These CS2 Cheaters Just Exposed Everything.
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2023
- A few days ago CS:GO content creator Sparkles released an interesting, albeit slightly controversial interview with two infamous hackers.
They provided insight into how they do it, the types of cheats that are becoming available, and how hackers are planning to keep the party going in CS2.
But they also shed light on what could be the most important question of all… why do cheaters cheat?
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I have zero sympathy for cheaters. No good reason.
reason: have fun. Just like people trolling online
@@lankymario7189not a good reason
But what if I wanted to go in creative mode in minecraft (not defending pvp cheaters, but imo pve cheats are fine)
fun. thats literally it. the brain will do a lot for dopamine whether it's healthy or not
The reason why most people cheat and why I cheated is because it is like a whole new game. I was legit at first for a long time. The goal was to get to global and I did so the game lost pretty much its purpose especially because it was so repetitive. Then I started cheating and it felt like a whole new game mode. I mean playing against legits is as boring as playing the game normally, but playing HvH was fun. One thing we did with my friends was that we went to non prime and played legit and when enemies toggled, we toggled and it became an HvH.
Too often people say "cheaters cheat because they are bad" and while in some cases that may be true, most of the time cheaters are just normal players who had enough. Also if you feel like cheating is more fun than playing it regularly, cheat.
I’ve never really had a problem with cheaters in any other game, but when it’s in a competitive cs:go match, it’s where it bothers me because I have to sit through an entire match against it and I can’t leave without getting banned.
That's why i played short match when queueing for competitive. If there's a cheater (luckily there's none in the last 2 years for me), at least it'll be quick
@@alieffauzanrizky7202How does short match have less cheaters?
@@MrCabooseb17 He plays short matches for when he does encounter a cheater, He will not have to wait for a whole long match for the game to end
I came back to the game recently and I’ve not been on it for a few days now because my past say, 6-7 games, I’ve had a cheater either on my team or there’s. I can’t wait for CS2 because I’m hoping it will be much better.
try tarkov. Like half the playerbase are closet cheaters who use wall hacks to avoid pvp or get the jump on someone. The harder the game gets the more cheaters it'll bring.
u simply cannot justify cheating in online games, its just a lack of character
You could argue, I had a friend who was a Minecraft pro, and he showed me that after he was done with playing normally, he liked to go on not popular servers and cheat there for fun. And he had great mental he wasn’t toxic at all.
Post edit* i was wrong but i’ll leave it for the discussion
@@LoreSernikowe no he was really toxic, by cheating, someone is toxic, it is directly a toxic act
@@Helperbot-2000is is false lol. Not an inherently toxic act. Only when it fucks with someone else is when it becomes toxic
@@litetix Half the players on minecraft are cheating it's not fair nor fun for anyone else
@@LoreSernikowe lmao where is the justification? all i read is that you have a friend who cheats bc the game is boring and they lack creativity
" I cheat because of other cheaters" is literally just people lying to themselves.
They're looking for any excuse or justification, because they don't want to admit they would cheat anyway.
Yea I cheat and it’s fun
@@_vaporand you live a sad miserable life if the only joy you can find is cheating at a video game
@@yusteryumeister4601 imo people overreact about cheaters lmao. Most of them are just people wanting to troll a game. They ain't doing anything illegal lol
@@D4VID9724 Cheating, trolling a game. These two things are things that these "players" do to take away fun from other players. Sorry but your take is really dumb. And saying that they aren't doing anything illegal does not mean it should be alright. Also by playing the game you agree to game's terms and one of them is no cheats... but you cheat... so you deserve to be banned and that's it. Imagine going to restaurant and started screaming all the time for no reason there, is it illegal? no... will you get kicked out because of being idiot you are? yes.
@@D4VID9724 for minecraft, offline GTA and other single player games do what you want.
Competitive FPS : You wasted everyone's time as well as your own by refusing to learn how to play on an account that WILL be banned at some point. I.e. Get Good.
Nothing was gained as you didn't learn anything and achieved a hollow Victory.
"I started cheating bc cheaters ruined my fun, now I'm going to ruin EVERYONE's fun"
It's the only way to get something fixed.
Hypocrisy
makes sense in a way. I remember years 15 years back there was a super popular fps game called Combat Arms and that shit was cheat infested. The hack shield was so much of a joke that everybody cheated in that game. Nexon didnt know how to fix the problem so they sold a monthly "mod" perk that you had to buy so you could kick cheaters out of your game.
@@Astelchthat's messed up, having to pay to clean up their game 😅
It's ethical if they only use the cheats when there's cheaters in the enemy side, people do that in small games with large amounts of hackers
as TheWarOwl once said. cheaters are the result of being bullied and lack of father as a child
It sounds like thats a society problem less the cheater
A lot of cheaters are paid to help boost people. As long as a game has some form of ranked, people will pay to get boosted.
That does not sound like him at all.
well that be 99% of America whos father wasnt always at work or were when you hanged you wernt actually hanging but bro time where people never talk about themselves people like you are just looking for some bs nonsense like daddy problems
Hey is it daddy problems when your a used car sales men is it daddy problems when your a spam caller or because its india your going to try and spin it as mommy issues
If you cheat
You’re a bad person with a toxic character and most likely a terrible ego
There is nothing to argue about it
i just think its incredibly embarrassing. if one of my friends turned out to be a cheater id just make fun of them and disassociate with them.
Propably. But you can only blame Valve(and playerbase) for allowing cheaters. If they wanted cheaters removed, they could put some walls around their game and not just toilet paper protection, just doesn't seem like they care. And it's not like they don't have the money to do so. Playerbase also needs to show their opinion stronger if they want cheaters banned for Valve to care but I see all the time players judging other players who call someone a cheater, calling them bad and so on.
