This is What Happens When You Buy a Guitar Off eBay | Trogly's Unboxing Guitars Vlog #86
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
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0:18 - Unboxing #1
3:58 - Unboxing #2
5:44 - Unboxing #3
7:55 - Unboxing #4
10:39 - Boxing #1
12:24 - Boxing #2
13:38 - Boxing #3
📚 Description: It always seems the filthiest, worse-packed, not-as-described guitars always come from eBay. My theory is people who are not that into musical instruments (selling for a friend/relative) don't know about Reverb so they list on eBay. However, now that ebay has lower fees on used electric guitars - maybe their seller pool will get better! At least they had the courtesy to wrap this case in cardboard, but at the end of the day - this package would not have survived rough handling! We also unboxed 3 other great guitars!
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At least they wrapped it to protect the tolex! Nothing worse than just a case just showing up with no protection
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Good thing that the headstock is ok.....bad boxing 🥊🥊🥊
Do that chris cornell signature dude!!!! Cant wait
@@meatrocket1 Same here..
Have a funky synthsonic headless guitar
That nice
Bought a guitar off ebay from a seller with 50 good reviews and well he hand delivered the guitar the same day, drove 2 hours through snow to get it to me, so i have only ever had one experience on ebay and well it was great.
That's cool he did that for you! And I am glad he did because the more hands you can take off of a valuable guitar during transit the better right? I know when I finally get my money saved for my custom I will not let it be shipped I'm driving to pick it up for sure, awesome your guitar and experience was good keep ripping brotha!🎸
I probably bought 25 Gibsons off Ebay between 2008 and 2016 and never had a bad experience. Of course I only bought from sellers in this country who had been selling onsite for years and had 100% seller ratings. That way I never had to go thru any bs.
Same goes for me. I've only purchased three eBay guitars but so far so good. I still get nervous though and am probably done pressing my luck.
And well did you have a cup of coco ready for him when he arrived? Well?😁
I used eBay to sell a mechanical keyboard. It's weird because a day or two later I had a severe case of identity fraud. Fuck eBay lol
I can't believe some people have the nerve to ship a 70s Les Paul Custom like that. It doesn't matter if you don't know much about guitars...
I got a $2000 guitar in just the case with a label on and a t-shirt inside the other week..
Yeah, crazy...
If i were to ship one, I'd probably over do it, haha
@@CaptainCraigKWMRZ I hear ya!
Seeing it makes me even more confident that the three piece maple necks with a volute that Norlin did in the late 70s really were effective in reducing headstock breaks and really the right thing to do.
It's because some of us do not make a living selling items , some people just genuinely have 1 guitar they are willing to let go and they need the cash, no money for extra packaging
I've had more issues with Guitar Center shipping than eBay shippers
yes and guitar center for me atleast dont package for shit
No musician's friend is the worst. I bought a $380 from musician's friend. They just threw the guitar in the shipping box with few paper padding.
@@stevetubvang3034 thats exactly what guitar center did and they gave me a guitar with no back play or truss rod cover and my shit was around the 600 dollar price range
Steve Tub Vang Guitar Center owns Musicians Friend. Makes sense. Lol
@@ejsinner1520 damn lol
I recently imported two guitars made in France from France and Switzerland. Both were shipped using UPS; UPS slaps an additional charge for taking care of custom duties. Guitars I purchased from Japan were shipped via EMS and delivered by USPS. USPS is a cheaper way as they just bring the the invoice to pay.
For some reason, people seem to hope better prices on Reverb. Never had a problem with Ebay.
Austin, check the finish under that felt pad, my 60's LP had a little bit of felt checking / pitting.
I love that flying V.
That color and the sparkle/iridescent finish are to die for.
I love those modern Flying V's and really wish they were popular (I'd love it if Gibson or Epiphone made them as just part of their normal line of instruments).
Yes and no to the eBay vs reverb situation. I was buying and selling guitars on eBay about a year after they appeared on the internet. Yes, a lot of sellers there don't know much about guitars and shipping. However I have also noticed that most sellers on reverb inflate the price of used instruments. I like that gold top with the p90s.
