How to Store Ammunition for Long Periods of Time

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  • čas přidán 12. 04. 2020

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  • @blakedavis2447
    @blakedavis2447 Před 3 lety +120

    Step 1 put ammo in can
    Step 2 close can
    Step three put can in an appropriate location
    Optional desiccant packet may be applied after every bag of tactical beef jerky consumed

    • @petergriffin383
      @petergriffin383 Před 2 lety +5

      You're absolutely right, but its best to use new desiccant packs that change color when saturated, they're cheap. Often times the packs that come in jerky and other packages are already saturated and there's no way to tell.

    • @pauljconroysr4080
      @pauljconroysr4080 Před rokem

      @@petergriffin383 very true and you can make you own as well with the cat litter desiccant and that will change color and if god forbid you ever need to dry it out more just bake in the oven at low tow 150-200 for about an hour

    • @lispendens
      @lispendens Před 10 měsíci

      pretty sure you just boil the packet and can reuse but research that before trying pls

    • @vaejoviscarolinanus
      @vaejoviscarolinanus Před 8 měsíci +1

      I have the metal 50 caliber cans ( but not the military) , I got them from tractor supply some for $4 years ago and now $10. I have the cardboard box inside them and they are not opened in a long time. The room is climate controlled.

    • @someweeb4110
      @someweeb4110 Před 5 měsíci

      Leave in OG cardboard box or dump em out?
      Only thing im torn on and can't find solid info on

  • @barry5402
    @barry5402 Před 4 lety +139

    I keep my ammo in the cardboard boxes they come with and I store them in metal cans with 40 gram silica packs. I have over 10k rounds and I've been doing this for about 5 years now. All of my ammo remain new like the day I bought them. I think cardboard only becomes an issue if you don't store them properly. Thanks for the informative video.

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +18

      That sounds correct to me! If you properly take care of what the cardboard is stored in it should be fine. I just prefer not to because of that slight chance for moisture contamination. But you're right, when you do it correctly it shouldn't be an issue.

    • @RockHudrock
      @RockHudrock Před 4 lety +15

      YES!!! Keep your ammo in original boxes, inside .30 cal or .50 cal cans. NOT PLASTIC AMMO CANS. THOSE ARE PERMEABLE! Use a hand-warmer or O2 absorber. Those absorb oxygen and moisture, because they contain iron. The original boxes, as long as they aren't moist, will protect the ammo!!!

    • @kongvang5359
      @kongvang5359 Před 4 lety +5

      @@RockHudrock wow thanks for the hand warmer tip. I've been only using the silica packs by itself so far.

    • @dam1120
      @dam1120 Před 3 lety +1

      @@RockHudrock If you don't mind me asking what is hand warmer or O2 absorber? Are you talking the silica gel packs I was told to make not buy? Thank you

    • @PrezVeto
      @PrezVeto Před 3 lety +1

      @@dam1120 An O_2 absorber will absorb oxygen (obvs). Silica gel absorbs water vapor (humidity). Two different approaches to minimizing corrosion.

  • @2009Berghof
    @2009Berghof Před rokem +37

    My suggestion for storing ammo: Do not have them haul off your old freezer or refrigerator. Cut off the cord (after unplugging it), and use it to store your ammo. Add a couple of hinges and padlocks and you have an insulated metal ammo storage locker for almost free.

    • @Randanator65
      @Randanator65 Před rokem +3

      Think ima do that i got an extra frig was wondering what to do with

    • @Dead_Again1313
      @Dead_Again1313 Před rokem

      Awesome idea!

    • @lispendens
      @lispendens Před 10 měsíci +1

      Idiot advice. Because what if when you are drunk or stoned you open the wrong fridge? i want snacks when i’m drunk or high not a fridge full of 45 acp

    • @oneshothunter9877
      @oneshothunter9877 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@lispendens
      Put a drawing of bullets and food on the refrigerator doors.
      Don't eat your bullets.

    • @lispendens
      @lispendens Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@oneshothunter9877 That’s a smart idea. Thanks

  • @squidballs2324
    @squidballs2324 Před 4 lety +48

    If you are storing loose ammo in a box, you can take the part of the cardboard packaging with all the ammo information on it and put it on top of the pile like a business card, then close the lid. You will not have to wonder what exact type of ammo are in there.

    • @clarkkent4991
      @clarkkent4991 Před 4 lety +2

      I do that and it works great for me. Plus keeps prying eyes out of your bizness!

    • @John5.56
      @John5.56 Před 2 lety +6

      A little piece of duct tape and a sharpie also works lol

    • @Urbaneism
      @Urbaneism Před rokem

      Good idea

  • @briced.hornback1062
    @briced.hornback1062 Před 4 lety +26

    I have a box of .32 that is dated 1942 (for Walther PPK). Still works great... just keep it in the original box inside my gun safe.

    • @a.jennings4664
      @a.jennings4664 Před rokem

      Yeah, people overthink ammo storage...it's not dynamite.. I have ammo I bought in 1975 that is stored in the original boxes and then stored in a larger boxes in my closets. They shoot just fine and the chrono speed is very close to those advertised on the box. Just store it in a cool dry place in a low humidity environment and you'll be fine.

  • @Grantthetruthteller
    @Grantthetruthteller Před 4 lety +43

    Metal ammo can as shown is my choice with ammo in original boxes. I also put in an Eva-dry moisture eliminator packets (1 half pound packet per can). I also put Vaseline on the o-ring to protect it from drying out and to improve the seal.

    • @tjlovesrachel
      @tjlovesrachel Před 3 lety +28

      Good idea... but Vaseline is petroleum based... petroleum products degrade rubber... use either silicone spray or 100% silicone grease

    • @John5.56
      @John5.56 Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah silicone would be preferable over anything with petrol

  • @RockHudrock
    @RockHudrock Před 4 lety +44

    Keep a SPREADSHEET with your ammo purchases so that you know
    How much you have, HOW OLD, WHAT CALIBERS, TYPE (FMJ, HP). So that you can rotate your ammo.

