@Web Mitra - A) If the company's employee strength is >=20 and a employee's salary is more than Rs.20000 at entry lebel, PF it compulsory or optional? B) If the company's employee strength is less than 20 and a employee's salary is more than Rs.20000 at entry lebel, PF it compulsory or optional?
Employee strength is considered to see if the Act applies to the company or not. Once application of Act is established, then it is to see for which employee pf deduction is mandatory. (A) if employee strength is more than 19- pf act automatically applies to the company. Bt pf deduction will be mandatory for those employee whose entry salary is less than or equal to 15k. So, for an employee whose salry is 20k, pf deduction is not mandatory. ( Provided that he is not an active pf member already) (B) if employee strength is less than 20. In this scenario, since the Act does not apply to company (I am assuming that the company has not taken voluntary coverage ie coverage even for less than 20 employees through section 1(4)), there's no point for the coverage of its employees. So, whatever is the salary of employee, pf will not be deducted.
प्रणाम सर, हमारी सैलरी 18 हजार है, epf नहीं कटवाना चाहते, क्योंकि कंपनी epf ke नाम से पैसे की कटौती कर epf खाते में पैसा जमा ही नहीं कर रहा है, कृपया कोई आधार या कागज बताएं जिसको दिखा के हम Epf नहीं कटवाए। कंपनी बहुत शोषण कर रहा है😭😭
PF deduction salary ke cash ya cheque hone pr depend nhi krta. If company PF mn covered hai and if salary 15k ya isse Kam hai toh PF deduction mandatory hai. Cash payment pf ki chori ka karan banta hai isliye bank account ya cheque se salary lene ki koshish rahni chahiye.
You can register your grievance with PF office online or offline. Also, companies are required to get form-11 (ie declaration from new employees whether they are existing pf member or not). Fill the form correctly that you are already pf member. Even then if company doesn't make you pf member then this can become an evidence against its non compliance.
Sir,My basic is 15K & PF Deduction is same from last two years company is not Increasing basic part in Increment they are Increasing other salary components Every year.in this case what I can do to increase my PF amount
Legally, an employer is bound to comply PF deduction upto 15K. Beyond that it's upon consent of both employee and employer to have surplus deduction or not.
if the employer has never had 20 or more employees. But salary of few employees is below 15000.. does he have to comply since he is paying salary of below 15000?? or it is not mandatory for him?
the employee is member of PF before joining our Org. but we have not deducted PF because of salary is more than 15000 now we understand that PF deduction is compulsory is employee is member of PF. so please tell us how to correct this mistake
Hello Sir, informative video.. Ek doubt jaisa apne bataya new company me 15000 se upper salary par join kiya hai aur membership se bahar nikalne ke liye Pura PF withdrawal karna hoga... Kya sirf PF withdrawal karna hota hai ya pension bi...? Please tell
Company ko 20 ya usse zyada employee hone pr compulsorily PF registration krwana hota hai. But if company khud chahe toh 20 se kam hone pr bhi voluntarily section 1(4) ke under PF registration krwa sakti h. So, if aisa case hai toh kyuki aapki salary 15k se kam h toh OF deduction zaroori ho jaega
One of our employee PF was in previous company but his salary more than 35 k in our company so he do not want to deduct pf in our company. Is it possible?
If his earlier PF membership continues to be in operation (ie if he has not closed it by withdrawing full amount), then in new company also he has to be a PF member
If employee already have PF UAN no. in the last organization then he left the job and join new organization and his current basic salary more than 15000 so his pf compulsory ?
In my previous job company have less than 20 employees that why i don't have my UAN number and my pf was not deducted and now I'm joining new one and they are asking me to compulsorily submit the UAN no. So my question is that what should I tell them in this situation? Sir kindly give me the solution
Just tell them that you dnt have a UAN number and give them your Adhar Number. Using Adhar they can create UAN and in case if any UAN is already created for you then from Adhar that UAN can also be retrieved.
Hamara contractor hamara of account nahi khol raha hai hum 13 log hai 10 saal se kaam kar rah hai ,navi mumbai municipal corporation m contract base par ,hum ky kare hamari koi sunta nahi hai
Sir, आउटसोर्स के माध्यम से अभी नया कंपनी में ज्वाइन किए है, सैलरी 15 हजार से ऊपर है इसलिए हम epf नहीं कटवाना चाहते है, क्योंकि कंपनी वाले epf का पैसा समय पर जमा नहीं करते है, और epf काटने को दबाव डाल रहा है। मेरी आपसे विनती है की कोई सर्कुलर में प्वाइंट हो जिसको दिखा कर हम epf नहीं कटवाए। ईपीएफ नहीं भी कटवा सकते है इस प्रकार का कोई प्वाइंट बताकर कृपया मार्गदर्शन दें।
सबसे पहले तो मैं ये कहना चाहूंगा की पीएफ कटवाने से कर्मचारी का ही भला है क्योंकि इससे आप ईपीएफ के सभी लाभों के लिए योग्य बन जाते हैं। और यदि समस्या ये है की आपकी कंपनी आपके सैलरी से pf काटने के बाद पीएफ ऑफिस में जमा नहीं करवाती तो आप इसकी शिकायत नजदीकी पीएफ ऑफिस में कर सकते है। इस प्रकार की गड़बड़ी करने पर कंपनी प्रॉसिक्यूट हो सकती है क्योंकि ये कानून अपराध है। और जहा तक बात है आपके पीएफ न कटवाने की इक्षा की तो यह इस बारे में नियम मैने वीडियो mn बताया ही है । यदि आप वर्तमान वाली कंपनी ज्वाइन करने से पहले पीएफ के सदस्य नही है और यदि आपकी सैलरी १५ हजार से ज्यादा है तो पीएफ कटवाना जरूरी नहीं है । इस स्तिथि में एक declaration form dena hota hai - जिसे फॉर्म ११ (ग्यारह) बोलते हैं ।
Sir meri company ne kisi b employee ko EPF me enroll nahi Kiya h, iski shikayat kisse Karu ? Company k boss se puchunga to mujhe job se nikal denge. Plz rply
Sir meri salry 13k thi mera pf tab se cut Raha hai ab meri salary bad ke 21k ho gayi hai. Per mai pf nhi cut kerwana chahta iske liye. Kiya kerna hoga sir. Plzz
Sir koi company kisi empolyee ko tarinee me dal kar pf ko baypass kar sakta hai kya pls bataiye kyuki sayad hamre sath aisa ho raha hai kyu ki mera pahle pf kat ta tha lekin me company chor ke chala gaya tha avi phir aya to nhi kat raha hai
@@_webmitra salery to di ja rahi hai lekin ab sirf employee code me badlaon pahle B code se employee code tha ab C code se hai hr bm ko puchne par bolte hai ki c code walon ka pf nhi kat ta hai kahte hai ki govt ka naya rule aisa bolte hai
In case epf act is applicable to the employer once but later on the number of employees is reduced below the limit. Now is it mandatory for the employer to deduct EPF?
If aapne pichle company ke pf ka Paisa nhi nikala hai..and if aapki new company pf mn registered hai toh aapki salary new company mn kitni bhi ho aapka pf katna hi chahiye. If Aisa nhi ho rha toh nazdiki pf ofc mn aap complaint kr sakte hain
Sir ager koi 20 days ek company mai kaam kre or baad mai left kr dy kisi issue ki vja sy...fir os condition mai ager oski salary aa jae pf cut kr ke toh fir ager voh kahi or job kre toh pf cut hoga....
Han ..provided ki (1)uski new company PF mn covered ho (2) and new company join krne waqt wo Form-11 mn ye declare kre ki pahle se pf member hai. Agar ye dono condition hote h toh new company mn uski salary 15k se zyada ho ya kam pf deduction compulsory hoga.
If u are not a of member already then ur pf deduction is not mandatory. This declaration from your side( that u are not a of member already) will be taken by your employer through Form-11. There is no form for exemption. Actually, it's a form for declaring whether u already have a pf account or not.
