I had the old G73 and loved it. I have been waiting on the G75 and i will be getting mine mind July. Since i travel all the time for work i dont have time for my desktop any more.
You're right about the thunderbolt combining the PCI Express and Displayport. But, it seems like these laptops have a mini displayport because if you go to 2:45 You'll notice that it shows a mini displayport logo rather than a thunderbolt logo.
4:56 - Actually, a bigger screen gives you the option for a wider FoV, assuming the game allows you to set the FoV manually. Even if it's the same resolution as the smaller screen. FoV is determined by the distance from the viewer to the monitor, and the size of the monitor, not the resolution.
I'd say 15", as that tends to be my personal threshold to how large of a notebook I'm willing to carry around without noticing it in my bag (speaking as a student, that's a little important considering I'm likely carrying textbooks around in the same bag as well). Plus, if you want a larger screen, you can put the price difference between the 15" and 17" (didn't know Canadians used inches, funny) and buy a 20"+ monitor for room/home gaming.
Not quite.Thunderbolt combines the Display Port and PCI Express Interface, thats why you can plug in display port cables into thunderbolt. A Display Port lacks the PCIe interface. So they are not the same.
I was looking for a gaming notebook about a year ago. I checked out the ASUS G53 and G73 as well as other notebooks. I was completely turned off by the ridiculous prices and slowly shifted to desktops... now I have a desktop with an i3 2100 and Radeon 6850 all for about $600, very much similar to Linus's good enough gaming PC :) Its indisputable, for gaming, desktops are the best bang for your buck.
Yea, G75. I use it for a desktop replacement because I want a desktop but I also want to bring it around to places. The weight doesn't bother me and the 17 inch is a better choice in my opinion. When reading or surfing the web its better and when playing games (In my opinion) is better because everything is blown up bigger so its easier for me to see.
Yeah 'cream of the crop' is an idiom too, I think 'cream of the cream' is a simple translation from the french idiom 'crème de la crème' (same thing, different language xD) which simply means 'the best there is' :) It is often used synonymously with 'cream of the crop'
I have a 17.3" notebook and for me it is perfect. I do not carry it around airports and other venues other than uni where i place it down on a table and plug it in. If your after portibility with gaming go the 15" but if your after a PC that you can take with you where ever you go with all your data then go the 17". The weight comes from the copper used to cool the GPU and CPU BTW.
My friend has a G55 while I am watching this on my new G75 (Birthday gift from my parents today) and I gotta say, it is all down to personal preferences. SO enough of the "ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER" FIghts. My friend moves around a lot so the 15 inch works out for him. For me, I dont move around a lot but I need to take my laptop with me whenever I have the rare but boring family reunion.
You can only really see more if you are playing at higher resolutions, but even then the only thing you can see 'more of' is detail because the camera has the same exact positioning and zoom. The only thing that could increase the FOV is if you increase the width of the screen, but even then the actual FOV doesn't change, just the aspect ratio.
With a bigger screen and everything blown up you can set your fov in games higher so things in distance won't be minuscule or well that is my opinion on that. Personally I would pick 15" because I like to keep portable items portable.
I always get as big as possible (though I only bought a laptop once, an 18.4") strictly for performance. I'm a huge guy so anything is portable, and I'm not going to ever compromise on performance. Hearing the comparison of specs between these two notebooks I wouldn't want to be caught dead with the little one, it's just too limp. The dust filter on the big one is ok too, but I do believe Asus does not void your warranty if you open the case and clean it so it doesn't matter.
2560x1440 is a 16:9 aspect ratio. 2560x1600 is a 16:10 aspect ratio. Because there are only 2 manufacturers of these type of high-res panels (LG and Samsung) atm, all high-res 27 inch monitors are 2560x1440 and all high-res 30 inch monitors are 2560x1600.
of a premium , and they can take weeks to be assembled, then there long shipping times unless you pay them 30-50 dollars to complete quicker. which some people find silly.
Yes I know that Thunderbolt is compatible with a variety of things including display port, but on the website and the specs on the Asus website as well on NCIX says it's mini-Display port. :P
G75, I find 15" too small. Used to big displays for so long now. Got a 24" widescreen LCD when they first came out many years ago and was one of the best upgrades ever.
