Jamie Fenn Drops a video while you are working? 1) Run to your office 2) Lock the door 3) Set your outlook calendar to "In a meeting" 4) Enjoy 11 minutes and 28 secs of peace.
I’ve watched hundreds of tutorials on color matching and exposure, but this video is a game-changer! Your unique techniques and clear explanations finally made it all click for me. Thanks for elevating my video editing skills to perfection! 🙌
Jamie, this is- hands down- the best, easiest video I’ve seen to handle what I personally think are the two most important things to get nailed for making CZcams videos- exposure and color grading. Love this tutorial! It is immediately going to go into my workflow.
Cool! I think that’s the first time I’ve watch any colour tab vid and had a fair idea what is being said! Good job Jamie! Now to add a Colour Matching thing to the shopping list...
Thank you! I believe this was the best instruction of how to use the Video Passport Color Checker tool that I've seen. I will want to share this video with others who are getting started.
This was so informative and easy to follow. These aren't even covered in the color correction book that blackmagic make so thank you very much. You should do more Color grading tutorials.
Excellent video, especially for a beginner who doesn't necessarily understand color. The directions and the step-by-step are extremely helpful thank you so much for doing this.
I watch this video all the time just to refresh myself on how to use the color card. Some of the controls have changed but this is my go to. Thanks Jamie!
@@JamieFenn One thing I missed when watching your video was the need to turn off the pen tool in the power window after using the six primary colors and the boxes in the vector scope! I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong! Also, using Ctrl and the scroll wheel to move the clip up and down in the preview window! I won't forget!
I can't believe it took me this long to find this! I can't afford the passport but davinci supports a cheaper card that costs alot less. Thanks very much for teaching me this!
I’ve been doing this manually by eye with … variable results: I didn’t know Xrite was even a thing in DVR. Just bought Color Checker Passport for my next project. Thank you so much!
This is one of the best videos I've ran across. Not only for the Color Checker but the use of each of the functions in Color section of Davinci! Thank you for keeping it simple and straight to the point. This will be video I'll be referencing again and again until I become an expert in Davinci! You sir have a new sub!
This is pure gold. Almost nobody at the semi-professional level uses a color checker so far as I've seen so I expect this to take my videos up a notch. I imagine you would use your checker sans any colored light on your subject.
This is so clear and concise It touched on every little thing I was looking for. Most especially the last bit about the redness in the skin, which is an issue I ran into recently but didn't know how to correct. thanks bro
The thing about using 2x zoom and saturation with the color tuning in the vectorscope part of the video along with the skin tones part really added to your last tutorial :thumbs_up:, NICE.
Great Video, I don't see how any one would go wrong using your procedure of shooting and processing the color checker..... Ill be using this from now on...
This is an absolutely brilliant video. Thanks to you, I finally understand how to use the card. Thanks so much for putting so much of your time and expertise into the video for us. I’ve subscribed and will watch a lot of your videos.
Great video - as always. Much appreciate this, helps me alot. I discovered one thing I want to share here: In the section where you set the exposure-node by using the waveform scope on the three color chips. DaVinci offers a little helper, matching the red,green and blue channels much easier. You have set up the wand for the three color chips (white grey, black) and eyeball the channels with the waveform-scope. This is sometimes difficult. Now, to see it easier which channel is off, hover the mouse over the three chips. In the scope window a circle appears. In real, there are three circles - red, green and blue. Now we can see better, which color is off. High or low. If all color channels match perfectly, there will be only one cyan circle. Give it a try, for me, it makes it easier to see in which direction I have to corrects the colors. Thanks again for your work - stay creative.
Wow Jamie i just got into creating cooking videos on CZcams and I couldn't figure out why I was looking such pig-colored. There are a few videos every other year that you look back at with warmth and think "WoW, that was really something else". This is one of them.
Thanks a lot... This video have changed my way to correct colors in DR, from probably an inefficient way* to a much better and less complicated one. Understanding is in my opinion much more important than just know how to do it. Many CZcamsrs are so warried that there videos will be to long. To me it´s much more important that we that want to learn really does so. Please: continue make videos the way you did in this one: Where you in the first room have focus on our learning, not just want to view how brilliant and fast you are in correction and grading. * I've been fiddeling up and down with the W,R,G and B underneath the wheels
Thanks for the video. For those looking for the X-rite ColorChecker Passport. It's now the CaliBrite ColorChecker Passport. CaliBrite is a global partner of X-rite. I'm waiting for mine to arrive. It's late.☹
Well I had no idea about all of this so thank you for a brilliant and clear video. I’ve been struggling with skin tones and white balance for months as a novice but this gives me confidence in getting it bang on !!! Thank you
Awesome, thank you Im glad you thought so. Like I said I made a video on this a while ago but I felt like it was lacking. haha Its a great purchase. :D
Very well done. This should be the premiere video the pops up for the people that purchased the XRite Color Checker. Hell, maybe Xrite could toss a link in the box that directs people to this video :D
Ha it’s funny you say that because when I made this I was thinking “why the hell do they not have a detailed video to show you exactly how to use it. Or even a step by step manual..” but I really appreciate it and maybe one day they will see it and direct people towards it. Cheers man
Awesome allen! Keep an eye on on that vector scope after you use the xrite - the xrite can be perfect but your scene could be off. (make proper corrections after you follow the steps in this video!
