Necrons vs Death Guard Warhammer 40k 10th Edition Battle Report Ep 21

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Komentáře • 226

  • @In3F
    @In3F Před rokem +28

    Necrons casually respawning faster than DG can kill them

    • @ianwilliams9559
      @ianwilliams9559 Před rokem +1

      The new Res Protocol and Orb rules are what got me most excited for this edition

  • @cameronhaynes9983
    @cameronhaynes9983 Před rokem +17

    A note on what Luca said about Reanimation Protocols and keeping friends, you aren't allowed to be scummy anymore (I'm also not sure you were allowed to in 9th)
    When models are added to a unit during the battle they must be placed within coherency range of models that were on the table at the start of the phase.
    So if a Necron/Death Guard/Tyranid/etc player tries to do this, show them Page 1 of the rules commentary document

  • @savethezombies
    @savethezombies Před rokem +22

    I like the new trend of winter themed Death Guard I've been seeing around. It's not my style but it does look cool and it's smart to attack during cold and flu season.

    • @travisboozell3711
      @travisboozell3711 Před rokem

      Ell he is from Iowa and the winters there suck glad I moved south couple years ago

  • @nalthanzo4648
    @nalthanzo4648 Před rokem +45

    As a Necrons player attempting to learn DG, this is quite a lovely match to watch.

    • @krilc
      @krilc Před rokem +9

      I think the tip is when learning DG: Don't bother

  • @kalamander8563
    @kalamander8563 Před rokem +48

    Brave is the man who plays Death Guard in this edition.

    • @savethezombies
      @savethezombies Před rokem +3

      I have an old lost and the damned army. I decided now was the time to turn it into a proper Death Guard army. I want to see if they're really that hard to play.

    • @johnvanzelm2307
      @johnvanzelm2307 Před rokem +4

      They are a great introductory army for new players to play AGAINST!

    • @humiekitten7818
      @humiekitten7818 Před rokem +7

      As a death guard player I can say that we are, at the very least, determined

    • @jacob-2271
      @jacob-2271 Před rokem

      You might even call them mentally ill (it's a joke I swear)
      I'm sure gw will at least try and figure out how to balance them and give them something good or at least fun and unique because apparently they aren't allowed to be durable anymore

    • @andrewbakescakes9684
      @andrewbakescakes9684 Před rokem +2

      Pro-tip: some of your plague marines might find employment in a CSM army, where Nurgle marked Legionnaires and Chosen and terminators have their upsides. You could be closer to a CSM army than you think, which has better Nurgle rules than straight up Nurgle marines (because Gdubs is durrrr).

  • @bartoszswiatek957
    @bartoszswiatek957 Před rokem +6

    Your attitudes are so wholesome and friendly, it makes these battreps a joy to watch. This is how 40k should be played.

  • @andrewbakescakes9684
    @andrewbakescakes9684 Před rokem +7

    DG vs Necrons. Mad respect for the DG player to bring the hard mode faction.

  • @braydenputt2237
    @braydenputt2237 Před rokem +3

    That "thanks Skare" under Luka's breath got me good

  • @Mickekzon
    @Mickekzon Před rokem +13

    You have to declare targets when shootting weapons BEFORE you shoot (34:54). You can't just see how it goes and pump more into the target or see it die and switch to another unit.
    It's a very important rule.

    • @stevens9625
      @stevens9625 Před rokem +1

      A bit of 8th sneaking back in.

    • @Temphis626
      @Temphis626 Před rokem

      @@stevens9625 no you had to do that in 8th as well, that's just a rules oversight in general.

  • @NecroGoblin-yl2fx
    @NecroGoblin-yl2fx Před rokem +16

    the best DG list.
    1 x Warhound Titan.
    1 x Knight
    then fill in with DG units :D

    • @Mastercio
      @Mastercio Před rokem +2

      I mean... u can also bring some demons.

    • @NecroGoblin-yl2fx
      @NecroGoblin-yl2fx Před rokem +1

      @@Mastercio well been thinking about that for my army, though without the warhound :D

    • @cabellism
      @cabellism Před rokem +1

      Or a few Brigands IF you can find any....

  • @Blight02
    @Blight02 Před rokem +49

    Really hope that GW do an emergency rebalance on DG. Not a ton of hope but there's a chance.

