Review! The PMC Result 6 ACTIVE Bookshelf Loudspeaker!
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2019
- A lot of the music and movies that we listen to have been mixed through a pair of PMC's. The big question is, how do a proper set of studio monitors sound when you use them for casual listening purposes? I explore that subject while evaluating the latest entry into the PMC lineup, the Result 6.
Intro music by: Aias Conor - "Lost Stories"
A BIG thanks goes out to Motet Distribution. They are the first Canadian distributor to provide me with a review sample! If you're in Canada, check them out here:
motetdistribution.com/
PMC Product Page:
pmc-speakers.com/products/pro...
A great written review of the Result 6 (no affiliation):
www.soundonsound.com/reviews/...
Reference products that were used for the review:
iFi Audio Pro DSD
AMD CD-777 SE
Parasound JC2BP
Great review. You always do a great job of describing the sound.
Once again a top review.
Please keep on keeping on.
Great idea Sean. Very interesting. Very well done on the review. 👍👍👍
PMC is the first manufactured speakers I have heard that really can play clean and at some higher volume without breaking down but it was the larger "home" version with TL-line box, but I have studio acting speakers my self therefore i guess it's simple to like these!
I am sure this is the best review about studio monitors on CZcams.
By the way, I own a pair of monitor speakers too. They are the Jbl Control One Outdoor which costed me $100 LOL.
Man if I buy another pair of speakers that you review, my wife won't let me watch your channel anymore! LOL Great review as always!
Hi Sean, thank you for a great review as always. Speakers (not necessary monitors) that sound good at low listening volume, what a great subject... I think lot of us would be very interested to have your opinion on this one
PMC speakers are awesome. I had the original OB1's. Best Ive ever had by far.
So informative ... Nice cabs for sure... Cheers to ears.
Thanks! And yep, I believe they are HDF cabs. May have forgotten to mention that in the review.
Excellent speakers. I've had these in a hi-fi set up driven by an Audiolab DAC/preamp more or less since their launch. They are both clean and musical, and I have no issues with their power - I actually leave the PMC's (at zero gain on their settings) with 20db in-line attenuators to avoid overstretching the attenuation on the Audiolab. If you already have a fully balanced DAC and pre-amp there are significant benefits to taking a separate power amplifier out of the equation and connecting to your speakers with a single XLR cable.
The big monitors they make are wonderful.
Hi thank you very much for this very nice and excellent review of a great pair of speakers. I am intrigued by the speakers cabinet design in general. My feeling is that the side emissions are much lower in level than front baffle emissions and much less impacting on the overall sound. The secret for me is in the design and construction of the front baffle and in the movement of the cabinet as a whole. I have noticed that even just placing a weight on a speaker can have a remarkable impact on sound because add mass to the cabinet. All these facts intrigue me so much. Thanks a lot again, gino
I forgot to mention that the cab material is HDF and not the standard MDF. This stuff barely resonates, even when bass is pumping away. Very impressive.
@@ZeroFidelity Hi thanks a lot for the very kind and helpful reply. Great monitors indeed. Thanks again, gino
10:40 What are the other less than 3 speakers you can live with for desktop listening?
Great review again. :-) Thank you. (/from Germany)
Not sure if these are in the USA, but I've had extended home sessions with PMC Fact 12 and Twenty-five 26 speakers. If they fit your budget and you're not faint of heart then these are epic speakers. If it's on a recording they'll bring it out have no fear. They're uncannily realistic and all together quite extraordinary. PMC have the T-line design off to a fine art. I would love to hear their Ffenestria (meaning windows) speakers!!!!
BTW their COR (meaning choir or dwarf in Welsh or heart) analog amp is in the same league as well. It's a class A/B amp that's full of transparency and musicality.
N.B. I HAVE NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER TO PMC.
Ah, somebody with first-hand experience with PMC! Yep, many of their products are versatile and will show you what's really going on. When everything is cookin', the experience is pretty stellar! Hope you get a chance to experience the Result 6 one day.
Yes, you are right Sean, one does not usually see audio playback gear reviewers tackle pro sound. What I found interesting is that I use pro near-field monitors on my desktop PC. I use them for both general playback (CZcams, game, whatever) and for audio editing applications. For that I want and need speakers that are as close to neutral as possible and revealing.
