WHY YOU CANT GET A RAZOR EDGE
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- I get the same questions all the time about freehand sharpening. In this video, I address the common issues with your edges, and HOW TO FIX THEM!
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As a retired meat cutter I am very critical of these sharpening videos. Kyle is giving very good information, listen very carefully to what he is teaching. 95% of these Utube sharpening videos are complete trash. It does take time to learn this skill, but, you will use it for the duration and hopefully pass it down.
Thx for commenting. Seriously accurate. I saved this video, and watched more as your comment suggested.
I mean, I'm inclined to disagree with a lot of sharpening tutorials, not because I believe I know better, but rather because I attempt them and struggle to get a razor edge, despite the fact I'm reasonably dexterous and good at following directions.
So I'd have to say, I feel like your criticism would be more helpful if you explained what exactly you take issue with in this tutorial and explained how it could be taught better. Go over what you think the most important aspects of sharpening are, even just in outline form.
@@DaimyoD0 Another excellent knife sharpening video is on the channel "the bearded butchers " by watching these type of professionals you learn how to get sharp edge but more important a DURABLE edge. The quality of your tools is important too. Don't spend 100's of dollars on kitchen knives, here are 2 brands who make excellent kitchen knives at very reasonable prices, Mercer and Victorinox
30 years ago I worked for Edge Craft and helped in the development of the Chefs Choice 2000 Pro sharpener. I built the first prototypes and later the pre-production units that were taken to the trade shows. You cover the sharpening part very well referencing information about the "wire" or "burr" edge that very few people know and even fewer understand. Let me say that if the sharpening process does not create that ever so slight wire edge, ultimate sharpness, that truly "shaving sharp" edge, cannot be accomplished. The full razor edge is accomplished not by getting rid of that wire edge, but refining it.
A wire edge, that grabby little burr that you feel as you wipe your fingertip from the back edge of the blade towards the sharpened edge and off the sharp edge, as you said, which is weak, and fragile. The tip of that burr is actually not aligned for proper, if any, cutting. Under the microscope the burr may be rolled over resembling a fish-hook shape with the sharpest part of it at right angles to where the normal sharp edge of a knife is found. Watchers should be aware that the burr is actually EXTREMELY sharp and if you ran a finger along that burr the length of the knife, you might get aligned with at supersharp part of the burr and cut the dickens out of your finger. The sharpness can be greater that the best surgeon's scalpel and you might know your finger is cut until you see blood.
After you finish with the 400 grit surface, you will usually have at the microscopic level, some degree of burr. Moving to the finer grit side of the stone, first contact to the edge should be should be on the side opposite the the last stroke on the 400 grit stone. And should be a draw stroke rather than a cutting stroke. This will be the first refinement move of the burr. It will un-roll the burr back to the center alignment with the blade's edge. Make several draw stokes and feel if the burr is still detectable . If it is, continue stroking that side a couple more strokes then switch to the other side of the blade. Work back and forth from one side and back checking for sharpness occasionally.
This process has smoothed the edge of the courser scratches and reduced the height of that very sharp burr and aligned it making it the sharp edge of the blade. If you looked at the edge now under a microscope in cross-section you'd see the sides of the blade angling to converge to at the apex of the edge with a small pyramid on the top. The top point of the microscopic pyramid shape will be your very sharp edge.The squat shape of that pyramid is angled to support the sharp edge (top of the pyramid) and makes a stronger edge that will neither bend over or break off under use.
The stropping process refines that edge even more polishing the metal to a mirror finish. This, when correctly and conservatively done will give you the true "shaving edge!" In fact, I coined that phrase for the ads in the early days. The head of the company walked into my lab as I had just finished to examining the sharpness and durability of the edges we were developing, I blurted out, "these aren't razor shark, they'er shaving sharp!" And for a while that appeared in our ads.
Last points, if you really want to protect that edge you worked so hard to create, don't scrape the edge sideways across the cutting board, to move the cut veggies or meat into the pan regardless of what the cutting board is made of . That sideways scrape can easily and quickly rolls the sharp edge. That slight damage may be quickly repaired with just the strop.