More people would rob banks as well if there was no protection of any sort or no laws/punishment for doing it. Can't expect people to follow rules which are not enforced.
Or a child. I give children a pass because they haven't developed their character yet
@@philosophist9562as a many-decades developer with patents in comms and state of the art advances, it's not easy. It's not easy to design distributed systems to begin with. Adding adversaries into the mix makes it so much more difficult. Some things that might be possible are impractical because of the compute budget. Other things are more or less impossible
People cheat in competitive video games because they have no other sense of power in their life. Them killing someone who has worked countless hours on their aim, movement and game knowledge with the click of a button gives them a sick sense of satisfaction.
Yeah but they are still weak little shits regardless. It's like using a gun to kill a samurai. Only for the weak
Lmao you clearly never cheated in a game
@@_vapor thats a good thing ...
They cheat because it is fun. Although some may like to overall have control over things and that is a part of their personality, it does not mean that they don't have any control in their life, it is most likely the opposite, they like to control most of the things in their lives.
@@Zondels”they cheat because it is fun.” The only source of fun they have is ruining other people’s fun in a video game, that’s sad.
People cheat because they want to win but are not ready to put in the work.
No, they cheat because it is fun. If the game was fun as a legit, or course they would put in the work..
@@Zondelsits both, even if a game is fun the cheaters do it to negate the work they need to to to get to that point. They want to win without the work invested in it. In the video they talk about rage, which I think is true, think about then ur a kid where ur getting ur ass beaten by ur brother you get to the point where you are so angry you started to take risks that make you blunder more, same aspect as that
@@ZondelsCheating is fun for the short-term. If you cheat in the long term you are just immature and don’t know what having fun is.
@@ZondelsThank god I spent 30 mins of my time playing matchmaking just to satisfy your way of having fun and for me to feel miserable. Good for you man.
@@rip3650 How would cheating be fun in short term but not playing legit? Also having fun is subjective.
"I cheat because of cheaters" is literally the most popular reason to start cheating...
i mean, fits to the fragile character of said cheaters
Never in my life did say to myself "these cheaters are pissing me off! Time to join them 👍👍🤡🤡🤡🎪🎪"
@@Klemen1xit’s fun to beat other cheaters
@@Klemen1xcongratz! U want a cookie for your accomplishment?
@@prxarn6167 In all reality the original alleged "cheater" was probably just good at the game. I constantly got the Fair Play Warning screen when I was playing Black Ops 2. The hackusation is a badge of honor.
Sparkles doing the CS community and the score a massive favour
imagine spelling favor with a u. it isnt fancy
yeah ! massive favor now even more people are interested . big W ..........
@@felixwarp imagine not knowing there's other people around the world.
@@felixwarp That's how it's spelt the proper way, not the dirty yank way pal
When I got killed in a competitive match, I can spectate my killer so I can learn better from it, improving my skills. But with cheaters, I got nothing. Nothing except disappointment.
You can't spectate enemies. In comp atleast
@@monstrouscapacity1790 ı think he meant watching the demo of the match.
Here's a good way to stop cheaters. If someone is blatantly cheating in your game just report them and go afk. Cheaters cheat because they have a superiority complex that you're feeding into if you continue to play the game. If every game that a cheater played everyone was just afk they wouldn't get any enjoyment out of it because it would be no different than killing bots. Go afk and stop giving them the satisfaction. They chose to undermine the competitive integrity of the game, show them that you won't even acknowledge them as a serious person. If your kid starts crying and screaming because they want candy you don't give them the candy because that enables bad behavior. You're supposed to just ignore them.
Thats actually true about rage cheaters. You could destroy them by going afk. But there are more "legit" cheaters out there than rage ones. The legit cheaters are not that obvious cheating, so you just might think its just a really good player.
If you go afk your trust factor will go down so you'll play more with toxic players and cheaters.
But the said kid doesn't use hacks to gain candies. They are whining simply because they don't know the value of money, they only know candies are delicious and they want those and adults like you are capable of buying those. You don't simply ignore them, you can teach them the value of it, how would kids understand why you can't give them if they got ignored? ignoring them is simply negligence behavior from a "responsible" adult
Somehow I understood why you are pushing a griefing technique against cheaters. And yes AFK is griefing no matter whose team they are.
And it doesn't justify going AFK just because there are cheaters. Cheaters would have an easier time winning which is also another reason why they would cheat simply to "win", and they would get away with it because they wouldn't show their cheats on people that aren't even moving. And they would report you for AFK.
you know you can get banned if you go afk right?! the cheaters can actually report you for it... wouldnt be the first time that happens
@@sauceinmyface9302 Ok, then just run around with your knife out.
My buddy used to do this too. After like a week he started being the cheater in games, which made others start up theirs and the cycle only continued further.
Nice friends you have 😂 remove these people from your life.
"my buddy" is actually you right? lol
@@leefswgoh7558 Idk why u think cheaters are afraid to admit they cheat. I have cheated. I also hate cheaters. But if Valve doesn't care I might as well join the party and not try to fight cheaters as a legit player. Not that CSGO cheaters are that common, they are common but I've recently played Tarkov and that game is FILLED
ScriptKid needs to collab with Valve, instead of banning cheaters. Just use backfire system
Cheaters ruining the game? Why not ruin the cheaters game?
Didnt that guy fake videos?
@@kyperactive Fake in what way? The fake "cheats" he developed are very real, and he even livestreamed developing them.
@@MrBa143 As in the footage of the cheat in action not seemimg real. Like come on. Recording you constantly? No demo footage? No HUDs?