The shocker to this though is the price of these PMCs! I run KRK R6 monitors and the only difference is that they have unbalanced RCA jacks, balanced 1/4 inch input and the obligatory balanced XLR inputs. They also have in addition to a click-feel volume control in dB markings, they also have a high frequency level adjust knob. The only other difference is the woofer/main driver is made of woven aramid fiber (Kevlar). Everything else is the same except the price. My KRKs were 10 times less than the PMCs.
Good on ya Eric! KRK has been offering great products at affordable prices for a long time. That said, there's a reason why those KRK's are ten times less. Those PMC's are in a completely different league. It's like going from a 19' Corolla hatch to a 19' Camaro 2SS.
Hey Sean.. I hope you could review the ESS Speaker AMT 6” series some day. It’s on Massdrop right now.. Efficient small TL towers with large AMT Heil tweeters.
I tried to pack so much info into this review that I left out a few important details about the Result 6's. So to those of you who are interested, here is what I left out:
* The Result 6 cabinet's are made of HDF. Not your run-of-the-mill MDF.
* PMC stands for Professional Monitor Company.
* The midrange on the Result 6 is f***ing fantastic. Walk-through transparency meets excellent tone and scale. I'd put it right up there with the LS 3/5a in this regard.
* The treble is going to hinge on the gear that you use. Use bright gear, you'll get bright sound. Use neutral gear, you'll get a bit of sparkle without brigthness. Use rolled off gear, and the top end will be pretty smooth. This is a "You get what you put in" kinda speaker.
* 3k may be a lot of coin, but when you compare the PMC's to their peers, you'll quickly realize how damned good they are for the cash. It was my bad for not mentioning this outright in the review. I also wish I had the other products on hand, so I could show them in frame to help validate this notation.
* PMC won an "Emmy", not a "Grammy". Thanks for pointing out the error, Stringernews1.
I enjoyed this review, being a PMC owner myself. I am a musician too, but the amount of money I make (zilch!) from my music wouldn’t justify the expense of the the Result 6. Instead I use PMC Twenty5.23’s which are the smallest passive floor stander in their domestic range. With Logic on the iMac I feel I can mix down reasonably successfully in that if the Rega Elicit-R amp/PMC sound good, then the music will sound at least acceptable through the built in speakers of eg an iPad. This hasn’t always been my experience and I’d hoped in your review of the Results that you’d touch on the accuracy of these speakers from a music creator’s point of view. Any nearfield monitors are the wrong choice for traditional Hi-Fi set ups except perhaps in a very narrow room where it’s impossible to get a far enough away listening position. It’s hard to imagine someone spending £3k just to listen to music at their desktop. The Result 6’s are a professional bit of kit designed to work in a studio or music production environment.
Where did you get your diffusion panels?
Great review. Questions 1, can you slide the rubber loops around? 2, the 4 holes in the back are for mounting them on brackets, right?
Guess what speakers I have on my desktop watching this video right now? Hint: something very similar to the PMCs.
Btw, that should be noy-trik, not new-trik.
Signed - a pedantic individual.
1) Nope. 2) Yep!
Any chance of a Parasound Hint 6 review forthcoming?
The goal is to get my review of the Hint 6 uploaded soon. It's all a matter of whether or not I can fit the project into an extremely jammed out schedule. Due to the price and complexity of the Hint 6, I'd rather not rush the situation. Still.. soon. Hopefully. :D
What is your opinion about solving the problem of connecting a 4-ohm impedance speaker to an amplifier that only drives 8-ohm speakers by adding a 4-ohm resistor connected in series with the speakers?
If the speaker in question has very, very minimal voltage requirements, this could work. Otherwise, adding a 4 ohm resistor will dramatically decrease the output from the amp to your speakers. This can negatively impact how both the speakers AND the amp perform. While I won't pretend to be thoroughly educated on this particular subject, my opinion is that if you find yourself in this position - it's best to either get a different set of speakers, or to get an amp that's capable of safely fueling them.
Great Review The British certainly are famous for making some great monitors. Would love to hear your thoughts on some other British monitors like the new ProAc M100's, the Rogers LS3/5a 70th Aniversary or even ATC's SCM11"s or their SCM19"s. :-)
I have SCM-11 on my desk right now and would like to see them reviewed also. I also use a Totem Storm sub with them.