Knife steel is constantly being researched for strength, durability, and resistance to corrosion. If knife steel is on the softer side it resharpens quickly to a very sharp edge, but may get dull after only 4 or 5 filet processing, A harder steel may hold an edge longer. Much longer in some cases, but it will take more effort to resharpen. Knife steel that is too hard can be EXTREMELY difficult to impossible. Primary reason is that the refinement needed to that burr to sharpen to a truly shaving edge, tends to break the burr off due to inherent alloy brittleness and the work-hardening of bending that microscopic edge back and forth. Again microscopic examination of that very hard knife's edge may show rather than a smooth polished continuous wall-like edge of steel, it will resemble the blocked toothed top of the wall of King Authur's castle. . .suitable only for cutting bread.
Avoid putting your sharp knives in the dishwasher. That supper-fine edge, even on a stainless alloy steel blade is corroded/etched by the hot water and the chemicals in the detergent.
Avoid ever checking sharpness by running a finger down a blade even with the lightest touch. If you have done your job well, that ultra sharp, now refined, burr is the very edge that can cut you so easily that you don't feel it, or know you are cut, until you see the blood. Many of you may check sharpness by trying to shave arm hair with the blade, which when done carefully is OK, unless yo are sharpening all the knives in the kitchen in one sitting. At Edge Craft, we used squares of cow hide which sill had the hair on it. One didn't actually have to shave the hair off, but show that the blade was sharp enough to actually get a "bite" into the hairs.
Sorry to be so verbose! Be careful!
Do you have any thoughts on the guided knife sharpening systems now available, i.e. KME, Edge Pro, Lansky, Hapstone and a half dozen others.
Amazing information. Thank you.
Thanks a ton!
Thanks for the info. Very helpful to understand the sharpening process.
Very good explanation! I am 64 and have been sharpening knives since I was 8. I can sharpen ANYTHING, just about, with a rock because of not giving up and keep on keeping on. A shaving edge and a working edge are two different edges. Most people DO NOT need a shaving edge.
Thank you for educating people! 😊
Finally, someone who mentioned people's expectations of their steel.
This is the first man I’ve seen to actually explain in understandable terms the what and why of making a good edge. This is a great video. His explanation of burrs and a wire edge and how to avoid them is just fabulous.
Right! Definitely agree. I left with a lot of overstanding just on the first watch.
The second point he made is just as important. Most people have no understanding that there is an inversely proportional relationship between how fine an edge you have and the life of that edge. You want a razor sharp edge on your knife, you're going to have to sharpen it fairly regularly and hone it constantly.
@@Rowgue51 Real butchers are the only people to really understand this. They sharpen knives several times a day.
@@feez357 you can't sharpen anything with any stone... you HAVE TO use a steel or strop to hone it... its like polishing your car with sandpaper... this guys a fool
@@Errol.C-nz Who are you saying is a fool? Nobody said not to strop or hone.
Dear lord you are genius! What you said about the shadow is critically important. I reckon one placed small flashlight on my work surface would probably teach me where Im going so badly wrong. I have watched thousands of sharpening videos and never heard this tip before. Brilliant mate!
One of your best videos. Well explained without getting too far "down in the weeds" Well Done!!!
That tip about the blade shadow is invaluable! Thankyou!
Nice video, good information.
I've been sharpening for going on 30 yrs and for me personally, it is more about the "sound" of the stone than the feel.
Another good piece of info for people is to not let the edge become completely dull/rolled.
Even though this may get some negative comments, another thing I have found is that just because a blade has an "established" edge does not mean that is the best angle for that blade even if it is a 1 degree difference.
I would say that the majority of people own mass produced knives which are ground to a certain angle at the factory.
Blades are as individual as the owner, 2 identical blades even from the same batch will respond differently to identical honing methods.
Another thing I have found is that certain blades can become "too sharp" and have such a fine edge that it dulls even faster, so a good lesson is to learn when to stop honing.
Listen to the blade/stone and they will tell you when the blade is finished.
I agree, sound is just as important. Theres a sort of vibration and tone that tells you that you are doing it right.
