A Viewer Sent Me a MYSTERY Vintage Les Paul! | What IS THIS?
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📚 Description: A viewer of the show is looking to sell off some guitars in his collection and decided to consign this mystery Les Paul with me. His access to photos was limited but I assumed it was some type of 70s Les Paul deluxe that had been modified. He thought it might've been a 1969 Gibson Les Paul Standard - but I had my doubts from the 2 photos I saw of the body. What is this guitar? Let us unbox it and find out!
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0:28 - The Mystery Les Paul / Unboxing
1:59 - First Impressions
3:22 - Case Candy
4:55 - Inside Look / Specs
20:53 - Blacklight / Weight
25:25 - Tone Demo (Clean)
28:00 - Tone Demo (Dirty)
31:37 - Final Thoughts
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It was fun checking out this “mystery” guitar. I’m happy that it turned out to be a “best case scenario” for the consignee!
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Ik freakin love it, ik also very very curious about the 295, as a big Scotty Moore fan....
Can you please document that one as Well??
It's not on your shop. did this sell already?
@@TooBarFoo Yep sold already ... Click the reverb link in his comment and you'll see
What kind of amp did you play through?
My buddy Doug Aldrich picked up a '68 Gold Top w/P-90s last year and as many GT's he owns, he's fell in love with. Still wish Henry didn't pull the Doug Aldrich Black Hornet model project. Talking to Doug's wife about that, yep my thoughts are true, Henry Jerk-No Wits was a jerk about the project like he was with Neal Schon
I for one would be suspect of a vintage guitar case that DIDN’T smell like smoke!
That smoke tells stories of clubs and gigs and life.
I can see the truth in that. It could also be some form of decoy.
Maybe it could've stayed at home, but even then, avoiding smoke in the 50s-80s sounds impossible.
@@ericbgordon1575 for a guitar that worked over, that thing has been over the mountain in one way or another.
That's true enough, @@Daddy53751. I think my décoy comment might have been meant in jest.
@@ericbgordon1575 😹 you wrote “decoy”
my favorite guitar channel
Hell yeah
Ditto
Literally like a college course on Gibson guitars that just never ends. Semester after semester we get videos that only get better and much more informative. Can't agree more, my fave channel to.... I actually used his internet service recently to confirm a 1964 Gibson SG Special was what I thought it was. Austin was correct and it was completely original. Austin suggested listing it for $4800 and to expect top sell it for $4000... It sold in 10 minutes for $4700...
Can't tell you how much I enjoy the forensics of documenting an unknown guitar!
You are becoming quite the Gibson detective Trogly!
He's a fraud
@@terryrobertson111 not sure why your saying that, I been watching him for a few years and his knowledge and advice is improving,
As far as the guitar I personally don’t care if it’s a true collector, I play the F*** out of guitars, I’d prefer one I’m not afraid to breath on.
@@terryrobertson111 he's not the number one expert, and I don't think he's claiming to be, but he's definitely a reliable source if you know how to research other than listening to just him.
I buy black Dollar Store flip flops to cut up for foam under my P90s. A little double-sided tape and good to go 👍
Great idea I bet that foam last for ever. I'm going to definitely use this idea on my new build I'm starting next weekend.
or an old mousepad
Dude dont do it in about 24 months that black fake rubber will turn to dust!! And it happens fast! China is incredible at making crap last just long enough! Don't thke my word for it , ask anybody who has done the same kind of stuff you just did. You think you have found a super cheap method for something and it will bite you in the butt, your guitar deserves better!!!
Trog,
Not to put any pressure on you,
If you don’t lay hands on the Violin Tele,
The enemy wins.
the strad telecaster, the stradocaster if you will
Thanks for the review Austin
The Seymour Duncan Antiquities are solid pickups no matter what style.
For a player instrument it looks and sounds pretty great.
Gotta love a Gold Top and P90s.
I hear you brother. A Goldie with P90's, what's not to love? All the best from (not so) sunny Blighty.
The gold paint was inside the holes that were drilled later for the P90s, so it has to be refinished
And the colour looks off.
@@HenritheHorse I agree the color does look off, however through the years each guitar's finish will age differently depending on how much sunlight it had been in as well as environmental conditions.