You telling me someone isnt gonna notice the performance dip and also not notice that the cheats dont work? Yeah no, I call bs.
Does it not seem the least bit suspicious?
@@kyperactive Well i dont know, thats why i asked. I haven't seen anything about him faking it, but yes of course it is a possiblity.
You can take a different perspective though. Imagine how many people that download free cheats every single day, now look at the long period inbetween his videos.
You are completely right, you would notice right away that you dont actually have any cheats when you get into your game, but do you think someone would just ALT F4 at that point? Some might do that and say fuck it, but i am sure its feasible in that long timespan, he would get footage of people just continuing with their game, and playing with what they might think of as a broken cheat.
Its not like his videos have footage of 100+ people. I dont find it suspicious at all, but do i know if its real? Of course not nor do i care.
All i know is that the "cheats" he developed was 100% real, if you were to run it on your computer and go into a game. He had his viewers help him find fun shit to implement. Alot of hours and investment if the video was fake. He could just have edited the video, instead of actually developing the program.
there is no current anticheat thats live in the beta test , dont worry on the launch , cheats arent gonna be that open source
And their cheats are only shown on the offline mode.
Of course Vac Online wont detect it. They're flexing it like its gonna work online....
We know what's up.... THE ONLY REASON I PLAYED VALO IS BECAUSE OF THE ANTICHEAT....
Cant wait for CS2
Thats just delusional, there are public open source cheats for every single fps game and the source engine and vac have both been analyzed and reverse engineered for like 20 years.
I'm hoping we'll be free of cheaters for at least a few months, but that just doesn't happen in most games.
well this aged well
@@grandemcfloofin8376 cheats aren’t open sourced HAHA , the ac is working fine
I’ve always thought that Valve could pay a few people to go online and download cheats, discover what cheats are legit and what works and than attack those sites. Valve should have a group of people whose full time job it is to look for cheats online and than attack those sites.
most companies have security teams, they do these. they investigate what bugs and hacks available to their system.
Sounds good but cheating will never go away as stated in the video it’s cat and mouse. New anti cheat is made and cheaters find ways around it. Most you can do is hold off the cheaters temporarily
What do you mean by attacking the site? Sounds illegal to me
@@schockofrescher it's been a while since I did any of related to these, so my memory is fuzzy.. but they could the report the website to the telecommunications department or the website provider and have the website taken down.. best they could do is learn how the hack works and counter it in their system.
Valve doesnt own the games and their income goes up if cheaters get banned from individual games which forces the cheaters to buy another copy. There was a guy in Day Z spawning heli's one night, he said he was on his 9th copy at the time. Arma II wouldnt have sold nearly as many after the Day Z mod if Valve was hitting cheat sites. Its in valves best interest to keep steam accounts seperate from game keys, so you can buy multiple copies of the same game without needing to lose your entire library, thus keeping cheaters in the economy. If steam started banning cheaters they would lose a lot of money overall.
Valve need to implement Valorant system into CS2. Improve the anti cheat detection significantly and whenever cheaters detected they get a live ban and the whole competitive match get cancelled. This will demotivate most cheaters because they are cheating to gain ranks and if the match get cancelled the ranking points doesn't count.
If this was a petition, it should be signed, sealed and sent by every CS player to the Supreme Court.
It's sad really... imagine needing validation so badly that you'll pay extra money to cheat at a game you're obviously not that good at, instead of just finding another game where you can legitimately be a winner & get your dopamine fix without the extra cost & bonus cybersecurity risk.
the mentality of a dizzy 5 year old...
"Today I saw a guy robbing the bakery, so I'm going to start stealing food too"
There's no excuse for cheating. Period.
How many periods do you need?
The answer is their fragile ego .
With the first point, leetify alerts you through a steam message when anyone is banned from a recent game
Thanks for the video ! i couldnt watch sparkles video than 1 minute without getting crazy tbh.
2:48 my teammates called me crazy but I always knew there was something shady going on with some enemies hitboxes!!
programming, hacking, making cheats for singleplayer, making trainers, modmenus to cirvumvent greedy microtransactions (GTA5 im looking at you), fiddling with all the necessary tools --> that's cool, ffs even HVH servers are cool?
cheating in a competitive environment Online --> that's just low. lack of character, lack of respect towards those people that actually wwant to play vs people that play legit, knowingly destroying someones gaming fun
agreed
the fact that my chest made it into the video is just ☠️
I can relate to the "because of other cheaters" reasoning a little because when I was like 13 I used to play this small mobile fps game called coalition or something and it had alot of cheaters pretty sure they didn't even have a feature to report them so I just downloaded hacks and turned it on whenever I see there was cheaters in the game
"you can't satisfy everyone"
I can see why people would cheat, especially when smurfing is so bad in games like CSGO. There's not much difference between having a higher skill rating but playing lower rating to give yourself an unfair advantage, by program or by actual skill. Either way, the only reason you're doing it is to feel superior about yourself. In both situations you're purposely manipulating game mechanics for your own benefit.
Good point. When I used to play CSGO I hated smurfs ruining my games all the time, I hated cheaters as well but truth is smurfs are more prevelant. And I think people smurf for same reasons as some people cheat. Eventually I cheated. At first I definitely focused mainly fighting cheaters, just tried to ruin their fun, then it went to ruining fun for players who talk shit. I don't see point of cheating against regular nice players personally, I don't think its fun for long periods of time but I know most cheaters do that for years. I also don't find smurfing fun.
there are also cheaters that cheat only and only against other cheaters (on community servers). basically full-on hack vs hack, who spins faster, who avoids bullets better, and who has a better resolver. they do not affect regular cs playerbase that way.
oh and i'm sure they never go onto valve servers and toggle on not even once when they really need to clutch for their team... not even once. no cheating is bullshit even in HvH... HvH is just a playground for people selling cheats to work on their hacks in a developer safe area. if you think those HvHs dont' take those cheats and test them in real match making servers you are a fool.
