc222 The F111 could do those speeds without afterburner, nobody ever dared find the top speed with afterburner - 2.9 was the highest anyone claimed to get to, but that came at great risk of melting the windscreen.

  • @stuartcookie133
    @stuartcookie133 Před 2 lety

    Gotta love the older guys...Not afraid to jam their fingers into moving pulleys,over running throttle bodies or hot headers!! And dont forget about the 5 gals of race gas balanced between 2 angry pipes!!

  • @buchmannray
    @buchmannray Před rokem +2

    I love the sound of the V12, that they built this is amazing

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před rokem

      Thank you for watching the video. More cool stuff coming soon!

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 Před 2 lety +1

    My goodness gracious Pete, you are so active at eighty years of age. May God bless you with another twenty year plus. Shame you are so far away from me as I would love to see you in person and shake you hand. What a hell of an engine you guys made. Can I be so bold and call you both Macgyvers for sure. Peace and out. vf

  • @calvinevans8305
    @calvinevans8305 Před 2 lety +26

    6:45 don't put a relief in the back of the scoop, you will loose power at speed. Put a separator, or splitter inside the scoop to give an even amount of air to the front and back six throttles. Or two scoops, one for the front six and one for the back six throttles.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes Před 2 lety +5

      Yup! Need to even out the pressure, so all the cylinders can make the same power.
      Either baffles and separators inside, or a variable restrictor that keeps the pressure constant in the whole of the plenum, and can vary according to vehicle speed and throttle loads, like the cone in front of the SR-71's jet engines.

  • @jamesgeorge4874
    @jamesgeorge4874 Před 2 lety +21

    I'd be logging data on 12 wideband sensors if I spent the money on building a one off custom V12.

    • @Raphael-id3cl
      @Raphael-id3cl Před 2 lety +4

      true. surprised to see fuel injection and electronic ignition with such little telemetry. guess they just "know".

    • @gordowg1wg145
      @gordowg1wg145 Před 2 lety

      Well, while I'd agree with you, and EGR's, there may be UCU support issues - but at least 4 in the primary collectors would give some useful data.

    • @alanhillyard1639
      @alanhillyard1639 Před 2 lety +3

      @@gordowg1wg145 You could run a standalone logger to get the EGTs and wideband readings over and above any capability of the system they are running, doesn't have to be closed loop but would sure help to diagnose this issue they are having (and could be hooked to an alarm to tell them to shut down before it goes pop). Seems like they may be stuck in the ways they know, rather than using everything that is now available to help them. I'm sure they've forgotten more old ways than I know though!

    • @johncherian3942
      @johncherian3942 Před 2 lety +4

      Losing a cylinder because it ran lean? That would have cost more than 12 closed loop Widebands!

    • @recoilrob324
      @recoilrob324 Před 2 lety

      Wideband sensors don't play nice with race gas...at least for very long. EGT thermoprobes don't care about what fuel you run, and for what these guys are doing would make the most sense. That would have clearly shown the lean cylinder before it melted had they been running EGT's.
      And coming from the aircraft world....we've figured out how to diffuse inlet air a LONG time ago. You don't need to 'reinvent the wheel'....just look at other disciplines who deal with high speed air flow and see how they handle it. The inlet area needs to be able to feed the motor, but then you need a gradual increase in area to slow the air down and increase the pressure (Bernoulli's Law at work). It's not the speed of the air coming in that makes the power...it's the increase in pressure. Slow moving high pressure air can then be fed equally across the motor with simple ducting.

  • @putinkhuylo
    @putinkhuylo Před rokem +1

    Who ever said tri-y headers aren't good for top end power? Ha! Pete and Kevin are incredible!

  • @milentiusgaming
    @milentiusgaming Před rokem

    LOL @ dog just standing there staring down the shed, revs the engine -> dog unphased -> must win staring comp!!!1!1

  • @billgermani5769
    @billgermani5769 Před 7 měsíci

    The sound of an uncorked engine running will bring in every car guy within earshot. I’d be drawn to it like a moth to a bug zapper.

