Slipknot┃A band on the verge of collapse…
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- čas přidán 17. 02. 2024
- Joey Jordison, Chris Fehn, Craig Jones, and more recently Jay Weinberg were all members of Slipknot that seem to have been ejected from the band under mysterious or at least by non-amicable means. In other words, the reasons for their departures seem to have been brushed under the carpet by Slipknot, or there’s been an attempt to conceal the truth.
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It’s gotten to the point where Slipknot fans have even started to lose trust in the band and seemingly doubt that Slipknot’s intentions have ever been honourable. And all fingers seem to point to this man, Shawn Crahan, otherwise known as Clown in the world of Slipknot.
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Correction: Craig Jones did not cite health issues, this was speculation by fans.
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Craig wasn’t needed sense Michael pfaff is literally playing his parts now.
@@Bnt91308So, why they replaced Craig?
@@gabrielpelisson9784 pretty much sense Mike joined he’s done most of what Craig has done.
@@Bnt91308 I meant it in the sense that Craig left the band and was replaced by a mysterious guy who we don't know who he is until now (Not Michael Pfaff)
@@gabrielpelisson9784 Rumored to be Zack Byard who was a touring keyboardist for Korn.
Oh Paul,
Where has this gone without you
😭
Hauntingly good comment
Yeah Paul and Joey were the soul of this band
God, he would turn over in his grave if he knew and he were able 😢
Yes and No, even in the Iowa recordings were already massive disagreements between the band and Iowa was to be their last record. They were never a stable bunch. But this kind of treatments is a little bit disgusting to say the least
The fact Joey, was the one who actually suggested they change their name to Slipknot, well I would say that gives him rights to being a founder
He also designed the slipknot tribal S logo.
Crahan is full of shit
@@kylewells6871and wrote a lot of the early music as well
Nathan (Joey) IS A FOUNDING FATHER ALONG WITH PAUL AND SHAWN
@@amyhill9127 Shawn is the one steering the clown car unfortunately and he's aiming to go down in a massive wreck. The best parts of slipknot definitely died with Paul and Joey.
Nowadays, I view Slipknot as nothing more than how they view themselves, a travelling theatre show made up of independent contractors. Not a band of 'brothers' but a commercial entertainment group, a living parody of themselves.
I'm a diehard maggot, (even though it pains me to say) you're not wrong.... fuckin sucks..
It really hurts me to say this, but I think that is true. I still love their music though.
Like the blue man group now
Brutal but i totally agree bud
It was that after day one lol
Theyve been collapsing since All Hope is Gone
They weren't kidding with that title.
Slipknot-All Band is Gone
exactly this
They had Problems since Iowa but people start to lose their mind now cause they are hurt that they fired Jay, finally
Finally? What do you mean Finally? Jay was a great drummer. @user-qe1pz6lp1q
Without Paul Gray and Jordison this band is collapsing.
This ship sank to the bottom of the Mariana Trench long time ago....
@@robertmclane7034 I agree.
It was making it a business in the first place to bro,should’ve stayed a band and kept the business separate from the music in my opinion
@@AbsoluteBot806Not When you forget your roots then this is what happens. When it's all about money and being too greedy, the art looses out and so do the relationships in the band.
No, it’s the lack of love. There’s no love in the band. They’re basically all scared at this point of being fired by Corey or Sean.
Slipknot has become a brand not a band😢
I've been a long time fan and tge first four albums I pretty much understood as the modern Slipknot (since MFKR) and I look at the last three like 'what the band that uses the name, nowadays' are up to.
Nah, they have always operated as a business and most bands do, this isn't really a bad thing. But like any business, you can run it with a code of ethics and treat your employees well... or you can run it like a cash machine and treat your employees like expendable trash.
Facts
04:43 I always wondered why they didn’t release All Out Life on the album. It’s such a great track.
It's just a theory but it kind of does make sense from a business point of view, still sucks though as, yes absolutely, an insane track!