I 'show' people how to use a steel pretty frequently, and always tell them that im showing them and that im showing them and that they will teach themselves how to do it. You have to listen and feel to the steel to get it right.
🍻😎👍 The song of the steel.
On most of my knives I use my home made 15 inch strop way more than my stones. Stropping after use is to me an efficient way to maintain a razor edge on all my knives. Plus it's way more easy on the blades in the long run. I find it relaxing.
Fuck yeah,strop keeps the wife's lip in check too!
I have watched tons of videos how to sharpen but this Video Really shows you how to sharpen your blade step by step it’s like (Sharpening for Dummies) that would be Me Excellent Tutorial Kyle Noseworthy
This guy is a great teacher.
That fine burr on the edge is known as an arris edge, in cabinetmaking parlance , a very sharp chisel, knife or razer has it's beginnings with an arris edge. The technique of rolling the arris edge over, where you take a strop or the palm of your hand, moving the edge of the tool side to side until the arris or fine wire edge is broken off. Once the arris has been relieved, go over the edge once again with a very fine stone to bring back a much stronger edge, known as a bolstered edge. This will last 4x longer then the arris edge would. Also during the process of stropping, that fine arris wire is bent back and forth enough times to brake off. Seen under a microscope, a bolstered edge has two distinct angels if done right. Thanks for a great video.
Interesting, I will try this the next time I am sharpening a chisel or plane iron. Thanks for the info!
Check you out,smarty pants!!!
That's where I got confused years ago. Some old timer spoke of bringing(rolling) an edge over...arris as you said. And he sounded as patience to go straight to what you called a bolstered edge.
Heck, I can get arris edge on a putty knife using a 10" bastard file. (parts of my job was scraping Huge SS tanks, parts) ...removed by running along some piece of wood. ~ I learned to back off and my edge did last longer.
~~ Crazy them tank cleaning jobs. Say 1/4 of my time was resharpening, but I could clean tanks thrice as quick as many others. Thanks Jager. My minds eye pictured the burr breaking off and not as sharp even though it would shave my arm.
Are you Potato?
Interesting. I'm going to try that!
Good video. I am no expert in this, although I taught myself to free-hand sharpen a few years ago. The point about patience is key. Don't rush any part of this, both the learning how to do it, and the actual process once you've learned. I find and maintain the right angle largely by feel, you can actually feel the point where you are working the edge correctly with a little practice. Just get yourself a couple of stones, and an old kitchen knife you don't care about. Practice on that thing until you get a sense of how it goes. Don't try to learn on a knife you are worried about destroying. You need to know what being "off" feels like both when the angle is too shallow and also when it is too steep. You'll likely put scratches into the face of that old knife, but that is just part of learning. Eventually, if you just do it enough, you can start to feel the difference. Do it in a quiet space with no distractions and just zen out on it.
When I got my Mora Eldris, I had know idea how to approach a scandi grind. Thanks for helping me get that "scary" sharp edge, brother Kyle.
A good day, knife sharpens easily and quickly. Bad day it gets duller as I think I'm sharpening. As I gain experience there are less bad days.
Great video... thanks
I've been sharpening since i was a kid. I do it for a living now. One thing I've noticed through out the years, and i heard it in this video too. When you've got your angle and you're in the zone, your stone will sing to you. Listen to the steel and the stone together. When you hear it sing, that's when the best edge is produced.
My brother Ralf could sharpen. Never ever got the hang of it. Tried to emulate him. I think it's in the blood natural. Like a musician who is good
Finally some professionnal comment. Thanks. I was thinking about leaving a comment saying draw a picture and dude is actually drawing while i'm writing this.. 🤷🏻♂️ the better sharpener doesn't use his eyes .
Wish I could. I just can't
Can't is not an action. Remove that from your head. You can. Ok so you might have to work on it a little harder than others, but you can do this.
@@danndyandy Yeah. I can get a reasonable edge but not razor
Kyle, I just wanted to compliment your outstanding English. It makes for a very clear and listenable presentation.