My personal favorite are the older Goldtops that have aged and taken on a gold/caramel color.
@@hkguitar1984 sunlight, and cigarette smoke, that can yellow the clear coat pretty significantly.
I agree.
@@hkguitar1984 I like the greenish goldtops!
I went to purchase the guitar.
And it's already been sold in less than an hour.
Wow, that was quick.
This guitar would have been a great purchase, who would have thought it would sell so quickly!
I'm not surprised, it sounded _awesome,_ especially with distortion.
@@pulaski1 unlikely. his distorted demos always sound like shrill garbage.
@@sethgross3904 Maybe it's your speakers/ equipment, .... or maybe you just don't like distortion, and that's OK, because Les Paul himself would have agreed with you, without a doubt.
@@pulaski1 must be a preference thing. I can’t even think of what those tones are similar to. I’m guessing user error.
Great and fun video to watch before I head off into work this morning, thanks Trogly! Having an older vintage guitar like this it's like having an old vintage classic car from around the same era. It's going to be hard to find it with its original paint but this looks like a pretty nice refinish. Still a great-looking guitar and sounds nice. It was coo and interesting watching you decipher everything and showing the clues for what types of pickups and the neck joint and headstock repair Etc well done!
More of these please! It’s great to see what one can do with a vintage husk and a lot of time
Great job sir, very interesting video. Mysteries are always fun!
That is not 50's wiring. Cap starts from the pickup leg on the pot hence not 50's wiring.
4:37 everything from that era, from guitars and garages to chairs and children had a slight cigarette smell to them. They were good for your health.
Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!
@@c.f.875 And yet... here you are! Hahahahahhaha
Thank you Detective Trogly !
What a beautiful guitar. I honestly loved this video, Trogly! I hope you make this into a series. Super interesting stuff. If I had the $, that Goldtop would be mine! I wish I never sold my P90 Goldtop…
It certainly has all the changes a player would make. I would love to own this it’s beautiful and less than a modern day custom shop. I’d take vintage any day. Antiquities can be superior to actual Gibson pickups too although it’s verboten to say that. Duncan P90s are my favourite pickups of all time.
$3,200 would be a top evaluation, I might add. With a guitar that has
virtually all new parts, I would recommend selling the case separately
to someone who owns a stock LP, and using a later case for this rebuilt
player-grade guitar.
This guitar is a 74 not a 69. I posted twice about it and Fraudly keeps deleting the post.
@@terryrobertson111 how do you know?
@@terryrobertson111 Nope, that's a 69. Open tops on the "b" and "o" in the logo, no volute, and no "Made in USA" stamp which are 69 specs and the transitional neck tenon was never used past the late 60s.
@@revgregory No dot in the "i" on the Gibson logo says it's not a '69. Also, headstock veneer has been replaced it seems. Looks like it was replaced by a cheap chinese replacement veneer. no MOP glow to it at all. Probably done when the guitar was refinished. As for the Made in the USA stamp, I've seen a few Gibsons from the 70's that left the factory without it. Gibson quality control it seems. My '74 Deluxe barely has the Made in USA impressed into the headstock, it's so faint. Also, my '74 barely has a volute. Almost non-existant. Again, Gibson consistency and quality control. Only way to tell for sure is to measure the headstock width. Late 60's headstocks were still kind of narrow. Early 70's were a little wider and by the late 70's they were huge.
@@terryrobertson111 100% '73-'75 and definitely a complete refinish. I agree that the headstock overlay looks replaced also. 891xxx serial number of this guitar dates it pretty definitively outside of 1969 also and puts it in the early-mid 70s.
Looks like somebody wanted their dads old guitar "refreshed" and some shop took em for a ride. put new gear in, then sold the vintage stuff afterwards.
You're becoming quite the guitar slinger as well as having a great CZcams channel! Something tells me those are screws in the headstock covered with crazy glue and baking soda.
Don't think it's a '69. I have a '69 LP GoldTop. It originally had P90's and was swapped out for '63 humbuckers (I knew the original owner before he had the work done). It isn't a sandwich (pancake body) guitar and has no volute. This is likely early '70, but it's hard to tell during transition years.