@karlRock good to see you here,knew you from Indian vlog,.As a fellow metalhead! greetings from North-east India ❤
Yeah, I had to get the Japan edition for that bonus track, It's literally become my favorite song, I was lucky to find it at Discogs for 22.30 Canadian total, which was worth it to me, rather than buying the album and single individually.
@@RAWMUSICTVActually it’s much more likely that the reason why Japan exclusively got the track all out life is due to the cost of CD’s being more expensive in Japan. Because of the price increase it’s common for Japan to get an extra track. Many famous examples of this are Muse’s Absolution and Black Holes and revelations, Dio’s killing the dragon, most if not all albums by Stratovarius, Hardline double eclipse, so on and so forth. I’m pretty sure other Slipknot albums feature Japan exclusive tracks.
They didn't want to pay Chris royalties I guess. Although it is on that other version of the album. So he just gets some of the cut.
Joey deserves justice.
You beat me to it!
Yeah he fucking does. They did him so dirty
Slipknot has become my generation's version of KISS. More brand than band at this point. It's upsetting.
Its aggravating
Clown has always reeked of self-importance and over dramatics.
Making it harder to get along with him over time.
And hard drugs
“I’m the Clown 🤡 🖕🏼”
Every time they hire a new member, they make a much smaller percentage than the last. Making me think it’s all about money.
💯💯💯
Nowadays, unfortunately, it feels like it truly has become about the money
No. Crahan and Taylor are men with questionable social and interpersonal skills making them extremely difficult to get along with long-term. Not everything is about money.
It's all about money. Don't be so naive
Of course it's all about money. Clown knew that fired members would send for him in a law suit, so he's changing the narrative to assert his dominance, abolish all evidence that could be used against him. Think about that.
What they did to Joey is despicable. After many more firings over the recent years, it is about time more people are calling this stuff out.
Exactly as a not so much fan I agree
Have you informed yourself about Joey at all? There where unfortunately reasons why they fired him. Everyone is going rabid over things they have no clue about.
Joey wasnt kicked out
@@user-qe1pz6lp1qExactly, even when Joey was alive, Corey mentioned that he would’ve loved to work with him again or talk with him, but he put his words in the nicest way possible that they were as the band in other direction, rather than Joey and that alone could mean a lot of things, this band sold out most of 2024 european tour, they will do fine, and don’t get me wrong as a fan I wish that Joey stayed away from his demons and worked together with band, it’s so naive and stupid to think that they never talked about issues, they never gathered, just blindly fired him for no reason, while he was and still is one of the most, if not most influential drummer of all time. There are things that are personal, cause the end of the day, they are human beings, and sometimes they don’t get along too well. RIP Joey and Paul and honestly, best of luck to Slipknot, as a fan, I will always be excited to see what’s next for this band, while The End So Far wasn’t as great as .5 and We Are Not Your Kind, they are still super solid efforts, that can stand on it’s own just like first 4 albums, hell I could say that In my opinion I prefer 3 last albums over All Hope Is Gone easily.
I see some people are clearly sucking off Clown and Taylor, Joey WAS fired. Not only was he a founding member but if he didn't leave the band of his own free will, that's what we call being fired. They never bothered to understand what was going on with his health, especially the illness that affected his ability to drum nor gave him time to recover. They used him up and tossed him away, firing him by email. They even promised to return his shit after they fired him but they never did and they kept all his equipment and such and never returned his things. Clown using them as part of his slipknot museum or whatever.
I am absolutely positive the hate against Slipknot is why Corey had a mental breakdown a couple of weeks ago
Dude 100% he's been on top of the world until this shit happens. Unless his home life has suddenly been wrecked, there's nowhere else this could have come from.
Agreed. He couldn't stand the heat so he had to play victim. Dude can afford therapy and medication. The whole sad car video was just for manipulation, honestly. And since he's "such a good guy" everyone gave him sympathy despite the fact he's a cutthroat behind the scenes.