Kyle, at age 77, I have been sharpening cutting tools from small pocket knives to machetes, as well as, hatchets to axes & bush hooks beginning to learn at around age six, taught by my grandfather. Many of my friends bring their pocket and skinning knives to me for sharpening. Most want me to "tell" them how to sharpen their knives. As you know, that is impossible to do when each knife or tool is a little different than the other. You can show them, (I tell them to listen to the knife with the fingers of their weak hand. it will talk to you via vibrations). However, the vast majority are not willing to make the investment required to purchase and maintain quality stones, much less dedicate the hours, days, and months of practice required to become proficient. I have reviewed numerous sharpening videos and am proud to tell you, your video is the simplest, most accurate, and most informative I have reviewed. Very few will follow your instructions, much less, dedicate the practice time, but please, keep putting the information out there for the very few who will!
NICE comment
Love the Newfoundland accent. I spent five years in Corner Brook and had started to learn to detect where a person lived in Newfoundland by their accent. 45 years later that "skill" is completely gone. Great instruction on knife sharpening. It really is an art.
Good to see someone that doesn't use gadgets to sharpen knives. I do think however that people generally concentrate too much on getting "razor edges" when they should really be concentrating on perfecting general knife sharpening. If you know how to sharpen a knife then getting a razor edge is nothing more than spending extra time on it. I also think that putting razor edges on knives is considered more important than it actually is, there usually isn't a need for it, in fact none of my knives have razor edges on them, but mind you they will cut you with just the slightest accidental tap. The only time I put a razor edge on a knife is when someone asks me to sharpen their knife because they don't know how. Then I will do it to show them what can be achieved with just your hands and no gadgets. I consider putting a razor edge on my knives to be a waste of time as the edge will last no longer than an edge I have spent a third of the time on and it will not cut more material before needing a touch up than a regular edge. Also, it depends on what I am going to be cutting with a knife on what sort of an edge I will put on it. On freshly killed game I prefer a rougher edge as it cuts better through rubbery warm meat. On my cheap kitchen knives I don't bother with stones, I run them against a smallish slow running wheel on one of my grinders and touch them up with a steel or porcelain rod when needed, I can get through a dozens knives in about two minutes using a grinder. Do I recommend this? No. You do have to know what you are doing when using a grinder to sharpen knives, a little goes a long way. As for how I tell at what angle to hold a knife against a stone when sharpening, its not even something I think about, I know just by looking at the knife against the stone what is correct for that particular knife. Sharpening knives is an art form and it takes practice to get proficient, there is no other way around it. Yes you can show someone how to best go about it but in the end its practice and lots of it. You can tell someone how to ride a bike but they will never learn unless they ride the bike themselves and fall off a few times. Learn to use a steel or porcelain rod (get full size rods not these gimmicky pocket things) to maintain your knives between sharpens, it saves a lot of time and your knives will also last longer. There is a reason why you always see butchers using them.
Nice video Kyle! You definitely know your sharpening skills! I'm a Canadian chef/lumberjack/carpenter and I love seeing other Canucks flaunt their skills on YT. Only thing you could have mentioned is the steel itself, and how it relates to sharpness and edge-keeping. Basically, harder steel will be more difficult to sharpen, but hold its edge longer, and softer steel will sharpen up quickly, but lose its edge just as readily.
Don't listen to the rumours about your accent dude! Your perfectly understandable for a BC native.
Ps: I dislike angle holders mounted on the back of the blade while sharpening, because they DESTROY polishing stones!
I'm going to sleep now... I'm happy with this video... I've messed up so many edges that I'm mindful....
Some guy once said to me (in Canada) "You can't sleep here" (in a bar after skiing for a week) then I closed my eyes again... Same guy then said same thing...
Now I drag my Dad's chisels a few times on ALMOST ANY MATERIAL.... RAZOR-sharp... It's like millions of dollars... Hundreds of hours... Canadian minutes...
Unrealistics... I'm still here after...
Yes very understandable , most people don't explain it correctly. Thanks
Finally, a Canadian!
And an east coaster at that. I'm sharpening my own stuff for over 30 years and i can't say enough about the strop !
You hit the nail on the head.
1) Proper stones.
2) Proper angle back and forth.
3) Take your time. It's not a race. Learn to like it. Make yourself comfortable;music, whiskey, cigar,whatever.
