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#19 - 1965-72 FoMoCo Mix Code
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- Hello, and welcome back to the “Yours in old FoMoCo iron” CZcams channel! My name is Adrian Clements, and today in video #19 we’re going to investigate and untangle the very confusing story of Ford Motor Company’s paint colour with mix code #1730-A as applied to passenger cars. We will see that this paint colour was marketed under FIVE different names during six model years between 1965 and 1972. We’ll begin by identifying the mix code in FoMoCo literature and reviewing a summary table of the eleven model year, vehicle line, Color Code, and paint colour marketing name combinations for this mix code. We’ll then see supporting FoMoCo literature for the Color Code and marketing name for each of these eleven combinations, and photos of a car painted this colour for most of the combinations. Let’s get started!
Yours in old FoMoCo iron,
Adrian
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:01 Master Parts and Accessories Catalogs
4:23 Summary
8:13 1. 1965 Ford Mustang: Color Code “3” = “Poppy Red”
10:04 2. 1968 Mercury Montego (some): Color Code “3” = “Calypso Coral”
11:04 3. 1969 Ford Mustang Boss 302: Color Code “3” = “Calypso Coral”
12:24 4. 1969 Mercury Montego (some): Color Code “3” = “Competition Orange”
13:59 5. 1969 Mercury Cougar Eliminator: Color Code “3” = “Competition Orange”
15:02 6. 1970 Ford Maverick (some) : Color Code “1” = “Vermilion”
17:12 7. 1970 Ford Mustang & Torino: Color Code “1” = “Vermilion”
19:16 8. 1970½ Ford Falcon: Color Code “1” = “Vermilion”
20:18 9. 1970 Mercury Cougar & Montego: Color Code “1” = “Competition Orange”
21:43 10. 1971 Mercury Cyclone Spoiler: Color Code “1” = “Competition Orange”
22:38 11. 1972 Ford Pinto: Color Code “2A” = “Medium Coral”
23:33 Close-Out
Very interesting and comprehensive data. I recall seeing many new 1965 Mustangs painted "Poppy Red" in my hometown of Victoria Texas, including a family that lived one block away from my parents. They kept the car for a good number of years. As popular as this color seemed to be on the 1965 Mustangs, you never see this color on any 1965 Mustangs today.
@gormanwpjr, thank you - I'm so glad that you enjoyed video #19. Thanks for watching, and Happy Holidays, Bill!
Yours in old FoMoCo iron,
Adrian
Very interesting, as always, Adrian. Interesting notes: For many years, I attended the Fabulous Fords Forever show in Southern California. In the early 2000s (I can't recall the year) I parked my Augusta Green '68 Standard Cougar next to a Calypso Coral 1968 Cougar, still owned by the gentleman who custom ordered it new. It only had about 65K miles (IIRC) on it, and was rather unusually equipped -- 390 (4V), with the White Interior Decor Group bench seat interiork among it's features/options. It was subsequently featured in Hemmings Muscle Machines. I know the gentleman has since passed away. Also, I used to regularly attend the Marin County (CA) flea market , and in the early to mid-'90s, would often see another special order car painted Calypso Coral -- a '68 Colony Park! The color looked really good with the "yacht deck paneling", black interior and black vinyl roof. I never had the chance to meet the owner, unfortunately.
@DSP1968, thank you - I'm glad that you enjoyed video #19! Years ago I saw a 1968 Mercury Park Lane convertible with a blank Color Code, a 6-digit DSO, and painted Calypso Coral. I'll bet the Calypso Coral '68 Mercury Colony Park station wagon you saw looked really good!
Yours in old FoMoCo iron,
Adrian
I ordered a 1972 Pinto Runabout in Medium Coral as my first new car after college. For all these years I just remember it as my Red Pinto!
Wasn't the Maverick color marketed as "Thanks Vermillion" along with "Hullaba blue" etc.
I remember those gag names.
@loumontcalm3500, yes - "Thanks Vermillion" and "Hulla Blue" were paint colours available on the 1970 Ford Mavericks built between March and August 1969, along with "Anti-Establish Mint", "Original Cinnamon", and "Freudian Gilt". As explained in the video, "Thanks Vermillion" was a darker paint colour than 1970 "Vermilion".
Thanks for watching, and Happy Holidays, Lou!
Yours in old FoMoCo iron,
Adrian
Very detailed and very interesting. I've got a early skinny bumper pain pill that I've had for so long I think it's a 72 but I don't recall. It's a station wagon but it's not red. I've had so long and now it's cool 😎
I know a original owner of a 1971 Cyclone Spoiler 429 that is Vermilion interior and Exterior. Bit more Red than Calypso Coral, Competition Orange.
My favorite, Cylipso Coral . The perfect BOSS 302 .
It's not unusual for General Motors to use the same paint mix across all five makes, but it's funny to see it jiggled around to match the marketing department!