Great Video! I was looking for this exact video. Your previous video about the X-rite CC passport was excellent, also. This one was more in-depth. Thanks for sharing!!!!
Jamie, that was a really good video! Easy to understand bro. I appreciate you on this. Mad skills and knowledge is what you impart and give. Thank you!
@@JamieFenn Shameful plug: Created with the latest Resolve DNX HQ 444. It will take yt an hour to process the 4K file. Its only in SD for the next hour. These are my latest Sunburst files. czcams.com/video/x-DgXCr1ub0/video.html
Great tutorial, thanks. What I don't understand, after Color Matching you still have to adjust everything, like saturation, color tones, skin tones. I expected everything should be spot on after Color Matching.
This is really helpful and looks great! But I have a question: I've been taught that adjusting exposure first is best practice before touching colors, mainly because the colors misalign when you adjust exposure afterwards. While watching the node chart build, I was wondering if it could have been finished in fewer nodes if exposure was checked first. My question is, do you feel like that ever stalls out your process in Davinci? Thanks!
I love this video. Different ways to improve the colors. And I still wonder, why the color checker is not enough to restore neutral colors? Due to possible light glares or noise? I would expect that at least it wouldn't be necessary to adjust white balance on the gray card. If I were producer of the color checker I would also add those white/gray/black stripes to the color matrix in Davinci Resolve. And I also wonder: Should I give up setting LUT on the clip itself and define source/target in color checker or set the LUT on the clip and set source/target to REC 709 in the tool?
Excellent video! What would a simple node tree structure look like if I’m using something like dehancer? White Balance - Color Checker - Dehancer? And if I wanted to use a Phantom Lut or any lut where in the tree would that go?
on 2nd node when you input ur camera source gamma, would it still work if you set your target gamma and color to a bigger col space like davinci wide gamma and davinci intermediate to give you a larger col space to work with and do ur other adjustments and then add another node at the end and do a color space tranform to rec 709 inputting davinci wide gamma and davinci intermediste and output to rec 709 gamma 2.4 just a thought
Good question, I have been wondering that myself for sometime now... I've skipped the matching portion and have gone with a colorspace transform and then used the checker to match up the chromatic chips and get proper exposure.
Great ,super clear descriptions on getting it right. Can’t wait to try this manual correction, vs auto chart correction. Can you also do a video that describes where the auto correction goes and how to manipulate it if you don’t like it’s effect. Thanks again.
Dude, this is legit. Really consise content, all killer no filler style video, thanks for making it. I'm shooting right now on a Nikon D500. It's what I've got, and provided I expose correctly (I use an Shenobi external monitor to help there), it does okay, but I'm debating on getting the color chart. Think this is the next step I should go? I feel like it's tough to get exposure and color right, and this video basically confirms what I think I already know: I gotta get one of those charts. ...right?
I would. Its been super helpful for me. "Professional" colorists say they dont use them but personally I havent been stuck in front of a computer screen coloring for 10+ years so maybe they're just mad theres a tool out there that does their job pretty well XD Yes I would get one. Link is in the description for the one I have.
@@JamieFenn that's good feedback. Honestly, just getting something that is repeatable in the process so I can remove the guess work would be pretty great. Thanks again!
Hi Jamie! Correct me if I´m wrong but I think that the white chip used for exposure has an input reflection of 90% but its IRE is actually 61 when shooting in VLog. Being that case, wouldn´t I have to set my zebras at 61%? I mean the grey chip has an input reflection of 18% and its IRE is 42. Wouldn´t it be the same logic for the white chip too? I also think that VLog clips at 80 IRE, so if I set the zebras at 90 for the white chip wouldn´t I be clipping it? Please, let me know what you think since I am new to this and I might be mixing concepts here... Great video, Thanks! :)
I don't know how but you explained everything. Every detail. Chapeau. One question, in what order should we grade? I see you did the x-rite auto color balance, then exposure/balance, then manual color balance again. (I don't think I see the pattern)
hahah well thank you. I tried to not miss any steps. As long as you his the correct exposure and get your saturation and hues in the targets you should be good to go :)
Now that Resolve 17 has the new color warper tool, it's even easier to get the primaries where they're supposed to be. With the color warper panel selected, you just click and drag directly on the spots on your video. As you watch the scope, those color peaks will move exactly as your mouse moves, up, down, left, and right. You just drag them right where they need to be. To me, it seems like a slightly better approach than using the hue vs. hue curves with the default primaries. After all, you're not really trying to tell the program, "red should be a lower hue". What you want to tell it is, "See this reddish thing here? That's supposed to _actually_ be perfect red." And in doing it this way, you're less likely to have to make multiple passes. The traditional way, as we saw, sometimes moving magenta will mess up your blue a little and you have to go back.
