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Ultrawide Lens Battle For Nikon ZF (17-28mm f2.8 vs Viltrox 16mm f1.8)
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- čas přidán 21. 05. 2024
- Which is the better ultra wide angle lens for Nikon Z mount? Nikkor 17-28mm f2.8 vs Viltrox 16mm f1.8. Both have pros and cons on the Nikon ZF. Does Nikon have the worst vlogging stabilization in the business? So far, the Nikon has a most beautiful image at the cost of everything I love lol.
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Nikkor 17-28mm f2.8 amzn.to/3V9WcyU
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Tamron better for me
I really like the footage you’ve made with the ZF lately 🤙🏻
The Zf is looking good! Nikon's 40/2 is an amazing lens, the 28/2.8 is better than good, but not as special as the 40. I'd take the prime over that zoom on FF for sure. On my Z30, the Tamrikon's are good, but not even close IQ wise to even the 24-70/4 S on my Z6/Z6ii's.
The 24-70/4 is great value if you can buy it used.
I bought mine in mint condition for Eur 390,- in a store with warranty.
@@Getoffmycloud53 same i got mine for 300 € last week its superb
When I think of a shill, there are many CZcamsrs that come to mind, some sponsored by Square Space. Boy you are the opposite of a shill. You actually help people.
Hey man, little advice for cleaning elements, been there, alcohol leaves smudges and traces behind.
Take 4 100% cotton q-tips, some isopropyl alcohol and some distilled water.
Take 2 q-tips, wet with the IPA and slightly dry them against a cotton blanket (push the tip to discard excess liquid), then start rubbing them gently against the element in a circular motion from the outside to the inside.
Once that is done, and IPA has evaporated (it's quick), wet the other two q-tips with the distilled water, repeat the drying process to have them damp and not wet, then repeat the motion you did with the IPA but for some more laps around the element (8-10).
If needed you can repeat the last step with distilled water till the element is clean.
This is the factory standard cleaning process for lens elements, goodbye fingerprints and smudges!
Viltrox had the better look but when you put up the 28mm, 40mm Nikon, and especially the Voightlander 58mm even at T4 the rendering and pop on that lens was phenomenal.
I agree that you cant match rendering in post with white balance or color panel change. The look of those low element older lenses are just special.
Is this straight out of the camera or tweaked in da Vinci? I continue to be impressed by Nikon’s ‘secret sauce’ regarding exposure for human beings. I remember that even when you tested that inexpensive Nikon model 30 camera sometime ago (but it had a goofy flip screen as I recall), the exposure was pretty good.
It's N-log, so graded. Just the official LUT.
@@cameraconspiracies The colours are beautiful 🤩🧡🙌
I know a lot of people like the managed color space in da Vinci better than the Nikon lut but may not be your work flow
@@richards1243 The SDR works pretty good as well, shoot in Neutral to cut the contrast back a bit.
You must have missed Angry Photographer's lens cleaning tutorial: cotton buds and demineraluzed water only. Circular motion. Light touch. Change buds often. Dry with fredh buds w/o water.
Purified water is correct but cotton buds is wrong. They leave streaks and residue. You need a microfibre cloth, which lifts dirt and water and never scratches.
@audioupgrades Air blower takes care of any bits of cotton that might be left during the drying stage. Cloth is hard to move near the extreme edges of the outer surface of the front or back element. I use both cloth and buds, and buds have their advantage even in that they aren't reusable like cloth.
Zf with the 16 milly villy? The cinema is ours. That is pop.
0:35 funny you should say that, I just got a ZV-E1 & noticed the stab isn't as awesome as my old Sony miniature Camcorder, which was an amazing optical balanced floating lens vibe....
I’ve only had to shit on one product that was sent to me. It wasn’t even a horrible review but I couldn’t recommend it and the company got pissed and wanted me to take the video down. I didn’t.
Using Electronic Stabilization on the ZF, you need a very fast shutter 1/500 or faster for it to work its best. Try it out 👍
The colours are amazing. Also, how could Panny boy do this to us. The pony of hope abandoned us, unbelievable.
Get a sandisk multi card pro reader. That will see you through for years.
It's thermally stable. Keeps cards cool for transfers and therefore stable speeds.
Got all the card slots you need..
The cinema is yours
5:53 And here we see the warpy waving jerk.
Joking! I love this guy's videos! 🤭
I laugh and laugh through this video. Its worth the price of admission🤣
Look at the size of that lense..
For vlogging
Xh2s
(Now with touch tracking to stick to face)
New lenses galore.