    • @christopherclayton5500
      @christopherclayton5500 Před rokem +2

      They'll be doing points updates every 3 months, so expect it within 3 months.

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 Před rokem +8

      @@christopherclayton5500 feel like they need more than points changes but it'll help.
      Just feels like nothing in the army does anything particularly well.

    • @StaplesofDoom
      @StaplesofDoom Před rokem +2

      @@Blight02 Good news from the future, there is going to be a balance/points pass next week so might get lucky.

    • @asteroidrules
      @asteroidrules Před rokem +2

      Really hope that GW do an emergency rebalance on 10e as a whole. It's really obvious that they shoved an unfinished ruleset out the door before testing it to meet a deadline.

    • @christopherclayton5500
      @christopherclayton5500 Před rokem +2

      @Blight02 I think it will take more than points to be enjoyable, but not more than points to be balanced, if that makes sense?

  • @von2320
    @von2320 Před rokem +48

    Looking at the points of DG is truly frustrating in its own right.

    • @cabellism
      @cabellism Před rokem +4

      Amen, quite a bit could use a drop. PBC, Helbrute, PMs, Poxxys.

    • @Altheion
      @Altheion Před rokem +3

      My DG army got like 300-400 points cheaper with 10th edition. Have not played it yet though.

    • @williamlawson3039
      @williamlawson3039 Před rokem

      I'd have been using pox walkers, I think I'd have left the terminators at the house, and probably said bye to the tallyman and maybe used a squad or two of cultists. Maybe left mortarion at home for a couple more squads of marines.

    • @Dementat
      @Dementat Před rokem

      My DG haven't changed much, points dropped almost exactly enough for an extra unit of Terminators

    • @Volos__
      @Volos__ Před rokem +5

      The points aren't so much the issue, IMO, as the datasheets we're paying for. I dont wanna run heaps of models, I dont want to run super killy units or models. I want to be hard to kill and just wear the enemy down. And we currently do... neither of those things haha.

  • @benn1181
    @benn1181 Před rokem +2

    I've never seen anyone worry about coherency as much as Luka does

  • @18almason
    @18almason Před rokem +5

    Man I wanna see Lukka goof around with 40 Warriors and Illuminor Szeras he's such a cool model and now he's actually fun to run

    • @josephvaccariello4181
      @josephvaccariello4181 Před rokem

      ikr the 4+ invulns he gives out is so good + once per game he just goes beast mode and likely wipes a unit from the table

    • @christopherclayton5500
      @christopherclayton5500 Před rokem

      ​@@josephvaccariello4181That would be Orikan.

    • @moofinsgaming
      @moofinsgaming Před rokem

      Dude I’m literally painting my szeras right now

  • @FarseerB1rdy
    @FarseerB1rdy Před rokem +4

    Those dice are absolutely busted 😂

  • @xaldrortenderofthevats8948

    "typically durable"
    please, stop rubbing the salt in the wound...

  • @Marshallo.o
    @Marshallo.o Před rokem +11

    Reanimator tanking stuff like a boss. From zero in 9th to hero in 10th \o/

    • @hansjohannsen6722
      @hansjohannsen6722 Před rokem

      Doesn't it have an invul?

    • @hansjohannsen6722
      @hansjohannsen6722 Před rokem +1

      Nope that was the doomstalker that got it. Boo. My some wiped mine turn two last night anyway... I got over eager and wanted his shots to badly.

  • @Dewoy1
    @Dewoy1 Před rokem +8

    Man i love the new Necrons! And pls more games with them.
    The Monolith is so awsome. You could further buffing him up by taking the leader Aura Endhancement. So he gets +1 BS and +1 on the RP stratagan, Further more, a Canoptek Spyder would give him a 6+ FNP. He could tank so much!

    • @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475
      @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 Před rokem +1

      How do you mean +1 from the RP Stratagem?

    • @KhazModan1
      @KhazModan1 Před rokem

      Even better, for 1CP you can get full re-roll to wound

    • @Dewoy1
      @Dewoy1 Před rokem

      @@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 If you have a charakter with the enhancement for leading, then when using the undying legion strat you gain D3+1
      "Reanimation Protocols and reanimates
      D3 wounds. When doing so, if a Necrons
      Character is leading your unit, your unit
      reanimates D3+1 wounds instead."