Hey Tom! Yea I havent tried it with the color warper yet but yea I think you are right!! Have you used the color warper yet for this? Does it work well?
@@JamieFenn Jury's still out on that. It feels intuitive to use, but the selection and manipulation isn't smooth enough. Like in this example. I used the eyedropper-drag tool to manipulate the colors, rather than clicking and dragging on the color warper itself. And it's very easy to get those colors into their boxes. But then look what happened to the color warper. There are lines intersecting that really should not be intersecting, because that means you have colors looping back as you sweep across the spectrum. And this seems to happen regardless of how many segments I give the color warper in the dropdown. I haven't figured out how to soften the falloff when using the eyedropper to change the color. But this really feels like the kind of thing that _should_ be possible. If there were more intermediate colors on my color card, I might be able to untangle the points, but that's the wrong solution. It's like asking all of the applesauce companies to change the shape of their containers because I have one specific large spoon that I prefer to eat applesauce with. It's worth noting, though, that this problem of colors looping back can happen with the HvH curve as well. If the slope on any part of the curve is too steep, you can make a loop. An extreme example might be that red is red, orange is orange, and yellow is red again. imgur.com/a/PXHpavi
Excllent video! One question. If you don't shoot at vlog but in cine-d or natural you should make a white balance that almost matches with the scene and then put in front of the camera and shoot. Am I right?
Could you let me know why you chose Rec.709 as Target Gamma? Are you also exporting and viewing it on Rec.709 Gamma tag monitor? Is it a better choice to set it to gamma 2.4?
When I isolate that top row as you did around 7:33, my vectorscope is barely visible despite maxing out the brightness (in the settings for the vectorscope). Does that have something to do with my footage or is there a configuration option I'm missing?
Hmm I don't know because that would be my suggestion. Maybe the saturation of the clip itself needs to be turn up to see it better? I've never had that problem.
Hi, how about working in Davinci Wide Gammut color space? After selecting Highlight, looks like that showing flat vlog format (excluding CST conversion) in Davinci 18.5.2 ver. What meters levels should be in flat (vlog). Thank you. Can't find on internet.
Forgive my ignorance but this process would negate the use of a CST on the last node correct? So to sum up, this is a more detailed approach to colour grading your log footage where a CST is a broad stroke to give all around satisfactory results albeit a little less custom?
What does it mean when the color dot (during the Proper Hue section) seems to hit an invisible wall and flattens? I've been going back and forth between Sat and Hue v. Sat
Any chance you could make an update for this using Resolve 18.5? I ask because the wand is gone in 18.5 and I can't get past the exposure part now, and it's frustrating, thus me asking for an update because this is the best color checker tutorial on the net.
Thanks! I'm trying this with Resolve 17 but when pressing the wand the waveform dissapears? It is just a straight white line at 512. Am I missing something?
This is a great video, but the exposure is WAY off using my Waveform monitor. I can't figure out how it's possibly this far off. I'm recording in the natural profile (with GH4s and GH5s) and the scopes appear to be radically over-exposed. When I adjust them to be correct, the resulting image is WAY too dark.
Hello Jamie, you said , you can use the false color for correct exposure or use the zebra's and set them to 90 Percent and when you see the zebra's you have correct exposure. I think you are wrong. Set the zebra's to 50% or even lower if your camera can and if you see them, stop down and try to get approx the exposure. The best option is to use the waveform monitor with the gray card or use a lightmeter.