Sigma 10 18mm 2.8
2024. 260 grams
.
Then you have the new fuji primes for the sharpness and depth of field.
18mm 1.4 lm. Special lense. No distortion and user sharp..
.33mm 1.4lm
Try 1080p video. It might read out better?
Why you want to blur out the backgrounds, it is so nice to have stories of the place, there is one photographer shoot his photo at f8 too, bokeh make you looks like you can be at anywhere, 14-30mm f4 will do!
I am looking at all my cameras, Where is the Toneh Priority Mode? 😭
You should give the Tamron SP 15-30mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2 a try. Heavy? Yes 1100 grams, plus the FTZ adds another 100 grams.. but those G2 lenses on Nikon are not what you became accustom to with Sony. The stabilization actually works. I can speak personally to the 15-30, but the 35mm and 85mm were both stellar on the Z6. FYI, many Nikon lenses and other Camera companies best lenses are made by Tamron. My tamron 35mm and 85mm both registered as Nikon lenses in exif data because they are the same lenses as the very popular F mount 35mm 1.8 and 85mm 1.8 Nikkor lenses, just with added weather proofing and better stabilization. Cue the "More you know" rainbow.
I'm new , i like colors what nikon camera do you use ?
Hoodman enzymatic lens wipes. Only thing I've ever found that isn't a total pita for cleaning lenses. I use them very sparingly
The Viltrox image was nicer but honestly 16mm is too wide for vlogging unless you want to feature Rat Boy in every video. I would try the 20mm f2.8, sounds like a great little compact vlogging prime if the image quality is okay.
The warping is worse than a Red Hot Chili Peppers video.
Viltrox looks way better ,
But 17-28 kinda versatile to some extent, I wish it could have been 35
When using a full frame lens on APSC camera or in APSC mode, the image is cropped in to the extant of the camera (@1.5 Nikon and Sony, 1.6 Canon) however, the aperture does not change. A f2.8 lens remains a f2.8 when used on an APSC camera or in crop mode. Using a tele-converter (introducing additional magnification) will adjust the aperture, this is also visible when shooting, you will notice the drop in light/brightness of the image in the viewfinder with a 1.4 or 2.0 tele-converter.
You always multiply the Tony's for background blue on aps-c. You have to reframe your shot, and you will lose background blur.
@@cameraconspiracies Sorry, that is incorrect, Aperture controls the amount of light the lens provide to the sensor. The sensor crop factor changes the field of view and depth of field, not the amount of light coming in. When you meter a scene with a light meter, it doesn't care about what sensor is being used however, the aperture range of the lens is what you would be inputting. if you meter for f1.4, 1.8, 2.8, etc., it provides the correct exposure values based on the chosen aperture.
@@waynerm002 You are correct with respect to aperture and its effect on exposure. But Kasey’s referring to DOF, which does scale with the crop factor.
@@waynerm002 When have I ever mentioned light? We're talking about background blur.
@@Joe_VanCleave Apologies, that wasn't clear in the video, he just said 1.5X crop and posted the values based multiplication of the focal length and aperture. There are a lot of discussions I've seen with people saying manufacturers are lying about the aperture on crop lens. If they are solely basing it on the depth of field or the "Tonneh" look of a FF lens, most of shooting for a long time understand this but, those new or getting into photography/videography aren't aware.
Just a though as i had the issue with forced overheat shutdown of dji pocket 3 in EU (48 celsius - recent change to the law) that would not happen is US companies are removing high framrate due to overheat legislation in EU and to simplify development/distrybution. They could manage those by gelocation in firmware but maybe they don't want to bother. So in the end smaller cameras/phones without the fan are downgrading the slowmotion options and we can expect that it will be a trend.
And btw. There is an workaround with text file on sd card that will remove this limitation in a pocket 3 but still this may be the case why we are losing fun high framerates
With 25% crop on digital stabilization you can probably use cheaper/smaller apsc lens no vignetting?
What's worse than FullFrame but better than APS-C?
APS-B
Actually, it's APS-H but you were close :)
Do you monitor your audio? Especially when you film outside? Every time Jordan from petapixel review a camera like the lumix s9 .he complain about the ability of monitoring audio and in my entire life I didn't see someone monitor audio except of him .I've seen wedding being filmed with monitoring. So is it justified that he's complaining about audio monitoring in a camera for tiktok and social media where people use iPhone?
That Viltrox lens is pretty awesome, looks great too.