@@themonsteraddictmmxvi1564You know him personally? Or just spewing random bs as usual?
Everytime something happens you pyschos take it out on Corey!!! There are people who are higher up than Corey who run the show!!! Know your sh**!!!!
@taurusbull8276 and you people reek of the same energy as the "LEAVE BRITTANY ALONEEEEE" bitch. The bottom line is that he enables Clown's antics because at the end of the day, Clown outranks him in seniority. I used to love the man myself (Corey) and still wish him nothing but the best, but the best includes accountability, bro.
the way they handle shit is so hysterically bad, they do stuff that is controversial, then deletes their tweets like they are just fucking with us, once a legendary band turned into a fucking joke
They were always a joke
@@WinterInTheForest Iowa and self titled are still regarded as some of the best metal albums ever, and their numbers show that, they used to be a powerhouse
@@Snippyyy Best according to whom? If by numbers you mean sales then I suppose Pop music is even better. Nu metal clowns like Slipknot are and always have been an embarrassment to metal.
Yup. Glad we still have KOЯN
@@WinterInTheForestyou're a "i don't like the metal you listen to, so it's not metal. i only listen to metallica and black sabbath." type of guy. in other words, a goof
Read an interview with Clown and try to not bust a gut laughing. The dude is hilariously pretentious and full of himself.
Clown has been a cancer to the band for awhile. Never liked him
Perhaps listen to a recent podcast with him, and you’ll see much more human side of him. I’ve met the band in 2016, and Clown was very heartwarming and welcoming person, he had no ego with fans, he was super cool and chill, I was so excited to see the band that I almost cried, he sincerely gave me fistbump, and asked me I was ok. Wished me a great time at the show and signed my post, shook my hand and gave a brohug.
Are you new here? Clown has been this way since day 1 when it comes to media and interviews.
The reason I think CZcams comments are whack is the incoherence between the two comments right above me
@@dsxa918hell yeah 😂
I'm getting sick of the drama behind this band. Love the music, but it's gotta be unbelievably toxic in the inner circle
They’re probably chillin just sipping on some wine enjoying their sweet money
@@kingtaco4064 as all bands are while their fans are ripping their hairs off over nothing. it really makes me want to not follow the fanbase anymore, it was so good until the gray chapter but now its filled with teenager tiktok gen-z trash
@krzekil you should check nightwish and other bands... slipknot is far from drama, the fans create the drama, not the band, if you don't like clown, you would love him if you check tuomas
@@puremisanthropia literally, I’ve been listening to them since I was 3 years old and seen everything unfold, I get what you mean
No, it’s only toxic because you are making it toxic by saying it must be toxic based on nothing but pure speculations.
Anyone that was in the Des Moines scene in the late 90's-early 2000's could have told you that Shawn Crahan is the OG POS.
How so? Is he simply an egotistical jerk?
@redeemedfromcorruption1596
Yes. Him and Corey.
Clown literally said “ prostrates himself while on stage” Do you know the definition of Prostrate? lay oneself flat on the ground face downward, especially in reverence or submission.
"she prostrated herself on the bare floor of the church" This all coming from a dude that jumps around, bangs on a keg and jacks off a microphone. Dude is pretentious as hell
@@DF_UniatePapist it was known even online that he swiped all of slipknots members from other bands. When slipknot started coming up (after their roadrunner deal) the des Moines scene started telling their side of the story in chatrooms and forums at the time. Clown even opened a venue just for slipknot to play. He started handpicking the guys he wanted for the band. So for better or worse it was his vision that got the band where it is now.
@@zaltuguitar his "artistic vision" that always ends up being super cringey, like half of WANYK being filler
@@zaltuguitar There's nothing really nefarious in that itself, I mean that's how supergroups are formed, which Slipknot was. None of the bands that had members poached from them would have gone anywhere anyway.
