No, this doesn't mean the ship is good. But like all ships, it can be made to work if played correctly. Also since a lot of people have been asking for it for ages, like years, I have gotten a "P.O. Box", or more like one of my friends who doesn't give a shit is willing to accept packages on my behalf. twitter.com/flamuchz/status/1301950414422761475 Yay!
Omaha is my favourite ship. It's a shit ship for those that don't know how to play it well. It's a balanced ship. Not OP. Not UP. Expert marksman is a stupid skill to take in a ship that has guns all round. Expert loader is a stupid skill to take in a ship that reloads as fast as the Omaha. You were a bit too passive at the start of the game, sailing round in the spawn area. You could have pushed further north at the start whilst still preserving your ship. In that way you could have supported the northern flank better. But apart from that, you played well in this battle. Omaha excels at DD hunting. Omaha is also great at citadelling broadside cruisers with AP at less than 10.5 kms range. And it's good at whitling down non Russian and non Giulio Cesare BB's.
I was the guy asking for this game. After seeing this match on twitch I became less potato and started playing much more safe. Now I don't get oneshotted by battleships anymore and I'm fucking happy, thanks flamu
Fake news! Flamu is actually toxic and the anti-christ! Don't you read reddit? :D On a side note you will probably do great in the future because you recognize that you are doing something wrong and you actively seek out advice. 👍
Confession: Omaha is my favorite ship in the entire game. It is my most played ship, the ship I go to when I need to untilt myself, and the ship with one of my best win rates (59%). My average damage is not good (31k), but in fairness it was my first tier 5 ship and... I'm not really that good of a player overall. Still, for some reason the Omaha just clicks with me. All that said, I basically agree with Flamu here. I tend to play more aggressively than he does in this ship, and as a result I tend to die more often. I think I'll try the more cautious playstyle and see if I can improve in this ship further. The B hull is absolutely superior to the C hull, and going with C hull is a mistake I see a lot of people make. The extra AA just isn't worth losing two guns and two torpedo launchers. I find the torpedoes in this ship highly situational due to their short range, but when the situation is right, they're very handy. One key difference of the Omaha is, as Flamu says, the gun arrangement. Having guns in casemate like that means that turning doesn't limit your firepower nearly as much as with other ships, and in fact brings fully loaded guns to bear while removing guns that are reloading. I actually think this may be the reason the ship clicks so well with me: I can maneuver to dodge shells and still keep firing. I love this ship. It has obvious weaknesses, such as exploding to a stiff breeze, but played right this ship can absolutely carry a game. It's probably the only ship in the game that I'm capable of carrying games with any consistency, and that's why I love it.
Omaha is a good ship that can provide many hours of fun! Her bad reputation just gives us Omaha lovers better matches in her because of the stigma surrounding her. 😎🇺🇸
100% this. Haven't used Omaha in over a year but it is statistically my best ship. Don't get me wrong, I died in 75% of the battles but I caused an average of 31k damage, won 53% of my battles, got Kracken atleast twice. Best game, sunk 6 ships, caused 116k damage, 2,253 exp. I consider myself an average skill player (usually in the top half of my team but nearer the middle)
Only suckers pick fair fights! When you're behind an island and shoot the enemy who's crying back in chat, it means you've outplayed them, Sun-Tzu style!
This right here, only idiots in wows think about fairness for enemy team, your job is to make the fight as unfair as possible. Invisi-firing and island camping is the best way to do that.
I'm sure it's the same guys who claim you being a pussy for not rushing him that are the same who are playing the BB at the back and calls the enemy who gets triggered and comes rushing a "noob". Being outplayed has little to do with bravery, but more with playing a ship to it's strength :)
Omaha, always brings out a tear in my eye. Was my first T5 ship, first game I played I ended up against Hoods and gneisenaus. Managed to break 100k for the first time and in tier 7 at that. In total I dealt 143k dmg the first time i got to meet the bigboys!
I got the Marblehead years ago after the convention in Boston. still one of my most run ships. A little different from the stock omaha, but fun even now to play.
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 the AA is less in the marblehead. Sometimes those torp planes make me go in circles, especially if there are two CVs and they decide, lets get the marblehead. The torps are slower, but longer range, so sometimes you get a BB that gets a few presents.
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 It has smoke and a wall of fire. still if you can use islands the play style is close, then the detection levels are higher for the omaha class
@@Tuning3434 Yeah, but it still means you might lose half your hp pool. Which is more than "limited damage", which would imply "yeah, go bow-in and you'll be fine."
@@Evangeline.F Yeah, going bow in means trusting in the opponent not being a good player. However, over 90% of the time that would be a gamble that works out. Not many players at T6 know the specific armor thicknesses of most ships they face, let alone know about overmatch.