Thanks. Would love to review any of those speakers. I'm sure they'd be great. :)
@@Taffy84 Used to have the 'Storm'. Great lil' sub!
Hey, nice to see a review of 1. a powered speaker, and 2. a "pro" model. Like Christmas came early for me! Well, almost. If it had been a 3-way design, then I would have needed my fainting couch. ;)
PMC are definitely a cut above the likes of Focal, Genelec, Mackie & Yamaha. People who have never been in a tape-based recording studio, or have not experienced true full-range speakers often fail to grasp that the little meter bridge speakers never were intended to give faithful sound reproduction _or_ to sound very good. The whole idea was to simulate a cheap, crappy stereo that most record buyers would have. If the aim is to sound cheap, what better way than to make 'em cheap. A lot of highly valued small "studio" speakers are made very cheaply.
In my business there's a joke that slapping the word "broadcast" onto a pro video camera can add a digit or two to the price tag. The same can be said about little cheap speakers with "studio monitor" slapped on them. PMC are not mass-producers of cheap speakers like many other brands. Their 3-way designs have used the same ATC SM75-150S midrange driver that my ATC speakers use, though it looks like PMC have switched vendors on recent models. There's nothing quite like a hand-made speaker from a little town in England. Biggleswade even sounds like it comes straight from a Harry Potter book. If sound is your passion, you must own at least one pair of English-made speakers in your life. (Linn are Scottish, so they don't really count.)
The good news is that with Brexit, the GBP is as low as it's ever been, and may soon dive lower. So now is a great time to invest in the good stuff if you have the money to spend. If Brexit ends badly, small UK companies like PMC may have trouble getting parts, and may be forced to halt production, perhaps for good.
One correction, it seems that PMC have an Emmy, not a Grammy.
Dammit. You're right. I should follow those award ceremonies more closely as they all mean damn near the same thing to me. :D Meanwhile, I totally agree re: Focal, Genelec, Mackie, etc.. PMC is the real deal. Trying to convey that to a crowd that's never heard a proper set of monitors before is insanely difficult.
@@ZeroFidelity here in Japan PMC sells loads of speakers to end consumers. Prolly because so many companies charge a huge premium for their products here. （Over the West）
How do they get good performance from class D?
strained review, Sean. Looks like a lot of work. 3K wow.... lots of option for great speakers.
I would like to know what are you thinking about Fostex GX100 Limited or Fostex GX100BJ?
Since you touch the base with PMC's those Fostex are HiFi speakers but I like to hear your opinion about it... Thanks!
P.S. I thinking to get GX100 Limited's
Hey Radomir. I don't have an opinion about those speakers as I haven't heard em'. They look interesting though!
@@ZeroFidelity Maybe one of yours next reviews!
This is the only review I was able to find: 6moons.com/audioreviews2/fostex/1.html
Which subwoofer would you recommend to pair with pmc result 6?
Which other 3 speakers you would say the same?
Great question. Alright, so only two speakers come to my mind at this very moment.
As of now, my top choice for desktop listening goes to the Harbeth P3ESR. I'm sure there are other LS3/5a-type loudspeakers that I'd hold in equal regard if I spent more time with them. That said, the P3's have been my top choice for the better part of 10 years.
Moving on, my other choice is... believe it or not...the Pioneer BS21. Not the 22. Why? Because this is my "fallback" option in case I get rocked by financial hardships. They have an enjoyable presentation that works well in the desktop environment. Plus, they once sold for around 35 bucks, new. Tough to beat that!
I'll let you know when I come up with the third. Who knows, maybe I'll let the Result 6 slide into that spot if I come up with nada.
Thank you! Actually I did guess you would mention Harbeth for nearfield. Further more I thought you would pick Buchardt‘s s400 for midfield.
@@DigitalPhilosophers - Haha. The S400's are sweethearts and would likely get my vote for midfield performance. Particularly when it comes to monitors at and around their price point.
@@ZeroFidelity where do ls50W's rank?
@@ryanchenoweth5673 Nowhere. Mostly because I haven't heard the W's. :)
You mention that you have 2-3 speakers that you would think are "end game" speakers for the desktop environment - What are the other 2-3? Are the S400's up there?