    • @dam1120
      @dam1120 Před 3 lety +2

      @Bob Sullivan Oh I like this idea. I'm so anal it would work perfectly for me. I drive my daughter nuts with all my spreadsheets and such. Thank you.

    • @walkerpublications4418
      @walkerpublications4418 Před 3 lety +1

      Very helpful.

    • @adamsholi5797
      @adamsholi5797 Před rokem

      Great idea

    • @frankedgar6694
      @frankedgar6694 Před 3 měsíci

      Or, uses different cans for different ammo, write the date purchased on the box and put it in the appropriate can. I also use a marker to label the top, both ends and both sides of the can with grain weight since I only have 9mm.
      I like the spread sheet idea but I’d never keep it up to date. For me, ammo cans are a visual representation of what I have.
      I like some folks, I can’t afford thousands of rounds when I buy ammo and I shoot too much to ever have much over a couple thousand rounds.

  • @John-ty8pq
    @John-ty8pq Před 4 lety +40

    Use a cup of rice if you don't have silica absorber. Rice draws moisture from salt to keep salt dry.... just saying..

    • @roystevens6760
      @roystevens6760 Před 3 lety +3

      100% right. I use 1 cup of rice in an old nylon sock spread it flat in my ammo can and pile it in. I also like to use ammo bags even zip lock bags of 50 rounds. that way I know how much ammo is in the can. I also put a pencil and paper in the can with caliber and amount. That way as you use it you know what you have.

    • @roystevens6760
      @roystevens6760 Před 3 lety +3

      100% right that's why they put a wet cell phone in rice to draw the moisture out. I do the same for my electronic gear stored in ammo cans as well. Oh a side note lol. Wrapping electronics in heavy aluminum foil and taped close even protects against lets say an EMP?

    • @Nattleby
      @Nattleby Před 3 lety +7

      Roy Stevens I just keep my ammo in the cats litter box. Keeps her bone dry. The only sucky part is digging it out. “ ammo, ammo, not ammo, ammo....”
      Actually seriously if you get the pure crystal cat litter that they sell, I forgot what the brand is, It’s pure silica gel and you can make your own dessicants.

    • @anthonyintrieri3329
      @anthonyintrieri3329 Před 3 lety +2

      Pine shavings wrapped in cheesecloth and tossed in the can work great.

  • @clintlewis1715
    @clintlewis1715 Před 2 lety +11

    First, I'm going to say, the ammo in that Remington box is only tarnished (that's not corrosion) and really not even that badly tarnished. While speaking about tarnish, ever cartridge you've touched with you bare hands, is going to tarnish over time too. Again, that isn't going to hurt the ammo at all, but if you are worried about tarnished ammo, the body oils on your hands is going to cause tarnish. Honestly, the best option is the surplus ammo cans. I've been storing for years and only use surplus ammo cans. Nothing I've seen stacks better. You can take it a step further, by using zip-loc bags. I recommend freezer zip-loc bags as they are heavier duty. I store in equal predetermined amounts, with a desiccant pack in each bag. Then I stack them in the ammo cans, so they work like battle packs or range bags. Just grab the number of bags you intend to shoot at the range. I do not wear gloves when bagging and canning ammo, because being a military vet, tarnished ammo does not bother me at all and its going to take a long time before you even notice the tarnishing caused by your skin oils. Some people will freak out about handling ammo without gloves, but hey, if they want to be that anal about it, more power to them.

    • @johnnyjohnson1326
      @johnnyjohnson1326 Před rokem

      I wear gloves when loading mags to eliminate "prints".
      I'm an old Grunt and learned a long time ago that tarnish doesn't equal bad.

  • @thetexasrat
    @thetexasrat Před 6 měsíci +3

    A warning about silica packs. They will draw the moisture out of the cartridges when sealed up with them. Not good, as powder comes from the factory with 40-50% humidity in single base, and 50-60% humidity in the double base powders. When the reloading manuals give a powder charge weight it is with the moisture include in the weight. So it is with the factory ammo as well. If one dries the powder out, the rounds will be hotter than originally planned. In maximum (especially +P and +P+) loads it can become dangerous. And yes moisture can seep into a loaded round, as well as back out again depending on the humidity level out side the cartridge if given a month or so, unless one seals the round with sealant. Hence it is best to store ammo, powder, and primers in a controlled environment of say 49-58% humidity. This can be done within the sealed ammo cans by putting a Boveda 49% or 58% Two-Way Humidity Control Pack. Or one could store them in a Cigar Humidor cabinet that is both Humidity and temperature controlled.
    I personally stored my ammo in IP-65 rated boxes with silica packs in them, with Bluetooth temp and humidity monitors to boot. Within days the humidity levels were around 28%. Not good if left that way for extended amounts of time. I have since taken the packs out and replaced them with the two way humidity control packs. Now things are as should be.
    chronoplotter.com/2021/08/19/how-does-humidity-affect-powder/
    bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2008/09/tech-tip-humidity-can-change-powder-burn-rates/
    czcams.com/video/pzDHRwi3QVk/video.html

  • @lukaszimmermann2215
    @lukaszimmermann2215 Před 4 lety +9

    As long as ammo is cool and dry 50 years + storage is no problem.
    I use military ammo cans and i seal the ammo packs in vacum bags.

  • @thrivealist9458
    @thrivealist9458 Před 7 měsíci

    Watching your channel grow over the years has been a real treat. One of my favorite things to do is toss on some of your older content while I’m tinkering around the shop.

  • @kevinsloan3019
    @kevinsloan3019 Před 4 lety +1

    great info!!! i build aluminum signs and had a bunch of scrap laying around and made some boxes to fit the plastic shell holders and got rid or the cardboard boxes they stack neatly into a 50 cal can!! i really out did myself on this one lol works great for reloading to!!

