Wonderkid Squad NEVER Trains | FM24 Experiment
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- čas přidán 8. 05. 2024
- In this Football Manager 2024 Experiment, we follow the story of a squad of wonderkids but they never train. Can they improve from game time alone?
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this showed how OP the Physical lmao
Indeed it did
Well that was a pleasant surprise.
Wouldn’t have expected that to happen as they regressed. You have the magic touch as manager, it seems
Feels nice to be done with university for the summer. I can finally relax a bit
Hope you enjoy the free time. University summers were great. I feel old 🤣
Wonder if all the late winners were because the team was full of 20 stamina players, flying past knackered opposition. I feel like there's something in the game that tells you which 10 mins of the game you score the most in?
Yeah somewhere in the analysis section. Honestly this video could have been 4 hours long if we delved into everything haha
It'd be interesting to also see what training twice a week like a semi-pro team does just to see the difference.
interesting idea, maybe will look at this
Ohhhhhh, I've been looking forward to this for ages!
Me too haha just daunted by the admin and extended sim times from laptop instead of PC
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So you're telling me if I don't train i become Usain Bolt ? And a team of Usain Bolts would win trophies in England and Europe and will survive the prem with ease :))
Ehh not quite. Usain Bolt failed as a footballer at the Central Coast Mariners B team….. Simply lacked the stamina and technical ability to make it.
Literally just did a sports science related to why Bolt failed and why say someone like Roger Federer or Lando Norris would theoretically do well.
(Yh my school is dumb Ik)
Kinda but as we saw, they had a limit on their success
... was watching how Zealand tried to spin the fact that the game is NOT about physicals, and ended up he proved it IS about the physicals. For the first time in my FM gaming, incorporated Pace as an important attribute for EVERY PLAYER (... ok, maybe not for the GK, and the DLP).
Also, EBFM had proved that Training (+maybe 5-10-20 matches a season?) is very important for players just to maintain the CA after 24yo. Your video ties these few points together well, proving that in FM at least, signing 11 Bolts can win us something (even without Training, oh dear. I did remember in real life, one Spurs CB cannot train ... Lesley King or something. I am old) ...
I mean, I understand - FM is ultimately just a game. But really, it's way too heavily skewed towards Physicals. E.g. I can only play a PACEY AF or a CF for my lone SC in my 4411. Else, a 4* acad kid who has "only" 13-14 Pace still cannot score goals. Even with green 17s for Off-the-Ball and Finishing and 15 for Anticipation and Decision. It's frankly BS to me. 🤷
Yeah EBFM's video on matches was incredibly enlightening. I also think there was something to do with starts over substitute appearances. Physicals are arguably the most crucial apart from a few key hiddens. Haha I remember Ledley King, he was my era of football
@@jayhuahua Ermm, minutes on the field. If you start, you get more. Sources elsewhere stated that 45+ minutes would get a bonus, so ... "starts", yes. Anyway, it's the reason why my subs tend to get at least 10 starts and perhaps 20+ appearances. Even the backup GK. Seriously.
Maybe the devs remembered Ledley King. The poor guy cant train because of his knees ... man, decades ago, I devoured every single Soccernet article, I swear. My knowledge of modern Europe (at least till the 2010-ish) came from those brilliant articles explaining how the political scene of various countries influenced the clubs and why some clubs remained top (Real Madrid is #1 for a reason) ...
Ah, good times.
This was great, first time seeing this experiment 👍
Glad u enjoyed
I like the longer format videos!
Great to hear, I also like them for the watch hours and extra ads haha
@@jayhuahua Hahaha, I haven’t played football manger since 2014 but really enjoy the videos. The Blackburn series was a great throwback. Keep it going!
Yeah I was interested in this because in my very old version of FM I thought physicals were massively influential. I got a pack and Built Downham only through youth intake and loans. I can keep them in the Premier League because I have just trained physical players playing hit and run.
Physicals are key to success
This one sounds dope :0
Hope u enjoyed. I had a riot with this one
@@jayhuahua twas a rollercoaster but just like a rollercoaster it was a blast
Oh how I love those polygons
Lol 😆
Funny experiment!
Is it possible that given how important physical attributes are in the match engine, when a player is the manager and simulates a season, a match engine-like simulation method is used, and instead when they are not manager anymore a simpler simulation method only taking ability into account is used by the game?
I have no idea
looking foward to this lol
Hope it lived up to the hype
I think there is a little hack in there somewhere, but I can't decide is it put all your u18s on not training so they become the best they possibly can physically and then hope they catch up a bit of mental/technical later or put all the 29+ players on rest so they don't decline physically, as the game seems to value physicals so highly 🤔 maybe both!
Interesting thoughts. If there is a takeaway here great but to be honest it was just a silly fun one for me
Would love to see what difference it would make if they started training once they reach premier league.
They'd probably start progressing from that age, just be a few years behind schedule
Being able to edit all schedules at once would be such a huge QoL change. I hate copy pasting my schedule 40 times each season
I know right... would have made this much quicker and less admin
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As expected. The best way to train players is to play them.
Kinda
Could be interesting if this can be exploited. Maybe 2-3 years of no training to really boost those physicals and then catch up a bit throughout the rest of the career.
Did the physicals drop dramatically once you resigned and they actually started training?
It'd also be very interesting to see their attribute progression in such a video. I mean the ingame window where you can see all-time attribute changes because this behaviour is incredibly weird, to see what kind of tradeoffs were being done to keep their CA for the first half of the career.
I can send you multiple years of the save game if you want to do some digging? It's a good question, and I am surprised their physicals lasted so long into their 30s
Great experiment! I don't understand how they did that well, other than the Physicals are really important. But... given how badly they got relegated when you resigned.. are we saying you shouldn't bother with training for older players?
As interesting and as fun as it was, I have no idea what we can take away from this haha
If this happened in real life I am pretty sure that even city would turn into prime sheffieald united
Haha they would not have 20 stamina and pace without training would they
Am i missing something or is this the first tkme you mentioned you have dogs ? Which breed jay ?
Not sure if u are joking 🤣 chihuahuas, obviously h3nce the name and CZcams logo, thats my boys in it, and we also have a pug. All 3 pictured behind me on the shelf
@@jayhuahua wasnt even joking haha, and didnt once look at the picture but now you mention it makes a dam lotta sense. 😂
This also proves that physical attributes don't need training to improve.
Kinda, but if other attributes improved they prob wouldn't 🤔
The Tony Macaroni Stadium 🤣
Is this something i missed?
whats the manager stats that could be a potential variable
Just generic user managerial attributes
my best odds where 1-999 with PSG in the lower leagues
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Training every day but with all physical attributes 1
what so the kind of inverse of this?
@@jayhuahua yess but all physicals are 1 overall for all players
shalom
I mean yeah... Not the most fun as a save game though is it haha
Eden Hazard would have loved this video
Haha
next time get better training facilities to see if something happens
But they aren't training so why would it matter?
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Congratulations
commenting for the algorithm. thanks for dealing with all the ballache-y admin for us jay!
Happy to do it. Been putting this one off for weeks but I knew it'd be worth it. Loved this one
feels like this shows that the game biases results hugely in favor of the player. no other reason for the team to drop from the fringes of europe straight to league 1
There is something in that. Maybe we're all terrible and the game makes us win and feel good about ourselves lol