Yes. Pancakes didn't come in until the 70's. I bought one in '75. All the 68 and 69's I have ever seen were not pancake.
I'm wondering if after the head stock was broken, the guitar was stripped to a husk at that point.
I have a late 69 goldtop. I would have to say that I think the decal on yours was replaced. 69 LP are known to not have a dotted “i” in the Gibson logo. Also 69’s came with black knobs.
you're right. that's because it's a 74 not a 69.
@@terryrobertson111 ahhh, that explains it. Did you mention that in the video? How much did it sell for?
@@analogblues9606 I've posted twice on his page stating several facts as to why it's a '74 and not a '69 but he keeps deleting my posts,.
@@terryrobertson111 Wow! Sorry to hear. Btw, love your show!
@@terryrobertson111 Wow! Sorry to hear that. Btw, love your show. I’ve started my own channel and wondering if you’d give advice from time to time if I need help?
I'm pretty ignorant about vintage guitars but I can tell everything about my Gibsons (the oldest is a '93) just from the serial numbers. It even tells me the week it was finished and where. I'm guessing that wasn't the case back in the '70s?
1977 was the first year of the serial number that makes the most sense and is still used today
As an example of how confusing vintage and older Gibson serial numbers can be, Trogly has a 1977 LP Deluxe for sale that has an 8 digit serial number.
Right now I'm holding in my hand my original warranty card from my old 1977 LP Deluxe, the example I owned only had a 6 digit serial number!
Even the modern Custom Shop Les Paul R9 Re-Issues can be confusing as the serial number does not specify which Decade they were built! That is when era specific build specifications and potentiometer mfg. dates become seriously important.
Yeah there was literally an R8 on Norms channel they couldn't tell was a 2003 or 2013
I have an actual 68 gold top standard- I bought it in' 70 from a local player. He'd broken and rplaced the jack plate (non- Gibson). The orginal bridge bowed about 6 years later and I made the mistake of replacing it with a Stars bridge but that has held up. Also, the case- rectangular box with gold/yellow velour lining, lost it's orinal handle, and the clasps have worn and only one works. The later, more contoured cases made much better sense.
Can you take a look at the Larry Carlton Sire guitars? Are they worth the money? Been looking at their Les Paul copy.
Now that... that is my kinda LP. 69 is my birth year. I've got a Strat from '69 but always wanted a Gibson from that year too. I love me a Goldie, plus the P90 pups make it a win-win. I can always hear the difference when someone who's used to playing humbuckers switches to P90's. The little blighters are much more responsive to your pick attack & also revealing your mistakes lol.
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Funny he "wouldn't care" about this guitar's headstock repair when I've seen him backing off from better looking headstock repairs than this guitar when guitar hunting.
Were those guitars he backed off of collector pieces or players guitars?
More than likely he has a different set of criteria as a purchase to resell would be very different from buying a person instrument as a player.
He must be doing something right because his entire income s from buying and selling guitars with his CZcams gig to enhance his instruments visibility.
I've always enjoyed guitars and have been buying and working on them since 1974, even with all the knowledge I've gained through all these years I could never make a living brokering them as I reliably buy high and sell low........
I like the sound balance between the pickups and the quality of wiring. That is a working man’s guitar and you can make a lot of good music. I wish I had it, I have looked for a guitar like that. It is real and has” haints” in it The spirit of the Gibson from the greats who played them. Towards the end of your playing demo I got chill bumps.
2:10 i’m kind of a nut when it comes to the headstocks of Gibson’s because it’s my favorite when the headstock is perfectly sharp and proportional at the top and a lot of Gibsons have it and a lot don’t. My father has a 1990s SG that has the same thing. This Les Paul in this video is a perfect example of a nice headstock in my opinion.
It would be great to see more mystery Gibsons. People could send you their frankenstein guitars and you figure out what the started life off as. Great video.
I love how when you get a greenish yellow gold top against the green screen it becomes a coppertop. Which is also a good look 👀
Really love this one!
Great sounding!