You should show more footage of you cleaning the guitars
I'd love to see you review a Yamaha Revstar RSP20CR...the rusty rat is a cool looking one, but painting/colors aside, I'd love to see what you think about how it compares to a LP or any other guitars.
I bought a beautiful new "Frampton Epiphone Limited Edition Les Paul Custom" from Musician's Friend. It was packaged well, no damage and the set up was flawless. Nicest neck that I have ever played on an electric. If packaging is bad from places such E bay, it is most often the fault of people not doing a diligent job in take care of the guitar before shipping. If they are going to sell something, it is their responsibility to make sure it is packaged safely.
No protection in the case, wrapped in cardboard, and leave the handle sticking out?
The fact that the guitar arrived alive is good advertising for that case!
I've bought and sold a number of guitars on eBay over the past 15 years, and the only problem I've ever had was a DeArmond that arrived with a cracked headstock about 11 years ago. I bought it for about $65 & just parted it out and made a small profit. If you check out the sellers before you buy from them, ask questions, look at the pictures and know what you're buying you'll be fine buying on eBay.
If you don't you're likely to get screwed over no matter where you buy.
I really love that Modern Flying V. I've always been a fan of the Flying V ever since I saw Randy Rhodes play one. Although I don't care of the V2, the Modern V looks like a piece of Mid-Centruy Modern art.
I'm so happy for you that your first unboxing survived! I've purchased a lot of diecast models off of eBay and some sellers are clueless when it comes to properly packing items for shipping. Fortunately I've been able to repair the models and usually the seller refunds some or in one case all of the money and I get to keep the diecast!
I bought an AX40 Sterling by Music Man off of eBay when I was in high school. The guitar came wrapped in a bunch of brown paper and puffy plastic without a box or case. The headstock was obviously cracked when I unwrapped it.
That absolutely sucks. My condolences. Was it made right with the shippers? Did you get compensated? Damn, these are some nightmare stories.
Would love to see an episode of 60s Gibson Models that don't cost a fortune! Some obscure ES models etc that haven't appreciated to the same extent as Les Pauls et al.
Not necessarily reviews, just a shopping style episode showing off the models, availability and pricing.
I second that. I prefer Fender electrics, but I’m really fascinated by ES-125s, ES-175s, and the different variations of them from the 50s and 60s. My favorite guitar shop currently has a 1957 ES-140T that I’m really interested in. It looks like an ES-175 with the Florentine cutaway, it has one P-90, the T in model name means it’s a thinline, and it is a short scale.
@@charlesbolton8471 sounds wonderful
You're talking about Reverb. I have a Reverb story. A couple of years ago, I spotted a "pretty rare Fender Squire Telecaster bass" from the early 1970's. It looked beautiful from the pictures, so I broke my Cardinal rule about buying instruments online. I went ahead and ordered it. Got excited I guess. Well, when it got here, I unboxed it, actually no box. Just shipped in the case. No lock, nothing. So I pulled it out, and really was pretty nice. Finish was in great shape. Action was pretty high, on the edge of being unplayable. Ok, that's not a problem since I've been doing my own setups for many years. So I plugged it in, and nothing. Checked everything, still nothing. Electronics were shot. I had a friend help and he ran the serial number. Turns out it's not early 70's, it was a 2012. Everything was wrong with the deal. I tell everyone to stay away from Reverb. Nothing but lies and a ripoff.
I have a 95 Les Paul studio lite, mine is the transparent blue finish. Mine has a birdseye top under that finish. I haven’t seen any others of that specific model with the Birdseye. So every once in a while I think they throw something extra good into things sometimes. I envision it as like an Easter egg for the buyer.