@@wombat4191 I'd not trust them even then, because there are enough Italian cruiser players at mid tiers that have no clue how to use SAP and thus moved to shooting AP at everything.
Tell me about it. It took me days of painstakingly playing, over a year, to get to the Montana (although I do play a lot of co-op over random) and then I see these guys here in days using what I think are doubloons and it irritates me so much. Makes it easier for me so that is nice.
Same for me..... I did 120k in a game some 2 years ago..... I was divisioned with a friend in a DD who smoked me up... played it like a DD and in the end if I remember correctly, I rushed 3 battleships, torping 2 and ramming the 3rd...
Boratstromm's Mongoose yeah, it was damn fun back in the day.... and most bb captains were noobs, back in those days, ... these days, with the new ships, it’s kinda hard to materialise...
omaha is the ship that turns you from potato to hardened player. it will make you cry you might go through keyboards, you will shit yourself when you bring out ten full potential of the ship and heavy and light american cruisers are so worth it you gonna want to keep the ship in your dock for memories
Omaha is basically a floating citidel. Its like a nuclear bomb with the fuse located on the side. If an ap comes anywhere near the side of an omaha - mushroom cloud. So the how-to omaha is: Hide behind an island and wait for death.
God, Omaha was a pain to grind. Of course, this was when I was new and had even less of an idea of what I was doing. Couldn't get out of her fast enough, though, and that was before all of these XP-boosting camos and flags. I see one, and I feel nothing but pity for the poor bastard playing it.
It took me like 2 to 3 years off and on to grind up to Baltimore(Tier 8 right after the rework). Now that I played better and more regularly, I have 10 tier X ships, 6 being tech tree cruisers, though Venezia I did get Amalfi during the even and fxp skipped Brindisi.
i finished omaha grind in 1 day, it's fun, back then T6 Cleveland is a pure joy and everyone aiming for it. im liking this ship back then until i realize i already finished researching Cleveland.
I love the Omaha! If you can keep your distance, on battleships in particular, just keeping them within firing range, you can rain despair and most times dodge incoming shells.
Omaha is my favorite appetizer when I play T5-T6 battleships. But this is also essentially a guide to how to Pensacola and US light cruiser. Thank you!
To me this video is what makes Flamu the best WoWS streamer. Sure there are people who are better at the game (not many, but some), but none that can play very well and explain the reasons for their actions (in an easy to understand way)... all at the same time.
Videos like this on several other crap ships new players must endure would probably be a great idea tbh. Even as an experienced player its fun to watch :-)
Even if you play with bad ships, the fundamentals can carry you a long way! Good thing about Omaha and her sisters is that, even if they´re not that good, they´re fun to play.
When I went back to replay the Omaha in order to get the Dallas after the US cruiser line split, I had some really good games. What a difference it makes once you have some better concept of the game.
Is it bad that I actually kind of like the Omaha? Even in tier 7 matches, I can deal 50-100k fairly easily. I provide support to the team from a distance since the guns do fire basically straight into the sky which is perfect for islands. Furthermore, I only ever point my bow straight at the enemy or the stern straight at the enemy. Never show your broadside and it works most of the time. Facing straight at your opponent still gives u 5 guns to shoot at the target.
Exactly what i was experiencing lately. Just never show your sides and this ship is hard to hit. On its tier its fast and agile. And you can use 5 guns with 7 sec reload and it sets fires very well. I think i got 1 000 000 of potential damage on it yesterday. So no, its not that bad in terms of potential to survive.
My thing about Omaha: Follow USN DD if there is one, load AP and wait for juicy broadside. Then later on, get BLAPPED from God knows where the hell from and from the wonkiest angle because hey, Omaha is the OG of being citadel'd from literally anywhere! But, if you're one of those gifted players who are blessed, load that HE, grab IFHE or DE and start farming, kiting and doing cruiser things :)
Even without having an Omaha, this is really helpful for someone like me who has always had a bad habit of taking ships like the Königsberg or Kuma way too far forwards; you even did it on my worst map (somehow I always end up stuck behind an island facing a push of at least 3 ships) :P
what is the best solution for the cruiser that you punish and it survives and gets into cover. Call the CV to drop in him camping Why, never let a cruiser survive. They can do too many things. HE DDs, burn BBs from cover and delete other cruisers sometimes.
Great vid Flamu and thanks for the upload. I enjoy playing the Omaha, always been a fan of the RL Omaha class cruisers. That said, I'm always looking for tips to play it, the Marblehead and the Murmansk better.
Thank you for this detailed tutorial on the Omaha Flamu, I hope that you do many more mid tier ships, honestly, I prefer to look at other contributors videos because I like their production style better but they concentrate on Tier VIII to X too much, this video content is very important for new players to see and learn from so that they do not get fed up of being blapped and leave the game, I am a fan now, keep it going.