It's a laptop, it's not a home theater screen. They're meant to be portable where there are often lights all over the place causing glare. I love my 40" Samsung 3DTV, but going the same glass route on my laptop has often made it really hard to work.
5:38, agree. I mean laptops are awesome if you have a sweet desktop. Most of us aren't super rich and can afford the cream of the crop for both. I just went with a cream of the crop desktop build and use my droid for anything that I would use a laptop for. Works out pretty great actually and I have numerous programs that connect my desktop to my droid wherever I am in many different ways. So I really don't feel a need for a laptop unless I really need sub par gaming 24/7 wherever.(not the case)
It's a tough call. The 17' has slightly better hardware, which is going to go further. But then again, the 15' isn't very far behind. And chances are when you finally notice it's time to upgrade, there likely wont be a big difference. But you also have to look at it from a gameplay standpoint. Some games don't like 15' screens, and it becomes very cluttered and hard to see everything that's going on. What it really comes down to is, how much you intend to travel.
i kinda got used to having a 17 inch before it broke down,but after that i got smart enough to realize the best solution is a desktop pc. Yeah gaming notebooks are great for lan parties and all that,but in a small town where i come from it's not that common a thing so i don't mind.
Linus is such a stand up guy, instead of asking for likes and favourites because it would really help him out, he's asking for dislikes if you think 17 inch notebooks are the best for portable video game performance. (Y)
Considering how there is some material behind the screen making the laptop an inch wider, along with 17 inches being big already, I'd go with a G55. It would be a better and cheaper option to go with a desktop than the g75.
Hard to believe that a 670m gets near the 680m. Just the Vantage scores are way far, 670m OC gets between 14000 and 15000 while 680m gets a blasting 21000/22000 in stock clocks. I myself was able to reach 13980 on my 660m OC. My question is weather the 192bit Memory interface from the 670m gives a significant difference than the 128bit in the 660m. Thumbs up for Linus to see and answer please.
it would likely meet the 680m or maybe surpass it at stock , the cooling for the high end mobile chips are usually almost the same. and the gpu cores are about the same as well . so id say the 670 in a good situation could be as good as a 680m .
thats what i mean the image is the same but larger so it gives more peripheral vision without having to change resolution like a bigger picture, you see smaller details
Linus is right. If you want a big screen to use at home, just get an external 24" monitor and go for the 15" laptop since the whole point of gaming laptops is portability.
yeah its for those had an alienware m11x and well for the size yeah sure it was for but it was a wallet breaker for what it had in it i think that rule applies for anything the smaller you get the more expensive.
Linus forgot to mention there are different SKUs of this laptops with different specs (e.g. not every of those laptops comes with 3D screen, blu-ray drive and etc)
I want to see a 15" ASUS G-series with a GTX 680m in it... that would be amazing, but alas I don't think ASUS will put the GTX 680m in any of their laptops let alone a 15" model. I prefer the 15" and am actually currently using a previous Gen. 15" G-series and I really like it. I'm using this due to college dorm rooms where a full PC isn't exactly practical, But once I'm out I'm going to build my own Gaming comp.
imo desktops are still the better option for gaming because you can easily exchange parts and a 17inch notebook is not designed for carrying it around. It's just made to show off at the next LAN-party. Or would you take your g75vw, go to the next restaurant and play a little modern warfare?
After looking on newegg the g75 and g55 have a difference of 50 bucks. Also the G75 has extra ram along with a larger monitor. I think the extra 50 bucks is worth it.
let me be honest . the issue with that is those tests, will test your entire system . not just the graphics. so likely a faster cpu was also apperent. as the 680m only appears in the absolute top of the top laptops. so in terms of graphics , likely a 670m could match it , but you have to ensure that the laptops have the same cpu. for it to be comparable . and yes the extra bits will provide a higher memory bandwith . and with a chip with alot of ram , you will see an marginal improvement.
I'd go with a 15 inch G55, since I can just plug it to an Full HD 42 inch TV or a 24 inch desktop monitor if I really need a bigger screen with the same resolution.