Cool paint/finish on that V, yes I am with you.on unique and may not be made again, or to stay limited
Are you going to review the new epiphone 59 being made with the GCS
Yep, that's pretty much my dream guitar too. Nothing or No one turned me on to guitar and rock as slash on AFD!
that gold top just exploded out of the case, nice! looking good
I just bought a Jazz Bass on ebay, and the transaction, packaging, and shipping were flawless. I couldn't be happier.
I know you got a bunch of guitars you wanna review but I would not mind you reviewing vintage models you have done before like that sunburst custom.
Wow I was not expecting to fall in love with the finish on that modern flying v but omg!
wanted to ty, I usually stick to local CL or Reverb. But I started looking on Ebay once in a while after some of ur vids, found a LovePedal Super Sic Tone Ive been looking for at half the price anywhere else (mint/box etc).
i love knowing that everyday sometime between 9 pm and 3 am i can expect a daily dose of guitar information
I received a Gibson Explorer once, through FedEx, that was shipped in only its case. Not one piece of cardboard or bubble wrapped. Just the case with the guitar in it. The case was damaged but the guitar was OK.
Not surprisingly, the previous owner had not taken much care for the instrument and it was filthy. The case was full of dust, cat hair, crumbs, etc.
Nice score on the 70s Paul!
Wow! Tobacco burst is my favorite burst, that and the honey burst!...Gold Tops are my all time favorite though
Looking forward to the Chris Cornell model review. I remember when the first run came out and also the Dave Grohl model. I couldn't quite afford them at the time....now I definately can't afford them. I do have a 2014 model Trini Lopez though that I paid more than the new price for, but much less than what they go for now. I love the Trini Lopez, I just hope it's value doesn't shoot up too high in the future because I'd hate for it to become too expensive for me to justify owning.
The Cornell 335 sounds great with the lawlertrons,I'm a metal/alternative player.But,I definately want to get a pair of lawlertrons.And Trogly rocked it in the demo.👍
"Shipping accidents"; Way back in 79 I left my amp and 65 Fender Musicmaster II at my friends house after we jammed on a weekend. I came back the next week to jam and he looked really nervous. Turns out, his Mom got mad and tossed his Gibson SG and my Fender out the front door. My WAS NOT in a case but his was. Other than a paint chip, my bolt neck Fender was absolutely fine. His SG which was in the case, had a crack in the body at the neck joint.
I bought a 1982 Yamaha SG 1000 from an eBay seller in Japan ( I am in U.K.) which was quite expensive. It took about 6 weeks to arrive and I was worried it would be damaged in transit. I needn’t have worried. The guitar itself was tightly wrapped in bubble wrap, then placed into a padded gig bag with no room to move, then placed into a cardboard guitar shaped box which was then placed into a very thick cardboard outer box padded with brown packing paper.
It was perfect 👍
Looks like you got several interesting guitars in for your box opening. Cant wait to see the review on all of them. Especially the gold top the tobacco burst and the modern V. The modern V seems to glow several colors in the right light a d in different angles. I'm curious also about the Chris Cornell ES335 being that he was close to my age I feel I had some of the same influences of different artists. Mainly because of his style in playing was similar to mine. The tobacco burst in ways reminds me of an early 70s Electra my oldest brother owns . Makes .e wonder if Gibson didnt borrow from other manufacturers as well as they borrowed from Gibson in style. Have you done a video on how to read the numbers on a Gibson and does it also apply to other brands under Gibson such as Epiphone?
I received a Charvel 375 Deluxe in an oversized box uncased. It had one wrap of bubble wrap around it and the trem arm still on the trem sticking through the side of the box. Somehow the guitar was unharmed. Ordered a Marshall combo from a store in Cleveland, OH. I live in KS. It showed up with a 1X2 sticking into the front of the amp and broke off even with the outside edge of the box. That one was odd. One other time I ordered a hardshell case for a Michael Kelly and the case was totally destroyed. Only way I see that kind of damage is if it was driven over somehow as it was flattened. No tire tracks on the box though.
I remember when my case looked be like that!🤣🤣
9:50 that flying V looks more like a Star Trek logo hahaha
I've purchased several guitars on eBay - and they arrived in perfect condition. Of course, they came from different people and weren't all packed just the same as one another - but still - no problems...