Sir, agar last companies mein pf kata ho aur abhi new company mein 10 employee ki strength se pf nahi katre ho halki salary 40k ho toh kya ye blacklist company hai? Agr pf katvana ho toh kya kar sakte hai? Aur agr pf nahi katege toh current pf account ka kya hoga?
श्रीमान सर हम 400+ कर्मचारी हरियाणा सरकार मे पिछले 4 साल से काम कर रहे हैं और हमारी सैलरी 35000+ हैं और हमारा कोई भी EPF और ESI मे सरकार ना हमारा पैसा काट रहीं और ना खुद का 10% पैसा कटवा रहीं क्या हम कोई लीगल कारवाई के हकदार से अपना पैसा सरकार से ले सकते हैं
Sir e bataye yadi meri salary 35000 hai aur Mera isse pahle wali company me pf deduct hota tha lekin new company ni diduct kr rhi hai Kai bar bol dia but deduct ni krte to kya karen
Jis pf office mn apki new company registered hai waha complaint kare...penalty ke sath company bharegi... Online complaint bhi Kiya ja sakta hai epfigms.gov.in per
Suppose,My salary will be Rs.55,000 p.m in my next company.Last company's pf a/c I have closed.So,can I tell my next employer not to deduct any Pf and if yes,how?
Since, epf is mandated an an Act of parliament, it does not depends on your wish. If you fall in the mandatory category then ur of deduction will be compulsory.
Sir jo defence service me jaise Army, navy, State police unka ppf shayad date of joinning se he govt. Already cut krti h, to kya aise logo bhi post office me ppf scheme le skte h..
Post office ya bank mn jo pf jama hota h wo ppf kahlata hai. And ye epf se bilkul alag hai. Bank ya post office wale ppf mn koi bhi deposit kar sakta hai. And uske withdrawal rules aur interest epf se bilkul alag hota hain.
Meri company(ISPC) kya kese mujhe nahi pta kyoki hr or manajar bade kamine h mujhe 12500 rupay de rahe h koi pf nahi bonus nahi 18/2/2020 ki joining h or 17/7/23 ho gye h mujhe isme kaam krte 20 se jyada employee ismai work karte h wo apke is kanooni ko nahi mante hm kya kre.hm nahi denge esa khte h .pease kisi wakeel ji ka no de jo mere help kr sake.
If you're doing two jobs (both consulting and both above 50k pm salary with more than 20 staffs) and first time job kar rahe (pehle se pf account nahi tha), lekin ek me pf kat raha or dusre me nahi. To kya ek company ko dusre k bare me pata chalega? Kya ye india me illegal hai?
If mandatory wale rules mn aa rahe ho toh deduction compulsory h. And my personal suggestion would be ki if possible, deduction krwana chahiye. High return, pension, insurance..ye saare advantages h. Jitna khud ki salary se deduct hoti hai utna hi employer ke side se jama hota h - ye extra hi toh hai.
Kya pf ktwana y na cutwana option hota h employee k pass , or agr Pehle cutta ho or baad m na ktwaye pf tb kya hota hai jitna paisa bhara hua hai uska kya hoga
Jo bhi employee eligible hote hai ie jinki salary 15000 ya usse kam ho / jinki pahle se PF membership ho ..unke liye PF karwana compulsory hota hai. PF mn jama hua paisa partial ya full nikalwaya ja sakta h online form 31 ya form 19 bhar kar. Jama hue paise per government interest bhi deti h.. abhi wo 8.5% hai
Hi, i was working in mnc they manage their fund in trust, thus i cannot withdraw online, and my new organization does not provide me pf and my salary is 36k, can i use this statement that " i am not getting pf in my new organization.and get my money withdrawn From old organization?"
Sir meri salary abhi 30k hai, mera pf deduct nahi hota , but TDS 3000/monthly deduct hota hai, previous company me bhi 16000 salary per pf deduct nahi hota tha. Iske pahle ki company me 8000 salary per pf deduct hota tha jo mene resignation ke withdrawal kar liya mera uan no. Bhi hai , kya ab mera pf deduct karwa sakta hu.
If aap ek baar pf member ban jao toh switch karne pr if aapki salary 15k se zyada ho toh bhi aapka new conpany mn PF deduct hona chahiye. Lekin condition ye hai ki aapka purana of membership khatm nahi hua ho ie aapne withdraw nahi kara ho. Aapke baato se aisa lag raha ki aapne withdraw kar liya h. Iss scenario since aapki salary 15k se zyada thi joining k time so aapki company pf deduct karne k liye mazboor nahi thi.
If I have a PF a/c in previous Company and do not want to close the a/c, but take up a job in an establishment with less than 20 employees and hence that Company does not deduct or contribute to PF. Is such scenario ok ? I want to continue the PF a/c since it is beneficial for future.
As u said ur new company is not covered under EPF Act, so despite of you being eligible the new company may not deduct your pf as lons as it remains uncovered. You still may not close your previous pf account and continue earning the interest at least.
@@_webmitra thanks for the reply. definitely will continue with the pf a/c not only for interest but also any future job change with a company covered by epf act
@@_webmitrahi sir, in my last 2 companies pf amount deducted and there my salary was 30k but now i got an offer where there employees ratio is 10 and they provide 40k but not deducted any pf which i really want to deduct. What if my pf is not deducted then it will be a disadvantage in the future? And what to do for the current pf account. Please help
If you are working for an contractor they have to pay you ESI and PF. I am also a railway contractor I pay ESI and PF to each and every employee. What many people do is show that their family member is working and the ESI and PF is registered on their name. Which you should have got, if your salary is less than 15k then I have to pay 12% for your PF and rest 13 percent will be paid by government. (PF percentage is 25% in railway of your base salary) If your salary is more than 15k PF amount of 12% can be deducted from your salary and the rest 13% will be paid by the government. On ESI you or your employer have to pay 0.75% and government will pay 3.25%.
PF deduction is mandatory for employees with salary upto 15000. If u were not an active PF member before this current job and if ur entry salary here was above 15000, then your PF is voluntary not mandatory.
@@_webmitra Not the same for Railway, those who earn less than 15,000 the employer and government pay for their ESI and PF. If some contractor doesn't pay ESI or PF amount he or she can go to jail. 12% is paid by employer and 13% from the government for PF. And for ESI 0.75% from Employer and 3.25% from the government.
@@_webmitra PF is mandatory in railway or those who are in related work to railway. Even for those whose salary is more than 15,000 rupees. My father have been paying ESI and PF for last 10 years, so we know about this a lot.
यदि आपके कंपनी में किसी भी दिन सभी प्रकार के एम्प्लॉय मिलाकर 20 एम्प्लॉय नहीं हुए है तो आपकी कंपनी पर ईपीएफ एक्ट मैंडेटरी नही है। इसलिए इस स्थिति में जब तक कंपनी ने खुद सेक्शन 1(4) में वॉलंटरी coverage ना लिया हो तो पीएफ काटना मैंडेटरी नही है।
If ur new company is covered under EPF Act and if ur entry salary is less than or equal to 15k then pf deduction is mandatory. You have no other option. Also, if you had a pf membership and have not withdrawn that money then your new company will have to make you a pf member irrespective of your salary in your new company.
Hii sir.. I work in a company where my salary is more than 24000 but they are not deducting pf.. And only professional taxis deducted can I put the case and close the company
The company has to mandatorily deduct pf for employees with entry salary less than or equal to 15000. For employees with entry salary more than 15k, the company can deny the deduction ( provided the employee was not a PF member earlier )
If anybody wants to work in another company while working in one company. If both company deducts pf then is there any problem with the employee. If yes then is there any solution to do that
Theoretically there's no problem. However, presently, the software of EPFO is not processing any transfer claims wherever overlap is there. So, one has to apply offline for this. And the demerit of offline is that it takes time to be processed and is on the mercy of promptness of the concerned pf office
Han..sahi bola h aapki company ne. Jab tak aap iss company mn ho tab tak apka pf deduction compulsory h. If aap dusre company mn switch krte hai and join krne se pahle pichhla membership khatm kr dete h and waha salary 15k se zyada hoti h tabhi deduction band ho sakta h. By the way, pf deduction social security k liye achhi chiz h
Sir meri salry 13k thi mera pf tab se cut Raha hai ab meri salary bad ke 21k ho gayi hai. Per mai pf nhi cut kerwana chahta iske liye. Kiya kerna hoga sir. Plzz
Sir, Maine ek MNC may join kiya hu may 21 may due location problem I have got an another offer from Kolkata base company that I have shared all the documents they have shared offer letter I accepted it,Due 90 days of notice in mnc they are not releving in the mean time Kolkata base company they have created my pf account...How can I manage ? Kindly guide me sir . Still now I haven't accept the appointment letter.. Kindly response Sir?