The Zf stab is horrific. The jitteryness is really really bad. I'm kinda stunned.
f1.8 16mm was not available until a couple of years ago, am I wrong?
The Nikon colour science 👏👏👀
Maybe orange shifting the reds a little will take care of the skin redness, but otherwise this is magnificent
Viltrox looks better but it’s really shaky and warping. Tamron looked better when you walked fast, than viltrox just standing.
wow the background looks like a bobble head
You can use microfiber with any cheap lens solution to clean your lens easily without smudging.
Tested the hec of the Zf on my channel. Stabe is terrible. DJI Pocket 3 makes all cameras obsolete for vlogging. Just have to carry it with a camera for photos and talking heads. Got to say though I love the Zf. I definitely shouldn't have sold it for the X-H2. It will be back in my life very soon!
Don't use rubbing alcohol, man. It can even strip the coating. Use some ethanol (everclear) diluted with distilled water.
Liking the Nikon lens over the Viltrox even though Viltrox has more Toney. I don’t trust you anymore, though. Your reviews are not biased enough 😂
Use Zeiss Lens wipes for clean your lenses. They are the best hands up and down. You're welcome!
@05:28 _"I threw up in my mouth."_
Where else would you throw up, but in your mouth?
tilt-shift would be a fun side quest
Great stuff!! Just curious, what city was this shot in ?
Toronto.
The music was hot! damn cool vibe
The color looks good, something about Nikon video is fine as hell.
I've got to be honest, the warpyness and shakiness on the 16mm is pretty well unwatchable for me.
You're popping with that Villy
Colors seems great. The stabe is sadface
Honestly - in slow mo, your DJI OSMO Action 4 looks a lot better.
I kinda like the Nikon ZF
that looks really good
I think you secretly ordered that s9😂
That Viltrox is a no for me, even next to the Tamkon. It's so dull looking. Someone needs to send you an ftz adapter so you can venture into the F mount world like you have with the Canon EF lenses.
Viltrox all the way.. they are killing it and making brilliant optics. in this video is night and day the better IQ of the Viltrox.
The Uwell Aeglos II are the most legit yet. Its even funny as hell it has a 13watt and a 55watt. There is like a tiny fraction of a difference output, its like paper mario, 2d is pretty cool. But most people probably cannot recall over one hundred things. Menu systems basically are there for the people that make menu systems. You ramp it up, like 12 6 8, but your just going to confuse people. Like i got this astrolathe calculus pluggin and you adjust invisible nature. The 13watts is for salt coca cola because the ceramic doesn't corrode. But its still better than my freemaxx gallops that clidesdale pretty good. Im sure lens never come down in price, maybe 5 years and like 50% off. Gotta buy a house. Im not all jacked up, huge yard. Just a two bedroom has 1,300 square feet, mostly like 1906, so of course their thinking strategy isn't modern like, this guy should dress like a woman.
The 16 is pretty sexy from a pop perspective.
Do I see a hint of 3D pop from the Viltrox? Or do I just want to?
Dear God, no. It's all in your head.
Only a hint indeed, circles in out-of-focus area have tend to be darker in centrer, it add distraction and ruine 3d-pop effect. But zoom even worse obviously.
NIKON RULES
Can't you just buy the voight 21mm 1.4 and just find no use for it and sell it to me? M mount please.
I bought the 3 set Sniper lenses to use specifically with the Zf and really like them so far. Might be worth a shot!
"..switched into Toniature priority..." LOL!! Do you ever run across the street slower while shooting slow motion for cameras that don't do 240? Have a great day!
I think Kasey should cross the street while mimicking slow motion, then speed up the footage to normal speed,
7:00 song is fire
I like the song.
After 20 years Nikon can't break the 14mm barrier, Deal with it pink boy.
Yeah the Nikon stabilization can be a bit aggressive and wobbly when it comes to videos at shorter focal length. Pretty annoying.
But it absolutely stomps all over Sony when it comes to tele lenses. Handheld videos at 600mm with my 180-600? No problem. Until my arms fall off that is. But that's 100% a skill issue on my part.
Ya, but that's not what we're talking about. Fuji is also amazing at telephoto stabe, but not wide.
@@cameraconspiracies At shorter focal lengths I'm still trying to figure out what works best for me... Electronic only might be the way to go forward.
@@MattisProbably I mentioned this on the last Zf video, on the Z8 setting the shutter to 1/250 or above provides better performance for the eVR system. I've tested with VR set to On or Sport then activated eVR to better stabilize the footage, less than 1/250 shutter, annoying micro jotters are present. Check the video I posted on my site on the Z8 eVR system, I was walking at a good pace and it performed well. Oh yeah, you can also apply additional stabilization in Resolve as well.