    • @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475
      @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 Před rokem +1

      @@Dewoy1 Ah, I see nice.

    • @TheGamingTaco13
      @TheGamingTaco13 Před rokem

      ​@@Dewoy1 what leader can take this? Because I don't see any of the leaders having this as an option

  • @zachhowe98
    @zachhowe98 Před rokem +4

    I am suspecting an outcome. I will edit if confirmed.
    Confirmed.

  • @bungus_chungus1401
    @bungus_chungus1401 Před rokem +25

    Anyone want to place bets on how badly the death guard get stomped by the crons?

  • @pharoahman475
    @pharoahman475 Před rokem +2

    God the Death Guard got massacred.
    Only units they killed were a unit of 3 Scarabs, and a Cryptek who died do to coherency issues. They lost everything but a Predator, their 2 named Characters, and a single Terminator.

  • @ryansimpson4519
    @ryansimpson4519 Před rokem +42

    As a DG player, I’m not surprised at this outcome…just disappointed in GW for what they’ve done to my boys

    • @Daniel88563
      @Daniel88563 Před rokem +1

      Hey Ryan, I totally understand your point of view however... This DG list isn't competitive at all. I'm still running DG but I've changed my list. I'm running at least 2 X Crawlers, 2 X blightlord terminators and 2 X death shroud terminators. Keep with DG just shake it up a little!

    • @ryansimpson4519
      @ryansimpson4519 Před rokem +2

      My issue isn’t with the list but rather the functionality and synergy of the army. An optimised mono-DG list is severely outclassed by a competitive Eldar or GSC list.
      Personally, I’m going to play DG because I like the lore and aesthetic. I just disagree with the choices GW made on how they are represented on the tabletop for this new edition.

  • @EricDeKirkwood99
    @EricDeKirkwood99 Před rokem +1

    Necrons vs Chaos Space Marines with a couple allied dg units.

  • @TheBrownNote420
    @TheBrownNote420 Před rokem +3

    What did they do to my DG

  • @lordravenblade
    @lordravenblade Před rokem

    “It’s infected and sticky so you don’t need to worry about it” I sure hope you never try to group up with me in a zombie apocalypse.

  • @phillipbell8236
    @phillipbell8236 Před rokem +5

    Fun facts, as per the FAQ update, you must add all restored models to a unit within cohesion with the living models, you are unable to string out

  • @falloutboy9993
    @falloutboy9993 Před rokem +2

    You should really add some Cryptothralls to the Necron list. Makes the warriors a lot more durable. You basically get 2 2W models with the same armor but with 4+ FNP. And they benefit from the warriors d6 Reanimation.

  • @johnvanzelm2307
    @johnvanzelm2307 Před rokem +2

    You mean durable until 10th edition.

  • @Kurorahk
    @Kurorahk Před rokem

    Watching this while working on my necrons, I enjoy seeing the Lychguard and Reanimator in action as the Lychguard I have adored since they first showed up with those shields, and the Reanimator I wanted last edition but couldn't justify running one, now it's getting put together.
    Also as you said, Reaper Squads are good with a way to reposition them, be it Veil or Monolith, or just summoning them with a night scythe.

  • @gendy4369
    @gendy4369 Před rokem +3

    i think you could have used monolith ability instead of fall back with those warriors (1:31:00 or something) after that you would be eligible to shoot

  • @KhazModan1
    @KhazModan1 Před rokem +2

    I’m not totally sold on warriors yet. Immortals cost 2 points more per model and have +1 save, +1T, +1BS, re-roll to wound and a better gun. Sure the warriors reanimate better, but they also take more wounds

    • @moofinsgaming
      @moofinsgaming Před rokem +1

      I think the warriors and immortals are pretty close in their effectiveness me personally I use the warriors as cannon fodder at front of the battle while my overlord leads my immortals a little farther back just casually throwing 10 shots into other frontline units

  • @caseyherbst8382
    @caseyherbst8382 Před rokem

    Great batrep. It is informative, such that I am learning what these two armies can do as I own neither. Plus friendly and pleasant to watch (not grating with attempts at comedy) and listen, especially given the appalling performance of the DG player's dice rolls. Good sportsmanship there. :) And, dayam, your South Paw skilz in rolling dice one handed while the right hand holds the camera. :D

  • @jovanwolf1
    @jovanwolf1 Před rokem +3

    I didn't really see how the DG player was using his CPs. I would think the battle with the Terminators and Mortarion could have really benefitted from the Sanguous Flux CP allowing Sustained Hits 1 or 2 if near controlled objective. Those extra hits would have been invaluable to clear out those reanimating Necrons.