The Result 6's are what I'd call an 'end game' solution for many desktop listening enthusiasts. See my response to 'Digital Philosophy's question, as I laid out everything en' detail there. :)
@@ZeroFidelity Thanks! Always interesting to hear commentary from someone who has experience with so many speakers out there. I'm looking for a great desktop solution for my office (sitting just under 1 meter away from the speakers). I just bought a used pair of LS50 Wireless Speakers and they do sound great but as always.. wonder if others would be better. The S400 would probably not be the best in that application given how close I am sitting unfortunately - would love a pair of those.
@@free5sole It sounds like you're budget is in a nice sweet-spot. It all hinges on what you like about the LS50w's and what you wish was better.
Great review my man. Not for me, but I'll definitely show this video to my friends that do studio work. Even though they'll probably not care, because they've always used brand X, and will probably always use brand X. And don't seem to care about these things as much as us HiFi nuts do. 🤪
That being said. If I had money to throw around. I would definitely buy these to play with for a while, just to see what a good active studio monitor sounds like. I basically listen near field anyway. Not quite, but almost. Just because of lack of space. So these would work great in my room.
Too bad they're not closer to 1 grand, then 3. I like the idea of having less boxes, and am already running a class D (Allo Volt+ Stepped Attenuator) in my digital rig. I'm actually thinking of building a dual mono ICEPower amp anyway, now that Parts Express has them at a reasonable rate with power supply (that powers 2 modules) included. Pretty hard to beat that setup for the money, even if you went with used gear.
You did say that's what these have right? ICEPower? When you look at the price of these. You can basically take a few hundred, to a thousand or so, off of it. Just in what you're saving not having to buy the amps. Which makes them even more tempting, but that 3 grand is just too much on one piece of gear for me, even if it's really more then that.
Maybe you could just let me borrow them for a week? 🙏 🤗 😇
🤣🤣🤣 🍻✌️
haha Nice try! Actually, for 3g's, the Result 6 is quite impressive. If anything, it makes me more of a critic of PMC's hi-fi lineup. Especially since I know what they are capable of when they put their minds to it.
@@ZeroFidelity I totally think the price is more then fair. Especially considering all the extra little details they add, and the amplifiers too. Just out of my personal price range is all. I would seriously try these out, if it weren't. I really like the design overall, even the driver choices. I'm a big fan of paper woofers, and soft dome tweeters. Heck, I even like how they look, and they are definitely a design that many may find polarizing IMO. Who knows. Maybe I'll find a pair on the used market sometime in the future. ✌️
@@amb3cog It's all good! If I come across a situation regarding the Result 6's, I'll let you know. :)
@@ZeroFidelity Thanks man. 😊
Have a great week. ✌️
Both PMC and ATC have some great speakers. A properly designed TL will have some of the best bass you’ve ever heard
I will add the Amphion and Dutch & Dutch
@@codex6594 I haven’t had the opportunity to hear either of those and I have to admit that I’m not familiar with Geithain at all
@@codex6594 yes they do look impressive from what I’ve read about them. Wish I knew somebody who had a pair. I would love to hear how the Cardioid bass sounds
can someone compare the Result 6 to the FOCAL Twin ?
PMC muuucch better
Unless I missed it I don't think you got into the woofer material like you mentioned you would. Maybe a video that discusses different materials would be a good topic.
Have you ever listened to a pair of PMC Twenty5.22 stand speakers? I thought they sounded sensational in the showroom. They’re more expensive than I initially wanted to spend but I think I’m going to save my money.
Can't say I've spent time with the Twenty 5.22's, but I will say... you should do it!
I own a pair, they are excellent
1. How far back does "near field" encompass? Typically in a studio, how far away would these speakers be from the listener?
2. What about warmup? This is something I'd like to hear addressed in more reviews. How long after being turned on does the product reach maximum fidelity? I don't even know what is typical. I know my own electronics vary in terms of warmup time.
Good questions. Getting right to it:
1) I define near-field as 3ft or closer. 2) To be honest, I didn't experience much of a 'break-in' with these products. What they sounded like after 100 hours of use was similar to what I experienced fresh out of the box.
At last someone is reviewing that brand XD. Now why don't you review a model of the 25 range pleeeeeease? XD
For the price great low end is not enought , but for professional application is important to be flat .Frequency from 2kHz to 5 kHz define most crisp vocal impression . Problem is that in 2 kHz crossover area they not so flat so they not so great at this point and high frequency are boosted too much.