Field of View has an upper limit. Display resolution, however, does not. So by your logic, there would be a point where your FoV gets so high, because your resolution is so high, that it starts looping, and you start seeing entire 360 degree views side-by-side. FoV has nothing whatsoever to do with the resolution of your display. Ever zoom in or out on a cam-corder? That's FoV.
well i dont mind waight aslong as it fits in a backpack i like wich this does and the deal breaker for the 15 inch for me was the singel hdd space and i realy love big screens and have a 27 inch monitor for my desctop so trancitioning down lower than 17 would be difficult for me but sure i can see how some ppl want to be able to walk around with their notebook or have it in your lap but honestly if that is your standards for what you want your probably not looking for a gaming laptop
17" , yes i know the pixel density is smaller , but because the screen is bigger the objects are also bigger , in my view , i can be wrong, but its like putting a magnifying lent in front of the 15, so u have the same pixels, and resolution but in fact u see things bigger,
i dont understand why everyone hates macbook's so much for gaming. the 650m IS sufficient and compared to the razerblade its also really well priced. YES things like imacs are stupid for gaming, but macbookpros arent that bad.
i think both are equally good for gaming, but i have big hands, so the 17 inch keyboard is better suited for me, and it also has some other features that i find awesome
If I only had one of these and no desktop the 17" would be the choice, but if I traveled much and wanted a laptop capable of gaming the 15" would be the one to go and a 24"> screen at home.
I like all the great reviews you have made on computers although i think one thing that lacks most reviews are the problems that can accure ... anyway very informative and thank you.. There is one thing i dont understand though.. I prefer 17inch monitors on laptops.. not for graphics but size.. why dont manufacturers make them or sellers sell 17" more often.. it makes more sense then the 15' laptops that are going around
What happened to the MSI VS Asus gaming laptop comparison? It was supposed to compare a super processor and super VGA against a pretty good processor and super VGA.
Personally, I'd got 17" just for more power/performance. Mobility is not a *big* issue for me. Essentially, by making this choice I'm saying I'd go for desktop replacement rather than high mobility take-this-anywhere.
my co-worker got the 17" one and dude.. i couldn't believe how heavy it is. He paid like $2200 for it and I couldn't what cost that money. It is very thick and very heavy... definitely not a portable computer
(and i ran out of characters) and yes, the y500 screen seems blurry compared to G75 side by side. if it isnt the 4.5KG mass on the G75, i would bring it back home that day.
The Vantage scores are from GPU score, just for graphics, no CPU score mix up. I make this question about memory bandwidth since GTA 4 has some problems when running with custom cars and ENB mod which kills memory in my 660m an would think that now that coming GTA 5 this would get even worse. So I considered swapping my 660m for a 670m.
Wow.. that sounds like a bad ass mobile gaming setup.. I might look into one of these while I'm stuck in Japan later this year. (Where I can't use the "real" solution for gaming.)
Not to mention it's only 50 bucks more for slightly less ram (8 vs. 12 but if all your doing is gaming 8 is more then enough), better gpu, an ssd boot and a blu-ray disc drive. 50 bucks well spent IMO. Unless the big size really turns you off the 75 is just the smarter buy.
i'm never getting a desktop, i live in a small box and it saves a lot of space. i have g73sw and its great, you can take it with you when going out with friends for a cup of coffee.
What he meant was that computers shouldn't have to be super thin small computers to be considered portable. Apple's known to make things unnecessarily small.
well if you have a 17 inch laptop that means it'll have a bigger area to have a better video card in the system and that could mean that you can play games on ulltra with the same fps to a one that has a 15 inch monitor that does not have a decent video card like the 17 inch model in medium.
Let me clarify... ASUS is an amazing brand but what are you getting for almost 700? I can run starcraft 2 on ultra settings on my Aspire 6370 and still have it run at a steady 30 GPS...
Many nooby comments. Battery PCs have inbuilt UPS. Desktop replacements connect easily to external drives & displays, both wirelessly & cable. Every desktop replacer can be a Hackintosh. My HP Pavilion DV7 (USA design) allows many combinations (sizes & types) of Bluray/ HDD/ SSD. Mine runs 6 operating systems ATM. The 17" screen size is heavy. All pro users of computers only have optometric-correct spectacles: stops short-sightedness, relaxes eye muscles, slows moisture loss from eyes.
i have never had a notebook before but still i think about getting a 17.3 inch cuz with high resolutions i always have the problem of everything being so rediciously small :\ .... or are there other sollutions to that other then making the screen bigger?