  • @kevinofulm126
    @kevinofulm126 Před 4 lety +5

    For any of you in the hvac industry (or know someone who is. .. you could simply tap the side of your container (that has o-rings at least) with a refrigeration valve fitting (making sure that it's properly sealed) and connect it to your vacuum pump over night. That should keep ammo bone dry for a long time. As long as your seals hold up.
    Great video you got me thinking. ...

    • @Petem7668
      @Petem7668 Před 3 lety +1

      Please tell us more

    • @ranger178
      @ranger178 Před 2 lety +1

      i doubt most ammo cans are going to that tight of a seal and if you could remove air it could mess with sealed bullets which have air pressure inside

  • @ernestwalden3894
    @ernestwalden3894 Před 3 lety

    Very helpful video. I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge. What I allways do is every time I go to range for a little RnR. I shoot my old ammo and replace it with new ammo.

  • @richardmartinez1628
    @richardmartinez1628 Před 2 lety

    This answered all my questions. Thank you!

  • @byrondaniels421
    @byrondaniels421 Před 2 lety

    Excellent information that addresses all the issues. Thanks you!

  • @jakerandall24
    @jakerandall24 Před 3 lety +1

    This is the first video of yours I've seen, good breakdown!

  • @jonathanfriedman8343
    @jonathanfriedman8343 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Interesting video, but some corrections.:
    The rubber seal around the top is not an “o-ring”, it’s a gasket. Two very different animals.
    Silica and oxygen absorbers do not cancel each other. Silica absorbs moisture, oxygen absorbers obviously absorb oxygen. The latter has nothing to do with moisture and is typically used to prolong the life of food and some drugs. No benefit for ammo storage.

  • @nightshadefern162
    @nightshadefern162 Před 4 lety +6

    The good videos just keep rolling. Keep of up!
    One word of caution for the crowd: don’t assume WD40 is good for wiping down the ammo can. It’s literally worse than leaving it dry. It eats the brass coating off of shotgun shell bases and reacts to the seams on rifle rounds= green gunk reaction. I learned that one the hard way.
    For a super cheap but darn good ammo can, its hard to beat a used 1 gallon paint can. I burn any old residual paint out, and give the whole thing a good coat of spray paint. Put two layers of zip lock bags in, fill them up. Resist the urge to silicone or caulk the lid- a dry fit is better. I’ve buried these (not with ammo) for several years continuously and not had them leak or rust through.
    And finally, the one step up in size from the 50 cal can has a lid that completely removes, a latch at each end. Its about twice the capacity of a 50 cal. I just like them because the don’t tip backwards. And hold more :D. They are often priced at about .50 cal can prices.

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +3

      Great advice and good feedback! I didn't go over many of the other options out there as I assume most people will just go out and buy some kind of storage can. However, the alternative methods like your paint can technique do work! Just like those capped off PVC pipes. Yes WD40 is harsher then most people realize. It's like Hoppes #9. It does a great job of cleaning but, it can eat the finish off of something if you let it. That's why I like the silicone cloths. They seem pretty mild.

    • @chuychubasquino2957
      @chuychubasquino2957 Před 4 lety +1

      WD 40 is garbage from the 70's or 80's
      I think. I found a can of it that made it's way into my house, and I promptly put it where it belongs, in the trash.

  • @jonathanwilliams1983
    @jonathanwilliams1983 Před 4 lety +5

    Your sub count is growing quick. Appreciate your hard work.

  • @WorldwideBushcraftSurvival

    Cardboard isn't as bad as most people think. It is much better than using silicone packets, actually. Cardboard absorbs humidity extremely well while dispersing the moisture through the box folds. It really only becomes a problem when stored in air-tight boxes and that is only an issue if moisture can get into those containers. I still have about 700 rounds of XM193 from 1997 still left that I am finally going through and they have been sitting in a closet since 2003. Brass will oxidize regardless of the cardboard. Oxygen will do that. I have thousands of rounds lose in cans, while others are vacuum sealed, and thousands more in the original boxes and all shoot the same. The trick is to keep them in a dry and cool environment. That is really the only rule of thumb needed for long-term storage. Good video, though. Just earned another sub.

  • @thefirespectrum
    @thefirespectrum Před 4 lety +6

    I sealed ammo in double-sealed food saver bags inside ammo cans with rice about 8-10 years ago when I first started prepping. Almost all the bags were no longer sealed when I inventoried this year. I don't know if it's the seal or the plastic, but they didn't stay vacuum packed over the long haul. I realized it was just reducing the number of rounds that fit in a can by half or more, so I've abandoned the practice and just store in ammo cans with dessicant packets or loose rice. But I agree that it has its utility to store extra ammo in the field, especially if you expect to be exposed to the weather.

  • @roberte6641
    @roberte6641 Před 4 lety +20

    I always use military ammo cans. I also use zip lock bags inside the cans. I mark the bags with the total amount and anything else that's useful. Seems to work for me.

    • @mikeschnabel6572
      @mikeschnabel6572 Před 3 lety +2

      Robert E I have done the same , zip lock bags inside ammo can

    • @ricksmith7232
      @ricksmith7232 Před 2 lety +2

      But if there would be moisture in those zip lock bags, wouldn’t that age the ammo more quickly?

    • @petergriffin383
      @petergriffin383 Před 2 lety

      @@ricksmith7232 desiccant packs inside zip lock bag

    • @dennishelferich8335
      @dennishelferich8335 Před 2 lety

      This is exactly what I did yesterday. I emptied all my little cardboard boxes of ammo into zip lock bags seperated by brand and caliber marked each bag then I put the smaller bags into a bigger zip lock bag and then into a plastic ammo can then stored them in a day cabinet.