Despised this ship when I first played it. Going back to it now recently I actually really enjoy playing it if you use it correctly. Long range guns with better than average ballistics for tier 5. Fast reload on very high fire chance guns that are casemate mounted so good for continuous fire while staying on the move. My go to ship for if I need to farm fire ribbons.
Ahhh, the Omaha, the ship that I got one shotted in every randoms I tried to play in(btw I was always also first to be killed) and ultimately scarred me to the point that I completely stopped playing randoms for about 8 monthes
Squishy cruisers and cruiser oriented combat missions were the reason for me to do pretty much the same. I still find cruisers to be akward to play, but co-op is far more forgiving most of the time so it doesn't bother me as much. I may be a PvE wuss, but at least I am having fun again.
Anyone saying "you shouldn't have parties during COVID!" without knowing the situation in any given country other than the USA really shows how blind they are to ANYWHERE outside of the USA.
Well, that is why for CAs its "DO DAMAGE, while not taken damage." If your not doing damage, or re-positioning to be able to do damage, then the fact you hid behind your favorite waifu island and didn't take damage still makes you a potato.
I *like* Omaha. I managed to get enough xp to elite it in about 6 battles. It always has a gun loaded and pointing vaguely towards whatever you want to shoot, turns well, and is fairly fast.
Used to use Omaha to play games with only Tier 7 ships, starting the game with insults from the same team, but finishing the game with the score to be number one on the team by facing some forward, some backwards. Be careful of the sides in the most If you understand and have a good chance It is a boat that cannot be careless.
I think Omaha can be made to work but it's probably the weakest t5 cruiser (at least Emerald gets heal + smoke and great torps). Island camping is pretty fun in this ship tho
Good vid. One big problem for new Omaha players is the ship they just came out of. The Omaha is much faster and less durable (for its tier) than the St Louis. (I don't think players stay at the Phoenix long and accuracy of BB Phoenix faces gives a false security.) After watching what other American cruiser do wrong in their Omahas & Pensacolas while shooting from a BB, I finally figured out how to play my Omaha and Pensacola better. Is the Omaha good. No, buts its how a player uses it that makes it good.
I hated every second of grinding past the Omaha but it did make me a better cruiser player. And yeah when you get people whinging about hiding it's just cause they are mad you wont give them the blap potential.
I finished Omaha and got the t6 Cleveland right before the US CL/CA split. Pensacola was painful but at least i got a free t8 and didn’t have to grind both trees.
I think my main issue initially with this ship, other than it's ability to get clapped so quickly, was that when I unlocked it I was like "oooh fucking torpedos awesome!!". With the torp range being so small I was trying to push close to enemies so I could get some torps off but I was getting blapped so hard lol. I'm finally getting enough exp for it to where I can upgrade to the other 2 lines of cruisers at tier VI, I'm just not sure which cruiser line to go with or what the advantages are with each.
Omaha teach you to dodge shells going in reverse and keep all six of your front guns on target at all times and to stay at max distance to minimize shells hitting you from bbs
I have the Marblehead, one of my oldest ships, and it’s still one of my favourites, just use it as a long range HE spammer. Facing bow on also works really well
With Omaha, i rush to front until i see ships in 17 - 18 km, then i show them my ass and start spamming HE. That's all. Don't broadside never ever. Its a kiting ship (because island cover is irrelevant when you play against 3 dd's and 2 CV's). Fast, reactive, has enough guns even when bowing. I don't like cruisers, but this one was working with my temperament very well: you fake charge into enemies and then run from them while setting on fire everything. And if you get lucky to get some supportive bb next to you then it turns into fun game.
i remembered a while ago, idk how but i got omaha without ever grinding the first few ships of the line, then by some miracle, she became a decent ship as long as you didnt broadside like a dumb fuck and literally ran like the plague and set people on fire while they tried shooting at you
Do you think they will fix the Omaha's hull choices? Like B is superior to C. They should probably do something where you can keep your main turrets and lose say all your torpedoes to get the AA. Then it would be a bit more useful to go for C.
hey Flamu, any chance you could do a video on the new Kotovsky Kirov replacement? Would be interested in your opinion, it feels quite powerful for a t5 cruiser, but I'd like to hear what you have to say on it.
U know some map favor some ship, sometimes 5-7 games in a row u got a bad map for your ship and u get deleted easily and start crying on the forum that your new ship is trash. Most ship are balanced with the same tier in a way.. it can take up to 100 games to understand your ship, some ship are just easier to play so you tend to think they are op. For example took me around 150 games to understand that I love izumo and most of the people skip her with free XP because everyone say that it's trash because they just don't read and try everything to make it work because it's a complex ship. never assume a ship is bad right away, take your time and challenge yourself to make it work. It's going to greatly enhance your experience in wow.