15" is a big laptop but still portable, I have a G50 with a 9700m gt. Great laptop and im glad I didnt get a 17. I have my desktop with a 42" monitor and a 570 gtx for the real gaming
I kinda ... want the G75. Ya, I want a desktop kinda experiance with my laptop. Oh MY goodness... X} Granted 17" is a bit more .. bulky, but honestly, I'm not going to be using it where the space is so limited that I couldn't have upto a 20' monitor sit there. I don't like cramp spaces, and with the bigger screen, It's so much easier to notice details when they are a bit bigger.
You do know the Gtx 670m is a older Gtx 570m thats clocked higher right? So the Gtx 660m is 1 year ahead of the Gtx 670 in terms of power/heat efficiency. I don't understand the hostility you're showing towards me.
I would go with the 15. With the 17 it is just a more expensive desktop that is a little bit portable. You might as well get a desktop that is less expensive but it would still have the same specks. It is not like you would fully be piling out this massave notebook out just for a little word stuff. The 15 is more practical and if you have the money to but the 17 you might as well get the 15 and get a cheaper desktop
i would stick with the 15 inch for a large number of reasons mostly do to the fact that there are more accesories for a 15 inch model rather then the 17 inch lol sure a 17 inch would be cool at a LAN party and gain a few show off points but at the end of the day you should not buy a laptop for the size of the screen but for the performance and yes i know the g75 has a better gpu but the g55 has a smaller screen which means it will not need the same gpu as the g75 and also the g55 uses less power
I would expect the same of the 660m to be what you said about the 670m, nvidia doesn't work hard on their mobile products, they focus too much on their desktop GPU's
i wanted to know too, frm wut i heard, y500's gt650m sli is stronger than GTX670m. Im buying a gaming laptop these days too and did some research on these affortable models, in-terms of specs, y500>G75, however, build quality on the y500 is so bad, many hardware problems brought up by users (touchpad, keyboard, screen, wireless card, temperature, sli not working). i saw both models at the store and i must say, G75 is better overall, with abit more $, u get dualfan, dual hdd slots, clearer screen
That is a great way to mask the dislikes your videos get right after you upload. I noticed you have a lot of haters right off the bat when you upload a new video. It's like they subbed, just to give you a thumbs down.
I had the old G73 and loved it. I have been waiting on the G75 and i will be getting mine mind July. Since i travel all the time for work i dont have time for my desktop any more.
You're right about the thunderbolt combining the PCI Express and Displayport. But, it seems like these laptops have a mini displayport because if you go to 2:45 You'll notice that it shows a mini displayport logo rather than a thunderbolt logo.
4:56 - Actually, a bigger screen gives you the option for a wider FoV, assuming the game allows you to set the FoV manually. Even if it's the same resolution as the smaller screen. FoV is determined by the distance from the viewer to the monitor, and the size of the monitor, not the resolution.
I'd say 15", as that tends to be my personal threshold to how large of a notebook I'm willing to carry around without noticing it in my bag (speaking as a student, that's a little important considering I'm likely carrying textbooks around in the same bag as well). Plus, if you want a larger screen, you can put the price difference between the 15" and 17" (didn't know Canadians used inches, funny) and buy a 20"+ monitor for room/home gaming.
Not quite.Thunderbolt combines the Display Port and PCI Express Interface, thats why you can plug in display port cables into thunderbolt. A Display Port lacks the PCIe interface. So they are not the same.
I was wondering about the dislikes, but I realized at the end that you made that amazing feature by Google into your poll!
I can't dislike your video Linus. I have an Asus G73 17.3" and I love it, but I'm hoping to upgrade to a G75 soon.
Watching in 2020 thinking about buying the g75, using this video to help me decide.
I was looking for a gaming notebook about a year ago. I checked out the ASUS G53 and G73 as well as other notebooks. I was completely turned off by the ridiculous prices and slowly shifted to desktops... now I have a desktop with an i3 2100 and Radeon 6850 all for about $600, very much similar to Linus's good enough gaming PC :) Its indisputable, for gaming, desktops are the best bang for your buck.