    • @josephvaccariello4181
      @josephvaccariello4181 Před rokem +1

      if he didnt use the cp the land raider would prob be dead from the death beams hitting it

  • @blehbleh8794
    @blehbleh8794 Před rokem +4

    DG matches are always a fun to watch

  • @oinked
    @oinked Před rokem +1

    You could have pulled the necron warriors out of combat with mortarion using the monoliths portal in order to relocate them and still allow them to shoot...

  • @samthompson2980
    @samthompson2980 Před rokem

    Cool batrep 😁 thanks

  • @shaneherweyer3711
    @shaneherweyer3711 Před rokem +2

    Iowa death guard represents

  • @MrNashy19
    @MrNashy19 Před rokem +2

    The amount of 1s the death guard player rolled 😢

  • @kylelewis9175
    @kylelewis9175 Před rokem +4

    Death Guard durable....ha

  • @skarnak1
    @skarnak1 Před rokem

    Sean from Iowa! I am also from Iowa. Good luck man. Hope you had fun.

  • @Stormhierta
    @Stormhierta Před rokem +1

    Boilblight is only if there is a DG unit within Contagion range of the target...

  • @1337Sess
    @1337Sess Před rokem

    Good battle report! Also I like reaper warriors with a royal warden and chronomancer. Advance and fire from royal warden and chronomancer moves them back afterwards to kite. Its good that now both weapons for warriors seem like good picks though. Also used to feel cheesy doing the stringing out models thing with reanimation in 9th edition, but now they fixed it in 10th so you can't do that anymore which is good.

  • @kartogblacktusk8201
    @kartogblacktusk8201 Před 5 měsíci

    So Im going to point out that wasn't a lord of contagion. He was using a death guard chaos lord in term armour. Same base as the blightlords. The Lord of contagion is on the same base as typhus

  • @stax6092
    @stax6092 Před rokem +2

    I think it was a Huge mistake for Mortarion to not go into those Lychguard. There was no way for him to do enough damage in just the fight phase to put a significant dent in the warriors and finishing the Lychguard even if the Characters wouldn't be killed, getting rid of an entire unit is tantamount to beating Necrons. Always go for the full kill against Crons otherwise you're not gonna have a chance. Not that DG had much of one in the first place in their current state.
    Also, Luka needs to go over the Basics again. Piling in is a must with all models as well as fighting. Only shooting do you get to choose not to do.

  • @coreysteele9122
    @coreysteele9122 Před rokem +2

    How are death guard durable

  • @cartouchator
    @cartouchator Před rokem

    And this ladies and gents, is why you never, ever, ever, spread out your squads of Necron warriors like that.

  • @falloutboy9993
    @falloutboy9993 Před rokem +1

    Yeah, I built all my Warriors with Reapers. But I got a 3D printer so I never need to buy GW minis again.

  • @fkaroundhandleit
    @fkaroundhandleit Před rokem

    I took a LOV for blast buffing for plague burst crawler, defiler, and predator. 20 blob of poxawlkers with typhus, and 2 blobs of cultist with grenade launchers to sit on objs. Going to play a 1k game at some point. Other than that I'll probably do the same as the dg list if the 1k list goes good. DG stuff is very costly, doesn't do any damage and isn't very tanky...

  • @anvos658
    @anvos658 Před 6 měsíci

    Feels like Nurgle is concerned this Death Guard aren't spies for Tzeentch with all that blue and white.
    I really don't get why cleanse and tempting target don't have a turn 1 clause that they don't score until the end of the opponent's turn.
    Feels like things might have been better for the Death Guard if they focus fired more on street sweeping. I get the concept of trying to take out the big things, to cripple the army, but you can't reanimate a dead unit.

