CT|Salem (Bayonetta) vs. FOX MVG|Mew2King (Cloud) - Wii U Grand Finals - SC:67
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Set starts at 4:20
gods work
Its pretty sure certain that Salem is the best Bayonetta now
nah its pinkfresh
r u tellin me no or him? CyberCaco
Salem has far more notable wins. Double elimination on ZeRo, 3-0 nairo, 2 sets off Tweek, Mew2king, 6wx The list goes on. Sure Pink Fresh has Mr.R and Marss but it doesn't compare to the Havoc Salem causes in Tri state
It's up for dispute. Salem has more notable wins, but Pink Fresh has better results.
CyberCaco I don't know about that. Seeing Pink Fresh vs Marss. Pink Fresh has way more combo knowledge then Salem.
mew2king the best Cloud, Salem best Bayonetta, facts.
pinkfreah is the best bayonetta
pinkfresh*
Definitely PinkFresh
Salem won against ZeRo, Tweek, 6WX, Mr. E, Nairo, M2K and more, guess what...
I agree, Salem is the best bayo. Pinkfresh is cool but Salem how alot more notable wins. And hes been impressing as of late
Take a drink everytime the commentator says "goin for a ride."
no
cute girly icon tho
or "hands of God"
im drunk
My kidneys have failed me
Siri, call a taxi
Salem's Bayonetta is very entertaining to watch
mew2king's forehead is brighter than my future
Smash Conference always seems to have hype grand finals, this one did not disappoint in the slightest.
Also that first match on Great Cave Offensive was hilarious, I don't know why the commentators didn't like it.
Both of these great players had a character crisis in smash 4 until later DLC. In addition I think they both lead as the best of these two smash characters.
They had a character crisis? Man.. Glad to see them both have characters they like to play with then.
Character crisis? m2ks donkey kong was super good
Salem does lead for Bayo but Komorikri is clearly the best cloud
Then Mkleo happen
Damn These two have so much history!!!! Leggo!!!
Salem's Bayonetta is so damn glorious, love watching her.
Amazing games so close at the end
Starting to think Salem Is the best player to this moment. He beat Tweek, Zero, Esam, 6WX...He's been keeping a really good record.
Nha MK Leo is the best, that kid is completely invincible.
Too bad he can't travel, but the way he destroys top player....man he looks like Zero from the invincible winning streak
Also, you don't have to forget about Abadango and Ally
right now Salem really looks top 5, strong as hell
...still i have the feeling Leo is the best, the way he plays.....man it's shocking
The last tournament they did in mexico he annihilated dabuz and Mr R, 2 of the best players in the world got trumped over like they were kids that just got the game. He really reminds me of 2015 Zero
No that's a really stupid thought m8
and then you compare his results to other top players and realize that, good as they are, he can't be without more traveling
That statement hurt my eyes, he is nowhere close to being the best. He still has do to better in Majors.
ZeRo beat him too
game: Bayonetta (2009)
CZcams pls
it was released in japan in 2009 so they're technically right
New Jersey grand finals
All is right
Love just watching these players fool around and have fun. Really takes away from the competitive feel and the cold between few players.
I feel like I am the only one that likes The Great Cave Offensive. It's so big, pays amazing homage to Super Star and is really fun to explore.
Honestly, we just need a mod that removes the lava, or at least stops it from killing you, and we have a way funner stage to play. Also, maybe throw in the enemy spawners from Master Fortress (or Smash Run enemies later down the road) and you got a faux-Subspace Emissary right there.
Medachod but if the lava doesn't kill people could camp in the corners, even in casual play. they'd live to like 200%, even more if they can tech.
+Ωμέγα Άλφα, I don't care about the legality of it all. It's clearly never going to be tournament legal, so it might as well be fun to play on.
Medachod but it wouldn't be fun if the lava didn't kill D:
+Ωμέγα Άλφα, Then have an option for the stage with hazzards and without. My friends hate the lava.