Agree C hull is trash, armor is trash, citadel is huge. Still, I actually like the Omaha. It is one of the few American cruisers with torps, and it always has a few guns to bear in any direction. It also shoots pretty quickly, has a lot of guns, has decent range, and can dodge a lot of shots.
Well, now we only have to wait for some random dude make a thread on the forums explaining why Flamu's "how to Omaha" is wrong, like on the Dunkerque thing.
Pretty sure that you lose 2 turrets, but a couple of remaining turrets gets an extra gun... idk if having dual guns is better or not... though. But I could be thinking of another ship... Haven't owned omha in years.
No, this doesn't mean the ship is good. But like all ships, it can be made to work if played correctly. Also since a lot of people have been asking for it for ages, like years, I have gotten a "P.O. Box", or more like one of my friends who doesn't give a shit is willing to accept packages on my behalf.
twitter.com/flamuchz/status/1301950414422761475
Yay!
False Advertising! The Omaha is like that of the Oberth-Class from Star Trek when it comes to it's natural state...
...exploding 😂
Can you make a vid about the buffalo pls.... I cant really get it to work.... Des moines and baltimore are so different to it
Omaha is an ok ship. It prepares you for what comes next - the Dallas and Helena, teaches the HE spamming gameplay, but it also has torps!
Omaha is my favourite ship.
It's a shit ship for those that don't know how to play it well. It's a balanced ship. Not OP. Not UP.
Expert marksman is a stupid skill to take in a ship that has guns all round.
Expert loader is a stupid skill to take in a ship that reloads as fast as the Omaha.
You were a bit too passive at the start of the game, sailing round in the spawn area. You could have pushed further north at the start whilst still preserving your ship. In that way you could have supported the northern flank better. But apart from that, you played well in this battle.
Omaha excels at DD hunting. Omaha is also great at citadelling broadside cruisers with AP at less than 10.5 kms range. And it's good at whitling down non Russian and non Giulio Cesare BB's.
@@lint8391 you probably didn't realize but the guy was asking for US heavy cruiser advice, not just the Omaha.
The captain skills are for the future
"We've been saving our fighters for now because AP bombers are a huge threat"
*Fighter destroyed*
"Yes very useful indeed, Said no one ever."
-Flolo
The fighters were great until the ate a flak cloud from the Hatsuharu's dual purpose guns.
mmm yes that devastating tier 5 DD AA
@@weeaboobarko whats more of a insult is that that was Japanese aa
I was the guy asking for this game. After seeing this match on twitch I became less potato and started playing much more safe. Now I don't get oneshotted by battleships anymore and I'm fucking happy, thanks flamu
Good luck and fair seas!
I had the same issue when I went from tier 4 to tier 5 for the first time, it was the furutaka that taught me to play safer
Fake news! Flamu is actually toxic and the anti-christ! Don't you read reddit? :D
On a side note you will probably do great in the future because you recognize that you are doing something wrong and you actively seek out advice. 👍
I asked an enemy Atlanta to fight like a man in a New Orleans. I killed him after he shot me first
Same here
How to Omaha: Sail straight into cap and get deleted by the first salvo fired at you.
*proceeds to get 90k dmg anyway*
ok Flolo
Confession: Omaha is my favorite ship in the entire game. It is my most played ship, the ship I go to when I need to untilt myself, and the ship with one of my best win rates (59%). My average damage is not good (31k), but in fairness it was my first tier 5 ship and... I'm not really that good of a player overall. Still, for some reason the Omaha just clicks with me.
All that said, I basically agree with Flamu here. I tend to play more aggressively than he does in this ship, and as a result I tend to die more often. I think I'll try the more cautious playstyle and see if I can improve in this ship further. The B hull is absolutely superior to the C hull, and going with C hull is a mistake I see a lot of people make. The extra AA just isn't worth losing two guns and two torpedo launchers. I find the torpedoes in this ship highly situational due to their short range, but when the situation is right, they're very handy.
One key difference of the Omaha is, as Flamu says, the gun arrangement. Having guns in casemate like that means that turning doesn't limit your firepower nearly as much as with other ships, and in fact brings fully loaded guns to bear while removing guns that are reloading. I actually think this may be the reason the ship clicks so well with me: I can maneuver to dodge shells and still keep firing.
I love this ship. It has obvious weaknesses, such as exploding to a stiff breeze, but played right this ship can absolutely carry a game. It's probably the only ship in the game that I'm capable of carrying games with any consistency, and that's why I love it.