  • @garethsteel2893
    @garethsteel2893 Před rokem +1

    Can you use the eternity gate turn one because reserves aren’t allowed turn 1? What I’m I missing here? Also I don’t think you could have used protocol of undying legion a second time for 0 cp because it says if you’ve used it on a different unit

  • @SteveArnold43
    @SteveArnold43 Před rokem +4

    His Dice are loaded!!

  • @stanberry6798
    @stanberry6798 Před rokem

    I think I see why this game lasted nearly three hours. Dude loves to talk about his monolith.

  • @JasMill765
    @JasMill765 Před rokem

    Why wasn't the monolith deployed via deepstrike? It lets you get a full turn of max shooting without being shot at first, and get further up the field.

  • @ElLeoyeah
    @ElLeoyeah Před rokem

    3 defiler, 3 crawler, 2 predator destructor, 2x lord of virulence 2x5 blightlird terminators.
    Im going to try this list. Called DG Boomblasta.

  • @mrmatthewmale5892
    @mrmatthewmale5892 Před rokem

    Time to dust off the Necrons I painted for 9th but never played...

  • @Upyours99xs
    @Upyours99xs Před 11 měsíci

    @2:13:25 they needed to make a test to leave combat because that unit was battle shocked.

  • @theperfectshot1110
    @theperfectshot1110 Před rokem

    58:18 those guys are not in cover as the monolith can see all the squad?

  • @williamlawson3039
    @williamlawson3039 Před rokem

    Lol I think if I were to play him I'd end up setting fire to those taco cat dice.

  • @alessandrofonti4598
    @alessandrofonti4598 Před rokem

    Hi guys, nice br! REALLY
    Just remember cover save cannot go below 3+ for any reason 🤪

  • @Onk3lM0
    @Onk3lM0 Před rokem +9

    Jeeeesus christ, that DG player needs to thin his paints! Those coats are thick enough to give them their FNP back. xD

  • @johnj.spurgin7037
    @johnj.spurgin7037 Před rokem

    On one hand, chronomancer on lychguard and no cryptothralls. on the other hand, it's DG.
    I will say that I think the DG player kept forgetting the plagueburst crawler's force battleshock ability?

  • @dimitarhristov8704
    @dimitarhristov8704 Před rokem

    for pile in if you pile in one you pile in all

  • @brianmccarthyjr2551
    @brianmccarthyjr2551 Před rokem +3

    48:00 I thought the rule for piling in was if you can you have to. Am I misunderstanding how this works? Coherency is the unit and not the character attached to it, right?

    • @clintonwagoner3523
      @clintonwagoner3523 Před rokem +2

      You're right, this is a mistake on their end. When you select a unit to fight, they must pile in, and they must end in base to base contact if possible. The lychguard were supposed to pile in fully

    • @KahaniKhalifa
      @KahaniKhalifa Před rokem

      No, the rule says you can move each model that is not already in base contact, not that you must. If you do move a model, it must end closer to the closest enemy and in base contact if possible, but you can move as many or as few models in a unit as you choose.

  • @jamiemartini-tibbs995
    @jamiemartini-tibbs995 Před rokem +1

    So necrons have a character that can give a squad a 5+++ but death guard don’t… instead it’s a 2CP stratagem only in fight phase. Are GW high? Why does every other team get what is supposedly ‘too busted’ for death guard.

  • @thekaird377
    @thekaird377 Před rokem

    At the 48 minute mark, was that reanimation done correctly? Can Necrons reanimate before they slap back in the fight phase!?

  • @gravewalker8723
    @gravewalker8723 Před rokem

    great battle report as normal :) question for you, were did you get that grass from on your necrons it looks realy dam good. good to see someone with same army as me ;)

  • @maxtracker2904
    @maxtracker2904 Před rokem

    2.33mins…
    I guess Luka called it 🤣

  • @evanremillard5640
    @evanremillard5640 Před rokem

    First off, love the game guys.
    Second, what was GW thinking when they got to Death Guard? They dropped the ball and this army is suffering. I hope their codex helps them but know G dubbs, DG players will be suffering.

  • @bradmoshenko7733
    @bradmoshenko7733 Před rokem

    Luka im not through this yet but your rolls are much better than last game. One question....whats the point of the tek thats with the lychguard?