Medachod oh ok
Those were some excellent games! Some of the best I've seen in a while.
Absolutely amazing set. Salem continues to impress. Best bayo undoubtedly
Salem is for SuRE top 30, but people calling him top 5 only because of his wins is just like Mr.E! He has good placements, but he needs to have higher placing at majors, which I'm sure he will get. For sure best bayo tho.
Do you think Salem is around Mr. E's overall rankings, in terms of results?
No one disagreed with u bby ;)
some low tier fish like you needs you flop away, don't give me that salt
At least I wasn't rekt in bed, you fish ;)
Swim away, damn aquatic menace
I think she's a candidate for the best.
I love M2K's Cloud
Bayo is still high or top tier...
Who said she wasn't?
Yeah, I think she down a couple places on a lot people's list but she's still pretty good.
Bayo is still the best in the game.Or Cloud
+Jared Martin Bayo is still top 3 to me. Next to Sonic and Ryu
Mine goes #1Cloud,#2Bayo,#3Ryu.Cloud is actually #1 on the tiers right now
Which commentator is the one that says "Hands of God" and "Going for a ride" over and over?
Because they really annoy me
Corey O'Dell The black guy
That would be me sir. Sorry if you aren't a phrase of the phrases, but naming her actual special moves back to back to back doesn't feel as natural in the moment
Yeah I could see that. I've never commentated live, so I can't say it's not hard as hell to talk off the cuff like that, just maybe try and mix up the delivery when you can. It got really repetitive to listen to
M2k played amazing, last stock situation vs cloud's worst mu & vs potentially the best smash4 player rn.
Salem the best player? I strongly disagree
If we are not using a cumulative approach and strictly look at the last couple weeks of play, its debatable that salem is actually playing the best smash of anyone in the US right now
Isn't it Sheik? That matchup is pretty dumb
+Jaden Lanx no, its bayonetta because all of cloud's moves stay out for a very long time. these lasting hitboxes make it easy for him to defend against a lot of the cast, but any hit will activate witch time, which can possibly mean instant death.
zero is still number 1
Look at Salem. He is the captain now.
its good to see players having a good time playing
did anyone notice how in the description, the game is Bayonetta? lol
"Timely Witch Time"......I'm not sure how I feel about this sentence lol
Two really fun players to watch
Hand of God? That`s a demon...
Do this commentators know salem have beat zero, tweek, nairo? Also consistently. Ppl keep sleeping on him....
yeah we commented on it when they played before winners finals started
No one says anything about placing. Even zero admits ppl disregard salem. Most think he is a player being carry by bayo and that is what this commentators though of him. A another Bayo player. He is on the raise. I hope you understood what i meant.
jrnoobzero nah Salem is the reason why Bayo's still considered top tier after the patch.
Game 6 was BRUUUTAL props to Salem:p
That triple empty hop cross slash was so insane. 0_0
7:40 You can see the villagers are pissed because Cloud gypped the match
19:00 he probs did tech it. but cloud can't tech if he's hit during certain frames of his up b. this includes limit up b as well
Best cloud vs best bayo. What a sight.
why did this get recommended to me 4 years later lmao
This Bayonetta player is too good
M2K was on point most of this set. It's the best I've seen of him in Smash 4 in a while.
mew2king is from planet earth!
going for a ride XD
one of the best alliances of the best but now it's time for the showdown
I love how awkwardly unfitting "The Roost" is on Smashville for tournament play. It adds a strange sense of hilarity to a serious match.
Darn! So close! Good games!
SALEM THE GOD
I didn’t know The Great Cave Offensiv was tournament-legal!
Salem is my new favorite smash playaaaa
can someone let me know, is bayonetta like actually tricky to play and salem just put a lot of work into his bayonetta which is why he's so good, or is bayonetta just busted. I can't tell, i haven't seen any bayo play for a long time so I'm just in shock rn
this match was so intense
its hard to decide for me. pink fresh or salem as best bayonetta?