4) Strop Strop Strop.
You don't have to spend a lot of money to buy one. You can glue a piece of leather 2 the back of a board. Experiment with different kinds of leather just a small piece 12 in Long 4 inches wide that should do it. A little bit of Carpenter's glue and roll it down tight. If you take your time with that leather you can actually shave depending on the knife. My test is on my left arm. If I can actually shave the hair on my left arm then it's good enough for me. And yes my left arm is practically bald going to have to start shaving the coin purse soon.
Cardboard ALL card board has silica carbide in it's matrix. My dad taught me to use cardboard to strop with. It's a trick that has served me for over fifty years. In all this time and through all the chapters of my life I never bought or made a strop, I just grabbed a fresh box. I hope this little tip helps someone that never heard of it before. For those of you more experienced try it you may be surprised.
Very good video. Glad to see youngsters with skill.
(I've made knives since 1985)
The most to the point video about knife sharpening out there.
One of the best, thorough, most patient explanations of the topic I’ve heard. You’re a natural educator.
Intuitive way of describing, i have been having problems sharpening, I didn't think to measure shadow as a way to find edge, thank you
My dad ( he would be 116 now if... ) used a cutthroat every day. 4 or 5 passes on the leather strop kept that razor as sharp as the day he bought it. I guess what that means is that once you get it sharp it's easy to keep it there by giving it a quick touch up every time that you use it.
Great video Kyle.
Came for the advice, stayed for the ASMR 🤩Thanks man, great advice and great vid!
Strop/hone regularly after sharpening. Maybe after every half hour of use. Will help keep the edge super sharp
Love it. Most important statement made "Take some pride in your work".
Well...that may of been one of the best videos on blade sharpening ever. Thank you!!!!
A tip ive learned, and seams to help find the actual edge and not the burr, is to run the edge of the blade over a piece of wood lightly. I use an okd paint brush handle. If theres a burr, the wood will flatten/break it off, then feel the edge to see if its still sharp
Thanks Kyle, you're a good teacher. You explain things well, and you're willing to explain the same thing over and over again.
thanks so much
Indeed. Thank you both.
One of the best explanations on sharpening knives.. passion , patience and knowledge leads to sharp edges, exactly what your video teaches . Thanks.
And the best presentation of information, calm, to the point, and clear. No filler.
Take your time and have some pride in your work. Really something to live by been preaching this to my kids all the time 👍👍
NICE comment
I’m a new subscriber and new to free hand sharpening - thank you for your comment regarding being new and being patient - it’s a good reminder for the noob
Good to see a real sharpening video for a change that has the correct info, you freehand the same way as I do with the pressure and the edge leading finish. The final strop is just a magical moment that transfers all the work into a perfectly refined edge. Many forums have posts against the strop bragging that they can finish on a stone and that's it, do not underestimate the power of good stropping technique.
I run 3 strops (actually I have loads of paddle strops) mainly, Flesh side with green, flesh side clean and grain side clean. The first one will save you getting the stones out and touch up the edge better than you might think and the other 2 are used after the stones flesh then grain. Good job...
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Love to see a fellow Newf with something to say. Great info.
I'm glad I found your channel very informative and well put together
Absolutely stellar! Learned much. Thanks!
Wow, great video with a thorough explanation of knife sharpening.
2 great tips I've gotten for burrs too, a flashlight shining on the edge on both sides and if there is any burr it will scream back at you with reflection, and the second if you do your paper cut both right handed and left. With a burr you may get it to slice paper clean going one way while the other way will get caught. Great video, keep up the good work!
Both of those techniques work, although may take a little more time and effort than just being able to feel the burr with your finger.
@@kyle_noseworthy Ya I agree. Just a couple tips for people just starting. I know its really easy to miss areas with feeling with your fingers, where a quick check with a small flashlight you can see instantly. Even a small headlamp! You can even see tiny burrs that you may not even be able to feel. The paper cutting was just to touch on what you said about having a burr and still cutting paper smooth, but if.you were to cut the other side you would feel it on the paper. And of course sharpie on your bevel to see if your at the right angle. But all of these tips you will eventually not need when you get good at it. You can use your eyes and fingers and feel. Practice makes perfect right
Great tips, I learned more in 3 minutes than in years of 'sharpening'. Most insightful sharpening videos I've ever seen.