I love the first LP, the gold hardware and tailpiece.
I agree about that modern V...pick one up before they're gone and prices go through the roof on em!!
"when you buy a guitar off ebay" proceeds to show us multiple expensive guitars just to make us feel miserable
I love the fact that they had volutes on them, didn't hear much about headstock breaks back then. I wish Gibson would put volutes on all their guitars, it would save a lot of money and heartaches for we Gibson lovers.
I think a lot of us would be very interested in how you clean your guitars back to almost new spec. What tools and products used especially...
I have a 2020 November Burst and I love it, my first Lester, I'm a tele guy, and it's killer. the color is unreal
My local shop had one of those Chris Cornell from the last run and I noodled around on it. It was right after his death and the prices on anything to do with him automatically doubled, just like when EVH passed away. But I did run it through it's paces and it was the first time I have ever played Lollar p/u's. They're definitely their own unique tone, that much is certain. Thru a Fender Twin reissue it really had a sweet tone with a little reverb and a touch of delay. But the price was unbelievable. They were asking $9,200 for it. I think they've come back down a little, but not much.
Got my explorer on eBay and it had only one spot of damage, but with how well it was packed, it probably happened before or during packaging, not shipping. Asking the seller for specs and info will get you an idea of how used to instruments they are.
I've had multiple solid body guitars shipped just in the case. I even asked for it a few times because some people are confused on finding the right box. If it's a guitar case it's no longer just a box and those UPS or USPS workers are less likely to throw it around anyway. A hard shell case will protect it. Les Paul though, a bit more dangerous.
I had so much fun watching this video I wish I had every one of those Les Paul's and that new Flying V but hey down to what I want to ask you where do you get all the guitar boxes cuz I need some 2Pac guitars and ship them thank you love your videos Man
Those late 70's Les Pauls were known to be anchors ( very heavy guitars ) .
The Flying V is so cool. That weird shape and trippy color is awesome
At least it came in a case! The electric guitar i bought from ebay just came wrapped in bubblewrap !!! It is actually a nice guitar, a Squier Jagmaster.
Man. I don't think you get the recognition you deserve for how well you edit videos and setup this system. Thank you for such well made videos, and the work you do. Always look forward to them, and you.
It maybe different in the UK but i've bought 2 guitars off of Ebay and both were well done. 1 Was in a soft case and a box with lots of bubble rap and the other came with a hardcase for free, boxed and heavy filling.
Everyones experience is different though. Love the content as usual bro
Thanks Austin. Always great to watch as usual.
at least it's in a case. had bought off ebay a few months ago myself. Luckily had no surprises, was decently packed by seller - in a rectangular outter box (didn't include case in sale, as was listed..)
In 2007,I bought my favorite guitar off Ebay. A 1995 US Hamer Vanguard. Beautiful, fine player. I’ve bought several guitars off Ebay without a problem ever..
Damnnn after seeing that glitter in the moderne V, the blue lightning tommy thayers les paul looks like some childs toy.
Have order 3 guitars on ebay. All arrived safely mainly because they all came with good ABS cases. Good cases are the key.
I once received a trumpet "packed" just like that one-- wrapped in cardboard with the handle protruding! Believe it or not, it and the case were OK!
Yo dawg I heard you like sunburst so I sunburst your back and your neck and your headstock too!
sheesh lol.
The flying v is incredible
It’s supposed to look like the logo from Star Trek
Bought a camera lens from what ended up being a pawnshop. At the time it was vaque who the seller was. It was supposed to be an exact match to my camera according to Ebay and the seller. You guessed it. Apparently it was for an older model DSLR camera and actually I believe it was actually more for an SLR rather than a DSLR as the locking mechanism didnt match.
@Douglas Bedore was supposed to be used but somewhat new. It's made by Sigma. I know they make lenses that match up but as I said it's obviously for an SLR not a DSLR. Since nothing lines up.