Just had one of my goofy brainwaves. Trogly, could you potentially do a review of 2 guitars together, one being a run-of-the-mill 70s Telecaster and a standard Les Paul or SG of the same era? The coolest thing would be if you could examine both and draw any parallels between CBS (Fender) and Norlin (Gibson), as far as shortcomings of that timeframe when each company was owned by the respective conglamorate. Various details from different retrospectives have convinced me there are similarities.
THANK YOU, @Eddie Yarrow Eisman!
What a disaster headstock repair!
I've seen much worse that still surprisingly don't affect the guitar's tuning stability.
One of my friends has a 1980s Tokai Les Paul with a headstock break that looks like it was repaired by a couple of Kindergartners! Shockingly the guitar plays and sound fantastic, as such the ugly repair has remained unchanged since the 1990s for fear that messing with it or trying to fix it better may somehow effect or degrade the guitar's great playing and sounding condition.
@@hkguitar1984 I’m sure it still plays fine, but it looks absolutely terrible. If it were mine, I would have that repair repaired.
It's hard to judge a repair without seeing the mess you had to repair.
Great review Trogly! That guitar sounds great! Please review a Schecter USA PT - they are so good they will make you re-think Gibson and Fender!
These “detective” vids are my favorite!!!!
Yup. I'll remember these pups when I get my first LP style goldtop. It will not be a Gibson. I'm not huge into them as I am tooooo poor. Hahah. But I've heard and seen some extremely convincing epiphones and LTDs thankfully. Sounds good man. You have been playing a bit lately. Hahah.
Watching was well worth my time, and I learned a lot. Terrific review. Also, thanks for using some era-appropriate licks to showcase the SD pickups - very helpful.
im not finding it on the website? I was really hoping it was a 1970 because my birthdate is jan 4th of 70 . Great show as always Austin. God Bless
Well, I was there in the '60s and '70s and the gold top always seemed to sparkle to me. This one you said has a "lemony" paint job. I don't recall them showing yellow. It was a great guitar to play and you could get a kind of hollow-scream out of it. I'm a Fender man all the way but this was a fun guitar to play. I was 18 in '69 and I had my draft number.
Mine is showing lots-o-green...a true Goldtop.
@@alwaysopen7970 yea I’m surprised trogly didn’t comment on that. Most of the player level vintage gold tops I see have some green on them.
Today’s the first time that I’ve used earbuds to watch your show and I never knew you had X-Files type music playing in the background during your “black light” segment 😂
LOL
Excellent video, I love watching this channel… keep up the good work☘️
I swear every time I hear trogly start talking about the different parts of the guitar and then move onto the tone demos it puts me to sleep like a baby...in a good way. Just knocks me out every time
lol..me too!
I can’t believe that people don’t like the bigger headstocks. I get that they’re not traditional, but they’re so damn cool. I like the big 70s headstocks on fenders too though.
Large headstock with a volute - all day long!
Trogly add some Neil Young riffs sometime
Actually there were plates down in the bottom of the pickup route and the P90s floated through machine screws to go through the two holes in the middle ove the p 90s and floated on Springs mounted via the machine screws to those plates underneath
I purchased new, a 1968 LP Deluxe direct from the factory, thinking it would come with P90's but instead, it came with full-size humbuckers with black rings. Unfortunately, I sold it a few years later to buy an LP Custom (fretless wonder). Unfortunately, a few years later, I sold .... And it never ended. 😀
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I didn’t even know Gibson made a square Les Paul case
Very good review. However, the crown inlays are not pearloid acrylic like current Gibsons, but pearloid celluloid, used by Gibson up the the 2000's. Also, a Pro Deluxe us easy to spot, it's fitted with an ebony fretboard. Keep up the good work!
23:19 My guess is it runs through the broken piece and the rest of the headstock, probably because they had a hard time creating tension with a vice without it slipping so it helped prevent that and reinforce the repair. Not speaking from experience just a guess.
Imagine receiving a free vintage Gibson!
My mid 70s Deluxe is beat to hell due to actually using it for years. I acquired it in the early 80s and don't care about the finish or value of it. It has a big fat 50s neck carve and a previous owner routed out the bridge pup for a full sized humbucker; a common practice of that era. I installed Dunlop straplocks on mine to prevent a broken headstock.
Define "overspray". You tossed the word around so much it made no sense.