As a CS:GO cheat developer, me and my team mostly make cheats for the legacy version of CS:GO (2018) but CS2 has opened many new exploits and old exploits came back due to valves changing in the files, thing such as rapidfire, i doubt vac live will stop anything, we will just find a way around it or find a anti report exploit
i would like to compare the number of downloads you have to the overall number of people who have played on any servers. it would probably be mind boggling and you are just one developer. guys like you probably realize that at least 1 in 5 players is cheating in any given game certainly. that means in a 10 person game at a minimum 2 people are hacking... they are not necessarily the top fraggers. if you are obvious you will lose your skins and no one wants that. the funny thing is that because the rage hacking problem is mostly gone people never report to overwatch anymore. of the overwatch games i have seen i think that most of them had some sort of assistance. but maybe i voted to convict 5 people of all the overwatch games. sometimes peopel are just having a good day. some times you spam through a smoke and get a lucky headshot. i know it is possible. me personally i have never cheated I really don't have a reason to. i think the higher ranks have the most cheating along with the lowest ranks. people grinding it out in gold nova 3 for 3 years probably are not cheating but they come across many that are.
I think it is funny how many hackers in my team think they are sneaky and denie my akkussations when i can cleary say after 11k hours in 9years that he cant play that good with his movement, crosshairplacement and decision making.
people do get better and people do get lucky. but hackers are everywhere.
Here is a list of all the reasons I can think of for someone cheating, and what I think goes through their heads when cheating.
1. Trolling, to the level of simply enjoying being an asshole.
The blatant cheaters who don't care about being caught, they just ruin people's games for satisfaction.
The kind of guy who would teleport you around the map in GTA and kill you just to make you feel miserable.
2. Ego?
Idk the exact word I'm looking for, but what I mean is like, someone who cheats to feel superior than others, like a "haha I'm better than you" kind of fella, perhaps someone very narcissistic is likely to cheat for these reasons, idk, I'm no psychiatrist.
But I expect these cheaters to be the ones who get most mad when you beat them cuz you're taking their need for control away from them, and they get all like "wait no, that wasn't supposed to happen".
3. Rage, like the video mentions, can also be a motive. They keep losing and instead of accepting and improving their skills they get revenge through cheating, they're the "If I can't have fun, no one will" kind of person, and they are probably going to become the second kind of cheater I've described, and get mad when some skilled af dude takes their control away from them, reminding them how they didn't get any better at the game and they actually suck.
Both 2nd and 3rd can probably be generalized in ego as their motive, for some fucking reason their brain needs the dopamine of being the top frag of the match, this and the 1st kind of cheaters are the most immature of all probably.
4. Payback? Some sort of justice?
They probably were once a legit player, who got mad that people were cheating at the game, so they cheat back to make them taste the same poison, to beat the cheaters in their own game.
It's at least a more "respectable" kind of cheating, I don't support it or anything, but I can't deny that It's rooted in the competitive desire to play a fair game, like "Oh so you're not gonna play fair? You cheating huh? Fine. **turns on cheats** Now it's a fair fight".
If pro players beating cheaters are heroes, then cheaters beating cheaters are like anti-heroes.
The motives don't justify the means, it's still wrong, but at the very least they don't want to ruin the fun of other legit players, unfortunately they are only making the problem worse since cheaters are likely gonna cheat even more in return.
5. Money. Like the video says, not much to say about it. Dude is trying to make some quick money, not much different from literally stealing money, since the tournament prize would have belonged to someone who deserved it and they took that away from them. And it's not the "I know this it's wrong but I need this to survive" kind of stealing, it's the materialistic greed kind of steal.
6. Shortcuts.
More common in speedrunning or rythm games I'd say. There are fewer of these cheaters compared to others since it (sometimes, not always) requires them to already be good at the game before cheating.
These are the kinds of people who set world records or are the first to beat some insane challenge, are already pro players, and they cheat just to get world records/accomplishments faster and accumulate records.
Like Riolu, who was a really good Track Mania speedrunner, and was legit skilled at the game, but had a shit load of records that were faked. Or SpaceUK who at first was a legit Geometry Dash player but at some point started faking all of his accomplishments.
Idk what causes these players to decide to cheat, well obviously they are doing it to not have to grind some hard af level or run, but the root of the problem is unknowable to me. Perhaps they want to be seen as the absolute best, like a narcissistic desire for admiration? SpaceUK for example was considered the best player by the GD community, and faked being a legit player even to his closest friends, betraying basically everyone's trust, from fans to even other pro players who respected him as a fellow pro/friend.
If you know any other kind of cheater feel free to add to the list, or not.
I just wrote this for science :)
Programmers. CSGO is arguebly the best game to get introduced into the world of manipulation of a executable / running process for cheating purposes. I've cheated a fair bit, but the purpose was to test the cheat i was developing. Its a fun and addicting process. So my intention was never to ruin the game for others, that was sadly just a product of what i was doing.
@@MrBa143 you should admit what you have done to valve and tell them to ban your account before you sell all of your skins. repent. i don't care what your reasons. repent.
Private CS GO accounts are mad suss... I am about to have a 20 year old steam account and never once thought about making it "private".
cheating in an online video game where you are knowingly ruining the experience of everyone else in the server is such a weird and anti-social behaviour
It is by no means "anti-social" nor does it have any connection to social psychology. Most people do it because it is fun.
@@Zondelswhy don’t they get another source of fun instead of getting an ego boost?