It was 6am at this point and I'd been working since 9:30am the previous day
Yea, G75. I use it for a desktop replacement because I want a desktop but I also want to bring it around to places. The weight doesn't bother me and the 17 inch is a better choice in my opinion. When reading or surfing the web its better and when playing games (In my opinion) is better because everything is blown up bigger so its easier for me to see.
Yeah 'cream of the crop' is an idiom too, I think 'cream of the cream' is a simple translation from the french idiom 'crème de la crème' (same thing, different language xD) which simply means 'the best there is' :) It is often used synonymously with 'cream of the crop'
I have a 17.3" notebook and for me it is perfect. I do not carry it around airports and other venues other than uni where i place it down on a table and plug it in. If your after portibility with gaming go the 15" but if your after a PC that you can take with you where ever you go with all your data then go the 17". The weight comes from the copper used to cool the GPU and CPU BTW.
My friend has a G55 while I am watching this on my new G75 (Birthday gift from my parents today) and I gotta say, it is all down to personal preferences. SO enough of the "ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER" FIghts. My friend moves around a lot so the 15 inch works out for him. For me, I dont move around a lot but I need to take my laptop with me whenever I have the rare but boring family reunion.
You can only really see more if you are playing at higher resolutions, but even then the only thing you can see 'more of' is detail because the camera has the same exact positioning and zoom. The only thing that could increase the FOV is if you increase the width of the screen, but even then the actual FOV doesn't change, just the aspect ratio.
With a bigger screen and everything blown up you can set your fov in games higher so things in distance won't be minuscule or well that is my opinion on that. Personally I would pick 15" because I like to keep portable items portable.
I always get as big as possible (though I only bought a laptop once, an 18.4") strictly for performance. I'm a huge guy so anything is portable, and I'm not going to ever compromise on performance. Hearing the comparison of specs between these two notebooks I wouldn't want to be caught dead with the little one, it's just too limp. The dust filter on the big one is ok too, but I do believe Asus does not void your warranty if you open the case and clean it so it doesn't matter.
2560x1440 is a 16:9 aspect ratio.
2560x1600 is a 16:10 aspect ratio.
Because there are only 2 manufacturers of these type of high-res panels (LG and Samsung) atm, all high-res 27 inch monitors are 2560x1440 and all high-res 30 inch monitors are 2560x1600.
Just ordered the ASUS G75 yesterday...and am now watching this. Nice coincidence I think.
of a premium , and they can take weeks to be assembled, then there long shipping times unless you pay them 30-50 dollars to complete quicker. which some people find silly.
You're probably the only CZcamsr who actually does not care about getting dislikes and is actually using it as a poll, Linux you sexy BEAST!
Yes I know that Thunderbolt is compatible with a variety of things including display port, but on the website and the specs on the Asus website as well on NCIX says it's mini-Display port. :P
Just got the g55 loving every bit of it :D
G75, I find 15" too small. Used to big displays for so long now. Got a 24" widescreen LCD when they first came out many years ago and was one of the best upgrades ever.
It's a laptop, it's not a home theater screen. They're meant to be portable where there are often lights all over the place causing glare. I love my 40" Samsung 3DTV, but going the same glass route on my laptop has often made it really hard to work.
5:38, agree.
I mean laptops are awesome if you have a sweet desktop. Most of us aren't super rich and can afford the cream of the crop for both. I just went with a cream of the crop desktop build and use my droid for anything that I would use a laptop for. Works out pretty great actually and I have numerous programs that connect my desktop to my droid wherever I am in many different ways. So I really don't feel a need for a laptop unless I really need sub par gaming 24/7 wherever.(not the case)
It's a tough call. The 17' has slightly better hardware, which is going to go further. But then again, the 15' isn't very far behind. And chances are when you finally notice it's time to upgrade, there likely wont be a big difference.
But you also have to look at it from a gameplay standpoint. Some games don't like 15' screens, and it becomes very cluttered and hard to see everything that's going on. What it really comes down to is, how much you intend to travel.
Thanks for letting me know about the 2 yr warranty.
i kinda got used to having a 17 inch before it broke down,but after that i got smart enough to realize the best solution is a desktop pc. Yeah gaming notebooks are great for lan parties and all that,but in a small town where i come from it's not that common a thing so i don't mind.