Hi Jamie. I do not want to be annoying, but the chart for Vlog is that white falls at 61 percent, not at 90 or below 90. Zero reflrction is 7.3, 18 percent is 43 and 90 percent is as said 61IRE. Further it is weird that after using the color match, you stiil have to adjust manually the exposure and hue/satuation. The color card match must do this all for yoy, otherwise what is the benefit of the card. Than, you can better do from scratch manually if it doesn't works as it should be. I get good exposure and white balance if this was not done before. But the hue/saturation (as seen in the vector scope) differs from f.i. my Arri Log C to Rec709 Lut. This is with my Canon C70 and BMPCC 4K as well. Mayby it is not the case that you have to line up these exacly along the axes. To be pisitive, I have to say that your instruction video belong to the best I have exoerienced. Clear voice, not to fast but still with the right pace and everything in the ligical order. Good explinations, top. Hope you are still my friend-:). Harold
This is not working for me. I'm not sure if it's because my footage is in F-log and I'm not sure what the Target Gamma and Target Color Space is suppose to be but my contrast go nuts when I follow the steps you're using. My highlights get blown out and my blacks get real black lol
Great video indeed. I am screwed up with the source gamma 😭😭😭😭 I am filming with canon Eos m50 cone style flat profile. I don’t know which source gamma it is. I have tried all of them on Davinci list and none matches 😭😭😭😭
Jamie Fenn hm... no idea what that means, but today I have tried sRGB, and it functioned somehow... well, I am not the best video editor, learning from your videos. I have canon m50.
Hey Jamie! I am searching for a color checker card but I would need to use it for both video AND photo. I have seen that there are two models. Is there a reason to buy one or the other? Which one should I choose (from Xrite)? Thank you in advance!
You know you’re hardcore when you carry your color chart around your neck :) Are you working with Resolve Color management here in the background? If so, what are your settings. I also shoot VLOG, but I have started to work with CST in and out where I go from VLOG to Wide Gammut, then Wide Gammut to REC709. In between those, I do all my adjustments. I like this more than to use management in the project settings.
Jamie Fenn Drops a video while you are working?
1) Run to your office
2) Lock the door
3) Set your outlook calendar to "In a meeting"
4) Enjoy 11 minutes and 28 secs of peace.
hahaha that made me laugh.. thanks Matteo :D
I’ve watched hundreds of tutorials on color matching and exposure, but this video is a game-changer! Your unique techniques and clear explanations finally made it all click for me. Thanks for elevating my video editing skills to perfection! 🙌
Awesome, thank you!
Jamie, this is- hands down- the best, easiest video I’ve seen to handle what I personally think are the two most important things to get nailed for making CZcams videos- exposure and color grading. Love this tutorial! It is immediately going to go into my workflow.
Wow, thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. :D
Yes!!! This is so helpful. I might need to watch this 10x but the whole process is a game changer for me.
Wow I’m fascinated by that, looks like the search for a perfect looking image has come to an end
Cool! I think that’s the first time I’ve watch any colour tab vid and had a fair idea what is being said! Good job Jamie! Now to add a Colour Matching thing to the shopping list...
hahaha yeaaaa
Thank you! I believe this was the best instruction of how to use the Video Passport Color Checker tool that I've seen. I will want to share this video with others who are getting started.
Wow thanks Keith I really appreciate that! Thanks for your support!
Very helpful and straight to the point, no rifraf - subbed and thank you for sharing
I realize this is 3 years old but it really is timeless! Absolutely great tutorial Jamie!!
Thank you so much!!
This was so informative and easy to follow. These aren't even covered in the color correction book that blackmagic make so thank you very much. You should do more Color grading tutorials.
You are so welcome!
Excellent video, especially for a beginner who doesn't necessarily understand color. The directions and the step-by-step are extremely helpful thank you so much for doing this.
Glad you enjoyed it! I tried to be as clear as possible so Its nice to hear that.
This is THE video I was looking for. Thanks a million for making this tutorial. Now I am buying a colorchecker
Hope you used my link 😉
I watch this video all the time just to refresh myself on how to use the color card. Some of the controls have changed but this is my go to. Thanks Jamie!
So glad to hear that. Yea I’ll need to remake this for 2024! Much luv 🙏🏼
@@JamieFenn One thing I missed when watching your video was the need to turn off the pen tool in the power window after using the six primary colors and the boxes in the vector scope! I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong! Also, using Ctrl and the scroll wheel to move the clip up and down in the preview window! I won't forget!
I can't believe it took me this long to find this! I can't afford the passport but davinci supports a cheaper card that costs alot less. Thanks very much for teaching me this!
I’ve been doing this manually by eye with … variable results: I didn’t know Xrite was even a thing in DVR. Just bought Color Checker Passport for my next project. Thank you so much!
Glad I could help!
This is one of the best videos I've ran across. Not only for the Color Checker but the use of each of the functions in Color section of Davinci! Thank you for keeping it simple and straight to the point. This will be video I'll be referencing again and again until I become an expert in Davinci! You sir have a new sub!
Thanks man I really appreciate that… cheers! 🙏🏼
Nice demo of using the color checker to color correct. I found it to be very easy to follow. Thanks for creating and sharing this video.