  • @Richard.Hybels
    @Richard.Hybels Před 2 lety +4

    I’d love to hear how they created this motor. Why they chose V12 config, what injection system they chose and so on. 920 horses from 369 inches is awesome. Hats off to these guys!

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety

      Thank you!

    • @Richard.Hybels
      @Richard.Hybels Před 2 lety

      @@GregQuirin I did find my way to the vid on all the motor details. Fascinating.

  • @aaronmcconnell9369
    @aaronmcconnell9369 Před rokem +1

    Real men. Real machine. Millennials in Tesla’s will never be a stain in the underwear of people like this.

  • @danokerr9929
    @danokerr9929 Před 2 lety +1

    These folks know exactly what they are doing. Some of the best builders in the world

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety

      Pete and Kevin are always improving and they have several engine builds all different going on in the shop. The V12 only ran one season and Pete and Kevin are building the 2 liter , as well as the Moser and considering now a possible 3rd V12 build. Thanks for watching! Greg

    • @danokerr9929
      @danokerr9929 Před 2 lety

      @@GregQuirin thank you for showing great job!

  • @nigelbeaumont1109
    @nigelbeaumont1109 Před 2 lety +1

    The Engine looks great but the 80 year old Gentleman looks even better.

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety

      I'm sure Pete will appreciate this comment. I do print and share these comments with Pete. Thanks for watching!

  • @neilreid2298
    @neilreid2298 Před 2 lety +3

    Glorious exhaust note! Just...wow. Well done, gents, well done indeed.

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety

      Glad you enjoyed it did you see and hear this one? fb.watch/9uVBxdJF0H/

  • @franktaylor7617
    @franktaylor7617 Před 2 lety +2

    Stand still!
    You're making us seasick!
    😆

  • @bartbullock9742
    @bartbullock9742 Před rokem +1

    Two good old boys with a passion making things happen.

  • @ChrisMcCutcheon-wj2pp
    @ChrisMcCutcheon-wj2pp Před 6 měsíci

    Gotta love gear heads and eniguity, I like the placement of the c 14 race fuel bucket

  • @franzkoviakalak6981
    @franzkoviakalak6981 Před 2 lety

    The three mismatched intake trumpets and homely alternator pulley setup only make this incredible motor even more beautiful.

  • @conservativemike3768
    @conservativemike3768 Před rokem +1

    It sounds ready for a very sleek Italian floatplane competing for the Schneider Cup.

  • @danobryant7740
    @danobryant7740 Před rokem +2

    Very cool very fun stuff and would love to do welding for this kind of stuff . I’m an aviation welder by trade. Now it could be possible to put stator veins in your scoop and then trim or adjust them accordingly so all cylinders are getting the same air pressure through the intakes . Flow and pressure are like volts and amps . Love the project

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před rokem +2

      Thank you Dano, They have added a baffle above all 12 throttle bodies inside the air box. It should be good the go now!.

  • @juanf4739
    @juanf4739 Před 2 lety +3

    Man does that sound amazing!!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍 old guys rule!!!!!!!!’

  • @dfjelddalen
    @dfjelddalen Před 2 lety

    Impressive analog diagnostics, feeling the engine’s health by running one’s hands over all of the 12-cylinder, fuel injected racing engine as though it was a newborn puppy.

  • @Flapswgm
    @Flapswgm Před rokem +1

    When we race or aircraft, we use EGT (exhaust gas temp) and CHT (cylinder head temp) gauges to help monitor our engines. In your case, you should run EGT and O2 which will give you the optimal read out for gas to air ratios per cylinder. One of your guys said you can adjust each cylinder which we can too, and if that is true, you can either make it manual or auto adjust to the mix or temps you want. Have fun.

    • @SwiftRIBSAust
      @SwiftRIBSAust Před rokem

      Agreed the ECU should be able to handle multi EGT, data first

  • @robertpolicastro1
    @robertpolicastro1 Před rokem

    I remember see in a magazine years ago. Seems pete lost a lot of protype stuff in wildfires that burned down his garage. Glad to see he’s still kicking

  • @lorimcquinn3966
    @lorimcquinn3966 Před 2 lety +1

    There is so much to learn from guys like this, decades of experience. Thanks for sharing.