As someone who never cheated in any other game, I downloaded walls in csgo when I was younger because it seemed like every game I played I was playing with or against cheaters.
I lost track of the amount of times someone on the other team would start spinbotting, and someone on my team would go “okay I’ll turn on my spin bot”
Its the whole reason I switched to valorant. I need to be able to trust that I died to my own lack of skill rather than someone using walls or aimhacks
@dranzer2003the first game are kinda always bad because of the bad trustfactor you have, but after playing for a bit, it's generally better, especially if you rank up, but not too fast, because if the game thinks that you are "too good" he will send you with cheaters and smurfs, so yeah, you might have been "too good"
@dranzer2003What he’s saying is complete BS, the trust factor doesn’t even work in the game. It just randomly decides it wants you to be tortured for 2 weeks with cheaters every game
Yea, Valorant also has a shitload of cheaters, In the top 500 of EU, there are atleast 25 cheaters.. An old friend I played with was there and he showed me he was cheating his ass off, so he is no friend no more..
@dranzer2003 their character would look at the ground and spin wildly on server side, but on client side (the cheater) he would appear normal, and just aimhack the absolute shit outta everyone through walls. It’s wild
@@cody6550 yeah trust factor didn’t work for shit, I had well over 1000 hours and trust factor. You still play tons of cheaters to this day. Even going on faceit with a better anti cheat wouldn’t solve anything. It was certainly better but not great still.
I used to love watching cheating content just because I liked seeing how things can be broken and exploited to gain an advantage. Just thought some of the things were really cool to see
Some cheaters watching this video and still thinking it’s normal to cheat is like a thief watching the news on recent robbery and thinking they are not in the wrong, while justifying their acts
Sometimes i feel hacked sometimes i feel smurfed and im reaching a point where i feel like a hacker
Please, don't call them "hackers", they're just cheaters, nothing more grandiose than that nonsense.
True, but the people Sparkles interviewed make cheats themselves and that can be counted as hacking.
@@user-lb9st8li1i I actually used to make my own cheats, it's kinda been awhile since I touched online cheating, but when making cheats it actually was a good learning experience. I think getting a grasp on how things work by making one actually teaches you a lot more on how variables work in memory, and how something functions. Also don't dig your grave that quickly.
@@Zondels no they don't they buy them. i saw the interview.
@@sonicjoplus and most cheaters are just like you my friend. that is part of the reason they don't get caught.
@@psilocybemusashi Didn't one of the guys say something like "it took us a week to make it" when talking about the ESP?
Why do cheaters cheat? To win and ruin other peoples games hoping to incite some kind of reaction, mostly in the form of rage, even if they don't get to see the personal react.
Wrong. Cheaters cheat because it is fun and rarely to win or get a higher rank. They are also not looking for a reaction from a legit player, but from a cheater that would toggle and then they would get an HvH.
@@ZondelsIMO, this is a bad generalization. Having played a cheater infested warzone a couple years ago, where there is an open mic at match end. Based on what the cheaters said after the game, I'd say about 70-80% of the cheaters loved to get a reaction from the legit players. They got a lot of satisfaction out of it.
@@badasskurt Don't know about Warzone cheaters but in CS, I have never met a cheater who was so keen on winning or getting a reaction from someone who was legit.
As a Valorant player, if I ever decide to cheat, it would be only because of my teammates who always turn out to be either super toxic, or sabotage the team by flashing and body blocking.
Losing or getting smack-talked by enemies is one thing, but teammates who intentionally suck, throw and sabotage is just another level of rage inducing.
................still .... just dont
@@mantie7 never have, never will. But that's the only instance when I find it tempting.
Then the answer is to stop playing the game or to find friends to play with. Not to cheat.
@@ghassanzaatiti615 what you think you are a good enough programmer to hack vanguard without getting chaught. give me a break. or are you openly admitting in front of everyone that you know of hacks that can be purchased to defeat vanguard... better let everyone know because the common theme in this comment section is that csgo should be like vanguard so that the cheating will stop. pff. i know better.
@@psilocybemusashithere are enough cheats that are undetected in valorant… just search for it and you’ll find some.. also there are many live streams on tik tok of people using it.
The rush of cheating and maybe they get away with it is something I feel would be a big reason. Something that you have that others don't have is very enticing for people to do it in my opinion.
I think it’s similar to ‘why we own guns’ mentality. Personally from what little knowledge I have, cheating will continue to exist as a nature of the community. The only way to mitigate cheat might be to fix it on system-scale.
Punish cheater is important. But we know that preventing them (and maybe adapting) is more important. Personally, only ban is not enough because Streisand effect, things like equality scale, better matchmaking, better community guideline, better communications, and more learning opportunities are keywords to prevent cheater in the long-run.
And yes… ban is more feasible and profitable. So, this might not be a large problem for Valve in priority though.
Such a good comment.
It is so funny to just look everyone whos never been in to the real cheating community trying to guess different stuff and the reason why.
Cheaters cheat because they have no motivation in getting better, it's a problem rooted deep in their personality, it's like a scammer that doesn't want to earn money by normal means but takes the short root. They basically lie to themselves about why they cheat "because others do", which is in most cases just a better player.
@@S4NSE And where do you get this information? In the communities i was people just hvh stuff. Ofc always is someone who plays mm but most of people just do community stuff. Atleast back in 2019
@@wacuumcleanerdealer9410 then we are speaking of two different things, sry
I'm legally blind and partially deaf, i could have started using cheats to compensate for my issues. These cheaters don't have balls to train and get good at the game.