Omaha is a good ship that can provide many hours of fun! Her bad reputation just gives us Omaha lovers better matches in her because of the stigma surrounding her. 😎🇺🇸
Guess you'd also like Schors, then.
100% this. Haven't used Omaha in over a year but it is statistically my best ship. Don't get me wrong, I died in 75% of the battles but I caused an average of 31k damage, won 53% of my battles, got Kracken atleast twice. Best game, sunk 6 ships, caused 116k damage, 2,253 exp. I consider myself an average skill player (usually in the top half of my team but nearer the middle)
Are you Peyton Manning?
@@kaalen24 Well, being a native Hoosier, I AM a big Colts and Peyton fan, but alas, no.
Only suckers pick fair fights!
When you're behind an island and shoot the enemy who's crying back in chat, it means you've outplayed them, Sun-Tzu style!
This right here, only idiots in wows think about fairness for enemy team, your job is to make the fight as unfair as possible. Invisi-firing and island camping is the best way to do that.
That means they are potatoes. Playing but using less brain power.
I'm sure it's the same guys who claim you being a pussy for not rushing him that are the same who are playing the BB at the back and calls the enemy who gets triggered and comes rushing a "noob".
Being outplayed has little to do with bravery, but more with playing a ship to it's strength :)
@@andreaspedersen3952 and the bb players who think shooting from behind island is "historically inaccurate" 😅
There's a reason why islands are there of course
Omaha, always brings out a tear in my eye. Was my first T5 ship, first game I played I ended up against Hoods and gneisenaus. Managed to break 100k for the first time and in tier 7 at that. In total I dealt 143k dmg the first time i got to meet the bigboys!
I got the Marblehead years ago after the convention in Boston. still one of my most run ships. A little different from the stock omaha, but fun even now to play.
I remember playing this when the game first released and Omaha was not power crept to hell. Had a lot of fun open water gun boating and setting fires.
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 the AA is less in the marblehead. Sometimes those torp planes make me go in circles, especially if there are two CVs and they decide, lets get the marblehead. The torps are slower, but longer range, so sometimes you get a BB that gets a few presents.
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 I like to think Hard Core Cruising in a tinker box wrapped around a citadel.
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 It has smoke and a wall of fire. still if you can use islands the play style is close, then the detection levels are higher for the omaha class
Caveat on Trento: It can do limited damage if you go bow-in... unless it loads AP and overmatches the bow and citadels the crap out of the Omaha.
@@cemborembo yes.
@@cemborembo Trento is T6. Plus Hawkins at T5 has 190mm which can also overmatch Omaha.
@@Tuning3434 Yeah, but it still means you might lose half your hp pool. Which is more than "limited damage", which would imply "yeah, go bow-in and you'll be fine."
@@Evangeline.F Yeah, going bow in means trusting in the opponent not being a good player. However, over 90% of the time that would be a gamble that works out. Not many players at T6 know the specific armor thicknesses of most ships they face, let alone know about overmatch.
@@wombat4191 I'd not trust them even then, because there are enough Italian cruiser players at mid tiers that have no clue how to use SAP and thus moved to shooting AP at everything.
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This. T10 doesn’t necessarily mean experienced players anymore. It never was exclusively, but nowadays more than it ever has.
Tell me about it. It took me days of painstakingly playing, over a year, to get to the Montana (although I do play a lot of co-op over random) and then I see these guys here in days using what I think are doubloons and it irritates me so much. Makes it easier for me so that is nice.
"Lets go lose a match" thats me in any DD when I see carrier, 3 radars and Smolensk on the enemy side.
I basically resolve myself to fleet screening and AA ambushes with US DDs at that point.
my best Omaha game was 131k.......i think i caught a few bbs out with torps
Same for me..... I did 120k in a game some 2 years ago..... I was divisioned with a friend in a DD who smoked me up... played it like a DD and in the end if I remember correctly, I rushed 3 battleships, torping 2 and ramming the 3rd...
Boratstromm's Mongoose yeah, it was damn fun back in the day.... and most bb captains were noobs, back in those days, ... these days, with the new ships, it’s kinda hard to materialise...
omaha is the ship that turns you from potato to hardened player. it will make you cry you might go through keyboards, you will shit yourself when you bring out ten full potential of the ship and heavy and light american cruisers are so worth it you gonna want to keep the ship in your dock for memories
Omaha is basically a floating citidel. Its like a nuclear bomb with the fuse located on the side. If an ap comes anywhere near the side of an omaha - mushroom cloud. So the how-to omaha is: Hide behind an island and wait for death.
God, Omaha was a pain to grind. Of course, this was when I was new and had even less of an idea of what I was doing. Couldn't get out of her fast enough, though, and that was before all of these XP-boosting camos and flags. I see one, and I feel nothing but pity for the poor bastard playing it.