EDIT: those are the only 2 people i know of that are bayonetta mains and are at a top level. i dont know about many Japanese players so im not sure of a bayonetta in another region
leroy jenkins Salem is by far the best Bayonetta. No offense to Pink Fresh.
Great games.
VICTORY SCREECH!
ALOOLOOLOOLOOLOOLOO
dude? where is ryo? which tourny is he playing on?!?!? i miss that dude?
The guy left MVG, probably looking for a better sponsor.
Great Cave Offensive vs. Palutena's Temple vs New Pork City?
Palutena's
why is salem dressed like a jojo character? xD
How can I go to Smash Conference?
Salem’s bayou is the ONLY bayo I like to watch
I have been out of the loop for a while, is cloud the new kiddy dong except actually overpowered?
All I know is that it's really hard to play Ganondorf against him
MrScaryowl Well, Cloud isn't as busted as the old Diddy Kong, but he's definitely powerful. And Ganondorf would obviously have a huge disadvantage to Cloud, Ganon is one of the worst characters in the game.
he shits all over ganon with his stupidly fast high range moves. i guess nintendo decided that killing at 100+% meant they had to give a character really high range and spam attacks?
3:49 I WOULD BE SO PISSED IF I LOST LIKE THAT 🤣
the pichu ditto MM by m2k thoo
can somebody explain how m2k always gets the ledge with climhazzard even when he just started the move???
Lmao in the description it says the game is Bayonetta
UP SET UP SET UP SET UP SET UP SET
spams up air and runs away? YYYYYYYUP, thats the average FG Cloud main over there.
Bayonetta trailer combo used by all Bayonetta mains.
Seriously, all DLC newcomers wete given the clear obvious advantage of having their advantages a full scale combos flat out shown.
While as for N64 Vets Melee and Brawl cast and SSB4 others had no such things.
Players had to come up with their own set-ups and mind games.
I'm sorry but most of: Cloud, Ryu, Corrin, and Bayonetta players I see use the same old crap from the trailers.
After a while the 4 seem like robots.
Legit my teacher looks like Mew2king
I want to see Salem vs Ramen it would seem as a good set.
it probably be boring actually as palutena doesn't go in very much, and she's hard for Salem to combo.
I'd picture it being a very campy match
This video made me like MewtwoKings
*mew2king
19:00 was untechable
Both of those "phantoms" weren't phantom hits, just whiffs :P Also M2K had really amazing SDI to consistently get out of those combos and bad situations in general, but Salem *still* clutched out the victory. What will it take to stop this man...
"Both of those "phantoms" weren't phantom hits, just whiffs"
that's the joke
Junaka They already dedicated a whole patch just to nerfing her. It'd look ridiculous if they decided to nerf her again lol. Plus I think she's in a good spot where she is.
Gotmilk0112 Was he joking? Someone could easily make that mistake especially with Bayo's jab and Cloud's upsmash since the visual effects of the moves don't line up exactly with the hitboxes.
Nobody would be able to mistake it because everyone knows phantom hits don't exist in smash 4.
as dark shears would say we take those
The commentators and the players look like fathers and sons....
How old is he?
Cloud's really immortal
Mew2King is hot... but I don't know why?! Good gameplay too :)
Why did they go to the great cave offensive?
For fun
Mew2king can please do a walk through of Kingdom Hearts 3 when comes out!
If not I'll pay for it
+Timothy McNeal after 2 or 3 years? since kingdom hearts 11/8 is coming out instead.
i didn't know flavor flav played smash
maxcrosby61 This comment made me laugh.
bayonetta is so good
How old is M2K? Hell even Salem looks really old.
M2K is 27 and Salem is 22.
TigerBizNiz M2K looks reasonable but Salem looks older than that
I think M2k jsut needed to punish the ledge regrabs by salem. If he had punished them there would have been about 5 stocks on his end. Salem regrabbing the ledge with no invincibility is a free kill and I don't think he recognized it.
of course he noticed it, it's just he couldn't find a way in cause of witch twist
One Punch Saiyan well about 4 times he had limit and could have blade beamed because it goes through the stage itself. I am jsut wondering if he knows that interaction. he never had to approach the ledge is all I am saying.