Glad it was helpful!
This was LEGIT so, SO great to follow. Easy instructions. Had my footage looking PERFECT. THANK YOU.
This is pure gold. Almost nobody at the semi-professional level uses a color checker so far as I've seen so I expect this to take my videos up a notch.
I imagine you would use your checker sans any colored light on your subject.
True, I agree with you
This is so clear and concise It touched on every little thing I was looking for. Most especially the last bit about the redness in the skin, which is an issue I ran into recently but didn't know how to correct. thanks bro
So glad you found this helpful!
The thing about using 2x zoom and saturation with the color tuning in the vectorscope part of the video
along with the skin tones part
really added to your last tutorial :thumbs_up:, NICE.
Yea there was a few things that I needed to clarify with this video and that was one of them!
Finally! A proper video explaining how to use this. Thanks!
You're welcome!
Great Video, I don't see how any one would go wrong using your procedure of shooting and processing the color checker..... Ill be using this from now on...
After about a year of using it this is the best method I came across. Glad you found this helpful!
This was the best video I have watched on Color Correction. I am pumped to use this on my next podcast
Awesome! Thank you!
Me too 👍
Wow ... huge colorimetry course under DaVinci Resolve ... Huge.
A huge thank you for this great tutorial !!!
Glad it was helpful!
This is an absolutely brilliant video. Thanks to you, I finally understand how to use the card. Thanks so much for putting so much of your time and expertise into the video for us. I’ve subscribed and will watch a lot of your videos.
You are so welcome!
This was really an excellent, to the point video, thank you
Great video - as always. Much appreciate this, helps me alot.
I discovered one thing I want to share here: In the section where you set the exposure-node by using the waveform scope on the three color chips. DaVinci offers a little helper, matching the red,green and blue channels much easier. You have set up the wand for the three color chips (white grey, black) and eyeball the channels with the waveform-scope. This is sometimes difficult. Now, to see it easier which channel is off, hover the mouse over the three chips. In the scope window a circle appears. In real, there are three circles - red, green and blue. Now we can see better, which color is off. High or low. If all color channels match perfectly, there will be only one cyan circle. Give it a try, for me, it makes it easier to see in which direction I have to corrects the colors.
Thanks again for your work - stay creative.
Interesting! But I did not understand how to do it?
Wow Jamie i just got into creating cooking videos on CZcams and I couldn't figure out why I was looking such pig-colored.
There are a few videos every other year that you look back at with warmth and think "WoW, that was really something else".
This is one of them.
Glad I could help!
Even more detail from the other. TY. Excellent
Thanks a lot... This video have changed my way to correct colors in DR, from probably an inefficient way* to a much better and less complicated one. Understanding is in my opinion much more important than just know how to do it. Many CZcamsrs are so warried that there videos will be to long. To me it´s much more important that we that want to learn really does so. Please: continue make videos the way you did in this one: Where you in the first room have focus on our learning, not just want to view how brilliant and fast you are in correction and grading.
* I've been fiddeling up and down with the W,R,G and B underneath the wheels
Thanks for the video. For those looking for the X-rite ColorChecker Passport. It's now the CaliBrite ColorChecker Passport. CaliBrite is a global partner of X-rite.
I'm waiting for mine to arrive. It's late.☹
Awww yes thank you for the update. I guess it’s time I make another video 😏
Well I had no idea about all of this so thank you for a brilliant and clear video. I’ve been struggling with skin tones and white balance for months as a novice but this gives me confidence in getting it bang on !!! Thank you
You’re so welcome Paul! 🙏🏼
@Jamie, that was awesome. Simple, clear and very useful tut! Thank you very very much. (goes to amazon to get the color checker, sigh...)
Awesome, thank you Im glad you thought so. Like I said I made a video on this a while ago but I felt like it was lacking. haha Its a great purchase. :D
Very well done. This should be the premiere video the pops up for the people that purchased the XRite Color Checker. Hell, maybe Xrite could toss a link in the box that directs people to this video :D
Ha it’s funny you say that because when I made this I was thinking “why the hell do they not have a detailed video to show you exactly how to use it. Or even a step by step manual..” but I really appreciate it and maybe one day they will see it and direct people towards it. Cheers man
Subscribed!! Switching over from Premier and Red Giant. Looking forward to seeing improvements on my videos......
Awesome! Thank you!
Jamie Fenn This is Allen... Just purchased the xrite from your affiliate link!! I hope to start color grading like a champ !! Thanks for the advice!!
Awesome allen! Keep an eye on on that vector scope after you use the xrite - the xrite can be perfect but your scene could be off. (make proper corrections after you follow the steps in this video!