I actually liked it?? it was citadel fiesta since 152 at low tier is like 306mm guns at T9
It took me like 2 to 3 years off and on to grind up to Baltimore(Tier 8 right after the rework). Now that I played better and more regularly, I have 10 tier X ships, 6 being tech tree cruisers, though Venezia I did get Amalfi during the even and fxp skipped Brindisi.
i finished omaha grind in 1 day, it's fun, back then T6 Cleveland is a pure joy and everyone aiming for it.
im liking this ship back then until i realize i already finished researching Cleveland.
I love the Omaha! If you can keep your distance, on battleships in particular, just keeping them within firing range, you can rain despair and most times dodge incoming shells.
Omaha is my favorite appetizer when I play T5-T6 battleships. But this is also essentially a guide to how to Pensacola and US light cruiser. Thank you!
To me this video is what makes Flamu the best WoWS streamer. Sure there are people who are better at the game (not many, but some), but none that can play very well and explain the reasons for their actions (in an easy to understand way)... all at the same time.
Nice masterclass - thanks Flamu. I always enjoy when you give continuous coaching commentary - very valuable.
Thank you for making this guide Flamu! Been looking for something like this for a while.
Videos like this on several other crap ships new players must endure would probably be a great idea tbh.
Even as an experienced player its fun to watch :-)
Even if you play with bad ships, the fundamentals can carry you a long way!
Good thing about Omaha and her sisters is that, even if they´re not that good, they´re fun to play.
"What am I doing wrong?"
Me: playing the Omaha?
Pilote: Airbone
Also Pilote: Destroyed
Thank you so much! Concrete example of how patience can pay off. Exactly what I need to see to improve with mid tier cruisers.
If you're getting citadelled in Omaha, be sure to angle so they can citadel you through the bow lol
Omaha has a lot of fundamental issues. Namely it exists.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Love this ship in legends and the fact that the match making is a +1 -1 just makes playing this ship so lovely
I’ve struggled with my cruiser game in Tier 5. This advice is actually really helpful with all cruisers in the game imo. I appreciate the video.
When I went back to replay the Omaha in order to get the Dallas after the US cruiser line split, I had some really good games. What a difference it makes once you have some better concept of the game.
Is it bad that I actually kind of like the Omaha? Even in tier 7 matches, I can deal 50-100k fairly easily. I provide support to the team from a distance since the guns do fire basically straight into the sky which is perfect for islands. Furthermore, I only ever point my bow straight at the enemy or the stern straight at the enemy. Never show your broadside and it works most of the time. Facing straight at your opponent still gives u 5 guns to shoot at the target.
Not a bad ship. Just don't get hit.
That´s me with Marblehead. Honestly I do not regret getting the Marblehead and Mikoyan. Even if they have paper armor, they´re fun to play.
That's me with the Murmansk
A bit like my Marblehead. Surprising what you can achieve with a tin can at times
Exactly what i was experiencing lately. Just never show your sides and this ship is hard to hit. On its tier its fast and agile. And you can use 5 guns with 7 sec reload and it sets fires very well. I think i got 1 000 000 of potential damage on it yesterday. So no, its not that bad in terms of potential to survive.
That was beautiful to watch. I've always had a soft spot for the Omaha for some reason.
I love the Omaha, just don’t get hit.
Had really good experiences kiting with it.
My thing about Omaha: Follow USN DD if there is one, load AP and wait for juicy broadside. Then later on, get BLAPPED from God knows where the hell from and from the wonkiest angle because hey, Omaha is the OG of being citadel'd from literally anywhere! But, if you're one of those gifted players who are blessed, load that HE, grab IFHE or DE and start farming, kiting and doing cruiser things :)
Even without having an Omaha, this is really helpful for someone like me who has always had a bad habit of taking ships like the Königsberg or Kuma way too far forwards; you even did it on my worst map (somehow I always end up stuck behind an island facing a push of at least 3 ships) :P
I love shooting Omaha in game. My favorite target in a battleship. Best way to play Omaha is at range, constantly changing speed and direction.
what is the best solution for the cruiser that you punish and it survives and gets into cover. Call the CV to drop in him camping
Why, never let a cruiser survive. They can do too many things. HE DDs, burn BBs from cover and delete other cruisers sometimes.
Great vid Flamu and thanks for the upload. I enjoy playing the Omaha, always been a fan of the RL Omaha class cruisers. That said, I'm always looking for tips to play it, the Marblehead and the Murmansk better.
16:03 When I want to say this I congratulate the enemy for being annoying, which a lot appreciated.
Thank you for this detailed tutorial on the Omaha Flamu, I hope that you do many more mid tier ships, honestly, I prefer to look at other contributors videos because I like their production style better but they concentrate on Tier VIII to X too much, this video content is very important for new players to see and learn from so that they do not get fed up of being blapped and leave the game, I am a fan now, keep it going.