Best video hitting all essential points. I realize now how the burr misleads you into thinking you have yourself a fine, durable edge
Great video -- you are a skilled teacher/explainer and have a natural, relaxed presence in front of the camera. Awesome information too; I feel smarter now than I did 12 minutes ago. :)
I only ever use stone to sharpen perhaps the first time I receive the blade or if the blade gets damaged...97% of the time I just use the strop and the finest compound I can find....It gives me a polished edge an edge with a mirror finish that is crazy sharp... thanks Kyle
Thank you for this brother. Finally someone actually teaches you about my beloved craft. I love and respect the steel. Learn & know the Riddle of steel. Crom will ask you when your standing before him at Valhalla.
I've watched a lot of videos about sharpening knives and this is the first one I've come across that explains the knife angle. Tilting the blade up slowly until the shadow disappears. That part right there made it for me. Before the video was over, I grabbed a knife and a stone and ran the knife over the stone in the way he described. It was like I was given the golden key to knife sharpening. I have never been able to sharpen a knife by hand and get the results that would make me happy. Until now,
I have a pair of fillet knives with buffalo horn handle custom made in the Philippine. The high carbon steel blade from spring leaf suspension recycled from old trucks holds a razor sharp edge like no other. Filleting sea bass and halibut has never been so easy..
Iam in the Philippines right now, 4th time here and every time I always go on purchase sprees of custom blades, mostly karambits. And I've yet to get a blade that was hard to work with, even the cheap ones. Something about them, amazing.
great advice on the leather strop, more often than not when I sharpen finishing on a leather strop is all it needs to go from a seemingly inconsistent edge to a fantastic mirror polished hair popping edge.
strops don't work on all grinds
@@Enonymouse_ How do you mean, like what?
Very nice explanation about edges too thin to withstand use. Thank you.
Tried angle with 3 pennies a matchbook but this shadow trick has worked the best. Awesome stuff !!!!!
Once you've gotten as close as you can get to the angle of the established edge, from there you can use the sound and the feel of the vibration to tune into the sweet spot of the angle of attack that you want.
The other trick is that you need to match the abrasion on both sides, -you can either reverse the motion with the same hand, or, so long as you're establishing the skill anyways, might as well learn the mirror image of the motions with your non dominant hand.
I would add the angle of the edge also impacts how long it can retain a "sharp" edge for, example a chef's knife tends to be a steeper angle than something like a bushcraft knife with a Scandinavian grind on it so will be sharper but require more maintenance to keep it that way, but the angles will depend on what you use your knife for. Just an extra thing to take in to consideration when sharpening and maintaining your knife and may help with expectations of the life of the edge you put on.
Great video my friend thank you for sharing your extensive knowledge with us.
I agree however I just received a new USMC Kay-bar and it came with a 20 deg edge. In the suck Kay-bars have a specific purpose but I always considered it to be a bush knife. This knife came with a “ laser grind” edge and is sharp as heck and will take a finger with no hesitation. Working on my sharpening skills to keep it that way but was thrown by the steep angle of the knife edge.
Sound advice young man!
I used to sharpen blades for money when I was in high school.
(Graduated in 1982)
The importance of stropping is so often overlooked. It was the reason that I could make money; because that slightly convex polish held the edge longer during use.
Back then, it was just a proper leather belt with no stitching or embellishments, strapped around my foot and pulled tight by my left arm.
I haven't tried the leather on wood method yet, but I should.
Maybe you'll find interest in trying out the old school method, and offer up some feedback.
I liked the way that a "simple" strop could be made to adjust to different thicknesses/shapes by using variations in tension.
Keep up the good work, and stay sharp!
I've watched your videos, commented, received MANY responses from you (you're awesome about that), and the bottom line is, I can build a gun that will shoot "lights out", but I can't successfully sharpen a knife to save my life. You're a craftsman that can't be denied. I think it's the angle that messes me up. I can take a knife that needs sharpening, and with good intentions, put more waves in the blade than a California surf. I could show you my work and you'd have no choice other than to laugh out loud. It's just my luck. Oh well.🤷♂️ Good instructional video.