  • @mikedownen3962
    @mikedownen3962 Před 10 měsíci

    Beautiful masterpiece people will be talking about this for decades and years

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 10 měsíci

      Thank you Mike, ,Please check back early next week, we hope to have a new video posted of this weekends race. We will be running the 3L sheet metal engine. it made 662HP so we hope its enough to set a new record. thank you Greg

  • @dvoob
    @dvoob Před 2 lety

    Been watching through a bunch of these videos, didn't realize pete was 80! He looks great for that age, benefit of keeping your mind and body working.

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for watching! We should have some more content soon! Greg Q

  • @iprfitness7928
    @iprfitness7928 Před rokem +2

    I think doing some wind tunnel testing with your air box to create baffles to even out the flow/pressure, and then incorporate a pressure sensor that adjusts your fuel mixture. This would allow you to take advantage of the vehicle speed.

  • @idus
    @idus Před 2 lety +4

    Vice grips always have a use. Awesome content. A lost art being brought to life.

  • @geezer4962
    @geezer4962 Před 24 dny

    Yeah, sounds a little bit like the Offenhauser of years gone bye, loving it.

  • @michaelsorrentino9279
    @michaelsorrentino9279 Před 2 lety +1

    VERY VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS RIGHT HERE !!!!!!

  • @michaelgautreaux3168
    @michaelgautreaux3168 Před 2 lety +1

    Like watching magic!
    Always have had a deep interest in crafting metal into something. These guys are the top level.

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety

      Thank you and thanks for watching! Greg

  • @jarnosaarinen4583
    @jarnosaarinen4583 Před 2 lety +1

    369 ci looks massive!

  • @MrKips1
    @MrKips1 Před 2 lety +1

    Two intakes, stacked one on top of the other. One for the front six, one for the rear six.

  • @darrindouglas1
    @darrindouglas1 Před 2 lety +8

    Such a sweet sound, and sadly, not as loud as I thought it would be. Great stuff guys.

  • @brookrestall3274
    @brookrestall3274 Před rokem

    Inline-6 = perfect primary balance.
    V-12 almost as perfectly balanced.
    I-6s and V-12s are FANTASTIC engines.

  • @bikesthatvote2855
    @bikesthatvote2855 Před 2 lety +2

    I'm a bit late to the party, but motorcycle ram air technology might help. The ram air intakes feed an air box / plenum, which then feeds the carbs / throttle bodies. There's a whole science as to the shape and size of the air box, but the idea seems to be increasing and balancing the pressure feeding each intake. Obviously, the air filter on a street bike helps diffuse the air flow. If no filter is used, some kind of baffles would be needed for the LSR engine.

  • @justaskmeiknow5584
    @justaskmeiknow5584 Před 2 lety

    80 yrs old...never would have thought that

  • @petsatcom
    @petsatcom Před 2 lety +2

    The high velocity air coming in (250 mph) is (should be) defused slowly (area increasing) entering a larger dia tube (reducing velocity increasing pressure) , the velocity is reduced as it travels down the difuser and the pressure increased.
    The trick is to do this in a way that the increased pressure is distributed a cross the intake bank. May have to create a light chamber above to distribute the pressure below via large slots to let the air in above intake ports.o Slot size may vary larger further away smaller closer to high pressure end of the a above chamber

  • @drbelli
    @drbelli Před 2 lety +1

    Black thumbs Masta Wrench mecha doctors, glorious!

  • @beforebefore
    @beforebefore Před 2 lety +3

    The back seat engineer in me says you don't want to enrich the rear cylinders as they would then make too much power - relative to the others. More appropriate would be to close those butterflies a little bit to bring the mixture back in line with the rest of the engine... which would then make the surplus pressure available to the cylinders in front... balance the air flow.

    • @sexyfacenation
      @sexyfacenation Před 2 lety

      Why would the back cylinders making more power be bad?