Great tutorial, thanks!
You''re so welcome!
so awesome. Ive had the passport for years but never really integrated it in full colour grading.
Wow this is cool. Awesome review Jamie. Loved and subbed from Canada.
Awesome! Thank you and welcome to the channel 🙏🏼
This video is way better than the first one you did. Thanks.
Yea that first video definitely needed an update! Needed to go into detail about a few things for sure. Thanks for watching and the feedback!
Great Video! I was looking for this exact video. Your previous video about the X-rite CC passport was excellent, also. This one was more in-depth. Thanks for sharing!!!!
Thanks for watching both! I wanted to create a more detailed video explaining how and why I use it. And also the things I've learned over the years.
Beautiful! Something I have been wanting to learn. More involved than I thought. Thanks for sharing.
You are so welcome!
Jamie, that was a really good video! Easy to understand bro. I appreciate you on this. Mad skills and knowledge is what you impart and give. Thank you!
I appreciate that!
Thank you! Seriously this was a huge help!
I had to subscribe after watching this video... well done and Thanks ...Keep up the good work.
Awesome, thank you!
This is the best tutorial I've seen! Thank you so much for this!
You're very welcome!
This is SOOO helpful.
Thank Jamie. Always finding the Nugget tools in resolve.
Youre welcome! :D
@@JamieFenn Shameful plug: Created with the latest Resolve DNX HQ 444. It will take yt an hour to process the 4K file. Its only in SD for the next hour. These are my latest Sunburst files.
czcams.com/video/x-DgXCr1ub0/video.html
Great tutorial, thanks. What I don't understand, after Color Matching you still have to adjust everything, like saturation, color tones, skin tones. I expected everything should be spot on after Color Matching.
Because it’s just not perfect
05:11 woaaav! dude thanks a lot for this zoom trick.
No problem 😉💪🏽
This is really helpful and looks great! But I have a question: I've been taught that adjusting exposure first is best practice before touching colors, mainly because the colors misalign when you adjust exposure afterwards. While watching the node chart build, I was wondering if it could have been finished in fewer nodes if exposure was checked first. My question is, do you feel like that ever stalls out your process in Davinci? Thanks!
Very easy to follow. Thank you 🙏
You’re welcome 😊
wow some awesome tips in here!
Very cool!
This is perfect
Thanks for making this video. Very interesting.
I love this video. Different ways to improve the colors. And I still wonder, why the color checker is not enough to restore neutral colors? Due to possible light glares or noise? I would expect that at least it wouldn't be necessary to adjust white balance on the gray card. If I were producer of the color checker I would also add those white/gray/black stripes to the color matrix in Davinci Resolve. And I also wonder: Should I give up setting LUT on the clip itself and define source/target in color checker or set the LUT on the clip and set source/target to REC 709 in the tool?
Excellent video! What would a simple node tree structure look like if I’m using something like dehancer? White Balance - Color Checker - Dehancer? And if I wanted to use a Phantom Lut or any lut where in the tree would that go?
Outstanding video !!!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for doing this! Very useful!
Awesome job.
Thank you! Cheers!
Great lesson Jamie! Thx
My pleasure!
superb tutorial
Thank you! Cheers!
Great vid, mate, simplified and to the point, cheers for that :)
No problem 👍
on 2nd node when you input ur camera source gamma, would it still work if you set your target gamma and color to a bigger col space like davinci wide gamma and davinci intermediate to give you a larger col space to work with and do ur other adjustments and then add another node at the end and do a color space tranform to rec 709 inputting davinci wide gamma and davinci intermediste and output to rec 709 gamma 2.4 just a thought
8:28 Fussy sections like those dots, perfect place for A.I. to do it. Would save heaps of time on the mundane stuff.
Agreed
This is outstanding! SOOOO Helpful. Thank you!!!! :)
You are so welcome!
Amazing video. Thanks for sharing this great idea. May you please tell me how to apply these changes to the other clips in the same shoot?
You have to use the color checker for each shot. The exposure and the lighting will be different for every shot.
Thanks 4 tutorial , but i dont understand why after color match and custom wb, image doesnt have proper hue
Good question, I have been wondering that myself for sometime now... I've skipped the matching portion and have gone with a colorspace transform and then used the checker to match up the chromatic chips and get proper exposure.
Great video thanks a lot. Where can I find which color checkers are supported in Davinci outer than in Davinci?
Great ,super clear descriptions on getting it right. Can’t wait to try this manual correction, vs auto chart correction. Can you also do a video that describes where the auto correction goes and how to manipulate it if you don’t like it’s effect. Thanks again.
Ill make more color correction tutorials in the future. (I use the auto and then do manual because I noticed the colors dont match exactly..)