  • @ImaNecron
    @ImaNecron Před rokem

    Pretty sure there’s a rule for bringing back models, and you can’t chain out.

  • @gerynyan
    @gerynyan Před rokem

    Now I am wondering, because he is using a chaos chosen as a plague marine, is that allowed??

  • @sercoachshowsoffpathfinder3313

    Realized afterwards that I messed up boilblight

    • @D-Z321
      @D-Z321 Před rokem +3

      Thin your paint too. The paint coats are so thick that it’s obscuring some of the model details. Just add a little water to thin… 😢

    • @FarseerB1rdy
      @FarseerB1rdy Před rokem +1

      And didn't make Flayed ones take Battleshock after Plagueburster shot at them. Doh! We all do it mate, it's not the end of the world.

    • @sercoachshowsoffpathfinder3313
      @sercoachshowsoffpathfinder3313 Před rokem +2

      @@D-Z321 Sadly I didn't like an old paint scheme so most of these models are stripped and repainted and lost some details in the stripping process

    • @lokisrun
      @lokisrun Před rokem +1

      You made the critical error or thinking that a DG stratagem could be good without some bizarre conditions on it :P

  • @skarnak1
    @skarnak1 Před rokem

    tachyon arrow is one use only. the orb is not. the ressurection orb is far better.

  • @Taylor-vy7ff
    @Taylor-vy7ff Před rokem +1

    Really gotta love how bad the Tachyon Arrow has been for several editions. Like, they could have at least made it Indirect, or Precise and [Anti-Character 2+] or something. It's sooooo bad.
    Nobody is taking it over the res orb.

  • @thomasgrant1180
    @thomasgrant1180 Před rokem

    Luka regarding the protocol of the undying legion stray there is a big debate on that as it says you activate yout reanimation protocols and reanimate d3 so people are debating if wartiors get just d3 or get d6+d3

    • @Batrepjusz-ul4dx
      @Batrepjusz-ul4dx Před rokem

      IMO it's just the D3 / D3+1 from the Stratagem plus additional D3 from the Reanimator if nearby. D6/D3+3 only in command phases

  • @Solaxia
    @Solaxia Před rokem

    Dang those dg dice need to be retired lol. Roll infinite 1s except when vehicles blow up

  • @Havok.93
    @Havok.93 Před rokem +2

    Just got into Warhammer right before 10th came out.
    Bought 4,000 points worth of DG before ever playing a game.
    Now I don't even want to. At least they look cool, I guess.

    • @CakeorDeath1989
      @CakeorDeath1989 Před rokem

      I have a similar story to you.
      Decided to get back into Warhammer recently and chose DG as my army. Didn't buy 4,000 points worth, but did shell out a pretty penny for the OOP Forgeworld plague marine kits from eBay so that I could pad numbers of my squads out a bit (I don't want repeat models in my army list). The 10th edition has scuppered my plans.
      I could spend time and effort converting the models and painting them, but then again, I don't want to risk having all my work wasted if anything changes with DG in the future, like, for instance, if their weapon upgrades no longer become free. The project has been put on hold, despite me spending a, quite frankly, unnecessary amount of money on DG shite.
      Looks like I'm starting a Seraphon army until GW pulls their finger out.

    • @Mickekzon
      @Mickekzon Před rokem

      Hey man, don't despair! I started in the previous edition and I chose Necrons. We weren't hot at all but I still enjoyed my games and most importantly my models. Thing is, most of the time you gonna play with friends and chill people (at least you should!) so whatever the hyper-competitive people tell you on the internet doesn't matter. You can also play with homebrew rules if you feel like it. Most people want to have fun and if DG really is bad they'll let you bring extra units to counter balance or give you some sort of advantage (unified FNP6 for everyone or similar).
      Don't let the meta and people on the internet ruin your fun. I truly believe that metachasing is highway to regret. And even then, the meta changes all the time. Maybe Dg gets a glow up in their codex. Maybe they drop their points soon.
      I hope you find your enjoyment in the game and in your dudes. DG is pretty cool. I have a second army with AdMech so I'm in a similar situation than you. And I have zero problem with this. I still think AdMech looks cool. I'm still gonna have fun by painting them. I hope you have a nice day!
      PS: and don't forget that a lot of people will sell their minis. Here's a prime time to get cheap models you love!