  • @contactexperiencer57
    @contactexperiencer57 Před 4 lety +3

    For really long term storage I use the 50 cal military boxes. When read to store bulk ammo I use dry nitrogen forced into van as I shut it. This displaces the oxygen out. Mind you I use pressure dry nitrogen using an AC charging hose. This has worked great for years on end. As long as you don’t open the can.

  • @trava4156
    @trava4156 Před 3 lety +8

    I’ve seen military ammo cans rust btw. So don’t just bury them as is, or leave them out too long. But they are the shit

  • @knottheory79220
    @knottheory79220 Před 4 lety +17

    I think something like this is more important if you have a very large supply, or you are caching it somewhere. For a lot of people like me, just leaving it in the box (though I put the boxes in cans) and shooting the old stuff first works just fine. Ammunition which isn't even taken care of will last for decades, it's pretty stable stuff.

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +3

      I agree that it can definitely last. And ammo is pretty resilient. You are right though about having a larger than average supply. It does require additional storage measures. It really is surprising how those old world war I rounds will still go off when they find old stockpiles!

    • @dam1120
      @dam1120 Před 3 lety +3

      @John Smith How does one afford 10k plus? I cant even get 1k 9mm they want like $50-$65 a box that is nuts! My dream is to have 1k of 9mm range practice and 1k of .38 special in my home but it wont happen at this rate.

    • @ahargreave
      @ahargreave Před 3 lety +1

      @@dam1120 I just keep a watch on gunbroker . com and monitor auctions. Every once in a while you'll find a "deal".

    • @ivymike3459
      @ivymike3459 Před 2 lety

      @@dam1120 Most reloaders who shoot frequently keep 1000’s of rounds stored for long term. The cans are great for new brass, powder and primer storage. I myself keep 5000 rounds for each cartridge I shoot/reload and also 2000 pcs of new/once fired brass. A minimum of 20#’s of propellant is my low water mark.
      If you don’t reload or shoot 1000 rnds a month, be patient and wait for deals. If you do shoot that much, I’d highly recommend reloading. The only rounds I don’t reload are 12ga shells. YMMV. 👍

    • @John5.56
      @John5.56 Před 2 lety

      @@dam1120 Most people accumulate that amount over years or stocked up before all the ammo crazes going on. Buy a box or two of ammo a pay and put it back, 1000 rounds will come pretty quickly. Also hit up local stores as well as look online you’ll run into deals on bulk stuff every once and awhile

  • @tedwilliams8766
    @tedwilliams8766 Před rokem +1

    when looking for ammo cans, take a dollar bill close the lid on it, half in half out, and it you can pull that bill freely or with very little resistance, look for a different can. if you cant move the bill or if it pulls hard, you have a can with a good seal. i get strange looks from people when im testing the seal and gotten questions so i shared my thoughts. sure, the oring is there and sure theres the latch BUT the bill shows if the can or lid is warped affecting the seal.
    my 2 pennies.

  • @colinmckim4515
    @colinmckim4515 Před 3 lety +4

    The 40mm ammo cans are my favorites. Holds a lot and stacks well. .50 or .30 cans for going to the range

    • @jtrourke667
      @jtrourke667 Před 2 lety

      Ammo can size is subjective, same with water cans. Many people don't consider the overall weight of the item and who might be carrying them. If you're significant other, persons in your party, or you have younger / older persons, in a SHTF situation, you may need to move and need to consider the weight they can carry comfortably... Last thing I want is to be the only one loading up a vehicle cause everything is too heavy for others to handle.

  • @scottzike1054
    @scottzike1054 Před 4 lety +4

    Very hard to beat a clean well kept .50 cal can with a couple medium silica bead bags in it .. have stuff 10 years old here in the desert .. Scott

  • @sniffmoneyArmsAndAmmo
    @sniffmoneyArmsAndAmmo Před 4 lety +3

    Great info and tips for ammo storage....good vid 👍💪🙏🇺🇸

  • @mattf1787
    @mattf1787 Před 2 lety

    Love the rationale for your guidance. Personally like the silica more too, especially because the silica beads can be "recharged" by microwaving!

    • @ranger178
      @ranger178 Před 2 lety +1

      you need to bake them in a dry oven preferably electric for long slow heat to dry them back out and recharge them not microwaving

  • @broznkyra4853
    @broznkyra4853 Před 4 lety +1

    As long as its kept dry, it'll be fine...I keep mine in GI ammo boxes..I pack myb reloads is freezer Ziploc bags in quantities of 100 ea in the ammo cans...I've kept them in my garage..in So FL with absolutely no problems...I've got large quantities of old milsurp ammo from my days as a collector of C&R in their original crates...the ammo and crates were designed for long term storage...

  • @joshuadicken5772
    @joshuadicken5772 Před rokem

    Loved this video! I myself use strictly ammo cans without any type of desiccant but that is only because I store my ammo in the location I live which is literally the desert. I "keep it organized" via per ammo can itself with some quick writing on tape dump in the rounds and lock it up in my safe that is already temp/humidity controlled. Awesome video though!

  • @steveturansky9031
    @steveturansky9031 Před 2 lety

    Although I have a couple plastic cans, I use mostly metal 50cal cans (65%) and 30cal cans (30%). I store in the mfg boxes and fill as full as I can with the same caliber (except for a couple working/range cans that have mixed caliber). I use several desiccant packets right on top so they are accessible for recharging (in oven). Whatever the volume the desiccant packets are rated for, I use about 5x that amount of packets. I bought hundreds on Amazon. (Note - some are not rechargeable and melt in the oven so find the good ones and buy them in bulk). When it's time (2-3 years) for new packets, I dry replacements packets (recharge) in the oven first, then remove and replace the packets all in one shot. At that time I dry the old packets and store them in an extra 30 cal box. I always dry the packets before they go in with ammo.
    Years ago I got a good deal on plastic boxes (about 30% bigger than 50cal cans). Most of those I now use for tools, parts, med kits, range box, etc. They have a good gasket but if I fill them with ammo, they are too heavy which also makes them flex too much.
    Note - If you are near a military base, you might be able to get slighly used metal cans after they've been emptied at the range. I hooked up with a Marine that collected the used cans and sold them for $4 each.