Yeah, they need to all it quits. Corey talks about his physical decline, Clowns over controlling. Corey can do his solo thing, and the others are more than capable of going solo too. Sid can dj for anyone. Clown and Tortilla can j3rk each other off.
Okay regarding Clown saying Joey is not a founding member of the band he may be pointing to when slipknot wasn't even slipknot it was painface. Clown actually was the main drummer around 1992 until layer they added Joey because he was respected thrash metal drummer in the scene. But it was actually Joey who wanted to call the band slipknot after their song slipknot. For him to say that Joey isn't a founding member I think he has unresolved feelings from being the main drummer to an extra one, this would also explain why he didn't like jay either. Since the beginning Clown has been trying to make it seem like he's the most important in the band when really in all honesty he's not.
Fun fact: Slipknot was never actually called Painface. That was the name of Anders post-Slipknot band that got confused with people doing interviews. When Clown was the actual drummer back in '92/'93, they were called 'Pull My Finger', later shortened to 'Pull'.
@@FlyboyHelosim thanks. Interesting never knew that.. still don't fuck with clown 😂
Very sad. I remember back in the days of 2005-6 or so and being impressed that the band was still all together and firing on all cylinders after so much time. Despite the newer side projects at the time, the members all seemed happy at the time and the fact that they were still a 9 piece was impressive. Ah, well.
For sure, saw them in 05 and it's still (easily) the best show i've ever seen... Sad to see the state of the band now. RIP Paul and Joey 🤟
Paul was holding it all together, it all crumbled apart after he left us
Corey doesn't have as much control as people think.
Swear, people just lump him in cuz he's the great big mouth😂😂
Clown 🤡
I would not be surprised if Corey just decided to leave the band and continue on with his solo band, especially with his recent break down. It just seems like a Toxic environment within the band - and it’s been that way for a long time
But everybody knows if Corey Taylor left the band that band would probably disintegrate but unlike the other members Corey Taylor has his own project he's doing that is successful
I used to think that Corey was a big part of the ongoing problem but after his most recent video, he certainly doesn't look like he's riding the high life.
He looks ill actually... and full of regret. 🤔
I often think of the line “You either die a hero, or you live log enough to see yourself become the villain.”
"live log"
"live log"
Please don’t write a Batman related quote on a slipknot comment section
@@shamelesskindness first , “I’m Batman.”
Second, Slipknot is nothing more than a comic book band. So it is fitting
@@Glitchfaction no they are lower than comic book, a toilet read possibly
Paul: "Without one of the members it just doesn't work."
How right he was.
I know the exact reason why Slipknot will never ever fire Corey like the others, Cos we all know that Corey would never stay quiet about it and would reveal everything that we’ve been wondering about since Joeys firing and following events since then. He is nicknamed “The Great Big Mouth” after all.
That’s a very good theory but I’m pretty sure clown has it in paperwork that if Corey were to ever tell what really happened he’d sue the shit out of him
Corey is definitely in on it with clown.
Or maybe because he's the lead singer and all of the songs they do at shows are performed by him. You know that most of the band members getting fired isn't corey and shawn's evil plan right? There are higher ups that run the band
@@Shumi80 I thought are now an independent band now that their roadrunner contract is up...
Rest in Peace Slipknot
October 31, 1996 - May 24, 2010
Ive always been a defender of Slipknot having 3 drummers since becoming a fan in 1999 - but with all thats happened with the band in the last decade and especially most recently it will never not be insane to me that the guy who contributes the absolute LEAST to the musical talent and impact of Slipknot is also somehow the one who has the most control over the band.
It kind of makes sense, if you view clown as a poster child of capitalism
@Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd Of course it had to be Capitalism.
Slipknot would've been much better today if they had started back in the Soviet Union like all the other great Communist artists out there!