Get good
damn 💀
thats no excuse
Its almost the exact same situation for smurfing in Rocket League. Its so easy to make a new account on Rocket League and go right into ranked, but even worse is the fact that they NEVER ban people for smurfing, which is directly against the games CoC.
Anti AIM? Like.. HOW broken does your game need to be, so that client actions can F up the serverside of a game? This should not work in the first place.
I speculated of antiaim around 14 years ago in CS Source. It already were a thing I guess.
"Other people are cheating, therefore I will cheat too because I'm mad"
"Please ignore the fact that me cheating will create more cheaters with the very same mindset I had and make the problem worse"
Either this excuse is a lie or they are extremely ignorant and stupid.
Both
It's not a lie. Also if you reach the point where you want to cheat you don't care about the game anymore so you don't care if it gets worse. It's not about stupidity but think what you want. It is the fault of game developer/playerbase not caring enough about cheaters, so it just gets worse and worse and if you are very competitive person and fight cheaters daily you will lose your mind.
A study has shown that younger players( teens and kids) are the majority of cheat users. The reason is that they can't control their feelings about losing or being yelled at in game.
CS2 ALREADY has cheaters!?!? jesus christ...
I hate cheaters, they just ruin the game for everyone. Same with these damn smurfs
The "If you can't beat em', join em'," mentality is exactly what ruins all of gaming. I don't mind getting shit on but getting killed by cheaters is so annoying. The biggest takaway from the sparkle video was the 60 degree hit box offset. The amount of times I have wondered where my bullets go makes a lot more sense now. Especially when they throw out a ridiculous number like 50 percent or something of cheaters would go away if insane.
Not to mention the amount of anonymous polls where 50 percent of people or more use cheats in multiplayer games.
In 2:05 he tells you "ignore this video and just watch this other one, I have nothing to add to the conversation"
cheating in a game like cs is the biggest dopamine rush there is, truly addictive.
imagine being punched in the face ...
continues cheating is like stealing, the amount or value does not matter, it is how you did not get caught gives the adrenaline
Lol unranked short match. Was he cheating? Ummm duh.
unjustified. L take
I feel like cheaters were born because of smurfs. People have this thought "Oh this guy is cheating, I should also make the tools to fight them back" when in reality they are just better because they are smurfing. Until cheat tools become famous, being used to abuse/troll the game and others will use them just to counter someone who thought they are cheating or really are cheating until it cycles. Not only in CS2 but in other games as well, but the point is that CS2 should address smurfing and cheating ASAP.
Pushing the blame onto smurfing is not the solution. The problem you outlined here isn't smurfing. It's the cheater's ego. That's it. They're a bad person and would rather sacrifice the fun of dozens of people, if not hundreds, than let a part of their ego go because people are better at them in the game.
@@versamax6307 Man, if you will read it carefully the point is both scrubs are destroying the game and both have egos not only the cheaters. Don't just point out the cheaters point out the smurfs as well both are cancers, destroying the fun of dozens of people. And I am not trying to suggest a solution I'm just saying where it all came from and why they pop out. Are you also one of the smurfs who is looking for validation in getting yourself called good from the rest of the players in that match, I mean are u getting sheayt on in your original rank?
@@versamax6307 and if I will suggest a solution for the cheating problems, I would say if Valve do really care about their players, they would be inspecting the CS dev team specifically the the ones who are assigned to engineer/ develop the Anti Cheat system, because I feel like this people are the main source of the problem they proly selling the codes underground so cheat tools developers can crack it and make the compatible tools to bypass the security and then sold it to the scrubs ez additional profits. If this is the case they need to hire a new devs and create a new anti cheat system. If Riot and Faceit can do it I believe CS2 can also do it. Unless the whole Valve is part of this shenanigans, they will never fix this, no solutions
@@nyeeef5535 CS2 is both far too early to start smurfing, and has anti-smurfing measures. You have to essentially pay 15 dollars to play a singular good smurf match and then throw that away because of the skill based matchmaking. Not to mention that games that physically can't have smurfs and largely doesn't matter if a smurf is inside the game (EG; Escape from tarkov, GTA 5, fortnite, etc) have huge cheating problems and no smurfing problems. I've played every single one of these games and I can say for a fact the idea of a Smurf has never crossed my mind, and yet they have the largest issues with cheats. So clearly smurfing isn't the primary or seemingly a leading cause of cheating.
@@versamax6307
I doubt that there are no smurfs in some of the games u mentioned and who the hell smurfs in GTA V and Battle Royale Games? And this are new games, I'm pertaining that it all started in the old games "Until cheat tools become famous, being used to abuse/troll the game and others will use them just to counter someone who thought they are cheating or really are cheating "until it cycles". Not only in CS2 but in other games as well, " after all tools are made to solve problems
VAC is probably the worst anti cheat in the business.
Make your own content.
Cheaters gotta cheat cause they are bad lol. What a sad existence. Get good
This is such an old and dumb comment. Cheaters cheat because cheating is fun. That is why you do almost everything in your life.
@@Zondels L take
Last night I was in a comp game and the other team had a player with 0/0/10. Our match was SO laggy despite all of us having peak ping of 30ms. As soon as one of our team members made an entry to a site, we all started to rubberband and then we're dead.
As someone who spends thousands on skins, case keys and intern steam market fees. I truely hope that CS2 squashes cheating with its mega VAC live claims. If not, I think we will have another WZ issue on our hands. I dont invest into skins to log into CS because its a 3D art gallery, I log in for 3 things:
1: I love the naturally competitive aspect of CS and its high skill ceiling.
2: The enjoyment of having earned a skin and every round asking if someone wants a drop to then hear their reaction.
3: THE HOBBY BEIBEH!
Cheaters will most likely always find a way. Best bet is something like Riot Vanguard. But then again, do you trust Valve enough for them to have 100% access to your PC all the time it is on?