  • @lesliehoops6749
    @lesliehoops6749 Před 4 lety +3

    I use plastic boxes from Harbor Freight, silica packs mostly from medicine, write the purchase date on the box with a marker

  • @dan0711123
    @dan0711123 Před 3 lety +2

    Look up "shooting vintage ammunition ' on Y/T. 100 to 150 years old improperly stored ammo shoots just fine

  • @MSGBlair
    @MSGBlair Před 2 lety

    I personally use .50 cal metal storage cans. I keep the ammunition in its factory cardboard box plus add desiccant pellets in organza bags. I have used that method for 35 years and I still have serviceable ammo from 35 years ago. I use desiccant that changes color when saturated.

  • @thomaseynon6205
    @thomaseynon6205 Před 2 lety +1

    Brass contains no Iron, which means it will never rust/corrode. Primer cups are made of copper or soft brass. Which copper mixed with oxygen, it can oxidize over a period of time, which will form a green Patina, creating a protective layer from any type of form of corrosion from occurring. This video is a nice sales pitch, for waisting money. Save the money, and store ammo however you please. It will not rust over any period of time.

  • @Valery_plays
    @Valery_plays Před 4 lety +10

    The best tip is to not touch the brass or copper bullet without gloves. Sweat is a mix of moisture and salt and will corrode your ammo.

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +4

      That is true. If you want to be really careful gloves would definitely help. Thanks for the tip!

    • @Valery_plays
      @Valery_plays Před 4 lety +4

      @@MagicPrepper Also apply white Vaseline on the rubber seal and your ammo in the 50 cal can will last forever.

    • @munsters2
      @munsters2 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Valery_plays I've heard a lot of people say that petroleum based lubricants like motor oil or petroleum jelly should not be used on rubber because it will damage the rubber and that silicone is a better lubricant.

    • @Valery_plays
      @Valery_plays Před 3 lety +2

      @@munsters2 Yes that is correct. I did get some water and petroleum free paste. Anything organic will bee fine.

    • @munsters2
      @munsters2 Před 3 lety

      @@Valery_plays OK.

  • @02lb72500HD
    @02lb72500HD Před 2 lety

    I use the plastic 30 cal cheap cans for bulk loaded ar mag storage. It'll hold 8 mags and 2- 30 round boxes of 5.56. They stack nicely and don't have a bunch of weight in them so the lid doesn't try to bow when you pick it up.
    Long term storage ammo I put loose in a 30cal or 50cal can with the I.D. tag off of one box of ammo that way you know what it is.
    Current use ammo I keep in the factory box and stack them on end that way you can read the info from the box. It's not the most efficient way to store the ammo but its easy easier than having to dig clear to the bottom of a can looking for something specific.
    Reloading wise I use the mtm boxes for my specialty/performance ammo. Otherwise the bulk stuff gets tossed into a 30cal or 50 cal steel can with a load data tag.

  • @MichaelR58
    @MichaelR58 Před 4 lety +4

    Great tips , thanks for sharing, God bless !

  • @Indeed48
    @Indeed48 Před 3 lety +1

    If you live in a area that has gun shows, you can typically find old surplus ammo cans for real cheap. I got some old military 30mm mortar cans for my shotgun ammo, (can fit about 500ish shotgun shells) and the box was only $10. Got many .50 cal cans for $5 ea, all in good shape. Throw in some desiccant and your g2g.

  • @dougdurdaller6430
    @dougdurdaller6430 Před 3 lety

    Great tips, thank you. Tine to start storing properly

  • @edwardfarough2180
    @edwardfarough2180 Před 4 lety +1

    Mine is in the mtm cases in the army cans. Works well

  • @N20Joe
    @N20Joe Před 4 lety +1

    I always used the steel cans because I like the sturdiness but hadn't considered that the flimsiness of the plastic ones could affect the seal. I bet it would be even worse stacking them up as you do with piles of ammo.

  • @Nattleby
    @Nattleby Před 4 lety +4

    Excellent video! Tip: You would be surprised at how many different pistol rounds fit on 5.56 stripper clips. It makes it easy to store extra ammo in places like under the foam in a pistol case. 9mm, .380, 9x18, 7.62 Tok, etc. I also vac seal rounds for my bug out bags. I had 7.62 Tokarev rounds vacuumed sealed in a bag in the trunk of my car for 2 years. Hot summers, cold winters.... it was perfect, no issues firing or corrosion.

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +2

      Stripper clips do a good job of keeping it tidy that is true. I used to have a bunch before I sold my M1A. I didn't realize you could put pistol rounds in them but that is good to know. Yes I have rounds in my truck right now that have experienced -40 - 80 degrees and they still look pretty good. It's also very humid here in ND so they seem to be holding up well there too.

  • @sheepdog457
    @sheepdog457 Před 4 lety +16

    I acquired several boxes of .45 ball from WWII. They’re still good to go.

    • @dam1120
      @dam1120 Před 3 lety +1

      How do you store the rice? Do you just throw it all over the ammo boxes? Thank you

  • @boomer8500
    @boomer8500 Před 4 lety +9

    The absolute best way to store ammo for long term storage is vacuum sealing in the original box and placed in a quality O-ring ammo can. You and also store your rifles/hand guns with a gun sock and vacuum seal them. The sock will protect sharp edges from puncturing the seal. I've been doing this since 2010. Open a can, take a box or two, looks and performs the same way as I stored them 10 years ago. ** side note ** Make sure your firearms are lubricated prior to sealing.

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +1

      Good to know! And what type of ammunition do you usually store? Anything in particular? Or is it just whatever you happen to decide to buy? I wish I could just stock up on nickel plated cartridges but, it's not financially friendly.