@@Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd and boy do I. You said it perfectly
exactly what I was thinking.@@Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
THIS IS HOW CLOWN GETS HIS DRUMMER SON IN THE BAND..THAT'S WHY HE LET WEINBERG GO.....
I feel like Jay did truely want to represent Joey. I mean how could he not? He has stated multiple times how he looked up to him being a huge fan of the band. When they let Jay go, many people say “well drummers are easy to come by” but the truth is the drummers in this band are the heart. Jay knew it and kept it there, while not Joey, he did him right imo. To me them dropping Jay is another kick in the balls to Joey and og guys. Sucks to see.
Jay was so dang good for slipknot.
Spoiler Alert: Drummers are the heart of every single band and they are not easy to come by, actually quite difficult, especially a great one.
@@Job.Well.Done_01its funny that they fired Jay just like they did Joey. Clown and Coreys ego have yet again got the best of them. Got rid of not one incredibly talented drummer but two. Kinda running out of options now. They should just split up already its getting too hard to watch
Slipknot is not solely a band anymore.. Its a brand.. Its all about business..
Well bad press is bad for business
negative publicity is still publicity@@Ilovegirlfights2
No shit they like money🤯
This makes me love Korn so much more. Their last few albums have seen them go back to their roots, kick all kinds of ass and really cements their legacy. That is an example of a brotherhood, Slipknot is an example of a business
They have been hitting out of the park since Brian came back.
Paul and Joey are rolling in their graves right now.. I love Slipknot but they're pretty much done at this point. Give it another 5 years they'll have their farewell tour.
Nope sons will take it over basically Vended will blend in and slowly more and more people will be replaced. As long as people go to shows they will continue in some form. Unfortunately.
Ego's will destroy a band.
100%
Money money money. What happened to the days of brotherhood and unity? These guys have dominated the metal scene for so long, why would anybody want any more money than they already have?
Are you happy with your paycheck?
@@Ottophil dude, obviously, he didn’t mean anyone, but more so people as successful as the members of Slipknot.
Greed
Money Money Money Money Money Money To Buy You Thing's, Daddy's Going To Buy You A Diamond Ring GO!
(Shout Out To PRIMUS) 🤪
nothing can match Taylor's voice. even after all these years i haven't hear anything like it.
He's legit the best metal vocalist of all time imo. I'm sure people will disagree but damn his voice is legit iconic. He has the range, the melody, and used to have the anger. The opening scream of people = shit changed my world as a 14 year old.
Nik Nocturnal made a Slipknot song from scratch. The vocalist can mimic Corey Taylor very well. Check it out.
We will never hear the real reason why Craig left the band since he never says anything to anyone...
Well, dude said "if he wasn't in Slipknot he would be a serial killer." So, I think we know what he's up to.
maybe jones just wanted to retire
@@shepshe66 that's possible. But, I like to keep all options open. Just in case. You can never be too sure. The moment you put your guard down, that's when they strike. To attack when you least expect it. So I'm always expecting. We aren't dealing with regular men. But, controllers of who lives and who dies. I've seen it with my own eyes. No one is safe. You have migrants here, traitors in the places of power, false doctrine being taught to the people, we are the people but have no choice. Your government lies to you. Your media lies to you. Your teachers lie to you. Your friends lie to you. This isn't just for you but to all of us. Who can you really trust?
@@shepshe66 possible. But, you can never be too sure. When your guard is down, that's when they get you. Through experience, we aren't dealing with regular men. They were meant to be the kings. Rule the masses. Take the risks. And keep their systems clean. These are their lyrics. My original comment was deleted or removed for a reason. We don't even have the ability to speak. Always be aware and observant.
All I'm saying is that we will probably never hear the truth about why he left, at least not from him directly..
At this point , this band doesnt matter anymore. Gone are the golden days. Once sid is out this band is dead... forever.
I'd say if Jim or Mick leave then it's over. They're both very vital to the band.