    • @beforebefore
      @beforebefore Před 2 lety

      @@sexyfacenation If it were a small. percentage... say 10-15% more, probably little risk. But the pressure buildup at the back of an intake ram would (at speed) probably result in a 2:1 difference, which could cause crankshaft twist problems... or at least highly unbalanced cylinder combustion pressures... leading to rear-most cylinder related failures.
      This is why some racers have used individual "per cylinder" ram stacks.

    • @sexyfacenation
      @sexyfacenation Před 2 lety

      @@beforebefore wouldn't matter. You want each cylinder to make as much power as it can. The engine won't break due to some cylinders making more power.

  • @LTG1930
    @LTG1930 Před rokem +1

    Would be great to see what they've done the the older LT5 builds, the parts availability for performance was so limited and theyve done some amazing work

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před rokem +1

      All 3 of their LT5 engines are complete runners at this time. I will ask Pete and Kevin if the want to do a LT5 engine video. This Video has some LT5 content- czcams.com/video/j7KHy6s2Yg8/video.html

    • @LTG1930
      @LTG1930 Před rokem

      @@GregQuirin thank you I was sharing the Hot Rod Magazine pics with some of the old Mercury Marine LT5 group. There is a die hard group of LT5 enthusiasts still out there, recently a C4 ZR-1 set a class record at Bonneville .... Such an underappreciated work of art!

  • @ricksanchez3106
    @ricksanchez3106 Před 10 měsíci

    Absolute bad asses!!!!! These men are so smart. What a great team. What great thinking and engineering. Hats off to you boys. Note the using of water to check if the cylinders are the same temp. No laser deal nope old school water style. Works just as well. Bad asses! Cam driven alternator? Sick

  • @Uswesi1527
    @Uswesi1527 Před 6 měsíci

    Undoubtedly, definitely, a unique, unprecedented, unparalleled masterpiece. Thanks.Absolutely

  • @donsmith6045
    @donsmith6045 Před rokem +1

    That engine sounds rowdy when you Crack the throttles!

  • @TWTexasA1
    @TWTexasA1 Před rokem

    Now that’s a sound you won’t hear everyday….so awesome 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před rokem

      czcams.com/video/d5kV3qkz6FM/video.html Listen to this - thanks Greg

  • @romanval69
    @romanval69 Před 2 lety +10

    Sounds like an F1 engine from the early 90's!

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety +4

      Thank you it does sound awesome and you should hear it at 250MPH

    • @compt3ck
      @compt3ck Před 2 lety +2

      Sounds like an F1 mixed with a large displacement 4 cylinder motorcycle engine. Very cool!

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety +1

      @@compt3ck thank you it does sound amazing

    • @PSOT
      @PSOT Před 2 lety

      My initial first thoughts as well! Thank you💪😁

  • @SGTMARSHALL1
    @SGTMARSHALL1 Před rokem +1

    Seems like great numbers considering

  • @davehutchins2820
    @davehutchins2820 Před 10 měsíci

    Impressive, very impressive. Great work guys! You make all lifetime car guys feel proud.

  • @robertwingate650
    @robertwingate650 Před 2 lety +3

    The scoop needs to be separate from the air box.
    By bringing the air in from the scoop thru a 180 degree turn and bringing it into the center of the sealed air box ( and installing a diffuser) the pressure to each throttle plate will equalize.
    Pretty low tech approach, but it will work.
    Then add some O2 sensors for fuel enrichment as manifold pressure changes, ( or run it fat on the low end and tune for WOT+ 250 AP)

  • @Chr.U.Cas1622
    @Chr.U.Cas1622 Před 2 lety +3

    👍👌👏 Oh WOW! Simply fantastic! That beast sounds sooo good and extremely aggressive = strong! Very well done (video and work). Chapeau to the builders/inventors. They really did another outstanding job. Hope their health stays on.
    Thanks a lot for making explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
    Best regards, luck and health to all involved people.

  • @sirtnfol8476
    @sirtnfol8476 Před 2 lety +1

    Chamber the intake like a flowmaster to divert the air. Maybe put a map sensor on front amd back of the scoop to monitor the difference and adjust baffles.