Frostbyte115 I don't want to rewatch the game lol, but I assume he wanted to save it for the next stock
I mean I am jsut wondering if he recognized it or if he was just holding it. Sometimes it is worth one way or the other sometimes no.
Don't take this the wrong way but I really don't think M2K "didn't realize it". He's been playing smash for... 10 years? More? He's known as the robot and is famous for taking the best optimal option
his name needs to be cloudking instead of mewtwoking haven't seen him used mewtwo yet lol
This is legal?
m2k is from planet earth? there's no way it could be real , I always thought he was an alien lmao
He was the only robot race made on earth
indeed
PLANET EARTH
one of the commentators sounds like gunblade
Get m2k to make a new cloud guide pls?
They already have one uploaded well pre- patched Cloud
Yeah, but I'm sure m2k has acquired more knowledge about the character from the initial video.
Why tf is that stage legal
its apex 2013 all over again
That commentaris saying ''my godness'' 24/7 makes me sick.
back thrw off edge the dair. down thrw then finishing touch. Just a few combos m2k has used and made cloud look like a smash god. but i guess he doesnt like being petty...m2k must already have money or something😒
if Mew2king where to shave his head and work out a bit he would look pretty hot i think, maybe switch to contacts
Drunkefox Mew2King is hot regardless of what he does.
why does he keep calling it "hands of god" ?
LeCoolFace Well its an infernal demoness in which Bayonetta has a pact with.
HANDS A' GAHD NOT LIKE THIS TAKES HIM FOR A RIDE HANDS A' GAHD TAKES HIM FOR A RIDE NOT LIKE THIS NOT ENOUGH HANDS A' GAHD TAKES HIM FOR A RIDE GETS OUT THO TAKES HIM FOR A RIDE GETS OUT THO TAKES HIM FOR A RIDE GETS OUT THO HANDS A' GAHD NOT LIKE THIS TAKES HIM FOR A RIDE NOT LIKE THIS
Could have done without this commentary.
not a fan? Were you not a fan of the phrases themselves or the amount of times they were said? I need some solid feedback so I know what to adjust lol
GameDragonX Not a fan of how many times it was used. It started to get a little annoying (not trying to be mean)
ah ok, thats fair. I'll be more mindful of it. thanks.
They are seemingly original/funny ways of describing the actions on screen, but the constant repetition of them made it sound like you didn't come up with them on your own since you are just repeating them. (Implying you are repeating them from the onset.) You sounded like you were on autopilot and watching/listening to autopilot is not fun, and gets really irritating fast.
In a form of constructive criticism, I'd say these three: 1) try to not say a particular thing more than twice in a set, 2) be mindful of your commentary as people can already see what's happening on screen, commentary is supposed to add to that, and 3) try not to repeat a one-time funny phrase you heard elsewhere, try to come up with your own stuff. (The exception to the latter is community-widespread phrases like "that's not safe," "ramen noodles," and "God watching Bayonetta is almost as boring as playing against Bayonetta.")
so did M2K quit melee?
How did Salem get so good all of a sudden? lol
he's always been good. he just doesn't travel.
hey paid 5.99$
Somebody forgot Apex 2013
Bravefrogy hes always been good he went threw a character crisis and played bayo and he represents the character the best in the u.s
This matchup is really bad for Cloud, imo.
No. It's just as hard for bayonetta...
That's cloud's only MU he losses
I feel like he loses to Pikachu as well. Not as bad as Bayo, though.
Yjm 300 cloud loses a couple mus outside of bayo and pika he losses diddy sonic and fox i feel as well
Naw Cloud loses to Fox Pikachu Kirby Ness. And even against Mario
black dude looks faded af
Cloud is such a brain dead character
still can't get past the fact that on competitive play they don't even use omega stages
planet eartg rofl