Also available on 1965 Ford Econoline vans and pickups as code 3 and called vermilion. Most commonly found on the 65 "spring special" Econoline pickups.
I remember this color as being much more orange than red to my eye.
I had an Aunt who ordered her 1965 Mustang at introduction in April 1964. She ordered it in Poppy Red with white interior. She owned that car well into the 1970s.
@g0989, your Aunt had great taste in cars! Thanks for watching, and Happy Holidays!
Yours in old FoMoCo iron,
Adrian
Only a minute in video so far but the 1970 Cyclone SPoiler 429CJ starting at :52 seconds to 1:02 is actually my car! I have owned many many Fords n Mercury's with this color including Cyclone seen here with houndstooth interior another '70 429SCJ 4.30 4spd that had White interior, 1969 Boss 302, 1970 Boss 302 and a 1969 Mercury Cougar Eliminator 428CJ-R along with a 1966 F100 Short bed I just sold a few months back. I always remember color by PPG number 60449
@randyrestoration, I'm glad that you recognised your car! I got those pictures from you a few years ago.
Yours in old FoMoCo iron,
Adrian
I remember when John Smith still had his 7 Litre a group of 7 Litres stopped off in Akron Ohio for the night heading to Carlisle and a guy drove in from the West coast in a special order poppy red 7 Litre hardtop.
@ericheld4382, that was the Rapp brothers; I remember that one of them was named Dean. Thanks for watching, and Happy Holidays, Eric!
Yours in old FoMoCo iron,
Adrian
@@adrianclements8916 I do run into John Smith every now and then he not as active in the car community as he once was this summer we met up at a car show he gave me a bunch of early super Ford magazines and a bunch of dash plaques.
I’m surprised it was never named “Grabber Red” or “Grabber Orange” 😂
@Alaska_Engineer, I agree! For the 1970 model year, Ford had the following "Grabber" colours:
1. "Grabber Blue", Color Code "J" (called "Competition Blue" by Mercury)
2. "Grabber Orange", Color Code "U" (called "Competition Gold" by Mercury)
3. "Grabber Green", Color Code "Z" (called "Competition Green" by Mercury)
Color Code "1" was called "Vermilion" by Ford and "Competition Orange" by Mercury. I wonder why Ford didn't call this paint colour "Grabber Orange" and call Color Code "U" "Grabber Gold" to follow the naming convention for "Grabber / Competition Blue" and "Grabber / Competition Green"? I'm an engineer too (Chem Eng '89), and inconsistencies like this drives my OCD up the wall!
Thanks for watching, and Happy Holidays!
Yours in old FoMoCo iron,
Adrian
@@adrianclements8916 My Brother in law had a 1970 maverick Grabber and the Color was called thanks Vermilion, with black stripes.
Question: if mix code 1730-B is for a touch up tube, does that mean the actual color mix code is really 1730 with the suffix (-A or -B) calling out the container size? Maybe the dash A just means a gallon can and has nothing to do with the color.
3B = Bright Red 1972 Ranchero GT. Is this lacquer or enamel ? Was it baked in 1972 ?
@davebodi, according to Page B-16 of the "Torino" section of the "1972 Ford Car Facts Organizer", the "3-coat acrylic super enamel finish is baked on to form a protective cover over the body sheetmetal while providing the deep-lustre beauty of baked-enamel finish." So, the paint is acrylic enamel and it was baked.
Thanks for watching, and Happy Holidays, Dave!
Yours in old FoMoCo iron,
Adrian
@@adrianclements8916 Thanks so much ! So what do modern body shops do to replicate that when I have it restored ? Happy Holidays Brian !
@@davebodi, you're most welcome! I don't know what the choices are for modern paints to replicate 1972 acrylic enamel. I recommend contacting a reputable restoration shop like Mike's Classic Cars in Elkhorn, Nebraska. Their website is www.mikesclassiccars.net/ and the phone number is 402-289-9310. Ask for Eric Johnson, and tell him that Adrian sent you.
Yours in old FoMoCo iron,
Adrian
Thank you @@adrianclements8916
Once again the Cyclone Spoiler 21:23 is my car. Did I send you photo's? A copy of Eminger Report?
@randyrestoration, those photos came from a Facebook post you made on December 2, 2016.
Yours in old FoMoCo iron,
Adrian
i took one look at this and said poppy red.
@kennethdong8490, right you are! Thanks for watching and Happy Holidays, Kenneth!
Yours in old FoMoCo iron,
Adrian
And to think marketing buĺshit is infinitely deeper today....
So if I call My 1970 Mustang Grabber, Calipso Coral instead of Vermilion you can't say I am Wrong! if I call it Poppy red It is still Correct.
@mylanmiller9656, you can call the paint colour anything you want. However, Color Code "1" on a 1970 Ford Mustang is correctly called "Vermilion".
Yours in old FoMoCo iron,
Adrian