I bought my dream guitar this summer off of Reverb and the shop packed it like the first one.
I was just talking about the modern flying v yesterday
I received a guitar through the mail once wrapped only in transparant bubblewrap. No bag, box or case....just bubblewrap and a bit of tape. It actually was completely fine, which surprised me enormously.
Also surpised the postoffice would actually accept a package like that.
The flying V......the body is the star trek logo shape👍
Yeah I think Austin could be right about that modern V being a sleeper model because of people like me. People who waited for years to own a Gibson and when we get older we want to reminisce a little bit and there it is! I remember when Gibson first brought those out and I was just getting into guitars and wow I thought that was such a cool guitar and here I can finally buy one cause this guy in California is selling his!! I have never really been attracted to the V but for some reason I really like the modern one. The only thing I can see right now that I would mod on it would be that I would try to put on one of those original V tailpieces, you know the big V shaped gold/brass ones? But I don't know if there is enough room because of how much smaller of a body this one is. Recently on Glenn Frickers show, earlier today (Friday Oct. 20, 2020) actually! Again the topic of cheap vs expensive guitars came up and again Glenn said that with the way they are making cheaper guitars today there is no reason to buy the Gibson name and to pay a couple of grand for a guitar you can get from someone NOT Gibson for a few hundred dollars. I think I can see where this is all headed, we live in a throw away time period and that's why the cheap guitar market is booming. I am guilty of it to a point myself. I argue with the Gibson fanboys all the time about why I am just as likely to buy an Epiphone over a Gibson. I just got a brand new Epiphone 60's tribute model and of all the brand new guitars I have purchased in the last 7 years ( about 12-15 guitars in total) this Epiphone is THE best one yet!! I try talking to the Gibson fan boys and a of buddies of mine about why this Epiphone is just as good as a Gibson yet I only paid $650 for it and at that price I even got a hard case! Gibson pickups (57 classic N, 57 classic+ B) Grover tuners, real Bone nut, Switchcraft 3 way, quality wiring, CTS pots (real CTS) 4A flame maple top (veneer), Push/pull tone pots with coil splitting and in/out of phase and a hard case, $650!!! No blemishes, frets are great, finish is flawless, no off center screws. Yes I know in a few years if I tried to sell it I might get $300 if I am lucky because it's an Epiphone and at the same time a brand new Gibson I could get close to the original asking price, sometimes more depending on the model. But as we all know, every guitar maker goes through a period of selling not quite up to par instruments, so when those begin hitting the cheaper model guitars, what is going to happen then? Buy what you like, like what you buy - is my motto.
Never thought about wrapping a guitar in a box like that!
The finish on that Flying V is really cool!
Modern Flying V looks more like the Star Trek symbol on the shirts of the crew and captain. As soon as I seen it that’s exactly what came to my mind.
Cool looking guitar though , and I can honestly say that’s the first time I’ve ever seen one.
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0:50 I had an eBay seller wrap the guitar in bubble wrap ONLY and send it through USPS. Fortunately it was a Gen 3 Chainsaw case so no damage but otherwise I would have been pissed.
Never nind Halloween, that was more like Christmas seeing those beauties' ...70s Paul and the 60 reissue are gorgeous' ...Modern V with all that sparkle wow ...save for those deep numbers at a gig...
Austin, have you ever reviewed any of the Gibson "Japan only" 2015 Flying V's? They're basically reissues of the late 70's model Flying V's which are almost impossible to afford now. I have one in heritage cherry. It's amazing. Just wondered what your thoughts were on them.
There’s a brand new modern Flying V at my local retailer. They’ve had it since it’s release. And it’s just never sold. They took it down for a while and had it stored elsewhere, so it wasn’t sitting out for 2-3 years? Don’t know if you’re looking for another one. I’m in Canada. If so, send me a message 👍. Take care!
Love the Chris Cornell guitar!
Would bw soo cool if you could make review and demo of old tele plus with lace sensor humbucker in bridge and single oil in the neck!