    • @boomer8500
      @boomer8500 Před 4 lety +1

      I go by the 2000 round + per rifle ratio. I loaded up on every rifle I own. Also, magazines, stripper clips and cartridge belts . Plenty of magazines, stripper clips and cartridge belts. If you can't feed them, they are a club. With the exception of military surplus. Most are fitted with bayonets. Then you have a spear. Never go code black.

  • @SurvivalLiving
    @SurvivalLiving Před 4 lety +10

    Oh man I just knew you were breaking out the oxygen absorbers and the vacuum sealer 😃 👍

  • @ranger178
    @ranger178 Před 2 lety

    silicone grease on lid rubber seal will keep it in good shape and is waterproof. you can use it on hinge and latch also

  • @thegoodfooddude7395
    @thegoodfooddude7395 Před 4 lety +1

    Oh on ammo storage I found a plastic storage container with rubber gaskets that fit 60 9mm luger rounds each I use to store for reloading my 4 magazines that hold 15 rounds instead of the reloader type boxes you showed for my ammo im storing for future use and then I put those into a larger ammo can for kinda a double layer of sealing gaskets as always enjoyed the content

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety

      Hey John, what kind of containers were those?

  • @SirWhiteRabbit-gr5so
    @SirWhiteRabbit-gr5so Před 4 měsíci

    Metal cans and vac-sealing bags are both excellent methods.

  • @displacedredneck
    @displacedredneck Před 3 lety +3

    When the plastic el cheapo ammo cans are filled with 9mm the lids will also bend/gap out enough to loose rounds while walking. Ask me how I know....

  • @krazyivan007
    @krazyivan007 Před 3 měsíci

    I use military surplus .50 cans. I have about 1300 rounds of 5.56 in stripper clips, wrapped in an old cotton tshirt. On top, inside the can,I put a moisture pack that has the little colored circles to tell you if it needs replaced. Have had one stored for 10 years and is fine. I check it about every 6 months to see if it needs a new moisture pack.

  • @ralan350
    @ralan350 Před 11 měsíci

    My personal favorite for bulk, long-term that I have seen used was for instance 500 rounds of 5.56 with a 30 cal can what they did was they dumped the ammo in it then what they did was used dry ice, which when sublimates displaces all the oxygen in the can with CO2 which means there was no oxygen in the can since CO2 is heavier than air so it’s going to stay in the can unless there is a hole in the bottom or you tip it over sideways and the seal breaks then throw a moisture absorbent in the top to catch any residual moisture for what very little oxygen is left in the can

  • @paulaaron1109
    @paulaaron1109 Před 3 lety

    Great information. Thank you.

  • @henrycalhoun5809
    @henrycalhoun5809 Před rokem

    Vacuum sealing, great idea. Never thought to do that.

  • @deividbx
    @deividbx Před 9 měsíci

    Ive come to realize the fact that the thing i love about guns is the ammo variety, ammo is store, ammo i never shoot

  • @ddd228
    @ddd228 Před 3 lety +1

    I use Pelican boxes. Clear tops to see what is inside. Seals well.

  • @bmxking6582
    @bmxking6582 Před 2 lety +1

    Ammo cans are amazing, they got way too expensive now though. I remember picking though stacks and they were $5. Many looked so rusted like they came out of a lake, then you pop it open and the inside looks absolutely perfect.

    • @nunya3163
      @nunya3163 Před rokem

      There are still a few people that sell them on E-Bay for a decent price. I am also finding that more and more companies provide brand new cans when selling ammo, or reloading supplies. Extreme Bullets is one company that does this. They sell bullets for reloading, and bulk orders are provided in ammo cans. Honestly, I am starting to trip over them.

  • @StevenSmith-pt8rz
    @StevenSmith-pt8rz Před 9 měsíci

    You can make your own silica packs. Go to a pet supply store look for the pure silica cat litter with no dye, and no chemicals, or coloring. Get some deposible drip coffee filters. Put some silica litter in the coffee filter staple,or tape shut. You have silica pack. Learned about this awhile back.

  • @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
    @Dread_Pirate_Homesteader Před 4 lety +7

    Collection of ammo cans makes a good time.

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +2

      Doesn't it though? I love me a good ammo can.

    • @kevinsloan3019
      @kevinsloan3019 Před 4 lety +1

      yea i finally got in some ammo i ordered 3 weeks ago before prices went nuts and everything started going out of stock n was putting it in 50 cal cans i realized id bought more ammo than would fit in the 5 empty cans i had but this is a good problem to have right now!!! i can get more cans!!!!

  • @claudb1029
    @claudb1029 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm far from an expert but due to whatever excuses are around it is 8/2020 and ammo is up in price about 50% and on top of that hard to find. In some places you can buy one box and they throw in a partially used roll of toilet paper. I've gotten back into shooting after a long time. I have discovered 5 boxes of 50 22s. A guess as far as I recall they were purchased 17 years ago. They have always been stored inside always, heated but in the last 7 years AC. Inflation? Several boxes have store price labels on them at ninety-nine cents. To my surprise, they work fine in my semi auto pistol.

  • @goldhunter74
    @goldhunter74 Před 4 lety +8

    THAT BEING SAID.....GOOD VIDEO

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +3

      Hahaha you got me! The video I just posted is full of "that being said". It's like quitting a bad habit!

  • @robertabbott5816
    @robertabbott5816 Před 7 měsíci

    Good presentation & informative.

  • @laurentiudafina
    @laurentiudafina Před 3 lety

    You can get silica at pet shop (car litter ) in large quantities.

  • @joshuar3632
    @joshuar3632 Před rokem

    Mylar bags sealed up with desiccant packs . I use a hair straightener to seal them the use a sharpie to label them

  • @raythackston1960
    @raythackston1960 Před 3 lety

    You can put silicone on the plastic reload boxes to seal them from the moisture. Not perfect but better than nothing.