Since location is different, there should not be any overlap. So, ensure that date of joining (doj) of ur new company is after date of exit of ur older company. I believe that ur new company will not be remitting any money to ur pf account before ur joining ( coz obviously they would not be paying u salary before actual joining). So, in case ur Doj (as per pf record) in ur new company has been entered as some date before ur actual joining date, then in that case u can get ur Doj modified/changed by sending physical joint request to the concerned PF office through ur new company. I don't think there will be any problem in that.
@@_webmitra thank you Sir..If I not continue to my new company which I joined in June in any legal issues is there .. because I haven't not accepted the appointment letter
As per new rules for inoperative account, a pf account continues to be operative (ie it will continue to earn interesi) till the PF member attains age of 58 years and/or till 3 years of date of exit (for pf member above 58years of age).
Sir meri last company m mene ek sal kam kiy vaha mene ek sal PF cut krvaya but meri joining ab doosri company me ho gai hai jaha CTC 3LPA hai and after PF deduction 26 in hand hai kya company k side se PF deduction optional hai kya karu mujhe PF ni katvana ha isse aage carrier me koi issue to ni hoga?
If aapne pichhle company ka pf withdraw kr liya h toh aap existing PF member nahi ho and iss scenario mn since apke new company mn salary 15k se zyada h so, pf deduction mandatory nahi h. If pichhla withdraw nahi kara h toh pf deduction mandatory h. Pf deduction ek social security h. Iska deduction ya non deduction career per koi asar nhi lata. But whenever possible, pf deduction karwana chahiye coz iske benefits bahot h. Eg- employee ke salary se 12% deduction ho rahi bt at the same time utna hi employer bhi toh de raha h. So, double paise PF account mn jaate hai. Pension and insurance benefits are additional benefits. So, investment point of view se bhi and future security ke point se bhi pf deduction is recommended.
In my previous company my PF was deducted but in new company my salary is 40k and there is no provision of PF deduction and more than 5k employees are working. Is this company is blacklisted or any other issue
If you have not ceased your pf membership ie if you have not fully withdrawn from your previous PF account then, in your new company also your PF deduction should be mandatory irrespective of your new salary. What is name and location of your new company?
There's nothing called blacklisted in PF. However, some establishments may get exemption from EPFO on the ground that they manage the PF fund of their employees on their own through their own Trust.
Bhai agr kisi ki joining salary 18000 h or wha or staff 25 h . Phir kya uska pf ktana compulsory hoga . Or agr institution nhi kaat ta h pf tho kya hum case file krskte h plz . Answer
First of all sorry for for late reply. Since waha no of employees 19 se zyada h so, uss company pr PF Act laagu hoga. Iske baad waha PF kis kis employee ka deduct hoga ye decide hoga unki entry salary aur pahle se PF membership ( if any) se. Aapke k case mn aapko entry salary 15000 se zyada h. So, if aap pahle se ( kisi aur company k thru) PF member nhi toh aapki present company aapka PF deduct kare ye compulsory nhi h. If Employer aur aap dono apasi sahmati se chahe toh pF deduct krwa sakte h..but compulsory nhi h
I m a student n would start working after 5-6 months. Sir in case I choose not to opt for EPF now(if I feel I would have better options to invest)..will I be eligible to apply for EPF after say 10 yrs?
Jaise ek bar member ban jane se reverse nai ho skta...wyse starting me EPF na choose karne se badme reverse kar sakte h? Ya fir kabhi EPF k member nai ban skte? Reverse ho skta h is case me?
See, firstly u have to see whether the pf deduction will be mandatory or optional for you. If mandatory ie in case ur salary is less than 15k then you and your company don't any choice but to get your pf deducted. But if u happen to be an excluded member ie salary greater than 15k, then ur pf deduction will be optional. You and ur company both should agree for your pf deduction to actually make u a pf member. My advice would be wherever possible, become a pf member. Being a pf member first of all, you will be getting an extra 12% of salary from company side, Of which 8.33 would be pension share. And as far as investment is concerned I don't think anyone else is offering the return that EPFO gives. Insurance Benefit is also there.
Sir advice me ek company hai jisane incorporation ke time voluntary pf register kiya tha or abhi usake pass 15 employee hai to sabka pf katna padega kya
First of all.. as per rules your new employer should also make u a pf member. If not, if you wish, you can complaint against him/her on epfigms.gov.in Now coming to your question.. your account will continue to earn interest till you withdraw it. (Account becomes in- operative ie it will stop earning interest when you attain 55 years of age).
@@_webmitra Thanks for replying...that new employer have less than 20 employee than it is not compulsory for them...so in this case my account will be active right? And after 2years if I again switch my employer then can I continue the same uan which is not in use for 2years.?
Pahle iss baat ko apne PF passbook ko dekh kar confirm ho le.. agar aisa sahi mn h toh aap PF office complaint kar sakte h. Complaint online bhi kiya ja sakta h- epfigms.gov.in per. Aapke baat ko saabit krne k liye aapke paas salary slip/bank statement jismn salary aati ho aur PF passbook sufficient hoga. Salary slip ye saabit kregi ki aapne uss time kaam kara h aur PF passbook ye saabit krega ki apka PF nhi kata h.
Hi, I am joining a new company & after salary confirmation the company saying there is a policy in epfo which can be adopted by the company in that if the employee salary is more then ₹.15000/- then the employee will not get the PF deduction in his or her Salary. I just wanted to know is there something like that
Yes ..PF deduction is mandatory for those whose salary (EPF wage) is less than or equal to 15000. For those above it's optional and depends on joint wish of employer and employee. However, if were a of member in your previous job and have not ceased it, your pf deduction is compulsory in ur new employment also irrespective of your new salary.
@@_webmitra if employees basic is 14000 his pf is deducted in x company then he move to y company with basic 20000 and y company not deducting pf..and meanwhile after spending 60 days in y company he withdraw his pf of X Company....then ??
If your Employer forces you for deduction/ non deduction against the provisions of the Act, you can register a complaint in PF office. It can be doe online at- epfigms.gov.in I would also like to add, the employer has to deposit amount equal to your share of remittances. So, Pf deduction is a financial liability for any employer. So, actually its good that he is willing to make you a PF member enabling you to have the PF befits- PF, pension, insurance.
@@_webmitra I have a much complicated issue in my scenario. I have worked in an organization where I used to be covered in PF. But the employer assigned me UAN which is reflecting completely different details. Like Correct Name Wrong Name Himanshu Negi (Me) Kumar Majumder (one of their employees)(has already his own UAN) Same is with other basic details like father's name, DOB, etc. Except the DOJ, DOL. I have filled several correction requests but this scenario is with around 80+ employees thus PF dept. is also taking time to get these stuffs corrected. Now please suggest If I should opt for the PF in my next company. I can't continue my previous UAN untill the details are rectified. I can't even opt for the new UAN (because of the KYC thing I guess). Looking forward to your revert. That will be a great help. One more question, A fresh employee joining on Basic+Other Allowance(except HRA) >15000, he than will not need to be covered in sec 1(4), right? He can either choose or reject to be covered under PF Act? Thanks in advance. Himanshu Negi
Himanshu, actually as far as what I have understood in ur case, ur previous employer has committed a mistake (blunder). In case of complete name/DOB/ father name change, things can get corrected but through offline mode and employer has to give justification and undertaking. So, in short ur problem will be solved but it may take some time.. may be around 2 months or so. Now ur querty regarding new UAN number... See, presently UAN number cannot be created without Adhar but before 2017-18, it was possible. So, if your previous uan would have been linked with adhar then, it would not have been possible to create a new UAN for you. But since ur name/dob has a mismatch in previous uan, so it is obvious that your previous UAN has not been linked to your Adhar. Hence, if so.. a new uan can be created by your new employer using your Adhar. Later on, once your previous uan details get corrected you can get your previous uan merged to new uan using form 13. section 1(4) is for companies not employees.. anyways.. I got your doubt. If a member who has never been a pf member enters a job with epf salary greater than 15k, then his/ her pf membership is optional not mandatory.