Exactly once Sid is gone it’ll be the last straw
i think Jim writes most of the music
BIG INFLUENCE ON OUR BAND..............BUT AFTER JAY I'M FKING OUT
Jay was fired for a reason lol.
@@chrisflynn9695 people are being such babies about this like metal bands never fire anyone
he's making a real clown out of himself and the band
How can someone who bangs on trash and keg cans have any say…🤦🏻
Because he started the band... Dumb question 🤦🏻♂️
He's a clown......need to say more....
Pretty sure he writes music and some other shit as well?
Slipknot doesn't sound like Slipknot anymore
Slipknot has become a company more than a band
So much to say about this.
Slipknot’s debut album hit like a freight train!
Disasterpiece live in London 2002 is iconic.
Their music started to lose its sharp edge after AHIG.
Paul’s death really knocked them on their heads. Joey was never the same after that and I would argue the entire band wasn’t the same overall after Paul died.
The press conference they had after Paul’s death was sobering/telling.
I think Jim Root and Mick Thomson are the legs of Slipknot and without them it goes nowhere after the debut album.
I think at its peak, Slipknot had full control of the game, but they were trapped in a bad contract that created huge issues/stress/aggravation.
I’m sure there were talks of breaking up all throughout the bands tenure.
Slipknot stuck around for a long, long time.
They were at it before the new millennium arrived, and they kept at it for a LONG time.
Too bad what’s happened with so many original members.
Thank you to Joey, Paul, Chris Fehn, Craig, and Jay for their huge contributions in carrying the flag of Slipknot.
Because of this band, heavy metal maintained a place in the music industry when top-40 was smothering everything out.
Slipknot may not be finished yet, but they’re limping along and I hope we see them return.
WANYK and the last album were good idk what you want
I think Corey Taylor is starting to hate himself and the state of slipknot currently. Lets be honest, Slipknot at the beginning of their career would hate what the slipknot of today has become.
The only member (Employee) that seems to have any integrity here I have respect for is Jim Root...... I'm surprised he is still here even by his choice. Anyone with me????
Maybe because hes on Clown's goodside and hes earning fatter checks than the other guys
I think the band's in some financial trouble. Hence, all the shedding of the band members. Law suits aren't going to help, and the poor way they communicated with fans has pissed off a lot of dedicated maggots, who in turn will spend less money on Slipknot.
Chris left the band under 5 months before WANYK was released so Im pretty sure he plays on that album! Most albums by major bands are recorded, mixed and mastered months before its released. Does anybody know?
Nothing against Shaun Crahan, i know his image is a massive part of Slipknot and he does alot behind the scenes when it comes to there artwork, imagery and promotion, but thats the thing i dont get overall why he isnt just that, behind the scenes, i meen think about this, can you name another musician in the metal scene or other that is in a band that contributes so little musically to there band?
Joey wrote all the music with Paul contributing some
The band’s sound changed drastically after these two
Were no longer involved and with that the band
Was finished
Micks wife acts like a core member of the band and something about that just rubs me the wrong way
As a core member of the band that was pretty instrumental in forming their sound, Joey's departure wasnt something to go unnoticed. The man deserved better, alot better. Paul really seemed to be that glue, as far as a brotherhood goes. The Fuck Clown?*
*actually looking forward to where Crahan takes everything. Thought their latest album had a nice sound to it. Curious where it goes
Love the music, but man, they keep booting all the good members. Joey leaving was bad, but Jay's departure is the cherry on the topping. I will no longer buy merch, albums, or concert tickets anymore.
Totally callous what they did to Joey. RIP JJ
It’s kind of weird to say there’s misinformation about the founding of slipknot 20 years later. 🙃
They should've broke up when Paul died. 💯
Yeah they should have just let Slipknot rest at that point :( I think Paul would be more happy if his bandmates are mentally healthy than to keep going.
We all still absolutely love the Slipknot music!! Don't we?? I know I do.