Since you brought it up. What are those boxes on your wires?
Fancy network boxes. They supposed to make sure that what goes into the cable exits the cable without change. Is it all hi-fi hocus pocus? Does it work? I can't tell you. What I will say is that I've had these cables for 10 years now, and they are a consistent variable that I don't feel like changing anytime soon.
@@ZeroFidelity well if they've lasted 10 years in your constantly changing system you've got your money's worth outta them. So they must have some kind of op amp set up inside for common mode rejection. or a servo system for comparative correction?
@@chrisvinicombe9947 I paid nada for em'... so yep, I'd say I got my monies worth! :D To my knowledge, there are no op-amps inside of the box. Cannot recall exactly whats going on in there. Will just say: Elves.
@@ZeroFidelity What type of cable are they? Regular RCA? What type of adapter are you using if so?
I'm very curious, because I'm having trouble remembering seeing RCA's with a box like that, although I've certainly seen speaker cables like that I think, and have probably seen these too but don't remember. I guess I'm just basically very curious, because I don't even know what these do, and of course....
"What's in the box!?!?!?" 🤣 🤣 🤣
@@amb3cog I just so happen to have a set of XLR's from the MIT CVT series at the place... so I used those. Straight from the pre-out on the Parasound JC2BP. :)
@Zero Fidelity great job bro! and Im glad i didn't get them last year! lol Hope you can get your hans on the Kii Audio Three loudspeaker system or the new 2019 HAGEN ABSOLUT SYSTEM. ;-)
The PMC's are badass speakers, but you gotta know what you're getting into with them. I've only heard the Kii's at shows. Would love to spend some personal time with them one day.
Yes Adam Audio speakers
Any philharmonic speaker reviews yet?
Nope. I certainly won't say no if they reach out!
Dennis is having some health issues and Philharmonic isn't taking any orders right now. If/when he returns, it looks like he will only be making the BMR monitors and the big Phil 3s.
@@Gary_M Thanks for sharing Gary. I really do hope Dennis ends up on the winning side of the health battle.
I dunno Z. Three grand? You and I (and everybody else) know that for that kind of scratch you can take your pick of quite a few superior sounding speakers. They might fit in a studio situation but for the average desk top they seem too big. Still, that was a nice change of pace. Thanks!
I know three grand is a lot, but I'm not sure I agree about it being easy to pick 'superior' sounding speakers. I'd have to be shown an amp/speaker setup that is equally as transparent yet still enjoyable. The Result 6's are already regarded as among the best of the best at their price. So if I can find a set of hi-fi speakers, along with an amp, that will do what these can do in the nearfield - then I'll be sure to let you all know. Bonus points of its designed and assembled in its country of origin.
Let's do the math. PMC speakers $3000. Parasound JC 2 BP $4500. So, I have to spec out a system with $7500 to spend. And this is not including any snake oil parts and pieces that were a part of your review. The first thing I'm doing is placing an order at Audio Advisor for the Parasound Halo HINT 6 integrated amp for $3000. According to my computer calculator I have $4500 to spend on speakers. With that kind of money I could get some very serious sound. I could even fly to DENMARK, vacation a bit, and maybe find a place over there that sells incredible speakers and bring them back with me. Also, at that price point I could easily pick from a host of speakers that have few, if any, caveats. And I would be remiss if I didn't mention that the studio aesthetics of the Result 6's would be rather out of place in most home environments. I leave exactly where I started. I dunno, Z.
@@mikehanks1399 Better check your math :) You would have $3000 to spend...these are active monitors, as Sean said you would need to find an amp/speaker setup that's comparable. Adding the price of an amp to the price of active monitors then looking for a setup for the total of those two amounts makes no sense.
Better check yours. He was running everything through his Parasound preamp.
@@mikehanks1399 - The Parasound / AMR combo is what I used in the hi-fi application. The iFi DSD PRO is what I used in the desktop application (which is what the Result 6 was designed for).
i'd suggest front ports over rear ports anytime
1 ) usually ports make the bass and the driver is just intermidiary ( and midrange in this case )
2 ) rear ports ( and passive radiators ) need at least 15cm of distance from wall , which some dont have the space to put the desk like that
oh my!! If only I could afford this monitor caliber then my mixes would break throught hahaha!