Hi..If my entry basic salary is more than 15000. Can i open PF account. My organisation is saying that i am not eligible but i want to open my pf account...
EPF is mandatory for those whose entry basic salary is less than or equal to 15000 or for those whose were a PF member before joining a new establishment. For rest it's voluntary. Since your case is not mandatory one. So, you can become a pf member only if both you and your employer agree on this.
@@_webmitra Thank u....they told me i can avail PF but the contribution from both side will deducted from my curent inhand salary. It means i have to deduct double pf amout(both from my side and employer side from my current inhand). I want suggestions from you
@@kaby8729 Para 31 of EPF Scheme, 1952 says- "Notwithstanding any contract to the contrary the employer shall not be entitled to deduct the employer's contribution from the wage of a member or otherwise to recover it from him." So, legally speaking, it will be violation of Central Act and its Scheme on part of the Employer.
Yadi pahle se pf member nahi ho toh wipro join krne pr pf member banna compulsory nahi hoga..coz salary 15k se zyada rahegi. Iske liye company join krne pr HR team se baat kr lena and Form 11 hota h.. declaration form. Usse bhar kr submit kr dena. This form declares that you are not an existing of member
@@_webmitra Helo sir,agar salary 7 ya 8k hai to kya pf deduction jaruri hai kya,agar form 11 fill kar k company ko dey diya ki m pf nhi katwana chata,kya fir b jaruri hai kya sir,please reply
its is epf wage ie sum of (basic+DA+retaining allowance+cash value of food). if other components are not being given by company then it will become (Basic+0+0+0)= Basic.
Entry salary matlab wo salary jo aapko job joining k waqt milti h. And pf mn jab salary ki baat hoti h toh salary ka matlab epf wage h... ie 4 chizo ka addition... ie basic+da+ retaining allowance (if any) + cash value of food coupons (if any)
Meri salaah toh yhi rahegi ki aap bina dare PF office mn complaint kare. But if aapko job chhotne ka dar h toh aap baad mn bhi complaint kar sakte h.. bas apne documents aap sambhal kar rakhe
THis information is given in this video is extremly help full so much details and ifs and not. This the most underrated video i have ever seen
@Web Mitra - A) If the company's employee strength is >=20 and a employee's salary is more than Rs.20000 at entry lebel, PF it compulsory or optional?
B) If the company's employee strength is less than 20 and a employee's salary is more than Rs.20000 at entry lebel, PF it compulsory or optional?
Employee strength is considered to see if the Act applies to the company or not. Once application of Act is established, then it is to see for which employee pf deduction is mandatory.
(A) if employee strength is more than 19- pf act automatically applies to the company. Bt pf deduction will be mandatory for those employee whose entry salary is less than or equal to 15k. So, for an employee whose salry is 20k, pf deduction is not mandatory. ( Provided that he is not an active pf member already)
(B) if employee strength is less than 20. In this scenario, since the Act does not apply to company (I am assuming that the company has not taken voluntary coverage ie coverage even for less than 20 employees through section 1(4)), there's no point for the coverage of its employees. So, whatever is the salary of employee, pf will not be deducted.
Thanks ...explained in detail n simple language
Hi U know form for this
I am from Lucknow
both employees and employers need to watch this video to understand PF eligibility
Thank You Very Much For This Video.....Explained in the Best Way..
Very informative bro. Keep it up 👍
Earlier i was an EPS member, now Can I opt out from EPS membership in other company/est.?
Nice
You are very great sir
प्रणाम सर,
हमारी सैलरी 18 हजार है, epf नहीं कटवाना चाहते, क्योंकि कंपनी epf ke नाम से पैसे की कटौती कर epf खाते में पैसा जमा ही नहीं कर रहा है, कृपया कोई आधार या कागज बताएं जिसको दिखा के हम Epf नहीं कटवाए। कंपनी बहुत शोषण कर रहा है😭😭
Sir, agar kisika salary 10k ho aur wo by cash wo salary employer se leta hain to kya pf mandatory hain?
PF deduction salary ke cash ya cheque hone pr depend nhi krta. If company PF mn covered hai and if salary 15k ya isse Kam hai toh PF deduction mandatory hai. Cash payment pf ki chori ka karan banta hai isliye bank account ya cheque se salary lene ki koshish rahni chahiye.
@@_webmitra thank you sir for your reply
Excellent information 👌
V nice explaination
Nice information
I m going to join one company where no PF deduction...salary above 50k..hope there is no issue to join
If new company is not registered with PF and because of this no pf deduction for you...then it's okay
Sir what to do if new company not giving pf benefits if candidate already registered in epfo and in new company his basic pay is more then 15 k
You can register your grievance with PF office online or offline.
Also, companies are required to get form-11 (ie declaration from new employees whether they are existing pf member or not). Fill the form correctly that you are already pf member. Even then if company doesn't make you pf member then this can become an evidence against its non compliance.
Sir ye btaiye kya jinki salary cash mein milti h like kisi showroom shop pr job krte ho vahan pf nhi kaat rhe hum kya legal action le skte h
Sir,My basic is 15K & PF Deduction is same from last two years company is not Increasing basic part in Increment they are Increasing other salary components Every year.in this case what I can do to increase my PF amount
Legally, an employer is bound to comply PF deduction upto 15K. Beyond that it's upon consent of both employee and employer to have surplus deduction or not.
if the employer has never had 20 or more employees. But salary of few employees is below 15000.. does he have to comply since he is paying salary of below 15000?? or it is not mandatory for him?
Not mandatory for him
Sir good video
Sir aap ESIC ka video same banavo
ESIC VS WORKMAN INSURANCE
LESS THAN 21000 LE ESIC NA KATE TO
Sir salary 21000 se kam he or esic na kate to hame total employee kr wc policy (workman policy) he
Super
Nice video
the employee is member of PF before joining our Org. but we have not deducted PF because of salary is more than 15000 now we understand that PF deduction is compulsory is employee is member of PF. so please tell us how to correct this mistake
Past benefits for the member/ employee can be remitted by employer. But the employer will have to pay 14b 7q penalty ( late remittance fine) also
@@_webmitra thanks
Hello Sir, informative video..
Ek doubt jaisa apne bataya new company me 15000 se upper salary par join kiya hai aur membership se bahar nikalne ke liye Pura PF withdrawal karna hoga... Kya sirf PF withdrawal karna hota hai ya pension bi...?
Please tell
Membership cease/ band pension withdrawal se hota h.
Sir agar 20 employee se bhi kam employee ho company ni me or salary 13000 ho to kya pf registration jaruri hai
Company ko 20 ya usse zyada employee hone pr compulsorily PF registration krwana hota hai. But if company khud chahe toh 20 se kam hone pr bhi voluntarily section 1(4) ke under PF registration krwa sakti h.
So, if aisa case hai toh kyuki aapki salary 15k se kam h toh OF deduction zaroori ho jaega
One of our employee PF was in previous company but his salary more than 35 k in our company so he do not want to deduct pf in our company. Is it possible?
If his earlier PF membership continues to be in operation (ie if he has not closed it by withdrawing full amount), then in new company also he has to be a PF member
can You please provide me the official circular?
About which provision?
Vary nice
Sir agr salary 15k se jyada h to employer tb bhi 12 percent hi dega ya employer koi max amt. Hota h ki itne tk hi dega vo?