Great video ...thank you! This was hands down the best video on sharpening I've seen. I'm learning this skill and this was a huge help.....you rock!
Good vocabulary with excellent explanations of techniques.
Your neighbor across the river. (Metro Detroit). Great detailed explanation. I need more stones and a strop. (have 400/1000). Never used a strop. This will be new. Love the shadow illustration.
The sound at like 8:17 was perfect. Nice and smooth and consistent the whole length of the blade.
Also a good rule of thumb is to double your strokes each grit. So 50 at 400 grit. 100 strokes at 1000 grit. And 200 strokes on the strop. It gets boring but it gives you a good baseline for how much time you really need.
Also you need to make sure your stones are flat. You can probably cover stone maintenance in a separate video.
Good information and polite presentation.
Very polite 😎
You made a great point at the end regarding unrealistic ideas about how long a knife will retain that razor edge. I've sharpened knives to such a fine edge you can whittle a hair but it never lasts very long. I have three faithful edc knives that I rotate so I dont have to resharpen every couple days. They get pretty hard use as part of my job. Good video!
You’re so helpful and patient, thanks Kyle for your knowledge.
You are the Bob Ross of knife sharpening, Great job!
Remember to make your edges, happy edges. And that little burr right there, that'll be our secret
I love when you do sharpening videos, I’ve been sharpening for a couple years now and even if I’d been doing it for 20 years there’s always room for improvement, I always learn something when I watch these videos. -Kyle
Thanks so much bud!
Kyle Noseworthy you’re welcome brother, it’s always a joy watching your work in action, genuinely.
Agreed. I run a sharpening service, and you really can't learn enough, as there's always tips to get it to the next level! Good job!
@@sharpen-up Thank you!
I've been sharpening knives for 48 years. There's still room for improvement.
I personally cut my edge with domond plates and finish with red and black Arkansas stones then strop, but this was well said. It took me 3-5 years to get good at free hand and I ruined a few blades in the process. When you are good at this though there is no substitute that can make a finer edge.
I really liked the part about the strip cause I have been carving and woodworking for most of my life I’m 15 now and I don’t have any stone I have 400,800,1000,1500,2000 grit sandpaper glued on old tile and I get razor sharp edges every time thanks to the strop And they are highly shave worthy as well It just goes to show how important they are
Excellent video my friend,you give great advice,just subbed and I'll slowly make my way through your Vids.Stay safe.
You know your stuff kyle, its very rare for a young bloke, please keep up the good work. Regards jack australia
One thing I wasn’t quite sure that came across is quality of steel. A Chicago blade is softer metal it won’t hold a edge as long. But it sharpens faster. Harder steel takes longer to sharpen but hold a edge longer. Great video good tips thanks.
Amazing info, best sharpening videos around. Thanks 🙌
This is the first video of yours I've watched, and I have to say I was absolutely thrilled to see the NFA No Compromise logo being represented. Also enjoyed the video and learned a few things. Keep up the good work Sir. 😎
The shadow tip is very helpful Cheers
I know this comment is late in coming but, so is my understanding of sharpening. Thank you VERY much for this video.
You really pulled together a lot of the pieces I'm trying to learn about sharpening with your advice in this video. Explaining inconsistencies with the visual lines and the 'sharp' burr left on an unfinished blade makes the concepts clear. I appreciate your content. Thanks from Ontario!
when you can shave your face instead of your arm with your knife you have mastered how to sharpen a blade.
Very informative video, Kyle. I learned a lot and I'm subscribing.
Thank You ! Your Wisdom and Experience shine through. Education could not have been more interesting and beneficial. Keep up the Great work and awesome videos. Doc. C
Good info Kyle. If I had ran across someone like you ten years (or more) ago I would have saved myself from years of hard knocks! I just wanted to add my 1 cent....When finishing a blade I take one more step after stropping with compound by stropping my blades on thick cotton material. This gets rid of that micro-edge that is subject to rolling. I then test my edge and if necessary go through more compound stropping and final cotton stropping until I'm happy ;-)
Hell....a strop even without compound makes all the difference in the world (although compound doesn't ever hurt). The back side of my belt or the side edge/spine of my knife holster (if it's leather) works for me.