@@waynerm002 Thanks I'll try that tomorrow!
I’m a shill for this channel
LOL on designed a meeting!
Dude, should not you be in Kyoto?
Tony-ature Priority 💀
Ohhh now you like color fidelity, I'm a bit joking about that but what you say often not pinting color fidelity so is "3d pop" bcause with lower glass number comes a lot of downsides as astigmatism flare chromatic aberration which are leading to the opposite of fidelity of color department and shure you can get all off what you want but not on somewhat old lenses like canon ef which will have a variety of color shifts.
What I try to say is that your journey is not wrong but just blind sighted, modern lens have there place so we can enjoy much modest lens with flowes in it, 3D pop is just a "your perfect view on what an image should looks like" so please man don't confuse what you like with science and good things. better of looking at yourself as an artist who educate people on tast not on thruth because if not you are all wrong and worst of all you who think your are showing a new way, you are exactly doing the same as half the youtubeur here.
Because if there wasn't anything to criticize of modern lenses you were not there, so let them be so we can enjoy flowed lenses, and if for exemple you want an exemple of what canon can make as crazy flowed and good lense try the ef 28mm F/1.8 usm
But don't try to pretend that your old lenses quest lead you to color fidelity that's not compatible
You know nothing 😘 !!! Fuji 16 -55 T2.8 is the way to go for quality zooms, but you don't have what it takes. Love your channel, stay as you are !!!!
Nikon wins
Use sport ibis only for video, unless you're trying to hold a static shot.
It's much worse, I already tested it.
The autofocus on the Zf is usable but that may be its only redeeming feature. The colours would be its worst feature. It genuinely looks like you have a magenta filter for b&w photography on the lens.
at 15:00 the stuck red pixel of death starts.
whwere
@@coin777 I can only see it when watching at 4K. It shows up around the middle of his chin. Pretty noticeable for me when viewing at 4K.
Hmmm zf is a lot better stabilzation than you are here representing , user error lol
For vlogging with a wide angle it isn't
How do you figure? Show me someone walking and talking where it's way more stable? It's especially bad in slow mo running across the street which is unforgiveable :)
Let’s be honest IBIS with a super wide angle on FF is challenging. It is one thing to take a hand hold photo or static film, but once you start walking you have to compensate for a ton of movement. How many FF bodies can handle walking with a 16-17mm with IBIS or IBIS with digital stabilization? IMO you are looking at gyro territory and not hand held and if hand held not without digital stabilization which will crop your FF. How can you physically compensate for walking motion with a stabilized FF sensor?
@@Getoffmycloud53 Panasonic does it fine, Sony too. Canon is good with OIS + digital.
I thought the electronic stabe looked good.
red colors are too saturated!
Love my Nikon ZF, with the grip. ❤
Nikons stab is one of the best when the camera is pointed away from you.
Full PSC 🤣🤣🤣
The Viltrox does not look good. Did you place a literal piece of grey film on that lens or something? It just straight up looks dull compared to the Nikkor. Usually differences between most modern lenses is negligible, but not here. Nikkor wins in literally every department. Lets be honest, any aperture under F2.0 is a total joke. "Image quality is fully compromised, but at least the ive got dat der blur, even covers my subject!" This is coming from a Viltrox fan, my 85mm is the 1.8 II FE. Nikkor by fatality.
Please give me your horrible vblog camera lol
no 3D pop and nasty's colors in the sky!
Respectable stab? 😂😂🎉 C'mon..
Nikon full frame... not for mobile vlogging. Poor pooch, chained to a pole, what was his crime? And where were those promised squirrels? Now that we know you will sell your soul for a stinking card reader, I am beginning to wonder. Are those beautiful black Canadian squirrels just ordinary grey squirrels rolled in soot!? If one of them sneezes we will know, because of the telltale puff of soot.
14:09 I see dead pixels... 👀
First. Yep me again. The first to see CC in planet Earth.
mammal
How are you going to use a camera like the ZF to vlog while walking around w/o a gimbal and expect it not to shake? SMH... also, who expects a retro camera to work like Z30 which is made for Vlogging? lord help us with these CZcamsrs who hate Nikon so much for no reason lol..
Because it has 8 stops rated IBIS. Z30 has none. It should be way better than it is.
Z mount ick
?
Woo hoo!