Are these speakers better than Adan Audio speakers?
You mean Adam?
thats for you to decide this verse the a77x in the same price range yes, unless you record rock/metal
PMC = Professional Monitor Company iirc :) So it rather makes sense their monitors, even the least expensive ones, make such a good impression.
Their distribution in the US is rather limited, and seems to tilt toward true professional distributors...sooo...not Guitar Center :) And if anyone thinks these are expensive, don't look up prices for their bigger speakers :)
Thanks Jeffrey. Yeah, their US distribution is geared almost exclusively towards the pro market. With the right forces in play, I think PMC would have no problems entering the hi-fi market as well. It simply requires the right kind of push.
Why do studio monitors almost always have a built in amps?
Because Active Speaker have more Pros compare to the Passive Stuff
Because the manufacturer can control the sound coming from the amp as opposed to you paring your own amp and changing the intended sound from the factory
The atc passive monitors look like they would make good hifi speakers also.
Yeah. I've heard the big ATC's, but I haven't spent much time with the lil' ones from their lineup. Maybe someday. :)
atc scm12 pro wth great amp will eat these for breakfest.. cant believe they went for ice modules.. it shows they dont know their shit
@@lextr3110 If the SCM12Pro's are anything like the SCM19's, then I'd say.. nope. ATC's are nice, but they will in no way "eat" the Result 6's for breakfast. Depending on what you're after, it may be the other way around.
@@ZeroFidelity scm12 pro were created 10years after scm19 tho.. but hey maybe you are right.. if not there is dynaudio core 7.. hard to trust any who use ice modules hehe why do you think you dont like the highs.. maybe they are using the newers modules but the older one suck.. nothing like my nikko alpha 230
also scm19 had many many revamping thru the years i think.. so depends what years was the one you listened too
@@lextr3110 The last time I spent quality time with the SCM19's was back in 2017. Great speakers. Always liked ATC. As for Ice modules: I'm more of a class A/B guy myself, but I've spent enough time around hi-fi to know that it's wise to keep an open mind. There's a lot more to sound than just the amp. That's just one of the many spokes on the proverbial hi-fi wheel.
For example: Focals SM9's, which are notably more expensive speakers, are very tilted upwards and have a much more distinct way of doing things than the less-expensive Result 6's. This is in spite of their use of a Class A/B amp. By comparison, the Result 6's top end is almost tame and subjectively, I prefer the midrange performance of the Result 6's.
It almost sounds like your going to keep them.
Man, I don't even have time to make those decisions anymore!
PMC RESULTS 6 VS GENELEC 8341A ????
PMC Result 6 vs PSI audio A17M ?
thanks for the review :)
so this speaker works as advertised, as a monitor. would like to see sealed box of course, need subwoofer to do proper sound editing so ports dont help at all.
The roll-off of this speaker (as well as any other transmission line) is pretty steep. The good news is that it's easy to tell *exactly* where you should integrate the sub.
just having more sound damping material inside the box when you have a sealed box does wonders, the woofer cone is pretty acoustically transparent. that matters when the woofer goes up to 2000hz.
i have seen some transmission line with heavy use of absorption material all the way to the box opening, but most boxes with openings have barely anything.
if you listen to the output of the box opening im sure will will notice that its not the purest of sound coming out off there, and it also is not in phase with the woofer and interferes a bit because of it.
a steep roloff is a slight benefit, but then a monitor is all about accuracy.
PWM SWITCHING AMP. mmmm. High fidelity. PMC use class D amps. I guess they are as good as class A/B judging from the ACCURACY, DETAIL and safisfying listenable TRANSPARENCY made OBVIOUS in this review. Excellent review BTW, reflects the exacting sound quality of class D amplification.
There are some folks who believe that Class A/B will always outperform Class D. That's not the case. It never was the case. It never will be the case.
I'd like to know what music you're listening to and what the speakers do well with what you're listening to.
When I say they do well with everything, I mean.. I haven't found a genre of music that they suck with. At least in the nearfield environment. Ariana Grande, Post Malone, Billie Eilish, Led Zepp, Pink Floyd, Malher, Incubus, Killswitch Engage, Dave Matthews Band, Loreena McKennitt, Ella Fitzgerald, Duke Ellington, Stan Getz, Marshmello, Marylin Manson, Dave Brubeck, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Chopin, Malher, J.S Bach, the list goes on, and on, and on.