Knives can dull when not in use because of oxidation of the steel at the microscopically thin edge. This is also true of razor blades. Keep some oil or silicone on your knife edge and keep razors out of the humid bathroom. Cellulose (wood and paper) contain amorphous silica that is harder than steel, which is why cardboard, paper, and wood (and leather) dull knives.
Thanks Kyle, that was very informative and I agree with you that there is "no substitute for experience".
Nice job you may have a bigger gift in teaching than you think
One thing I learned the hard way is you need to be careful mindful and most of all be patient with skills that he shows here
I bought these awhile back super nice stone. Togiharu Two-Sided Sharpening Stone #1000 & #3000
Love this video, thanks for the links too. Helps us beginners find our way.
Type of steel, grind and bevel angle also contribute to edge retention. Great video!
Great video! One other thing I found helpful, when I was learning, was using a marker to "paint" the edge, so I had an accurate idea of what part of the bevel I was actually sharpening.
Yep, some people like that little trick!
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I think it's the most valuable tip there is, for anyone trying to sharpen a blade,,
The video was well done. And full of simply explained tips, and tools.
Thanks
realistic expectations of what you should cut with a knife so true ive sharpened a few knives for friends just for them to lay what there cutting on concrete or steel and dull there edge in a few strokes and say i guess its just a crappy knife but even a cheap knife can be ok if you maintain it and use for intended purpose .
haha yes, it's important to be realistic!
Just cause a knife is cheap doesn't mean shit that explanation "it must be a shit knife" no mate you just don't know how to look after your blade its that simple I have bought top quality knives that were made with shit quality steel and I have bought cheap blades as cheap as $1 and the steel quality has been amazing but even with shit steel I can maintain that sharp edge on the knife I am sorry your friends don't appreciate there blades the way they should my friends treat there knives like tools and leave them around and they wonder why there knives never stay sharp my last knife i sharpened was my 20cm kitchen knife and that was 2 months ago because i look after my blades which i presume you do as well my point is you and i can maintain our sharp edges and yet it baffles us how people can dull a blade so quickly
That's what utility knives are for; buy 50 or 100 packs of blades, use and abuse them as the job requires, Chuck them and replace them as needed.
Hi Kyle, thanks for the info. I just ordered the items you recommended to take care of my knifes at home.
I got the same stones because of your video and found them to make such a difference in getting a good edge. Great info.
its just a matter of time... i can achieve a shaving edge (and i am) with a chinese double grit dollar stone and a strop....
depending on the knife i would do a serrated edge instead of a shaving edge cause its just better at heavy duty than a shaving knife...
the only advice i give if anyone wants it... is to practice all the time, take half an hour and sharp or re sharp a knife, no matter the knife (i mean its preferred if you use a cheap knife) and get on with it... sooner or later you will master the sharpen technique and the best part it will be your technique...
angles are important but not that much, you can achieve a shaving edge with different angles on each side...
just go at it... i watched lots of sharpening videos, tips, tricks you name it... but when one doesn't have access to japanese wet stone or a fancy diamond/ceramic stone one's has to work with one's have (a literal dollar chinese sharpening stone).
one thing i would say, the strop is the most important thing you will need if you want a shaving edge...and of course a fine compound.
How the heck did I end up here at 2:00 AM? I don't even have a knife!!
Bedtime Stories - Trance Classics on Piano - I have absolutely no idea why I’m watching this at 2:43 AM or how I got here either! This must be CZcams’s version of a dead end street....
Hahahaha. I'm here at 3:15 AM and like you, I don't have a knife either
How do you cut your onions then?
And two weeks later at 0:33 AM I found myself here too..that is odd
Bedtime Stories - Trance Classics on Piano get one. 5 bucks from Walmart
I really appreciate your time and talent, Kyle.
Patiently and well explained. Thank you.