  • @DonyaLane
    @DonyaLane Před 4 lety +1

    Can anyone tell me why/how it's safe to leave ammo in a hot car in the humid summer months? I never understood why this is acceptable, considering that the humidity would be the opposite of "keeping your powder dry." I'm specifically referring to loaded guns left in glove compartments and center consoles, etc.

  • @af22raptor23503
    @af22raptor23503 Před rokem

    I live in Central Florida where it is very hot and humid 90% of the time, so I like to keep my ammo in the Factory Box and then put it inside a 50cal Military ammo can that has a good Rubber Gasket and put as many boxes as possible normally about 10-14 of Pistol and 10-20 for rifle and add a large Chemical hand warmer which takes the oxygen in the can and uses it up and creates a Vacuum in the Can and I seal the Can with a heavy duty zip tie just like what Winchester and Federal use on the Military type ammo cans.

  • @anthonylutz118
    @anthonylutz118 Před 3 lety

    If you want to go hard core long term ammo storage, not much beats schedule 40 PVC for buried caches.
    Use correct size Oxygen absorbers and silica packs.

  • @cripplers8
    @cripplers8 Před 2 lety

    I grabbed one of the cheap plastic cans at harbor freight just because I was there n it was cheap. The locking mechanism broke after about 3 or 4 times opening it so now it’s my cleaning kit box and zip tied through the hole meant for a small lock and whenever I need my cleaning stuff I just cut the zip tie lol. Definitely go with steel military ammo boxes which are more durable and stack really well.

  • @smokethirteen
    @smokethirteen Před 3 lety +1

    If you don’t have silica packets, at the bare min put cardboard in the ammo box. Cardboard absorbed moisture. The humidity moisture has to go somewhere... better the cardboard than the powder in the cartridge.

  • @SavageVoyageur
    @SavageVoyageur Před 2 lety

    I was going to get a bunch of the plastic cans for my ammo. But after seeing this video I went out and bought 12-50 cal ammo cans from Cabellas. I filled all of them with my ammo, placed a few desiccant packs inside, and put stickers on the outside that show me the caliber of ammo. Yes I know they were made in China. I live out in the country and could not find the military ones. They are well made, great seals, and will serve me well for years.

  • @teaganwindago3132
    @teaganwindago3132 Před 3 lety

    I do keep each type of ammo in military cans with OC absorbers all contained in ziplock bags for extra protection. I store them in a non working refrigerator. I have not had a problem as of yet. I have ammo stored for years and it shows no signs of degrading! I hope this helps out the people storing their ammo. One day you may need mine or I may need yours. As Americans we are all in this together. We fight till we die!!!!!

  • @dababycar2899
    @dababycar2899 Před 4 lety +5

    It depends on the length of the event, a good amount would be 1000 rounds per caliber

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +3

      1000 is what I shoot for too. That's what makes me feel comfortable at least. And after that I keep going.

    • @dababycar2899
      @dababycar2899 Před 4 lety +3

      And dude I really enjoy your videos and can tell you put time and effort into them. Keep up the good work!

    • @hillbillyhomestead1966
      @hillbillyhomestead1966 Před 4 lety +1

      At least 👍🇺🇲

  • @brandonsheaffer5035
    @brandonsheaffer5035 Před 4 lety +3

    I can usually pick up those military ammo cans for 8-10 bucks. good deal.

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +1

      Yea there is a guy near me who has a bunch of surplus stuff. I am going to approach him on a bulk buy and see what he is down for.

    • @brandonsheaffer5035
      @brandonsheaffer5035 Před 4 lety +1

      @@MagicPrepper used to have a flea market near me. They closed it down to build a damn Amazon warehouse. Anyways, that's where I could find most of those cans. Basically brand new, too. Still have other guys that sell them cheap though.

  • @Majuscule2012
    @Majuscule2012 Před 4 lety +3

    Dam, your made good video for a 5000 subcriber youtuber. I subcribe right now. I like new youtubers.

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety

      Well hey I appreciate that! I am always trying to improve the quality of the content so hopefully I can keep it goin!

  • @ashforkdan
    @ashforkdan Před 3 lety +1

    How long can you store the ammo? Does the powder change? I have 1000 rounds of weatherby 7 mm mag rounds I reloaded and the same on pistol ammo that I reloaded 30 years ago is it still good?

  • @FreedomInc
    @FreedomInc Před 4 lety +4

    You would be surprised how many people have no clue that the lids come off of ammo cans.

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety

      That's true. I didn't mention it in the video but they do come off pretty easily. I will say that the ones I have taken off a lot seem to feel "looser" after the fact. Not that it matters I guess?

    • @FreedomInc
      @FreedomInc Před 4 lety

      @@MagicPrepper if you remove the kids it makes them easier to work with sometimes. They wont fall over backwards. I have also used them when cleaning my rifles to hold parts so I didn't loos them. Hell,I made a camp stove out of one when I was a kid.

    • @RockHudrock
      @RockHudrock Před 4 lety

      Mine drive me crazy when they come off and i didn't want them to. LOL! :-)

  • @munsters2
    @munsters2 Před 3 lety

    Does the silica have to be placed on bottom of can? Because it would be more convenient to place it on top so you can check the indicator occasionally.

  • @Nattleby
    @Nattleby Před 4 lety +2

    Ever use Zcorr bags? Anti corrosion vapor bags? I use them in some of my 50 cal cans. Suburban Sentinel has a thorough review on them. They seem to work well, especially for steel case ammo.

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +2

      I have seen those and they look functional. Are you using them to separate different types of ammo? Or just a liner in the can?