I like a 17" notebook because i wear glasses!
The story about pixels is true in this case, great video, thanks Linus!
Linus is such a stand up guy, instead of asking for likes and favourites because it would really help him out, he's asking for dislikes if you think 17 inch notebooks are the best for portable video game performance. (Y)
Considering how there is some material behind the screen making the laptop an inch wider, along with 17 inches being big already, I'd go with a G55. It would be a better and cheaper option to go with a desktop than the g75.
Yes, but at the same distance, i.e. having the laptop infront of you, the larger screen will be suited to a higher FOV.
Hard to believe that a 670m gets near the 680m. Just the Vantage scores are way far, 670m OC gets between 14000 and 15000 while 680m gets a blasting 21000/22000 in stock clocks. I myself was able to reach 13980 on my 660m OC.
My question is weather the 192bit Memory interface from the 670m gives a significant difference than the 128bit in the 660m.
Thumbs up for Linus to see and answer please.
it would likely meet the 680m or maybe surpass it at stock , the cooling for the high end mobile chips are usually almost the same. and the gpu cores are about the same as well . so id say the 670 in a good situation could be as good as a 680m .
thats what i mean
the image is the same
but larger
so it gives more peripheral vision without having to change resolution
like a bigger picture, you see smaller details
Is the Sager NP9170 with the upgraded 680m and i7-3720QM better? You can also upgrade the processor much higher of course.
i have the G73 and its still awesome. love it
My choice depends on the battery life for desktop applications (i.e. not gaming), but I'd prefer to go for the G75
on 17 inch, the screen is larger
so it gives more peripheral vision
and you can see way more even though its the same resolution
Linus is right. If you want a big screen to use at home, just get an external 24" monitor and go for the 15" laptop since the whole point of gaming laptops is portability.
In my opinion, get the 15.6 inch, unless you want a desktop replacement, then get a desktop and 24" monitor
i just bought the G55..kick-ass laptop! highly recommended..
Except the trackpad apparently but I can't tell a buttons difference between the apple one and the one on my laptop.
yeah its for those had an alienware m11x and well for the size yeah sure it was for but it was a wallet breaker for what it had in it i think that rule applies for anything the smaller you get the more expensive.
Hi, you should check out the n76vz instead. I believe it's better for photo editing and such and it's a bit cheaper too.
Linus forgot to mention there are different SKUs of this laptops with different specs (e.g. not every of those laptops comes with 3D screen, blu-ray drive and etc)
I want to see a 15" ASUS G-series with a GTX 680m in it... that would be amazing, but alas I don't think ASUS will put the GTX 680m in any of their laptops let alone a 15" model. I prefer the 15" and am actually currently using a previous Gen. 15" G-series and I really like it. I'm using this due to college dorm rooms where a full PC isn't exactly practical, But once I'm out I'm going to build my own Gaming comp.
imo desktops are still the better option for gaming because you can easily exchange parts and a 17inch notebook is not designed for carrying it around. It's just made to show off at the next LAN-party. Or would you take your g75vw, go to the next restaurant and play a little modern warfare?
After looking on newegg the g75 and g55 have a difference of 50 bucks. Also the G75 has extra ram along with a larger monitor. I think the extra 50 bucks is worth it.
let me be honest . the issue with that is those tests, will test your entire system . not just the graphics. so likely a faster cpu was also apperent. as the 680m only appears in the absolute top of the top laptops. so in terms of graphics , likely a 670m could match it , but you have to ensure that the laptops have the same cpu. for it to be comparable . and yes the extra bits will provide a higher memory bandwith . and with a chip with alot of ram , you will see an marginal improvement.
I'd go with a 15 inch G55, since I can just plug it to an Full HD 42 inch TV or a 24 inch desktop monitor if I really need a bigger screen with the same resolution.
Field of View has an upper limit. Display resolution, however, does not. So by your logic, there would be a point where your FoV gets so high, because your resolution is so high, that it starts looping, and you start seeing entire 360 degree views side-by-side.
FoV has nothing whatsoever to do with the resolution of your display.