@@ZondelsI’d rather trust a private company like valve than a Chinese company who’s only job is to make copies of other popular games and leech off other’s success. Although both companies get all your information.
the amount of "good players" who "got bored and downloaded cheats" is really fucking sad, honestly. Self-improvement is the best part of gaming, and they just throw that whole part in the bin...
Having fun is most important in gaming. For cheaters, cheating is more fun than playing legit.
Message for hackers:
You can cheat in singleplayer OR in online games BUT on special servers for example HVH servers in csgo. (or at most just cheat on non prime servers)
DONT CHEAT IN COMPETETIVE SERVERS BECAUSE YOU ARE DESTROYING FUN FOR OTHER PLAYERS THAT ARE LEGIT
And everyone will be happy :)
There is one solution and one solution only to this: You verify your identity using your full name and passport and you get to play with other people who are also verified. If you get caught cheating verified, you get a 3 or 5 (or something) year ban from playing the game (and potentially other games in the same verification system). This makes it much more high-risk and a lot more difficult to circumvent once caught. Is it a bit dystopian? Sure, but I think it's reasonable enough for this situation as it's never going to be solved with just anticheats if people can just create a new account and start over immediately. Also; if you cheat you're a pathetic excuse for a human.
I believe in south Korea you are required something like this (I think similar to the social security number) that is why not anybody can play in the south Korean lol servers. I think that China is similar
That’s way too much of an ask for a game like CS. It filters out a lot more of the playerbase than you think. Similar reason as to why valve don’t want an Intrusive anti cheat
Another big company gathering userdata giving one more reason to use the playerbase, like it's a puppy
@@jamrah8713 Maybe, but it's the only solution if you want to get rid of cheaters.
This is better way see south korea nothing have this problem
One of my favorite games is BF1, but it’s hard to play nowadays because of cheaters. With only a limited amount of full servers and the game not being supported by EA anymore, cheaters are literally killing the game off. You come across them regularly and there’s nothing you can do. Absolutely sucks.
There was a time in cs when half or more of the players were closet cheating, anytime someone did something suspect the game was over
Just make better glove skins that don't look like they were created with paint 3d & bring back cobble . That's all. The game is fixed.
love it when csgo players want digital items that have cool colors on them instead of new guns and maps
@@beggy_ it's csgo not league of legends. I don't want changes. I don't even want new maps.
@@beggy_ lol this isnt fortnite lil bro
@@beggy_ bro , the game has been out for so long , its perfection from every map and every gun , there is no need for balances anymore , the only thing valve can add now is cosmetics
@@ItsLooga crazy that the game still gets balance changes like removing half the awp mag or the m4a1s mag changes too people say the game doesnt need changes or maps are fine but then you have maps with 2% playrates and guns with 0.002% pick rates why have guns that are NEVER used why have maps that might aswell not exist the game obviously needs changes otherwise cs2 wouldn't be happening
In my opinion, you don't private your profile unless you have something to hide.
a lot of people prefer having privacy online and dont want randoms who are tilted or angry going on their profile and commenting or stalking it, ik when i was younger i privated my profile
@@xcy7240 you kinda forfeit privacy to your steam profile when you play a multiplayer game. That’s like complaining that people know what you look like because you went outside.
@@Lunar_OG you don't know what their job, salary, name, mother's maiden name, etc is though, and they have a right to keep it private. that's the same thing with private profiles where you can see their avatar but not what other games they play.
@@humanoidsandvichdispenser no one had that info on their steam profile, and if they do, they are extremely stupid. Don’t tell me you actually think that’s a good excuse.
@@Lunar_OG of course, i was just going along with your analogy
I’m have cheated on so many games before during the pandemic in some games in roblox, I was a kid and was tilted on hackers constantly ruining my game because the anti cheat was bad on the game, well I was angry and saw my friend use cheats to get a higher level on another game so I downloaded them. I was high ranked on the game reaching level 500 but my skill and aim disappeared when I turned it off. It was fun but laggy and boring at the same time.
Cheats is fun but it gets boring fast. All the advantages u get are much smaller than the many disadvantages u get not having much friends, getting trash talked and not getting to 1v1 them no cheats cuz I was that bad, etc. Don’t cheat cuz it is just a momentarily happiness
I cheated in Point Blank about 10 years ago when I was a young teenager and I can say, "cheaters cheat because of other cheaters" is indeed bullshit.
Firstly the game would have to be insanely riddled with cheaters in order to make that excuse work. Like at least >50% of the playerbase, and at that point you can just not play the game. It is an excuse to gather sympathy that is simply false.
The reason I did it and the reason I believe most do it is simply ego. You want to feel like one of those protagonists of wish-fulfillment anime that has some unique power that no one else has or some shit like that.
You want to be better or have some sort of power over people. I would usually very slightly cheat as to not ruin it for everyone, rarely toggling aimbot and usually only sticking to walling.
But it was satisfying to know that in EVERY enemy trash-talking situation, you had the power to just toggle and absolutely embarrass whoever was being an ass and literally never feel defeated. Sticking it to toxic players was my biggest catharsis, but I also won't try to gather sympathy and admit that I also did very much wanted that power trip over normal players even if just slight.
I would never full rage hack when facing a toxic enemy because people accept their defeat after faced with that. Instead, I'd ramp up my cheats just enough to make it believable I was just better after the trash talk, because that's what made them livid and what I was after. I would do my best to make them feel like they have hope for victory only to crush it.
I felt good after teammates praised me for my "gamesense" after I comm'd their positions I knew only because of wall hacking.
I think that exact power trip is what caters to cheaters, ultimately it stems from not only immaturity but inferiority complex.