Bought a guitar on "REVERB" . Was well boxed and had bubble wrap. When I opened the guitar case the headstock was broken off. It was mailed through the USPS. So I would put the blame on the shipping handlers.
That happens when they drop the box from a height. Happened to me once. No amount of brilliant packing can prevent that! My customer claimed his insurance $$ and hired a luthier, who did a seamless repair. So he got his guitar for the price of the work!
At least yours had cardboard. I bought a Tacoma Thunderchief bass on EBay. The seller threw a tag on the handle of the case, and that's how it showed up at my door. Plenty of real estate there for Tolex shredding...for sure. WOW!
I have a '78 Deluxe in Cherryburst that does not have a burst on the back. The back and neck finish look very similar to that gold top. Its one of the best playing (and heavy) Les Pauls ive ever played, though. I'd love to know the weight on that first LP in the video.
I will watch just about any unboxing video. My Martin D16E (acoustic guitar) has those "flames" (as you call them) on the top. In the acoustic world we call this visual imperfection on the top wood a "bear claw" (as it looks very much like a large (very large) bear claw). As this guitar ages more individual fingers of the bear claw become visible. Martin says the wood imperfections (it is "16" quality wood) do not affect the tone quality (so,so,sweet.) I can always at a glance of a group of similar "dreadnaught" style guitars (they can all start looking the same,can't they?) pick mine out in seconds.
Omg that v is insane! I’m not typically a modern style flying V person, but that looks incredible.
Flying V paint reminds me on a 1970's shagging wagon van. LoL
Still waiting for when you'll do some reviews on the music man guitars. Particularly the new sabre, which has the kind of flame and figuring that you seem to be attracted to.
I own the honey suckle burst and let me tell you it's one of the most active guitars I've ever seen in terms of figuring
That last Les Paul...
I think that's the most beautiful guitar I have ever seen.
I have had great luck on e bay you gotta pay attention to the language used and contack the seller
Honestly just had a bad reverb experience with packaging as well.. yikes people
Yeah, my first (and only so far) buy on reverb was packed terribly too.
I've sure had shipping problems with Reverb.
I started messaging anyone I buy with a link to reverb's packing instructions and even additional explanation in a message telling them that the box is likely to be dropped 10 feet multiple times and they practically TRY to destroy it. Even so I had one person send me a banjo in a box with a single crumpled up newspaper. It's so frustrating.
Ditto. Got a guitar not long ago off of reverb with some custom heavy strap locks. ..
....they were loose in the case on a vintage ibanez musician. The guitar looked like someone shot it 25 times with a bb gun. I've had better luck with ebay than reverb lately in terms of good deals, especially since you can still bid on real auctions on ebay, and I don't have some "rep" contacting me all the time from ebay telling me that I should call to further develop my "business plan".
My business plan is to stop selling guitars on reverb like I originally did with ebay.
Honestly I don't get it. I sent him photos of how it arrived and he still blamed it on UPS AND MYSELF which I thought was very strange. Didn't even reply, just left a bad review and warned others of the seller. Its all you can do sadly
Epiphone will be releasing an ES 335 Chris Cornell soon at about $649. As soon as I saw the case, I knew what you were about to unveil.
Some people have no business selling on ebay. I've had expensive stuff shipped in a Fruity Pebble box one time.
There are a lot of solid sellers on eBay. If you’re worried, check to see who it is before purchasing, check the buyer’s rating and maybe ask for insurance.
I would love to get an explorer with the same finish as a flying V
I really liked that eBay purchase/tobacco burst custom LP
I just got sent a guitar in only a cheap unfitted case, only got a small ding on the headstock.
I’ve really started to take a liking to the root bear flame tops something about them man… it’s growing on me
Been away for a while joce to be back .I love this channel..feels like commin home brotha
That first ebay guitar looked to me like it had come out of an Egyptian tomb the way it was wrapped.
I got an old Marshall 4x12 off eBay, it came with cardboard over the grill cloth and that was it....