I been a maggot since 99 and I'm getting very distrustful in them
Slipknot never deserved Joey...what a talent, what a humble guy
Sad situation all around due to a severe lack of self-awareness and empathy while ironically there was no lack of selfish greed. RIP Paul and Joey.
They are a perfect example of why some bands should know when it’s time to hang it up. They are an empty shell of their self. Like a hot topic Wal mart metal brand. Let it go already. It’s been painful to watch since after All hope is gone. It literally was gone at that point
The last album was good chill
my honest opionion, yes they’ll fall off, but they will for ever hold the legend of being slipknot. what they were before the shit started to happen was memorable and legendary
Those first three albums hit. Slipknot power
I hope Corey doesn't read all the stuff here. It'll send him into depression and relapse.
You addressed everything perfectly! Just how it's feeling for now. I'd love to feel differently but this is what I see. It's what we all are seeing.
I was already broken when Joey got fired. I stopped listening to anything slipknot after that for years. My love for them came back about 3 years ago. And I really warmed up to Jay, but man, you can tell the band is more money focused. Like seriously the music isnt the case anymore. After they[ or whoever pulled the trigger on that] fired Jay, that's was it for me. " I think we're done, I'm not the only one! " I dont feel good about anything that will come from slipknot in the future. You know it's bad when wearing a shirt doesnt feel good because of all the shit....
Really good video, I’m one those original fans who’s grown very distant to them now
I think Shawn is the boss and corey has to just accept whatever Shawn does.
This was said about Jay leaving the Band. But word by word on what they said about Joey also.
Ill never forgive corey for trashing david silveria.
What?!!! That's a joke. Right?
Silvera treated Korn like shit post him leaving and said awful shit to JD once his wife passed away.
Slipknot lost a piece of its soul after Gray's death, the callous, cowardly sacking of Joey was the final breath of that soul leaving the body.
Crahan is, imo, the problem. The guy has a chokehold on the members, so nobody dares speak up until they've been fired. We'll be left with a geriatric Crahan amongst 8 constantly revolving members. I despise Crahan and Taylor for what they've done to that band. Slipknot was special, it had something that no other band had... Crahan and Taylor shat all over it in their self-centred, ego-driven greed.
Paul’s death took the heart of the band and Joey’s dismissal took the backbone with him. Now we have a spineless and heartless band that feels like a corporation more than as a band. The morale of us fans is at an all time low. You can see it in literally any comment section on any website or social media app. Truly sad
Slipknot is a corporation and not a band anymore. It really is such a shame.
Honestly I truly respect Jay for continuing to enjoy his life, doesnt post drama bullshit. He just kept moving forward, growing his brand name and do his thing.
But fuck clown and the shadyness honestly.
Agree. Jay chose the high road and immediately landed on his feet. He's now playing with Infectious Grooves and the likes of Trujillo. He seems to have a good career ahead of him.
I want to pop into the universe where all 9 original members are still alive and making music together.
there were never 9 original members. by the time the 9-member lineup was solidified, a shit-ton of members had already come and gone.
it will all depend on the next music they produce! if its excellent, people will love them! If Not the controversy will get bigger!
IM NOT GONNA MAKE IT
I've followed Slipknot since I was a child. Sad to see it go down like this.
Years ago they've stopped being a band, now they're just a brand... Sad but true...
Slipknot should bow out. It's terrible to see it happen this way.
The music is good why would they
I am so over the Slipknot Drama! I think Clown has a higher stake in the band these days. It seems like he makes all the calls anymore. This band has been going to shit since Paul’s death! He was the glue that held these guys together.
As a huge Slipknot fan, this makes me so sad. Honestly we don’t know what happened behind the scenes, all we can do is speculate with the information we have which isn’t much. I will always love Slipknot for their music they have made over the years, but the handling of their “departures” and firings has honestly left a bad taste in my mouth.