Ever zoom in or out on a cam-corder? That's FoV.
well i dont mind waight aslong as it fits in a backpack i like wich this does and the deal breaker for the 15 inch for me was the singel hdd space and i realy love big screens and have a 27 inch monitor for my desctop so trancitioning down lower than 17 would be difficult for me but sure i can see how some ppl want to be able to walk around with their notebook or have it in your lap but honestly if that is your standards for what you want your probably not looking for a gaming laptop
The bigger screen fills more of your vision, thus is good for a higher FOV.
I still love my Asus G53 it does me well, and I think it will last me until next year. I am a hybrid gamer so i will play other games on my Xbox 360.
17" , yes i know the pixel density is smaller , but because the screen is bigger the objects are also bigger , in my view , i can be wrong, but its like putting a magnifying lent in front of the 15, so u have the same pixels, and resolution but in fact u see things bigger,
i dont understand why everyone hates macbook's so much for gaming. the 650m IS sufficient and compared to the razerblade its also really well priced. YES things like imacs are stupid for gaming, but macbookpros arent that bad.
i think both are equally good for gaming, but i have big hands, so the 17 inch keyboard is better suited for me, and it also has some other features that i find awesome
If I only had one of these and no desktop the 17" would be the choice, but if I traveled much and wanted a laptop capable of gaming the 15" would be the one to go and a 24"> screen at home.
I like all the great reviews you have made on computers although i think one thing that lacks most reviews are the problems that can accure ... anyway very informative and thank you..
There is one thing i dont understand though.. I prefer 17inch monitors on laptops.. not for graphics but size.. why dont manufacturers make them or sellers sell 17" more often.. it makes more sense then the 15' laptops that are going around
What happened to the MSI VS Asus gaming laptop comparison? It was supposed to compare a super processor and super VGA against a pretty good processor and super VGA.
Personally, I'd got 17" just for more power/performance. Mobility is not a *big* issue for me. Essentially, by making this choice I'm saying I'd go for desktop replacement rather than high mobility take-this-anywhere.
Yes home premium does have limit although i am not too sure what it was, i think it was 16GB limit, correct me if i am wrong.
my co-worker got the 17" one and dude.. i couldn't believe how heavy it is. He paid like $2200 for it and I couldn't what cost that money. It is very thick and very heavy... definitely not a portable computer
(and i ran out of characters) and yes, the y500 screen seems blurry compared to G75 side by side. if it isnt the 4.5KG mass on the G75, i would bring it back home that day.
The Vantage scores are from GPU score, just for graphics, no CPU score mix up. I make this question about memory bandwidth since GTA 4 has some problems when running with custom cars and ENB mod which kills memory in my 660m an would think that now that coming GTA 5 this would get even worse. So I considered swapping my 660m for a 670m.
Wow.. that sounds like a bad ass mobile gaming setup.. I might look into one of these while I'm stuck in Japan later this year. (Where I can't use the "real" solution for gaming.)
Getting the g75 soon, so exited :3
@0oDarkLordRevano0 thunderbolt and displayport have the same connector as it also carries a display port signal
Not to mention it's only 50 bucks more for slightly less ram (8 vs. 12 but if all your doing is gaming 8 is more then enough), better gpu, an ssd boot and a blu-ray disc drive. 50 bucks well spent IMO. Unless the big size really turns you off the 75 is just the smarter buy.
Me, actually. As well as my desktop PC, running a 3770K, I also game on my MacBook Pro. It works perfectly well for light gaming, I have you know.
I think 17" is better because one can sit back to get the same viewing angle and that will reduce eye fatigue.
Wait, you said they have Thunderbolt Ports. According to the Asus site, those are supposed to be mini display ports. So what is it!?
Cream of the crop is the best of the crop, so cream of the cream is the best of the best. Its quite commonly used unless I'm mistaken.
Linus, the Zenbook Prime was just released (the UX31A at least), will you be reviewing this soon?
Ive got theG75 and it is amazing!
I was able to overclock the 660m until the point of overpassing the stock 670m. Wonder if the OC 670m would go much more beyond the OC 660m.
i think people should go with the g75 from best buy 1,250 and is 17. the price difference in both is very small
i'm never getting a desktop, i live in a small box and it saves a lot of space. i have g73sw and its great, you can take it with you when going out with friends for a cup of coffee.