    • @Nattleby
      @Nattleby Před 4 lety +2

      Magic Prepper I use them as Ammo can liners because they are quite large, and they are made to fit the .50 cal cans. For example I have two cans of 7.62x39 with about 800 rounds each, both in ZCorr bags. One loose (corrosive surplus M67) and the other in factory boxes (non corrosive various types of steel case). I have not seen any corrosion on anything, been about 6 years. I also keep some silica gel in the cans too, under the bags. Here is a link to suburban sentinel’s review: czcams.com/video/dWplfcwW6x4/video.html

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +2

      @@Nattleby I will check it out! And that seems like a good upgrade. I hate corrosion even if it doesn't effect functionality. Just makes me feel like I failed my ammo haha

  • @ammosexual45
    @ammosexual45 Před 4 lety +10

    I have two of the taller 50 cal cans loaded with 9 mm hp and 45 hp. In 2016 my house flooded . I was unable to move them to high ground due to the fact that I was out of town.When I got home three days later I found out my ammo was bone dry. I can’t tell you how relieved I was due to the fact what I had in there was very expensive.

  • @DonyaLane
    @DonyaLane Před 4 lety +2

    Wow, I've just been storing my ammo in the original boxes, stored inside clear, plastic shoe boxes, stuffed with silica packets. Guess I'll have to rethink that and graduate to an ammo can.

  • @BowWowPewPewCQ
    @BowWowPewPewCQ Před rokem

    Oxygen absorbers and silica gel serve 2 different purposes. I use OAs with food where oxygen is a problem and Silica where moisture is a problem. Ammo doesn't care about oxygen. I put loose ammo in mylar bags with a silica packet squeeze out any air, heat seal and label. Using the bag let's it conform to the shape like they were loose, but lets you sort a couple different types if needed. Through in a couple silica packs outside the bags and shut the lid. Label the outside and your good. Do not store on a concrete floor and keep in a cool spot.

  • @crossfox1991
    @crossfox1991 Před 3 měsíci

    I normally have one can thats 2 load outs of mags then filled the rest of the space with bandoleers of stripper clips, 2nd can is boxed or striper cliped ammo and the 3rd can is a mixed can of range ammo loose or in boxes because it gets used and filled quite often

  • @floridapatriot9776
    @floridapatriot9776 Před 4 lety +3

    I just ordered a bulk amount of ammo. It shipped in the manufacturer cardboard boxes (20rds/ea). They then wrapped them in plastic wrap. Do you recommend leaving them in the plastic wrap or removing it? I have them in a 50 Cal metal ammo can.

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +5

      I would remove it for one reason. The plastic traps any moisture that might be in the cardboard or boxes and doesn't allow for the dissipation you would want if there was moisture. When I receive bananas from my distributor, they come with plastic wrapped around the bunches. If you leave the plastic in the box the bananas will go bad 2x as fast! Just my analogy and reasoning as to why.

  • @biffbalata1
    @biffbalata1 Před rokem

    Nice info for newbies and non military types. I do agree that metal ACTUAL GI cans are the best way to go. They ain’t cheap though, but how do you put a price on somethings? There are some non mil spec cans out there so be aware. Price is usually the give away.

  • @L.V-Rider
    @L.V-Rider Před 2 lety +2

    This guy is part of the ammo shortage problem.

  • @paolodeep8459
    @paolodeep8459 Před 4 lety +6

    Leave the ammo in a room with a dehumidifier running before putting then into vacuum bags or ammo cans

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +2

      That's a good idea. I will have to remember that if someone asks for any more advice as it is not something I have previously suggested. Thanks!

    • @MagicPrepper
      @MagicPrepper  Před 4 lety +1

      @Jones I thought the same!

    • @wino1979ful
      @wino1979ful Před 3 lety +1

      Cant I just store the ammo in the safe with the dehumidifier on at all times??

  • @dam1120
    @dam1120 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi I am new to guns and now that I have found ammo I need help storing the ammo. I am being told I need silica packs for the cans. I was told to make my own do not buy and I was wondering if you made that silver container yourself because I have not seen it sold anywhere and trust me I've been looking at every site, every magazine I can find for advise on how to store my gun and ammo. I did run out and get a plastic ammo can from Walmart I will admit but then I looked far and wide and found metal cans I believe in 50 size at Harbor Freight and it is solid and water proof. Now I'm hit with needing the silica and I looked on the web on how to make the packets and like everything else the videos are years old and different from each other so I don't know what to do. Lastly since I have both range ammo and defense ammo I cant mix them so they are still in their cardboard boxes in the ammo cans. What do you advise for a new gun owner trying to learn but so confused with all the videos and books out there. Thank you.

  • @markwhite6782
    @markwhite6782 Před 4 lety

    I may be incorrect but your mention of the Winchester 9mm not having a primer sealant may have been wrong. I always thought every NATO round manufactured withe the circle plus stamp on the brass was mil-spec and all mil-spec ammo was sealed at the primer. Maybe it was a clear sealant that was hard to see. Also too I win the award for stupidity on ammo storage. I got so deep into this I actually placed some of my military ammo cans (loaded) in a nitrogen atmosphere glove box I had access to at work. I then sealed the cans locking in pure nitrogen and zero oxygen to prevent any oxidation. I then realized the first time I open the cans to grab some ammo I wasted all of my time.

  • @robhtp3817
    @robhtp3817 Před 4 lety

    Is it ok to mix different ammo brands but same caliber?

  • @Yetified_Mayhem
    @Yetified_Mayhem Před 2 lety

    Pelican box with some shotgun shells and ammo cans for everything else.. Packets inside and I open during winter and run dehumidifier and also dry out the packets.,,. Works for cash too

  • @MGB-learning
    @MGB-learning Před rokem

    great video

  • @allenguerrero7696
    @allenguerrero7696 Před 7 měsíci

    Can you keep your rounds in a bunch of mags and use the same technique using the ammo can and silica with a good result?

  • @robertthorn9560
    @robertthorn9560 Před 9 měsíci

    I use vacuum packer and place a piece of original box which has caliber information.

  • @tuco86x
    @tuco86x Před 4 lety +1

    Nice video Steve