15k tak ka contribution Dene k liye employer mazboor hai..usse zyada pr dena h ya nahi wo decide kr sakta hai
If employee already have PF UAN no. in the last organization then he left the job and join new organization and his current basic salary more than 15000 so his pf compulsory ?
Yes, if he has not ceased his previous membership by withdrawing his full amount. (Form 10C in particular)
In my previous job company have less than 20 employees that why i don't have my UAN number and my pf was not deducted and now I'm joining new one and they are asking me to compulsorily submit the UAN no. So my question is that what should I tell them in this situation? Sir kindly give me the solution
Just tell them that you dnt have a UAN number and give them your Adhar Number. Using Adhar they can create UAN and in case if any UAN is already created for you then from Adhar that UAN can also be retrieved.
Hamara contractor hamara of account nahi khol raha hai hum 13 log hai 10 saal se kaam kar rah hai ,navi mumbai municipal corporation m contract base par ,hum ky kare hamari koi sunta nahi hai
Municipal corporation mn kaam chal raha hai toh PF hona chahiye.. aap nazdidki PF kaaryalay mein shikayat darz karwa sakte hai
Sir,
आउटसोर्स के माध्यम से अभी नया कंपनी में ज्वाइन किए है, सैलरी 15 हजार से ऊपर है इसलिए हम epf नहीं कटवाना चाहते है, क्योंकि कंपनी वाले epf का पैसा समय पर जमा नहीं करते है, और epf काटने को दबाव डाल रहा है। मेरी आपसे विनती है की कोई सर्कुलर में प्वाइंट हो जिसको दिखा कर हम epf नहीं कटवाए। ईपीएफ नहीं भी कटवा सकते है इस प्रकार का कोई प्वाइंट बताकर कृपया मार्गदर्शन दें।
सबसे पहले तो मैं ये कहना चाहूंगा की पीएफ कटवाने से कर्मचारी का ही भला है क्योंकि इससे आप ईपीएफ के सभी लाभों के लिए योग्य बन जाते हैं। और यदि समस्या ये है की आपकी कंपनी आपके सैलरी से pf काटने के बाद पीएफ ऑफिस में जमा नहीं करवाती तो आप इसकी शिकायत नजदीकी पीएफ ऑफिस में कर सकते है। इस प्रकार की गड़बड़ी करने पर कंपनी प्रॉसिक्यूट हो सकती है क्योंकि ये कानून अपराध है।
और जहा तक बात है आपके पीएफ न कटवाने की इक्षा की तो यह इस बारे में नियम मैने वीडियो mn बताया ही है । यदि आप वर्तमान वाली कंपनी ज्वाइन करने से पहले पीएफ के सदस्य नही है और यदि आपकी सैलरी १५ हजार से ज्यादा है तो पीएफ कटवाना जरूरी नहीं है । इस स्तिथि में एक declaration form dena hota hai - जिसे फॉर्म ११ (ग्यारह) बोलते हैं ।
Sir meri company ne kisi b employee ko EPF me enroll nahi Kiya h, iski shikayat kisse Karu ?
Company k boss se puchunga to mujhe job se nikal denge.
Plz rply
Aap PF related compliant apne nazdiki PF office mn ja kr sakte hain. Or else PF office ke online grievance portal epfigms.gov.in/ pr apna complaint kr sakte hain
Sir meri salry 13k thi mera pf tab se cut Raha hai ab meri salary bad ke 21k ho gayi hai. Per mai pf nhi cut kerwana chahta iske liye. Kiya kerna hoga sir. Plzz
Sir koi company kisi empolyee ko tarinee me dal kar pf ko baypass kar sakta hai kya pls bataiye kyuki sayad hamre sath aisa ho raha hai kyu ki mera pahle pf kat ta tha lekin me company chor ke chala gaya tha avi phir aya to nhi kat raha hai
If Trainees ko salary di ja rahi toh Trainees ka bhi PF deduction hona compulsory h
@@_webmitra salery to di ja rahi hai lekin ab sirf employee code me badlaon pahle B code se employee code tha ab C code se hai hr bm ko puchne par bolte hai ki c code walon ka pf nhi kat ta hai kahte hai ki govt ka naya rule aisa bolte hai
In case epf act is applicable to the employer once but later on the number of employees is reduced below the limit. Now is it mandatory for the employer to deduct EPF?
Yes it will be mandatory
Ager company pf na kaate or admi 20 se jiada ho to us pe kya karvai hogi
Aap epfigms.gov.in pr supporting dastavej ke sath apna complaint kr sakte hain.
Sr meri srly 20000 hjar h mera pf phli compny me kta h lekin sr mene compny chenj krdi us compny me pf nhi kat rhe h koi smadhan h
If aapne pichle company ke pf ka Paisa nhi nikala hai..and if aapki new company pf mn registered hai toh aapki salary new company mn kitni bhi ho aapka pf katna hi chahiye. If Aisa nhi ho rha toh nazdiki pf ofc mn aap complaint kr sakte hain
Sir ager koi 20 days ek company mai kaam kre or baad mai left kr dy kisi issue ki vja sy...fir os condition mai ager oski salary aa jae pf cut kr ke toh fir ager voh kahi or job kre toh pf cut hoga....
Han ..provided ki (1)uski new company PF mn covered ho (2) and new company join krne waqt wo Form-11 mn ye declare kre ki pahle se pf member hai.
Agar ye dono condition hote h toh new company mn uski salary 15k se zyada ho ya kam pf deduction compulsory hoga.
Feer bhi bahut company pf nahi kat ti provision nahi bolti feer unpar action kyu nahi hota
Ab ye toh PF office ka kaam hai. Aggrieved ko PF office mn supporting documents k sath complaint Krna chahiye.
Agar pf poora 3600 rs. Total employee ki salary se hi kte employer kuch n de to kya kr
Online ya offline complaint kariye. Act and Schemes mn clearly likha h ki employer share employee ke salary se deduct nhi kiya ja sakta.
Pagal banare gareeb ko. Government 🤬
Sabke prayaas se hi chizo mn sudhaar ayega
Sir,
If salary is 30k, which form is to be filled to get exempted from PF?
If u are not a of member already then ur pf deduction is not mandatory.
This declaration from your side( that u are not a of member already) will be taken by your employer through Form-11.
There is no form for exemption. Actually, it's a form for declaring whether u already have a pf account or not.
@@_webmitra Can it be done if the number of employees is more than 20?
If yes how?
Agar salary 15000 se jyada hai or 20 se jyada employees kaam bhi karte hai lekin pf cut nahi hota hai to hum company pe action le sakte hai?
Yes. Aap nearest pf office mn supporting documents k sath complaint file kare. Online bhi complaint register Kiya ja sakta hai. Epfigms, cpgrms, etc online platform h complaint register karne ke
Sir, agar last companies mein pf kata ho aur abhi new company mein 10 employee ki strength se pf nahi katre ho halki salary 40k ho toh kya ye blacklist company hai? Agr pf katvana ho toh kya kar sakte hai? Aur agr pf nahi katege toh current pf account ka kya hoga?
New company PF mn registered nahi h toh fir PF nhi katega. And aapka pichhla PF account yuhi pada rah sakta hain.. timely interest milta rahega
Sir hamare hotel main 150 log work kar rahen hain usme se 80% epf kat rahain hai ,magar Mera salary 12500 hai main cash le ata hun kya dikkat hai
Apka bhi PF cut hona chahiye
@@_webmitra mandatory hai kya
agar hmari company pf na jama kare to hum kaha sampark kar sakte hai
Nazdiki PF office. Aap online complaint bhi kar sakte hai at epfigms.gov.in
श्रीमान सर हम 400+ कर्मचारी हरियाणा सरकार मे पिछले 4 साल से काम कर रहे हैं और हमारी सैलरी 35000+ हैं और हमारा कोई भी EPF और ESI मे सरकार ना हमारा पैसा काट रहीं और ना खुद का 10% पैसा कटवा रहीं क्या हम कोई लीगल कारवाई के हकदार से अपना पैसा सरकार से ले सकते हैं
Iske liye koun sa form bhara jata hai
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Sir e bataye yadi meri salary 35000 hai aur Mera isse pahle wali company me pf deduct hota tha lekin new company ni diduct kr rhi hai Kai bar bol dia but deduct ni krte to kya karen
Jis pf office mn apki new company registered hai waha complaint kare...penalty ke sath company bharegi... Online complaint bhi Kiya ja sakta hai epfigms.gov.in per
Suppose,My salary will be Rs.55,000 p.m in my next company.Last company's pf a/c I have closed.So,can I tell my next employer not to deduct any Pf and if yes,how?