    • @iisaka_station
      @iisaka_station Před rokem +1

      By the time you finish painting them, DG should get buffed. Don’t distress. You can always compensate with custom house rules as another commenter said

  • @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475

    Hoping Luka actually knows how to use the Monolith in this game opposed to last game.

  • @brandonwoods2985
    @brandonwoods2985 Před rokem

    Where do you get your terrain? For example that three story ruined building in the beginning near the Monoliths initial deployment.

  • @MARStheFORSAKEN
    @MARStheFORSAKEN Před rokem +2

    this game was painful to watch,the match up is already bad but then the dice rolls just turn the blade.

  • @beaulawrence2096
    @beaulawrence2096 Před rokem

    How are you guys getting a 1+ save?

  • @glados4765
    @glados4765 Před rokem +1

    I have no idea what's going on. I have no idea why this showed up. I read the books and even have my own Necron units I've painted just because I like the way they look. I have no idea how many of this game works.

  • @bakuchidancer
    @bakuchidancer Před rokem +1

    If you go by the rules monolith isn't blocking LOS to anything behind...

  • @AdolfCritler210
    @AdolfCritler210 Před rokem +2

    Man, they need a clarification for the Undying legions strat. I've seen it done 3 different ways in bat reps across different channels.

    • @daleodorito
      @daleodorito Před rokem

      You get target by an attack, you lose models cause of it, you regenerate; I don't see where you can misread this

    • @AdolfCritler210
      @AdolfCritler210 Před rokem

      @daleodorito for warriors specifically, the "activates reanimation protocols and ranimate d3 wounds" is unclear. If they wanted specifically d3, why put activates rp. If they just want it to trigger rp why include and reanimates d3. Is it a conjuctive and or an additive and? Is it reminder text or part of the rule? The English language is unlear that way and there are MUCH better ways they could have written that

    • @daleodorito
      @daleodorito Před rokem

      @@AdolfCritler210 I am pretty sure it just means that they trigger RP (activating any sinergy); and doing so, they regenerate D3/D3+1 instead of whatever they would normally

    • @AdolfCritler210
      @AdolfCritler210 Před rokem

      @daleodorito yeah, but do warriors get d6+1/d3+4 instead as stated on their data sheet? Usually data sheet rules override other rules. I'm not trying to argue what's right or wrong. I'm just stating they did not write the rule clearly, which is not uncommon for GW.

  • @philmg3533
    @philmg3533 Před rokem

    if you're not within or wholly within a ruin your unit cant see enemies and cant be seen by enemies or no?
    The Chaos Spawns at the beginning wouldnt be able to get shot at from the monolith?
    Correct me if im wrong please - kinda new to warhammer

    • @sercoachshowsoffpathfinder3313
      @sercoachshowsoffpathfinder3313 Před rokem +3

      Towering units can see and be seen through ruins now

    • @DerMitWieWoOhneNamen
      @DerMitWieWoOhneNamen Před rokem +3

      You are right in principle, BUT... the Monolith has the "Towering" keyword. Aircraft and towering models use true line of sight even if there's terrain feature between them. That goes for both sides, so in turn itself can also be seen behind terrain if there is line of sight

    • @Blight02
      @Blight02 Před rokem +1

      Also oddly enough if a model is partially within a ruin they can't see through it but can be see in it. The worst option. Never do this unless you absolutely have to.

    • @philmg3533
      @philmg3533 Před rokem +1

      Thanks for clarification ya'll :)

  • @cmcmillan22
    @cmcmillan22 Před rokem

    you really should get an Illuminor model for your warriors. it gives them a -1ap which is so critical with 10th

  • @Bhs1867
    @Bhs1867 Před rokem

    Why did you guys say overlord is leadership 4? Datasheet says leadership 6+. Am i missing something?

    • @Bhs1867
      @Bhs1867 Před rokem

      Oh I found the answer. They fucked up and used the named character overlord datasheet from Combat Patrol that has leadership 4+. This poor DG player doesn't need the necrons to have even stronger rules than they already do.