@@JamieFenn thank you. I love your videos
Dude, this is legit. Really consise content, all killer no filler style video, thanks for making it.
I'm shooting right now on a Nikon D500. It's what I've got, and provided I expose correctly (I use an Shenobi external monitor to help there), it does okay, but I'm debating on getting the color chart. Think this is the next step I should go?
I feel like it's tough to get exposure and color right, and this video basically confirms what I think I already know: I gotta get one of those charts. ...right?
I would. Its been super helpful for me. "Professional" colorists say they dont use them but personally I havent been stuck in front of a computer screen coloring for 10+ years so maybe they're just mad theres a tool out there that does their job pretty well XD Yes I would get one. Link is in the description for the one I have.
@@JamieFenn that's good feedback. Honestly, just getting something that is repeatable in the process so I can remove the guess work would be pretty great.
Thanks again!
Hi Jamie! Correct me if I´m wrong but I think that the white chip used for exposure has an input reflection of 90% but its IRE is actually 61 when shooting in VLog. Being that case, wouldn´t I have to set my zebras at 61%? I mean the grey chip has an input reflection of 18% and its IRE is 42. Wouldn´t it be the same logic for the white chip too? I also think that VLog clips at 80 IRE, so if I set the zebras at 90 for the white chip wouldn´t I be clipping it? Please, let me know what you think since I am new to this and I might be mixing concepts here... Great video, Thanks! :)
Always expose for middle gray. I don’t think you can set zebras at 90 when shooting vlog.
I don't know how but you explained everything. Every detail. Chapeau. One question, in what order should we grade?
I see you did the x-rite auto color balance, then exposure/balance, then manual color balance again. (I don't think I see the pattern)
hahah well thank you. I tried to not miss any steps. As long as you his the correct exposure and get your saturation and hues in the targets you should be good to go :)
very helpfull thank you
You're welcome!
awesome
Now that Resolve 17 has the new color warper tool, it's even easier to get the primaries where they're supposed to be. With the color warper panel selected, you just click and drag directly on the spots on your video. As you watch the scope, those color peaks will move exactly as your mouse moves, up, down, left, and right. You just drag them right where they need to be.
To me, it seems like a slightly better approach than using the hue vs. hue curves with the default primaries. After all, you're not really trying to tell the program, "red should be a lower hue". What you want to tell it is, "See this reddish thing here? That's supposed to _actually_ be perfect red." And in doing it this way, you're less likely to have to make multiple passes. The traditional way, as we saw, sometimes moving magenta will mess up your blue a little and you have to go back.
Hey Tom! Yea I havent tried it with the color warper yet but yea I think you are right!! Have you used the color warper yet for this? Does it work well?
@@JamieFenn Jury's still out on that. It feels intuitive to use, but the selection and manipulation isn't smooth enough. Like in this example. I used the eyedropper-drag tool to manipulate the colors, rather than clicking and dragging on the color warper itself. And it's very easy to get those colors into their boxes. But then look what happened to the color warper. There are lines intersecting that really should not be intersecting, because that means you have colors looping back as you sweep across the spectrum. And this seems to happen regardless of how many segments I give the color warper in the dropdown.
I haven't figured out how to soften the falloff when using the eyedropper to change the color. But this really feels like the kind of thing that _should_ be possible.
If there were more intermediate colors on my color card, I might be able to untangle the points, but that's the wrong solution. It's like asking all of the applesauce companies to change the shape of their containers because I have one specific large spoon that I prefer to eat applesauce with.
It's worth noting, though, that this problem of colors looping back can happen with the HvH curve as well. If the slope on any part of the curve is too steep, you can make a loop. An extreme example might be that red is red, orange is orange, and yellow is red again.
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Excllent video! One question. If you don't shoot at vlog but in cine-d or natural you should make a white balance that almost matches with the scene and then put in front of the camera and shoot. Am I right?
Thanks a lot for a great video.
So nice of you much appreciated!
Great video, thank you. I always thought I should be aligning the middle grey with 512 on the waveform. Is 384 really the baseline to align it too?
EXCELLENT VIDEO WELL EXPLAINED
Glad it was helpful!
Could you let me know why you chose Rec.709 as Target Gamma? Are you also exporting and viewing it on Rec.709 Gamma tag monitor? Is it a better choice to set it to gamma 2.4?
When I isolate that top row as you did around 7:33, my vectorscope is barely visible despite maxing out the brightness (in the settings for the vectorscope). Does that have something to do with my footage or is there a configuration option I'm missing?
Hmm I don't know because that would be my suggestion. Maybe the saturation of the clip itself needs to be turn up to see it better? I've never had that problem.