@@ZeroFidelity Well, I don't mean a list. More like highlights. "the high notes from Ariana Grande were especially...high.." that kinda thing.
@@trekjudas I hear you. Normally touch on things like that in my reviews, but this one was ridiculously difficult to navigate. This is one of those rare times when I wish I followed a script, as that would have made life a sh*t load easier. The funny thing is that I actually performed one take where I went over the information that you're after. I ended up discarding it because I spent over 10 minutes talking about their performance in a desktop environment - and I'm not sure about you, but I thought that was way.. way too much.
@@ZeroFidelity I understand. This is also a new media so its unfair of me to expect you to follow the same style as Stereophile or the Absolute sound.
@@ZeroFidelity It's Alice in Chains :( I had a friend who thought the band name was Allison Chains heh.
I stalk the PMC website on a weekly basis, because that's the closest I'll get to ever being able to afford their products.
$3,000/pair are they worth it.
remember. they are powered. so yes they are worth it.
@@peartfaldo PMC speakers are most likely to overpriced and overrated in my opinion. For me, DIY speakers are more fun as a hobby and save heaps of money.
oW MY GOD!, a normal powercord! lol
Out of all the names they could come up with, this is the result...oh wait
So to sum up, these are professional tools and if you buy them for anything else, results are not guaranteed.
Not living room friendly speakers as far as in the decor friendly department.
There home line is a lot more decor friendly
why no toe in on the Harbeths ? It always baffles me people set up their speaker on desktop this way unless there is something wrong them because it ruins the imaging and sound stage.
Interesting review, these days I only listen to studio monitors nearfield, it gets rid of the nasty room effects and find it much cleaner/pleasing, better imaging etc. I will never ever go back to towers in a room and all the sound pollution that brings.
I also think this monitor idea of being sterile or not musical is a myth these days. There are so many options with so called "studio monitors", just like HI Fi, the distinction is somewhat of an artificial notion IMHO that people made up over time from old times. I heard plenty sterile non musical Hi Fi speakers too.
Yep. There are plenty of ways to enjoy the listening experience. To answer your question about the Harbeths:
I don't toe them in because they use a metal dome tweeter, and in the nearfield environment, I find it annoying when the sound of that tweeter is firing directly into my ear. Pointing them out into the room, in a desktop rig, results in superior driver integration and a less forward presentation - which is more in line with my preferences. That said, I will use a generous amount of toe-in for regular hi-fi listening sessions.
As always, people are free to set up their speakers as they like.
@@ZeroFidelity Thanks for the reply, Whenever I have do that I find the imaging/ spatial queues are so compromised. Sorry, I am a stereo and sound stage freak and notice the slightest movement from a nearfield speaker that imaging is less good/immersive then the near ideal position. Small deviations are okay but nothing like what I saw in your video. I would try toeing them back in and perhaps reduce with EQ in the top end to see if that helps at all, but that's just my 02.
Interestingly I have focals with some sort of metal or alloy tweeter inverted tweeter (forget what it is called) but have no problem with fatigue in them. Grado headphones like the sr80 kill me in 20 minutes though to put it in perspective, that's harsh stuff and sibilance.
Class d amp.
Funny how easily audiophile say that studio monitors are boring...when they are the monitors that were used for the music you listen .... audiophiles prefer to put band-aid in the music or hype the sound to believe then that is more "musical" and real ...kind of ironic... but I appreciate Zero Fidelity review them
studio monitors are designed to be boring..... you have it all f*cked up.
@@nofood1 learn to read, music is made in studio monitors.... you audiophiles think Studio monitors are boring.....
@@bluematrix5001 I'm a producer myself lol, studio monitors are not made to enjoy music but for CRITICAL listening... 🤦♂️
@@nofood1 and who said that? Not me.... also studio monitors can be fun, just audiophiles most likely are into extremes... and they hype the music a lot
also...GET A RECORD PLAYER!!!
I've had one for years. :D
@@ZeroFidelity You never put it on camera.
Ouch that was a really ugly little speaker.
ice module highs suck balls.. im sure with better amps they would be truer to the source
well, it cant be that bad, since the sound quality came out good.