Yes you may. You will have to give a declaration regarding this through form-11 to your new Employer
@@_webmitra Even if i dont deduct pf from my salary in that case the employer have to contribute his part or he is also free not to contribute?
What's if I Don't Want My PF to Get Debited?
Since, epf is mandated an an Act of parliament, it does not depends on your wish. If you fall in the mandatory category then ur of deduction will be compulsory.
Sir jo defence service me jaise Army, navy, State police unka ppf shayad date of joinning se he govt. Already cut krti h, to kya aise logo bhi post office me ppf scheme le skte h..
Post office ya bank mn jo pf jama hota h wo ppf kahlata hai. And ye epf se bilkul alag hai. Bank ya post office wale ppf mn koi bhi deposit kar sakta hai. And uske withdrawal rules aur interest epf se bilkul alag hota hain.
Meri company(ISPC) kya kese mujhe nahi pta kyoki hr or manajar bade kamine h mujhe 12500 rupay de rahe h koi pf nahi bonus nahi 18/2/2020 ki joining h or 17/7/23 ho gye h mujhe isme kaam krte 20 se jyada employee ismai work karte h wo apke is kanooni ko nahi mante hm kya kre.hm nahi denge esa khte h .pease kisi wakeel ji ka no de jo mere help kr sake.
Nazdiki PF office pr ja kar complaint karen... epfigms.gov.in per online grievance bhi daal sakte hain
Agar register me 25 hai ar duty dena hai 18 ko tab kiske under aayega 20 ya nahi section 1 (3)
20 employee hote hi PF act compulsory ho jata hai
If you're doing two jobs (both consulting and both above 50k pm salary with more than 20 staffs) and first time job kar rahe (pehle se pf account nahi tha), lekin ek me pf kat raha or dusre me nahi. To kya ek company ko dusre k bare me pata chalega? Kya ye india me illegal hai?
entry salary means pls tell pf deduct which is net salary or gross salay . tell me the include pary of salary
EPF wage = basic + da+ retaining allowance ( if any)+ cash value of food coupons (if any)
bhai pf deduction nhi karwana ho toh kya karna chahiye??
If mandatory wale rules mn aa rahe ho toh deduction compulsory h.
And my personal suggestion would be ki if possible, deduction krwana chahiye. High return, pension, insurance..ye saare advantages h. Jitna khud ki salary se deduct hoti hai utna hi employer ke side se jama hota h - ye extra hi toh hai.
Kya pf ktwana y na cutwana option hota h employee k pass , or agr Pehle cutta ho or baad m na ktwaye pf tb kya hota hai jitna paisa bhara hua hai uska kya hoga
Jo bhi employee eligible hote hai ie jinki salary 15000 ya usse kam ho / jinki pahle se PF membership ho ..unke liye PF karwana compulsory hota hai.
PF mn jama hua paisa partial ya full nikalwaya ja sakta h online form 31 ya form 19 bhar kar. Jama hue paise per government interest bhi deti h.. abhi wo 8.5% hai
Hi, i was working in mnc they manage their fund in trust, thus i cannot withdraw online, and my new organization does not provide me pf and my salary is 36k, can i use this statement that " i am not getting pf in my new organization.and get my money withdrawn From old organization?"
Yes..you can
PF is not deducting...still I need to pay Income tax?
Income tax is to be paid as per the income tax rules ie if ur taxable income is more than 5 lakhs.
I am a PF member now if I switch to a new company where PF is not provided, should I join that company? Will it effect my career?
Hey, did you get the answer. Actually my question is the same. Pls help!!
Sir meri salary abhi 30k hai, mera pf deduct nahi hota , but TDS 3000/monthly deduct hota hai, previous company me bhi 16000 salary per pf deduct nahi hota tha. Iske pahle ki company me 8000 salary per pf deduct hota tha jo mene resignation ke withdrawal kar liya mera uan no. Bhi hai , kya ab mera pf deduct karwa sakta hu.
If aap ek baar pf member ban jao toh switch karne pr if aapki salary 15k se zyada ho toh bhi aapka new conpany mn PF deduct hona chahiye. Lekin condition ye hai ki aapka purana of membership khatm nahi hua ho ie aapne withdraw nahi kara ho.
Aapke baato se aisa lag raha ki aapne withdraw kar liya h. Iss scenario since aapki salary 15k se zyada thi joining k time so aapki company pf deduct karne k liye mazboor nahi thi.
If I have a PF a/c in previous Company and do not want to close the a/c, but take up a job in an establishment with less than 20 employees and hence that Company does not deduct or contribute to PF. Is such scenario ok ? I want to continue the PF a/c since it is beneficial for future.
As u said ur new company is not covered under EPF Act, so despite of you being eligible the new company may not deduct your pf as lons as it remains uncovered. You still may not close your previous pf account and continue earning the interest at least.
@@_webmitra thanks for the reply. definitely will continue with the pf a/c not only for interest but also any future job change with a company covered by epf act
@@_webmitrahi sir, in my last 2 companies pf amount deducted and there my salary was 30k but now i got an offer where there employees ratio is 10 and they provide 40k but not deducted any pf which i really want to deduct. What if my pf is not deducted then it will be a disadvantage in the future? And what to do for the current pf account. Please help
Sir, I am an Ex- Servicemen now working in railway as contract basis and salary Rs. 23000. They are not giving PF. What can we do for?
If you are working for an contractor they have to pay you ESI and PF. I am also a railway contractor I pay ESI and PF to each and every employee. What many people do is show that their family member is working and the ESI and PF is registered on their name. Which you should have got, if your salary is less than 15k then I have to pay 12% for your PF and rest 13 percent will be paid by government. (PF percentage is 25% in railway of your base salary)
If your salary is more than 15k PF amount of 12% can be deducted from your salary and the rest 13% will be paid by the government.
On ESI you or your employer have to pay 0.75% and government will pay 3.25%.
PF deduction is mandatory for employees with salary upto 15000. If u were not an active PF member before this current job and if ur entry salary here was above 15000, then your PF is voluntary not mandatory.
@@_webmitra Not the same for Railway, those who earn less than 15,000 the employer and government pay for their ESI and PF. If some contractor doesn't pay ESI or PF amount he or she can go to jail. 12% is paid by employer and 13% from the government for PF. And for ESI 0.75% from Employer and 3.25% from the government.
@@_webmitra PF is mandatory in railway or those who are in related work to railway. Even for those whose salary is more than 15,000 rupees. My father have been paying ESI and PF for last 10 years, so we know about this a lot.
Nrhm govt health me pf nhi kata jata. Isme hazaro log hai . Delhi govt ne 500 ke karib nrhm employees ko pf suvidha de rhe hai. Oro ko nhi
EPFO ne bhi apne sabhi field office ko direction diya hai to coordinate with state authorities in this direction
@@_webmitra chor bazari chl rhi hai.jb hmare tax Kate jate hai sabki trh to sabko Milne wali suvidha bhi milni chahiye
मेरी कंपनी में 9 एम्पलाई हैं, और हमारी सैलरी ₹12000 है तो क्या PF कटना आवश्यक है? Plz reply🙏🙏
यदि आपके कंपनी में किसी भी दिन सभी प्रकार के एम्प्लॉय मिलाकर 20 एम्प्लॉय नहीं हुए है तो आपकी कंपनी पर ईपीएफ एक्ट मैंडेटरी नही है। इसलिए इस स्थिति में जब तक कंपनी ने खुद सेक्शन 1(4) में वॉलंटरी coverage ना लिया हो तो पीएफ काटना मैंडेटरी नही है।
@@_webmitra 12000 total salary h meri kya PF ktega y bty plz
If we have pf account in previous company but now i am joining new company and i want to opt out from pf can i do that..