  • @porchefamilyfarm559
    @porchefamilyfarm559 Před rokem

    Instead of putting a relief in the back of the scoop,run an internally split intake scoop. The top inlet provides air for the rear six pack inlets, and the lower provides air for the front six pack.
    The some simple tuning and your good.
    Thermal couplers on each exhaust will help with the tuning, and 4 O2 sensors to ensure your tune is just a little richer than stoseometric.

  • @TrulyUnfortunate
    @TrulyUnfortunate Před 2 lety +1

    Holy Shit!!!!
    A built from scratch V12!!!!
    As a machinist thats incredibly Cool!!!

  • @dean_fkn_jones
    @dean_fkn_jones Před 4 měsíci

    Greg-ask Pete and Kevin if they want a middle age apprentice?! Willing to sell up in the UK and move there for the opportunity…! The knowledge these pair have between them needs to be passed along for the next generation of speed freaks. ❤ Keep up the good work guys!

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 4 měsíci

      Pete doesn't like the steering wheel on the right hand side so that's probably not gonna happen. However your always welcome to come and visit us in San Diego!

  • @robfrancis8830
    @robfrancis8830 Před 2 lety +6

    Gotta love that v12 sound. Awesome work

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety

      Glad you like it! thanks for watching!

  • @clutchkicker392ison5
    @clutchkicker392ison5 Před 2 lety

    One mans noise is another mans music. And those megaphones wow.

  • @worldssickestmedia2713
    @worldssickestmedia2713 Před 2 lety +1

    Watch them do all those old school tricks to monitor and guage the engine takes me back to all the old guys that taught me. I'm only 42 but I'm watching a lot of those old methods fall to the wayside. And I don't have the patience to teach anyone. Sight, sound, touch, taste smell. We don't need no stinkin computer or gauges.

  • @kingearl2596
    @kingearl2596 Před 2 lety

    That is the coolest thing I'd ever seen - and I am 62 years old

  • @michaelnielsen7050
    @michaelnielsen7050 Před rokem +1

    V12 the true racing sound.

  • @bravofoxable
    @bravofoxable Před 2 lety +2

    Wow! Well done guys

  • @COM70
    @COM70 Před 2 lety

    The accumulated knowledge and experience is mind boggling.

  • @richjudy2887
    @richjudy2887 Před rokem

    I'm 66. I just HOPE the passion continues with today's kids. Let's see in 2060, or will only outlaws and those willing to pay an EV tax-inflated $40/gal. fuel be around to keep this true Mensa mentality going. Beautiful!

  • @anarchistangler
    @anarchistangler Před 2 lety

    Pete and Kevin look like legends.

  • @jonivanart
    @jonivanart Před 2 lety +3

    Magnificent piece of machinery! Sounds like they have plans to add EGT sensors to prevent another meltdown. Have they thought about a Haltec to manage it all?

  • @eduardotorres2112
    @eduardotorres2112 Před 5 měsíci

    Really hope they teach somebody all that knowledge😢 I would love to learn many many thing about that level engineering 🙏 beautiful

  • @jakemartin4305
    @jakemartin4305 Před 2 lety

    Love how the alternator pulley is ran off the camshaft lol this is awesome

  • @briancorso5241
    @briancorso5241 Před 2 lety +1

    OMG......What a Beautiful Sound!!!

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety

      Sounds even better on the Dyno - Here you go fb.watch/9r0G-HPb30/

  • @schwags1969
    @schwags1969 Před 2 lety +1

    What a legend, true master.

  • @shaadydog1
    @shaadydog1 Před 2 lety +2

    These guys have done some really cool stuff you wish the manufacturer would do. If you ever get a chance they did a v12 for hydro racing that’s is just a phenomenal piece.

    • @GregQuirin
      @GregQuirin  Před 2 lety +1

      That big V12 Pete and Kevin made for Hydro racing is still around. I’m gonna to work on Pete to see if we can fire it up some day soon.

    • @shaadydog1
      @shaadydog1 Před 2 lety

      @@GregQuirin that would be awesome!