S75s, for sure. More life-like! I have a pair of S60s, I use them as side fills in my multichannel system - these are the only 2 out of the 9 speakers thatI have not built myself! However, I have replaced their tweeters with BGNeo3 planars, though, to match the other planars (and it also makes the treble more refined). I think there was only a minor crossover adjustment needed, if any (I have to check my notes) so it's all 100% reversible. Thank you for the video!
The front of those s-75 is a circular arc, and you'll have to sit in the centre of that circle, but when you do, they sound amazing. Owned the M100 and still own a set of S45-2, the latter needs new caps, but they are surely worth it!
yes I always try to be positioned in the center during my listening. I also own the s45 and I sold my M100, I changed all the capacitors by mundorf I strongly advise you because 40 years after that does not sound more like it should Thank you for your comment . czcams.com/video/1oXLVzSwoLc/video.html
I have the s75 now. Pd. $250 U.S., running them with my CX100s. Amazing sound, I love them, I guess that's all that matters. As long as it's pleasant to oneself!
Thank You for the video. I amb thinking of buying a Beovox pair of speakers. This video help me. I own a Bowers & Wilkins S685 s2 brut I need more deep and strenght without loosing detail.
Gonna get my set of S60's tomorrow, so excited! Had the S30's a long time ago and remember those being very dissapointing. The S60's should do a lot better!
Hi, how are you doing? How’s the restoration of the speakers going? Did you also re did the crossovers? Let me know if possible… all the best and keep the Jazz alive!!!!
I bought a pair of S60 for €81 Euro they look just like S75 and are very similar. I also like to find a pair of S75 I saw a pair sale for about €90 a while ago but it was long away from me.
The SEAS bass is the same as the Dynaco A25, revered for its wicked bass, so why not add an aperiodic membrane to this - underneath to be out of sight? I plan to do this soon and make available a parts kit maybe.
The older speaker features superior physical properties, gigantic membrane area firstly, not to mention, a 10" inch's ability to move vastly larger amounts of air in the lower octave, compared to the 5" of the B&W. These are physical laws, they apply just as much 40 years ago, as they do now. Depending on how well designed the crossover filter is in the older speaker, it would/should sound a lot better than the B&W 603. it baffles me, how expensive a pair of modern speakers only featuring 5" woofers is.. Such small woofers can't, and won't make 'hi-fidelity' they can't recreate the bottom and warmth of a Grand Piano or a Cello, Double bass. If you want a 10" woofer in a modern set of hi-fi speakers, you'd have to spend a fortune, and it makes no sense.
This is true for most of the time, but one must also take into account the clearance and quality of the woofer, some modern or old 10" move less air than two 6.5" and the size of the enclosure has a great importance too. for a large piano it is the large body size that makes the resonance, not the small string
because the market is driven by boomers and people over 40 who can't hear high frequencies well, so the all "audiophile "speakers are top heavy and bass is neglacted. You don't need a 10' woofer to hit listen to good bass these day, just buy B&O powered speakers they all move air above their pay grade...
Right on , It took me couple of years to understand this point. My question is if someone buy one of new speakers 5" and add two subwoofer of 10 or 12 " will they get the same quality sound ?!
@@parsiababaeian4098 not at all, subwoofers have nothing to do with hifi, even if you actually bought the B&W sub meant to be paired with the floorstander. You should get a modern hifi floorstander with no less than 8" Bass. 8" is where it all starts.
@@Lasse3 Thank You Tuii for your prompt response , I used to have a hifi system of SONY LBT V810 ( 1990's model With 12 inch woofer built in including 5 separate Dec, if you can google the model I will be really appreciate that ) and it was sounding great , I tried many different speakers in US but still not happy with any of them so far , I believe I should search for modern Hifi floorstand speaker as you mentioned to get similar sound .
I think it would be interesting to see how a different amp would be able to control those B&W's That's one thing you can never throw out. I've owned and still have so much equipment. When I had the time, I used to switch out amps to speakers, vice versa. You will be surprised to what a difference it makes sometimes. Granted that Marantz is relatively new, sometimes changing out capacitors in vintage equipment will make a difference as well. That goes for all of it.,
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very rare model seas tweeter peerless woofer very nice for small room , good stereo image and good price you can find the BeoMaster 1000 and BeoVox 1200 for 300 euro on ebay. but in a large living room the s45 or s75 will be more efficient.
I’m disagree, from my point of view Bang&Olufsen has more detail. You can ear it at the stocastic Sound of the strings of the bass. B&W has a more opaque sound.
I play piano and sax, B&W have a very different behavior from one amp to another and when the source is good they keep their softness but they remain very detailed! If you want faithful to reality you need studio speakers "JBL,Yamaha ... " but they will be tiring in the long run.like a real instrument but it's not necessarily what you want at home.