@@sudd3660 then they suck just one ball... hhahha
personally i only have 3 class d amps in my house, one integrated amp from nad, that ran pretty hot even on idle and to power amps, one icepower and one ucd from hypex, hypex had problems with hiss so i only kept the icepower. maybe i try ncore later at one point.
from my little experience they sound pretty much the same, heard some forums clash about the same topic about class d modules, hypex seems like the best sounding choice but sadly did not work in my house.
bla,bla a kolumna nie gra
try before you buy these in your room never take any review as gospel .
Unless it's a Zero Fidelity review. Then you can buy the audiobook version of his gospel at >insert shopify link here
@@ZeroFidelity hehehe, good response.
@@ZeroFidelity they might be to some ears never buy a speaker because some says it's great .
@@dannywoods3928 it is for an Audiofool and not an Audiophile .
thanks for your revews, this one, isn't my cup of tea....!
Have you considered that your room is the one that's problematic? Normally, a higher end studio monitor (like this one) is pre-calibrated as being transparent, and relatively very flat frequency response. Maybe you should check and fix your room's problems first, then redo this review. FYI: a bad sounding room will ruin a good sounding speakers.
Transparency and linearity aren't the same thing. For example, you can find some relatively inexpensive actives that measure relatively flat. At least in an anechoic environment. But if you were to compare one of those products to something that isn't perfectly flat, like the Result 6, you'll find that the Result 6 will nonetheless resolve information in a much more revealing and honest way. Particularly outside of anechoic chambers and in real-world environments. It's one of the more common misconceptions that I see floating about in both the pro and hi-fi world. Oh, and to answer your question:
While the acoustics of a listening space will always play a roll in any evaluation, my results fell right in-line with the manufacturers measured performance of the Result 6. My comments about the bass, at least when used in a traditional hi-fi setup, was partly influenced by the room. However, what I described is exactly how transmission-line cabinets (usually) behave.
@@ZeroFidelity "Transparency and linearity aren't the same thing."
~I disagree.
I think we have different "transparency" definition/description.
IMHO Being transparent (as a system) is to add nothing (or VERY minimal interference/distortion/coloration) to your original signal so you can hear your original signal as it were recorded. That is transparency to me. Transparent to me is a very objective parameter that can be measured. These are what I consider as values to indicate transparency:
1. Total Harmonic Distortion (THD) of the system: Lower = Better.
2. Frequency response of the system: Flatter = Better.
3. Phase response: Flatter/Coherent = Better.
All of these parameters can be measured - and then tuned. BeingTransparent is (most of the time) also Linear by nature.
"But if you were to compare one of those products to something that isn't perfectly flat, like the Result 6"
~IMHO I doubt a speaker system in this class isn't "perfectly" flat. Yes I understand that a flat frequency response is not flat to within a dB on all frequency range, but realistically - they are "as flat as a ruler".
"While the acoustics of a listening space will always play a roll in any evaluation, my results fell right in-line with the manufacturers measured performance of the Result 6. My comments about the bass, at least when used in a traditional hi-fi setup, was partly influenced by the room. However, what I described is exactly how transmission-line cabinets (usually) behave."
~I suspect that your room's acoustic performance is somewhat on the "bad" side of things. Rooms affects wide band frequency range, not just bass. A room too much reflection will muddle the highs - too dead, everything sounds lifeless. I don't know your room, but if I were you, I'd measure the room, just in case. If the room response "could be better", I'd treat it.
I don't know this speaker set personally, but I've listened PMC in the past, these speakers are very transparent and very linear. But I personally use a pair of ADAM AUDIO's S3X-H and an ADAM AUDIO's SUB24 in my main system. PMCs doesn't have the "life" that I get my from ADAM AUDIO set.
@@ZeroFidelity wow man, thats the best explanation i have ever heard!
theres a reason hifi guys have such a bad rep in the pro audio community, you have no idea what ur talking about lmao
well, those speakers are nearfield, to use them in a typical audiophile situation.....is a non sense
'even by studio monitor standards' - this is a HUGE mistake commonly made by 'audio people' - to assume that the reproduction equipment in studios is actually even COHERENT - you would be really really appalled to see what's in most mid and lower level PROFESSIONAL studios!