  • @FTWDanzig
    @FTWDanzig Před rokem

    You can no longer string the reanimations out (has to come back adjacent to a model that was there at the beginning of the phase). You really don't need to keep going on about that. I'm not even sure why it's such a big deal when it was such a weak rule in 9th. It was hard to live long enough to even use it, and it only really worked on warriors.
    edit: The reanimate after battleshock was clarified in FAQ, but it did need the clarification as the wording in the command phase section was too broad

  • @tomaszwoznica8561
    @tomaszwoznica8561 Před rokem

    You can use eternity gate every turn, and you can draw units that are engaged in melee - so you could take lychguard out of melee range, shoot target and charge back into melee (edit: this is wrong), since eternity doesnt count as fallback.

  • @AlyxSharkBite-2000
    @AlyxSharkBite-2000 Před rokem

    I had the best overwatch last weekend, I had a Knight Despoioer with 2 Rapid Fire Battle Cannons against a squad of 24 models. (Its Radpid Fire 2D6+3, Blast) had 35 dice on the pair of them then some stubbers and some havoc auto cannons. Ended up killing over 10 models on the overwatch. Best 0CP (chaos lord in term armor free strat) I ever spent

  • @FarseerB1rdy
    @FarseerB1rdy Před rokem +1

    Would you be allowed to bring those Lychguard back on Turn 1 instantly? It says if they are on the battlefield they are placed into Reserves? Wouldn't that stop them then being brought on Turn 1? Or am I being a total idiot and missing something 😂

    • @lukapavicevic335
      @lukapavicevic335 Před rokem +4

      It mentions going back into reserves before you put them back on the table for the purpose of the enemy being able to use the Overwatch Stratagem against anything coming out of the Monolith!

    • @FarseerB1rdy
      @FarseerB1rdy Před rokem

      ​@@lukapavicevic335 Thanks Luka, that makes sense mate!

  • @Marshmallox43
    @Marshmallox43 Před rokem

    i love that you guys are still keeping DG on the board since its one of my top 3. but the intro already made me sad because the is nothing durable about the DG anymore in any way shape or form. literally orks have become more durable than DG.... still i live seeing my stinkies around

  • @Solaxia
    @Solaxia Před rokem

    am i lost on something? I keep seeing people making cover saves vs flamers... dont all flamers ignore cover?

    • @SpaceUndies
      @SpaceUndies Před rokem

      You're right, they have the "ignores cover" rule

  • @halfmadfalcon2078
    @halfmadfalcon2078 Před rokem

    I love Luka, but I hope he knows that his “hypothetical rolls” do not actually reflect what someone “would have rolled” and are a complete waste of time. 😅

  • @innerforce7395
    @innerforce7395 Před rokem

    The DG units he picked are the worst. Chaos spawns... predator anihilator instead of haulers... typhus instead of lord of virulence with crawlers indirect combo...

  • @crossfire7078
    @crossfire7078 Před rokem

    All you have to do is roll 6s and win. It's easy..

  • @MARStheFORSAKEN
    @MARStheFORSAKEN Před rokem +12

    "typically durable" the deathguard are not durable anymore,they are bottem of the totam pole and the only army i own X(

    • @Doylepointsminis
      @Doylepointsminis Před rokem +4

      I feel your pain, I just started playing at the end of 9th and picked Death Guard.

    • @MARStheFORSAKEN
      @MARStheFORSAKEN Před rokem +3

      @@Doylepointsminis dont worry i have faith in GW we WILL get a buff i mean look at the deathwatch combo they solved that junk in 24 hours XD

    • @Doylepointsminis
      @Doylepointsminis Před rokem +1

      @@MARStheFORSAKEN I have faith! 😬

    • @DPD1
      @DPD1 Před rokem

      Don't worry plague brother! In casual/low-end competitive we fele pretty solid. Defintiely in need of a buff but you will have fun this edition!

  • @axxleseventeen1622
    @axxleseventeen1622 Před rokem

    "Suspect." You keep saying that word, but I don't think it means what you think it means. 🤔

  • @mattbentley2449
    @mattbentley2449 Před rokem +1

    You know what? That was really hard to watch...

  • @alex1428rod
    @alex1428rod Před rokem

    You’d think Luka would of remembered by now that Lychguard are T5.