2009 was the last good year for slipknot. I think if the same goes down for mick or Jim they are done for good
Joey murió solo como un perro tirado en su cama, me da una bronca tremenda
I've been a fan since I saw Slipknot play Ozzfest in 2000. Fast forward to 2024 and it's funny how half of Corey Taylor's solo performances consist of playing Slipknot music, yet nobody else in the band is allowed to profit from a side business that includes anything related to Slipknot. I'm fairly positive the reason he canceled his recent tour in America is because nobody likes his solo material and he wasn't selling tickets. By "wasn't selling tickets" I'm saying he wasn't selling out arenas like he expected to. Corey Taylor and Sean Crahan are nobody without Slipknot. I'm fairly positive Jay was fired so he could be replaced with Sean's son. If that's the case I'm definitely done with this band. Their new material sucks and I'm unwilling so support narcissists.
I’m not defending clown but I remember seeing that the OG’s decided to let jay go that it was a group decision, probably something deeper happened, doubt they just let him go for no reason
All out life live at wacken was a life changing experience. The song went into my all time top 3 of any genre
About Joey being a founding member, Clown said in an interview back in 2000 that it was him and Paul who founded the band
I couldn’t care less about Slipknot.
Cared so much to click on the video and comment 🤷 clearly you care
I do appreciate you using the saying correctly. Most people say "could care less." I cringe everytime.
I've had a gut feeling that my favorite band was on a slow downhill spiral since Joey "left" the band. It seems like that spiral has been speeding up since 2020. I hope they pull through regardless but it doesn't seem likely at this point. Bummer man...
I understand having critique of the band for switching members, however the vast majority of departures sound like there was actual reasons behind them. Joey, while being an amazing drummer and a huge part of their sound, also sounds like he had many issues he was not able to keep under control while being with them. They went pretty hard no substance abuse after Pauls death and reports are that he was still on some. Chris had his spat about money, which whos right? Whos wrong? No one will ever know without seeing the contracts they all had. Craig seemingly left the band on his own accord. And finally theres Jay. This one seemed so weird at first. But in light of a lot of information thats come out about him as a person, some things make sense. First off, he likely even got the chance because of his father (nepotism). If you look at the bands he played for previous the Slipknot, he was actually kicked out with the members calling him out for being impossible to work with and being a diva. Sounds like character issues to me. After having Jay be their drummer for 10 years, perhaps they also got sick of his behavior. Theres also reports from the sound crew that HE couldnt even keep up love properly. Combine all these issues, is it really a surprise they'd look somewhere else?
shit started going downhill after ahig, pretty ironic name. They started doing a lot more marketing like knotfest, more interviews, plus the shit with Chris, it was the start of slipknot becoming more of a brand rather than a band. that continued into wanyk, with knotfest at sea, and now a fucking Minecraft server for fuck sake. They've lost their roots and become what they despised to be when they first started.
It was all marketing BS from the beginning.
Slipknot is already not a band , it's a shitty business
I have loved and adored Slipknot for over 22 years. But now the band I loved is nothing more than a brand.
I think after Joey's expulsion everything slowly fell apart.
It's just sad!
When did Craig jones cited health issues? when he left, I was heartbroken
Slipknot is not a band,it's a music company who recruit musicians and also fire's them
Its all about the money
All about the dumdum dumdie dumdum
I do think its funny
To see them fade away
😂
Clown always seemed like an angsty little egomaniac.
I stopped caring a long time ago when they kicked out Joey, a huge inspiration for me since the first album. When I heard they recently kicked out Jay who was also a beast, I realized there's something very wrong with the band. Someone in one comment section somewhere said that Corey intends to bring in his son on vocals eventually and Shawn his son on drums to carry on the band and I don't think that is that farfetched.
For someone that doesn't care you wrote quite a paragraph
If their kids take over Slipknot im done
Slipknot are even worse than Kiss
Crahclown and egotaylor are a joke