Brings fond memories, from back when Murmansk was an OP ship :D
I had fun in Omaha, but 4.5 years ago the meta was vastly different.
Despised this ship when I first played it. Going back to it now recently I actually really enjoy playing it if you use it correctly. Long range guns with better than average ballistics for tier 5. Fast reload on very high fire chance guns that are casemate mounted so good for continuous fire while staying on the move. My go to ship for if I need to farm fire ribbons.
How much i liked this ship back in the day.. She saw t3 ships though, there was great fun, in maps like Solomon islands
I really engoy seeing you play ships like Omata and Huanghe for example. Is very informative for me!
Well done @Flamu - so I’ve been really struggling in my Krazny Krym lately...😆
Ahhh, the Omaha, the ship that I got one shotted in every randoms I tried to play in(btw I was always also first to be killed) and ultimately scarred me to the point that I completely stopped playing randoms for about 8 monthes
Squishy cruisers and cruiser oriented combat missions were the reason for me to do pretty much the same.
I still find cruisers to be akward to play, but co-op is far more forgiving most of the time so it doesn't bother me as much.
I may be a PvE wuss, but at least I am having fun again.
Anyone saying "you shouldn't have parties during COVID!" without knowing the situation in any given country other than the USA really shows how blind they are to ANYWHERE outside of the USA.
You don't need to change to torpedos, just look at the smoke coming out of the chimney.
16:08 until every ships camping and no one gather intels, lol
Well, that is why for CAs its "DO DAMAGE, while not taken damage." If your not doing damage, or re-positioning to be able to do damage, then the fact you hid behind your favorite waifu island and didn't take damage still makes you a potato.
@@nicolivoldkif9096 you know that I write this as a joke, right? Why so serious?
I *like* Omaha. I managed to get enough xp to elite it in about 6 battles. It always has a gun loaded and pointing vaguely towards whatever you want to shoot, turns well, and is fairly fast.
Used to use Omaha to play games with only Tier 7 ships, starting the game with insults from the same team, but finishing the game with the score to be number one on the team by facing some forward, some backwards. Be careful of the sides in the most If you understand and have a good chance It is a boat that cannot be careless.
this game was basically best case scenerio for omaha, plenty of island cover and only 2 BB game
I think Omaha can be made to work but it's probably the weakest t5 cruiser (at least Emerald gets heal + smoke and great torps).
Island camping is pretty fun in this ship tho
Good vid. One big problem for new Omaha players is the ship they just came out of. The Omaha is much faster and less durable (for its tier) than the St Louis. (I don't think players stay at the Phoenix long and accuracy of BB Phoenix faces gives a false security.) After watching what other American cruiser do wrong in their Omahas & Pensacolas while shooting from a BB, I finally figured out how to play my Omaha and Pensacola better.
Is the Omaha good. No, buts its how a player uses it that makes it good.
I hated every second of grinding past the Omaha but it did make me a better cruiser player. And yeah when you get people whinging about hiding it's just cause they are mad you wont give them the blap potential.
I'm so glad I grinded through the omaha back in late 2015/early 2016, I wouldn't like to do it again now!
You can carry with any ship © Flamu. Good luck with Myogi and Mikasa
As I'd like to call it, the omaha is a mini atlanta since it can spam fires easily
If you have an IFHE captain just waiting around, put him in Omaha and suddenly she's one of the best T5 damage farmer :D
Also, Omaha dance is a thing.
I loved seeing the shells flying and me unknowingly dodging incoming fire
@andy Carr also, Omaha is the 2nd fastest t5 ca, it's usually easier to dodge anything thrown at you if kept at near max range.
@andy Carr Yah, Marblehead's range is poor.
Onlything better would be the Murmansk, with that spotterplane.
*Laughs in Oktobrskaya Revolutsiya*
Who needs Omaha when you can get the Murmansk....
I finished Omaha and got the t6 Cleveland right before the US CL/CA split. Pensacola was painful but at least i got a free t8 and didn’t have to grind both trees.
I think my main issue initially with this ship, other than it's ability to get clapped so quickly, was that when I unlocked it I was like "oooh fucking torpedos awesome!!". With the torp range being so small I was trying to push close to enemies so I could get some torps off but I was getting blapped so hard lol. I'm finally getting enough exp for it to where I can upgrade to the other 2 lines of cruisers at tier VI, I'm just not sure which cruiser line to go with or what the advantages are with each.