What he meant was that computers shouldn't have to be super thin small computers to be considered portable. Apple's known to make things unnecessarily small.
well if you have a 17 inch laptop that means it'll have a bigger area to have a better video card in the system and that could mean that you can play games on ulltra with the same fps to a one that has a 15 inch monitor that does not have a decent video card like the 17 inch model in medium.
Heres what i think: students should have a basiclaptop for homework and browsing, and a desktop custum build for gaming
Let me clarify... ASUS is an amazing brand but what are you getting for almost 700? I can run starcraft 2 on ultra settings on my Aspire 6370 and still have it run at a steady 30 GPS...
Killing Floor, Left 4 Dead 2, Portal, Portal 2, Batman Arkham Asylum (settings turned down, as I don't like seeing my games as a power point) etc.
Many nooby comments. Battery PCs have inbuilt UPS. Desktop replacements connect easily to external drives & displays, both wirelessly & cable. Every desktop replacer can be a Hackintosh. My HP Pavilion DV7 (USA design) allows many combinations (sizes & types) of Bluray/ HDD/ SSD. Mine runs 6 operating systems ATM. The 17" screen size is heavy. All pro users of computers only have optometric-correct spectacles: stops short-sightedness, relaxes eye muscles, slows moisture loss from eyes.
i have never had a notebook before but still i think about getting a 17.3 inch cuz with high resolutions i always have the problem of everything being so rediciously small :\
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or are there other sollutions to that other then making the screen bigger?
15" is a big laptop but still portable, I have a G50 with a 9700m gt. Great laptop and im glad I didnt get a 17. I have my desktop with a 42" monitor and a 570 gtx for the real gaming
I kinda ... want the G75. Ya, I want a desktop kinda experiance with my laptop. Oh MY goodness... X} Granted 17" is a bit more .. bulky, but honestly, I'm not going to be using it where the space is so limited that I couldn't have upto a 20' monitor sit there. I don't like cramp spaces, and with the bigger screen, It's so much easier to notice details when they are a bit bigger.
You do know the Gtx 670m is a older Gtx 570m thats clocked higher right? So the Gtx 660m is 1 year ahead of the Gtx 670 in terms of power/heat efficiency. I don't understand the hostility you're showing towards me.
I would go with the 15. With the 17 it is just a more expensive desktop that is a little bit portable. You might as well get a desktop that is less expensive but it would still have the same specks. It is not like you would fully be piling out this massave notebook out just for a little word stuff. The 15 is more practical and if you have the money to but the 17 you might as well get the 15 and get a cheaper desktop
i would stick with the 15 inch for a large number of reasons mostly do to the fact that there are more accesories for a 15 inch model rather then the 17 inch lol sure a 17 inch would be cool at a LAN party and gain a few show off points but at the end of the day you should not buy a laptop for the size of the screen but for the performance and yes i know the g75 has a better gpu but the g55 has a smaller screen which means it will not need the same gpu as the g75 and also the g55 uses less power
I would expect the same of the 660m to be what you said about the 670m, nvidia doesn't work hard on their mobile products, they focus too much on their desktop GPU's
Where do I go to watch the live show?
i wanted to know too, frm wut i heard, y500's gt650m sli is stronger than GTX670m. Im buying a gaming laptop these days too and did some research on these affortable models, in-terms of specs, y500>G75, however, build quality on the y500 is so bad, many hardware problems brought up by users (touchpad, keyboard, screen, wireless card, temperature, sli not working). i saw both models at the store and i must say, G75 is better overall, with abit more $, u get dualfan, dual hdd slots, clearer screen
I'm pretty sure that's just display port, not thunderbolt. Please correct me if I'm wrong...
A lightboost monitor is $500, take that into account if you're comparing this to desktop. And isn't the gtx 670m(and 675m) FERMI and a 660m KEPLER?
That is a great way to mask the dislikes your videos get right after you upload. I noticed you have a lot of haters right off the bat when you upload a new video. It's like they subbed, just to give you a thumbs down.
LINUS!! why dont you put your script just above or bellow the camera man???
Its all up to what your prepared to haul about, personally an extra half kilo doesn't bother me.