Flat case would make me run away; you can get a nice SKB or Gator on Amazon for cheap to make it look real.
30:12 that part of the jam gave me "Sure Know Something" vibes
Great video. I'm not really a Gibson guy, but I learn a ton from your videos! 👍
My 70s Ibanez LP had that bridge. The brass saddles were supposed to help with sustain. Anyways I’d rock the hell out of that guitar 😏
Hell yeah a new video, and a vintage Les Paul my favorite
I have a '69 Goldtop with P90s and mine and most others I've seen have the dot over the 'i' in Gibson missing. I think the Deluxes restored the dot?
so its a 1969 les paul. apart from the pickups, tuners, plastics, electrics, hardware and paintjob.
What a sweet player. That's the nicest playing demo I've ever seen you do. You might want to keep it.
I love my gold top Les Paul 57 replica. Also love playing it through my 120 w Orange.
Super cool video. This one is one of my favourites of yours
My 76 Deluxe has two anchors for each pickup. They have bushings set into the top similar to the tailpiece. I have a Wine Red which supposedly only 14 were ship in 76.
Love the older Les Paul guitars, thank you
If the headstock ain't broken, it ain't a real Gibson!
Growing up in that era, we as players using these guitars as tools had to remove a lot of the stock components because the replacements were so much better. Or so we thought.....
I love these Videos, you can tell that puppy was a work horse for more then one cat.
The stories it could tell. Thanks 😎
I got news for ya... That's exactly how you string a guitar back then AND today!
I'm a new subscriber and I absolutely love collecting guitars and watching your show hopefully one day I'll be able to afford a real Gibson and I know all the info I have learned from you will definitely help me in my purchase thank you so much
Congrats to the new owner!! Its an absolutely stunning example.
What's the riff starting at 30:49?
I'm guessing it's a good refret, u roll the edge of the binding to give the appearance of nibs. Still a very cool guitar.
Your videos rock, dude. Please don't stop doing these..
Fabulous program. Seen a few times now....
Nice detective work!
Nice guitar. When you were demonstrating the sound, it looks more like a copper color than a gold.
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I used to have a Les Paul gold top, fucking LOVED that guitar. Sold it before I went travelling for some quick cash. I’d give anything to have that guitar back….Exact model that slash plays live sometimes for Dont cry. Beautiful guitar.
I’m not sure this is a ‘69 Trog. The dot above the i on the headstock logo would place it post ‘72
27:32 "It blends well with the middle pickup too." What? You meant the middle position?
Our guitar player had a '69 GoldTop ,had P90's in it. Ended up in a pawnshop!!
I thought 69 lp Gibson logo didn't have the dot above the i?
Ilooks like the neck binding dont complete the fret end . I think it's a chibson
Really enjoyed this one! 🎸
wow those seymour duncan pickups are amazing !
some hot pups! I like the rich harmonic distortion tone. No mud. Austin has one helluva distinct vibrato!
I have a red 70's deluxe... epiphone reissue 😁
Nice but unfortunately John Norum left to play with dokken in 1986.
The great unknown guitarist to fill in was Kee Marcello who played the live tours and recorded 2 albums (out of this world and prisoners in paradise) till Europe took a break in 1992.
I wouldn’t have a problem with owning that guitar.
I really like the Grover tuning pegs.
Gotta 57 Les Paul standard!. Dads guitar. Have had it since 65. My opinion! The Best guitar. Gotta 335 Red. Love it.
That's a tried and true repair there to put that dowel pin there. Who ever worked on that guitar knew what they were doing. Of course it drops the value but it's in no way of a don't buy.
I have a 1969 dark back gold top with original humbuckers, no pancake body small headstock. All original, I've never seen another like mine.
Late to this one but that bridge is a replacement new stock Kluson. I have 2 with the same markings.
I have a 1990 Reissue Gold Top LP
Org. P90s and 50s neck
Before that I bought a 1990 reissue Solid Gold LP whole guitar was Gold not many of those were made
Both serial numbers are in Ink
Though I don't have the 60 anymore
You can get rid of the smoky smell by putting an Ozium can in the case. It releases ozone and will neatralize the odor.