If ur new company is covered under EPF Act and if ur entry salary is less than or equal to 15k then pf deduction is mandatory. You have no other option.
Also, if you had a pf membership and have not withdrawn that money then your new company will have to make you a pf member irrespective of your salary in your new company.
what will happen if new company was not covered under EPF ?
Sir mera 1month ka pf kata hua h kya me aprantic kr sakta hu kya
Yes
Hii sir..
I work in a company where my salary is more than 24000 but they are not deducting pf.. And only professional taxis deducted can I put the case and close the company
The company has to mandatorily deduct pf for employees with entry salary less than or equal to 15000. For employees with entry salary more than 15k, the company can deny the deduction ( provided the employee was not a PF member earlier )
What's the criteria of 15k? It is basic salary or gross salary?
EPF Wage includes 4 components -
1. Basic
2. DA
3. Retaining allowance (if any)
4. Cash Value of Food coupons (if any)
15000 salary means total salary or basic 15000
Epf wage = basic + DA+ Retaining Allowance ( if any) + cash value of food concession ( if any)
If anybody wants to work in another company while working in one company. If both company deducts pf then is there any problem with the employee. If yes then is there any solution to do that
Theoretically there's no problem. However, presently, the software of EPFO is not processing any transfer claims wherever overlap is there. So, one has to apply offline for this. And the demerit of offline is that it takes time to be processed and is on the mercy of promptness of the concerned pf office
@@_webmitra I've heard in this case both employer send notice to employee and pf account is put on hold etc ....esa hota hai kya ..?
Akash from how long you're working in two companies with pf in both...I also wanna join one more company...that's why I'm asking ..pls reply
Boss mne apni company ko bola hai ki muje pf nahi katwana band kardo to wo bol rahe h agar pf ek bar cut gya to wo cut hota rhega
Han..sahi bola h aapki company ne. Jab tak aap iss company mn ho tab tak apka pf deduction compulsory h.
If aap dusre company mn switch krte hai and join krne se pahle pichhla membership khatm kr dete h and waha salary 15k se zyada hoti h tabhi deduction band ho sakta h.
By the way, pf deduction social security k liye achhi chiz h
Sir meri salry 13k thi mera pf tab se cut Raha hai ab meri salary bad ke 21k ho gayi hai. Per mai pf nhi cut kerwana chahta iske liye. Kiya kerna hoga sir. Plzz
Sir,
Maine ek MNC may join kiya hu may 21 may due location problem I have got an another offer from Kolkata base company that I have shared all the documents they have shared offer letter I accepted it,Due 90 days of notice in mnc they are not releving in the mean time Kolkata base company they have created my pf account...How can I manage ?
Kindly guide me sir . Still now I haven't accept the appointment letter.. Kindly response Sir?
Since location is different, there should not be any overlap. So, ensure that date of joining (doj) of ur new company is after date of exit of ur older company.
I believe that ur new company will not be remitting any money to ur pf account before ur joining ( coz obviously they would not be paying u salary before actual joining).
So, in case ur Doj (as per pf record) in ur new company has been entered as some date before ur actual joining date, then in that case u can get ur Doj modified/changed by sending physical joint request to the concerned PF office through ur new company. I don't think there will be any problem in that.
@@_webmitra thank you Sir..If I not continue to my new company which I joined in June in any legal issues is there .. because I haven't not accepted the appointment letter
One member is always member ko koi circular ho to please send
You may read para 26A (1) of the EPF Scheme, 1952 which deals with retention of membership
hi, my pf account is no longer operational as no claim was made since 5 years. can i do new job without pf membership ahead?
As per new rules for inoperative account, a pf account continues to be operative (ie it will continue to earn interesi) till the PF member attains age of 58 years and/or till 3 years of date of exit (for pf member above 58years of age).
Sir meri last company m mene ek sal kam kiy vaha mene ek sal PF cut krvaya but meri joining ab doosri company me ho gai hai jaha CTC 3LPA hai and after PF deduction 26 in hand hai kya company k side se PF deduction optional hai kya karu mujhe PF ni katvana ha isse aage carrier me koi issue to ni hoga?
If aapne pichhle company ka pf withdraw kr liya h toh aap existing PF member nahi ho and iss scenario mn since apke new company mn salary 15k se zyada h so, pf deduction mandatory nahi h. If pichhla withdraw nahi kara h toh pf deduction mandatory h. Pf deduction ek social security h. Iska deduction ya non deduction career per koi asar nhi lata. But whenever possible, pf deduction karwana chahiye coz iske benefits bahot h. Eg- employee ke salary se 12% deduction ho rahi bt at the same time utna hi employer bhi toh de raha h. So, double paise PF account mn jaate hai. Pension and insurance benefits are additional benefits. So, investment point of view se bhi and future security ke point se bhi pf deduction is recommended.
agar kisi employee ko jo one year se kaam kar raha hai registered nahi kiya to use ab epf me registered kar sakte hai date of joining se? Please reply
Han. Bt company ko section 14B aur 7Q ki penalty bhi lagegi
In my previous company my PF was deducted but in new company my salary is 40k and there is no provision of PF deduction and more than 5k employees are working. Is this company is blacklisted or any other issue
If you have not ceased your pf membership ie if you have not fully withdrawn from your previous PF account then, in your new company also your PF deduction should be mandatory irrespective of your new salary.
What is name and location of your new company?
@@_webmitra Ienergizer in noida
There's nothing called blacklisted in PF. However, some establishments may get exemption from EPFO on the ground that they manage the PF fund of their employees on their own through their own Trust.
Bhai agr kisi ki joining salary 18000 h or wha or staff 25 h . Phir kya uska pf ktana compulsory hoga . Or agr institution nhi kaat ta h pf tho kya hum case file krskte h plz . Answer
First of all sorry for for late reply.
Since waha no of employees 19 se zyada h so, uss company pr PF Act laagu hoga. Iske baad waha PF kis kis employee ka deduct hoga ye decide hoga unki entry salary aur pahle se PF membership ( if any) se.
Aapke k case mn aapko entry salary 15000 se zyada h. So, if aap pahle se ( kisi aur company k thru) PF member nhi toh aapki present company aapka PF deduct kare ye compulsory nhi h. If Employer aur aap dono apasi sahmati se chahe toh pF deduct krwa sakte h..but compulsory nhi h
Thanks sir mhje lga nhi tha ki aap ache s reply dege. I'm sorry m glt tha.
I m a student n would start working after 5-6 months. Sir in case I choose not to opt for EPF now(if I feel I would have better options to invest)..will I be eligible to apply for EPF after say 10 yrs?
Jaise ek bar member ban jane se reverse nai ho skta...wyse starting me EPF na choose karne se badme reverse kar sakte h? Ya fir kabhi EPF k member nai ban skte? Reverse ho skta h is case me?
See, firstly u have to see whether the pf deduction will be mandatory or optional for you. If mandatory ie in case ur salary is less than 15k then you and your company don't any choice but to get your pf deducted.
But if u happen to be an excluded member ie salary greater than 15k, then ur pf deduction will be optional. You and ur company both should agree for your pf deduction to actually make u a pf member.
My advice would be wherever possible, become a pf member. Being a pf member first of all, you will be getting an extra 12% of salary from company side, Of which 8.33 would be pension share. And as far as investment is concerned I don't think anyone else is offering the return that EPFO gives. Insurance Benefit is also there.
Sir advice me ek company hai jisane incorporation ke time voluntary pf register kiya tha or abhi usake pass 15 employee hai to sabka pf katna padega kya
Excluded employee ko chhodkar rest sabhi eligible employee ka pf deduction compulsory hain.