Btw I was 13 when I did this, now 23, haven't cheated in any game since except poker lmao so don't come after me, just tryna shed some light from my perspective as someone who cheated in fps, I also apologize for any possible English mistakes
You'd think a company making on average 100million a month count get a solution.
the guy that starts spinning and says : i only cheat because u do as well, like he didn't use legit until that point and still managed to get shit on
I think at this point it is just too profitable for it to ever be fully killed.
Cheating in online games will never stop. It's an enteral battle between developers and hackers.
that nose ring is worse than all the hackers combined
"Once a cheater, always a cheater. I don't think it's possible to turn that shit off"
I've literally given up on CS 2 already. I play it now to waste time, it's not fun because every few games you run into a troll, smurf, or hacker or all 3.
ive played csgo since 2015, at about 2018-2019 cheating was an every game issue. i ended up getting my own cheats. can’t beat them. join them. i become one aswell and eventually lost my account i had since 2015, i wish i never started cheating. but more than that i wish valve didn’t let cheating in csgo get so bad, i have many regrets. i no longer cheat. but to this day i have a lot of regret for losing my old main account that i’ll never be able to get back. all my og old medals etc, after a big break i’m back, many many regrets. much sadness.
I also see "farm cheaters" nowadays who are cheating in a way that they wouldn't be a "good" player, but still be considered actively playing. They slowly turn to you, and always shoot your chest.
Ngl “i cheat because of other people cheats” reminds me of my friend cheating back when csgo is free.
Back then im le and his a f2p player, he said to me that he cheats just so they can counteract agains other cheats but as times goes by he cheats more and more to the point that he accuses good player from our team sometimes as cheating. Heck, he even asked me if i cheat when he already knows i have like a 1.4k hours in csgo at that time.
Which is why i dont think that phrase is bs, I genuinely think that some people just want to be a hero but turns to out be the villain in the end.
Cheaters should be forced to eat Carolina reaper peppers every day for a week. That'll teach em. 🗿
They cheat because they're weakminded and insecure. Cheaters tend to have low-selfesteem and poor social skills. There's a ton of literature on this topic.
"Everyone steals" the mantra that every thief uses to justify their horse shit
AI is either going to make cheats easily detected, or make cheats impossible to detect.
Probably should have linked sparkles video in your description considering you use it as the basis for your video
"I started cheating because of cheaters", it's like I started robbing because robbers, I started murdering because of murderers, I started meth because of druggers
As someone who has considered getting cheats (never did it though, mostly because I don't want to lose my account), I will say that at least at the higher levels, people might just want to cheat because they want just that *slight* edge. Like, I was never going to aimbot. Cause i don't need it. But the major factor that made me consider it is that i know it would be possible to have cheats that highlight someone only when they are actually on your screen. And as someone who often loses a fight purely because I have trouble distinguishing people from the background sometimes, that's very tempting.
As somone who’s has been cheating in CS2 I have not been detected and it’s quite easy to get into.
90% of people are cheating in CSGO and CS2. probably 75% of people in first person shooters have cheated in more than one game.
its pretty simple - hurt people hurt people. some people have problems in their personal lives and ruin other peoples' days with cheats as a way of feeling better about themselves
Time is precious to everyone, and people like to spend that time enjoying what they love. These cheaters are taking away time from people that might not have much of it anymore, and it's enfuriating to know that Valve were doing little to nothing to combat it on CS:GO and that it might even be the same going forward. Pathetic.
You need to know one thing, such kiddies just sit in their basement, writing cheats for months, no friends, no other hobbies, just cheats to feel included and to draw attention.
They could go to the gym, do some sports, maybe code something useful but no, they need attention...
-writing cheats for months- paying $20 a month
Cheating isn’t about them winning. It is about you losing.
I played a CS:GO deathmatch where I would demolish the other team but the suddenly one of the guys who had 0/0/20 just started to make headshot after headshot through walls and everything and he ended up winning... I spectated him after he made 5 headshots in a row and his crossair was jumping from head to head and all he did was running and shooting never stopping and still made 1 shot / 1 headshot with awp
I remember so much in ROS, If you can't beat em.
I'm fascinated that there are actually people who are still justifying cheaters just because...
There are no excuse for cheating... That does gain unfair advantage somewhat in an online game (you could cheat on a single player but once you show it up to the world and tell me that that's legit, then gotta feel sorry for you and will wait for the "Im sorry, I won't cheat again" if you get caught)
It really won't make you good at the game, because you will heavily rely on it esp if the enemy gets better as you climb, And they'll be delusional that those cheats are their legit skills, they would even get angrier if they got beaten by a better non-cheater player whining that it's unfair etc etc.
First of all, there are no excuses but reasons why they cheat. The most common is that because it is fun. Simple as that. Also cheating can really improve you as a legit player and I noticed that myself as well.
Cheating is about mental health problem. Cheaters supposted to do bad behaviors cause of feeling good for a moment to themselfes :_(. They need some help.
The only good online cheats are ones that flag cheaters.
The worst thing about cheating is the psychological impact on the playerbase. It creates an atmosphere of paranoia and INNOCENT good players get accused of cheating.
If you are not a well-established LAN celebrity, but you are good at the game - you WILL 100% get hackusations thrown at you.
Look at Ropz, he was an unknown name and a great talent. He was accused of cheating BY EVEN PROS just because no one knew him. He had to participate in LAN to prove he's legit.
This paranoia is annoying and even ruins your motivation to keep playing. If you're not a streamer or a LAN pro, you're fucked and everyone thinks you cheat.
Thanks a lot cheaters, you're the reason why legit competitive players get fucked over.