Great job! Thank you :-)
Glad you liked it!
Hi, how about working in Davinci Wide Gammut color space? After selecting Highlight, looks like that showing flat vlog format (excluding CST conversion) in Davinci 18.5.2 ver. What meters levels should be in flat (vlog). Thank you. Can't find on internet.
Hi! Are we supposed to do this each time we film? Thanks ! amazing video
To get the same color match yes
Forgive my ignorance but this process would negate the use of a CST on the last node correct? So to sum up, this is a more detailed approach to colour grading your log footage where a CST is a broad stroke to give all around satisfactory results albeit a little less custom?
What does it mean when the color dot (during the Proper Hue section) seems to hit an invisible wall and flattens? I've been going back and forth between Sat and Hue v. Sat
Any chance you could make an update for this using Resolve 18.5? I ask because the wand is gone in 18.5 and I can't get past the exposure part now, and it's frustrating, thus me asking for an update because this is the best color checker tutorial on the net.
probably too late to reply, but you can press Shift+H or to the left of your timeline name there is a circle inside a rectangle. Click on it
@@TaitAlexander Thanks!
This is fantastic. Cheers!
Thank you! Cheers!
@jamie fenn would you need to do Color correction after this processnor this is replavokg Color correction?
Thanks! I'm trying this with Resolve 17 but when pressing the wand the waveform dissapears? It is just a straight white line at 512. Am I missing something?
Excellent video! Is there a difference between a "video" passport checker and a "photography" color checker? They both look very similar.
Yes one is photo and ones for video. I made the mistake thinking it was the same thing, and although they do look similar, they’re not.
This is a great video, but the exposure is WAY off using my Waveform monitor. I can't figure out how it's possibly this far off. I'm recording in the natural profile (with GH4s and GH5s) and the scopes appear to be radically over-exposed. When I adjust them to be correct, the resulting image is WAY too dark.
Maybe try and hit the 90% white with 90% zebras with the natural profile. I expose for vlog in this video.
Hello Jamie, you said , you can use the false color for correct exposure or use the zebra's and set them to 90 Percent and when you see the zebra's you have correct exposure. I think you are wrong. Set the zebra's to 50% or even lower if your camera can and if you see them, stop down and try to get approx the exposure. The best option is to use the waveform monitor with the gray card or use a lightmeter.
Sorry, you say to look at the white bar, not the gray one. Than you are right.
Hi Jamie. I do not want to be annoying, but the chart for Vlog is that white falls at 61 percent, not at 90 or below 90. Zero reflrction is 7.3, 18 percent is 43 and 90 percent is as said 61IRE. Further it is weird that after using the color match, you stiil have to adjust manually the exposure and hue/satuation. The color card match must do this all for yoy, otherwise what is the benefit of the card. Than, you can better do from scratch manually if it doesn't works as it should be. I get good exposure and white balance if this was not done before. But the hue/saturation (as seen in the vector scope) differs from f.i. my Arri Log C to Rec709 Lut. This is with my Canon C70 and BMPCC 4K as well. Mayby it is not the case that you have to line up these exacly along the axes.
To be pisitive, I have to say that your instruction video belong to the best I have exoerienced. Clear voice, not to fast but still with the right pace and everything in the ligical order. Good explinations, top. Hope you are still my friend-:). Harold
This is not working for me. I'm not sure if it's because my footage is in F-log and I'm not sure what the Target Gamma and Target Color Space is suppose to be but my contrast go nuts when I follow the steps you're using. My highlights get blown out and my blacks get real black lol
Your watch next playlist got in the way at the end there
Yea I really wanted the message to be “WATCH THIS” 😂 I’ll move it when I get the chance
Great video indeed. I am screwed up with the source gamma 😭😭😭😭 I am filming with canon Eos m50 cone style flat profile. I don’t know which source gamma it is. I have tried all of them on Davinci list and none matches 😭😭😭😭
hmmm not sure. Does your camera have Clog?
Jamie Fenn hm... no idea what that means, but today I have tried sRGB, and it functioned somehow... well, I am not the best video editor, learning from your videos. I have canon m50.
Hey Jamie! I am searching for a color checker card but I would need to use it for both video AND photo. I have seen that there are two models. Is there a reason to buy one or the other? Which one should I choose (from Xrite)? Thank you in advance!
You know you’re hardcore when you carry your color chart around your neck :) Are you working with Resolve Color management here in the background? If so, what are your settings. I also shoot VLOG, but I have started to work with CST in and out where I go from VLOG to Wide Gammut, then Wide Gammut to REC709. In between those, I do all my adjustments. I like this more than to use management in the project settings.
I’m just in the default project settings