Excluded employee matlab jinki entry salary 15k se zyada hai
जिनकी सैलरी 18 हज़ार है क्या उनका भी पी एफ काटना कंपल्सरी हैँ
यदि पहले से पीएफ सदस्य नहीं है और कंपनी ज्वाइन करने टाइम सैलरी १८ हज़ार (यानी १५००० से ज़्यादा) है तो पीएफ काटना कंपलसरी नहीं है।
I'm already member of PF and my new employer is not willing to provide PF then what will happen to my PF account.
First of all.. as per rules your new employer should also make u a pf member. If not, if you wish, you can complaint against him/her on epfigms.gov.in
Now coming to your question.. your account will continue to earn interest till you withdraw it. (Account becomes in- operative ie it will stop earning interest when you attain 55 years of age).
@@_webmitra Thanks for replying...that new employer have less than 20 employee than it is not compulsory for them...so in this case my account will be active right?
And after 2years if I again switch my employer then can I continue the same uan which is not in use for 2years.?
Yes. You can
@@_webmitra thank you 😊
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I have 6 employees . Can i registration pf + esi?
Yes. You can register for voluntary coverage under section 1(4) of the EPF Act.
Sir ji me jis company me kaam karta hu wha pe wo log apni marzi se katte hai kabhi jma karte hai our kabhi nhi to mujhe kya karna cahiye pls. Bataye
Pahle iss baat ko apne PF passbook ko dekh kar confirm ho le.. agar aisa sahi mn h toh aap PF office complaint kar sakte h. Complaint online bhi kiya ja sakta h- epfigms.gov.in per. Aapke baat ko saabit krne k liye aapke paas salary slip/bank statement jismn salary aati ho aur PF passbook sufficient hoga. Salary slip ye saabit kregi ki aapne uss time kaam kara h aur PF passbook ye saabit krega ki apka PF nhi kata h.
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Hi, I am joining a new company & after salary confirmation the company saying there is a policy in epfo which can be adopted by the company in that if the employee salary is more then ₹.15000/- then the employee will not get the PF deduction in his or her Salary. I just wanted to know is there something like that
Yes ..PF deduction is mandatory for those whose salary (EPF wage) is less than or equal to 15000. For those above it's optional and depends on joint wish of employer and employee. However, if were a of member in your previous job and have not ceased it, your pf deduction is compulsory in ur new employment also irrespective of your new salary.
@@_webmitra thank you for the response.
@@_webmitra if employees basic is 14000 his pf is deducted in x company then he move to y company with basic 20000 and y company not deducting pf..and meanwhile after spending 60 days in y company he withdraw his pf of X Company....then ??
Sir if my entery salary is more than 15000 and still employer force to deduct pf without giving any option than what i can do
If your Employer forces you for deduction/ non deduction against the provisions of the Act, you can register a complaint in PF office. It can be doe online at- epfigms.gov.in
I would also like to add, the employer has to deposit amount equal to your share of remittances. So, Pf deduction is a financial liability for any employer. So, actually its good that he is willing to make you a PF member enabling you to have the PF befits- PF, pension, insurance.
@@_webmitra I have a much complicated issue in my scenario. I have worked in an organization where I used to be covered in PF. But the employer assigned me UAN which is reflecting completely different details. Like
Correct Name Wrong Name
Himanshu Negi (Me) Kumar Majumder (one of their employees)(has already his own UAN)
Same is with other basic details like father's name, DOB, etc. Except the DOJ, DOL. I have filled several correction requests but this scenario is with around 80+ employees thus PF dept. is also taking time to get these stuffs corrected.
Now please suggest If I should opt for the PF in my next company. I can't continue my previous UAN untill the details are rectified. I can't even opt for the new UAN (because of the KYC thing I guess).
Looking forward to your revert. That will be a great help.
One more question, A fresh employee joining on Basic+Other Allowance(except HRA) >15000, he than will not need to be covered in sec 1(4), right? He can either choose or reject to be covered under PF Act?
Thanks in advance.
Himanshu Negi
Himanshu, actually as far as what I have understood in ur case, ur previous employer has committed a mistake (blunder). In case of complete name/DOB/ father name change, things can get corrected but through offline mode and employer has to give justification and undertaking. So, in short ur problem will be solved but it may take some time.. may be around 2 months or so.
Now ur querty regarding new UAN number... See, presently UAN number cannot be created without Adhar but before 2017-18, it was possible. So, if your previous uan would have been linked with adhar then, it would not have been possible to create a new UAN for you. But since ur name/dob has a mismatch in previous uan, so it is obvious that your previous UAN has not been linked to your Adhar. Hence, if so.. a new uan can be created by your new employer using your Adhar.
Later on, once your previous uan details get corrected you can get your previous uan merged to new uan using form 13.
section 1(4) is for companies not employees.. anyways.. I got your doubt. If a member who has never been a pf member enters a job with epf salary greater than 15k, then his/ her pf membership is optional not mandatory.
@@_webmitra sir I'm having the same problem previous UAN number is not available should I ask my employment to create a new UAN number ?
What will be benifit of deduction pf
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Dear sir ,
How can I search Sec 1(3) and 1(4) Kindly send link
www.epfindia.gov.in/site_docs/PDFs/Downloads_PDFs/EPFAct1952.pdf
Meri slry 12000 hai kya main eligible hoon epf ke liye
If aapki company registered hai EPFO mein toh aap bilkul eligible hain
Hi..If my entry basic salary is more than 15000. Can i open PF account. My organisation is saying that i am not eligible but i want to open my pf account...
EPF is mandatory for those whose entry basic salary is less than or equal to 15000 or for those whose were a PF member before joining a new establishment. For rest it's voluntary. Since your case is not mandatory one. So, you can become a pf member only if both you and your employer agree on this.
@@_webmitra Thank u....they told me i can avail PF but the contribution from both side will deducted from my curent inhand salary. It means i have to deduct double pf amout(both from my side and employer side from my current inhand). I want suggestions from you
@@kaby8729 Para 31 of EPF Scheme, 1952 says- "Notwithstanding any contract to the contrary the employer shall not be entitled to
deduct the employer's contribution from the wage of a member or otherwise to recover it from him."
So, legally speaking, it will be violation of Central Act and its Scheme on part of the Employer.
@@_webmitra Thank you very much for your advice 😊
Bhai Meri Salary 7 LPA Hai, mujhe 1 Jan Ko Join Karna hai Wipro Main, Mujhe PF nhi Katwana hai, Koi Suggestion Do Yar..
Yadi pahle se pf member nahi ho toh wipro join krne pr pf member banna compulsory nahi hoga..coz salary 15k se zyada rahegi.
Iske liye company join krne pr HR team se baat kr lena and Form 11 hota h.. declaration form. Usse bhar kr submit kr dena. This form declares that you are not an existing of member
@@_webmitra Helo sir,agar salary 7 ya 8k hai to kya pf deduction jaruri hai kya,agar form 11 fill kar k company ko dey diya ki m pf nhi katwana chata,kya fir b jaruri hai kya sir,please reply
My job bpcl contract job my salary 14000 20 year service 3 year PF redacted 10 year no reduced no addar link no un number clear
My entry salary is 15000 then i m eligible or not for pf ?
Yes. You are eligible
Is this 15000 salary, basic or total salary ?
its is epf wage ie sum of (basic+DA+retaining allowance+cash value of food). if other components are not being given by company then it will become (Basic+0+0+0)= Basic.
Entry salary matlbb gross salary
Entry salary matlab wo salary jo aapko job joining k waqt milti h. And pf mn jab salary ki baat hoti h toh salary ka matlab epf wage h... ie 4 chizo ka addition... ie basic+da+ retaining allowance (if any) + cash value of food coupons (if any)
Sir mene salary slip me dekha hai isi liye aapse pucha lekin agar me unki comlent karuga to mujhe job se bhi hta dege
Meri salaah toh yhi rahegi ki aap bina dare PF office mn complaint kare. But if aapko job chhotne ka dar h toh aap baad mn bhi complaint kar sakte h.. bas apne documents aap sambhal kar rakhe