Omaha teach you to dodge shells going in reverse and keep all six of your front guns on target at all times and to stay at max distance to minimize shells hitting you from bbs
I have the Marblehead, one of my oldest ships, and it’s still one of my favourites, just use it as a long range HE spammer. Facing bow on also works really well
at last. the real flamu
8:05 practically you are a tier V Ibuki: everyone and his mother is like...
MMMMMHHHH... BANAAANAAAA! "
With Omaha, i rush to front until i see ships in 17 - 18 km, then i show them my ass and start spamming HE. That's all. Don't broadside never ever. Its a kiting ship (because island cover is irrelevant when you play against 3 dd's and 2 CV's). Fast, reactive, has enough guns even when bowing. I don't like cruisers, but this one was working with my temperament very well: you fake charge into enemies and then run from them while setting on fire everything. And if you get lucky to get some supportive bb next to you then it turns into fun game.
I have the record damage of 252k in mumansk which is basically a Russian Omaha. When played properly this ship is a beast...
Avoid confrontation, play sneeky breeky.
If I gave him an old bathtub and a plank for a oar, he would still come out with high damage or win, making it look so easy, now that takes skill.
I've always really liked this ship. I'd say I had above average success with it.
Fun if you don't go full potato or get blapped unexpectedly.
My most played ship in wowL. Love it
Omaha haha thats been a long time!! Was so happy when I got Cleveland after this and man was it good
4 planes shot down? I'm calling hax!
US navy 1940 releaves halsey of his command and puts in flamu.
US navy 2020 still in pearl habour, shooting over islands
I'm fundamentally ---- at the game. Awesome.
You know you are watching too much US politics when you read the title twice, and read it as "How to Obama".
Do you like being primary target? get in an Omaha!
i remembered a while ago, idk how but i got omaha without ever grinding the first few ships of the line, then by some miracle, she became a decent ship as long as you didnt broadside like a dumb fuck and literally ran like the plague and set people on fire while they tried shooting at you
cant wait to see more zaos and henris camp behind an island \o/
Do you think they will fix the Omaha's hull choices? Like B is superior to C. They should probably do something where you can keep your main turrets and lose say all your torpedoes to get the AA. Then it would be a bit more useful to go for C.
Tue best to grind in omaha is shoot 1 by 1 the cannons and then press reverse and then shoot tue cannon 1 by 1 and then accelerate your ship
Now your just showing off! :)
so, how to play cruiser properly is to do damage without taking any damage, thanks for the advise
Any ship without a heal in general.
@@jaywerner8415 Honestly, any ship in general. XD
Playing Omaha as a seal cluber is like tying one hand behind your back and wearing an eye patch. I think it’s a fair fight.
hey Flamu, any chance you could do a video on the new Kotovsky Kirov replacement? Would be interested in your opinion, it feels quite powerful for a t5 cruiser, but I'd like to hear what you have to say on it.
I remember that I once use Gneisenau and killed Omaha in a single salvo at the start of the battle with spotter planes lol
Instant 23,100 damage
I liked Omaha but this was in the early days of wows. Back when mm was so drunk that my tier 6 Cleveland was put against tier 9
Omaha has a C-hull???
I at least don't remember having to grind 2 hull upgrades.
I'll consider myself lucky.
Finally, I have a reason not to feel guilty playing Moskva kiting plus cross-fire and getting scolded for cAMpInG
Flamu could you make a vid sharing your thoughts on the new asymmetrical battle game mode? Much appreciated
U know some map favor some ship, sometimes 5-7 games in a row u got a bad map for your ship and u get deleted easily and start crying on the forum that your new ship is trash. Most ship are balanced with the same tier in a way.. it can take up to 100 games to understand your ship, some ship are just easier to play so you tend to think they are op. For example took me around 150 games to understand that I love izumo and most of the people skip her with free XP because everyone say that it's trash because they just don't read and try everything to make it work because it's a complex ship. never assume a ship is bad right away, take your time and challenge yourself to make it work. It's going to greatly enhance your experience in wow.
Agree C hull is trash, armor is trash, citadel is huge. Still, I actually like the Omaha. It is one of the few American cruisers with torps, and it always has a few guns to bear in any direction. It also shoots pretty quickly, has a lot of guns, has decent range, and can dodge a lot of shots.
Well, now we only have to wait for some random dude make a thread on the forums explaining why Flamu's "how to Omaha" is wrong, like on the Dunkerque thing.
took me 1 match with 6 kills to breeze through it, not the best ship but definitely not the worst.
Playing North Carolina in Assymetrical mode,from hunting omaha its turn out im being hunted by bunch angry omaha lmao...
I miss the days back when Omaha was a reasonably tanky powerhouse.
Pretty sure that you lose 2 turrets, but a couple of remaining turrets gets an extra gun... idk if having dual guns is better or not... though.
But I could be thinking of another ship... Haven't owned omha in years.