@@audio-tec9037 a real acoustic instrument(s) played by a pro will never be bad in my ears. If someone would pay for me a daily trip to a conservatory music concert in exchange for my audio system, I would do so in a heartbeat
My friend bought the speakers went he travels to Russia to give me a few years ago.he forgot to give the speakers tomorrow he brings the speakers and the original amplifier
@@souldoc123 As I said I never had the opportunity to listen to them, so you are probably right ... But sometimes a simple modification of crossover can have very good results.
Il problema dei video dimostrativi è legato al fatto che il fruitore (io) ascolta con le casse che ha a disposizione. Nel mio caso AR M1. Posso dire di preferire B&O forse per una "similitudine" con AR M1. Comunque complimenti. Saluti da Roma.
I’m listening to this again with BnO EX ear buds in the Bang and Olufsen are superior that base is too in yer face on the Bowers abd Wilkins don’t get me wrong the BW are super sharp but would I want to listen to them for several hours nope 👎
new is not always better. Have a beomaster 1000 over here and a very expensive sony e.s. amp system ............... 2 x 20 watts/ beomaster 3 times 140 watt sony..... beomaster: a lot of dynamics, super stereo, and perfect rounded sound, perfect stage places..... expensive sony: horrible sound ................ speakers: mirages 1090i
I am restoring a set of S75s now can't wait to have them done and in place.
Los speakers de la decada del setenta son lo mejor que se han fabricado. JBL, Klipsch, B & O, Pioneer, Marantz... etc. etc... Vintage 4Ever!!!
S75s, for sure. More life-like! I have a pair of S60s, I use them as side fills in my multichannel system - these are the only 2 out of the 9 speakers thatI have not built myself! However, I have replaced their tweeters with BGNeo3 planars, though, to match the other planars (and it also makes the treble more refined). I think there was only a minor crossover adjustment needed, if any (I have to check my notes) so it's all 100% reversible. Thank you for the video!
The front of those s-75 is a circular arc, and you'll have to sit in the centre of that circle, but when you do, they sound amazing. Owned the M100 and still own a set of S45-2, the latter needs new caps, but they are surely worth it!
yes I always try to be positioned in the center during my listening. I also own the s45 and I sold my M100, I changed all the capacitors by mundorf I strongly advise you because 40 years after that does not sound more like it should Thank you for your comment . czcams.com/video/1oXLVzSwoLc/video.html
I have the s75 now. Pd. $250 U.S., running them with my CX100s. Amazing sound, I love them, I guess that's all that matters. As long as it's pleasant to oneself!
Much better sounding Beovoxes, more alive, more depth in the sound. You feel the music instead of just hearing it.
Beautiful
Thank you
Thank You for the video. I amb thinking of buying a Beovox pair of speakers. This video help me. I own a Bowers & Wilkins S685 s2 brut I need more deep and strenght without loosing detail.
you should not be disappointed with beovox, maybe you will have to change the capacitors if you want to find the original sound of beovox
Bang and Olufsen despite its age.
Gonna get my set of S60's tomorrow, so excited! Had the S30's a long time ago and remember those being very dissapointing. The S60's should do a lot better!
yes the s30 do not compare to the s60, the s60 will give you a lot of satisfaction, I still have a pair of s60 and they are great
I have a pair of cx100s great sound from those little Titans. Looking for some S60s
Yes, that's the sound I'm looking for (s75)! Got a pair of s45-2! (also sound beautiful with warm profound richness). But s75....
I have s45 and s75, s45 is a very good speaker but the s75 is even warmer and more detail, it is incredible
@@audio-tec9037 opendrc da8 with s75 would be cool
I am restoring,,s75,and 45-s-2.I plan to run them together,all four,i have heard some do,and they say it sounds amazing,thanks
yes I replaced the capacitors with mundorf and I made some modification and the result is amazing
@@audio-tec9037 did you use same value on the caps,or did you go a little higer on the replecment caps,thanks
@@audio-tec9037 the mundorf capacitors that you installed, do you remember what values they have?
Those bang olufsen speakers sound pretty fantastic for the age!
Hi, how are you doing? How’s the restoration of the speakers going? Did you also re did the crossovers? Let me know if possible… all the best and keep the Jazz alive!!!!
I bought a pair of S60 for €81 Euro they look just like S75 and are very similar. I also like to find a pair of S75 I saw a pair sale for about €90 a while ago but it was long away from me.
The SEAS bass is the same as the Dynaco A25, revered for its wicked bass, so why not add an aperiodic membrane to this - underneath to be out of sight? I plan to do this soon and make available a parts kit maybe.
Wow the Bowers and Wilkins bass is tighter but I think the Bang and Olufsen sound more pleasing on the ear , the sound is softer the highs clearer .
Exactly, the bowers are more seductive at first but after several hours they are more tiring and less pleasant than the B&O
The older speaker features superior physical properties, gigantic membrane area firstly, not to mention, a 10" inch's ability to move vastly larger amounts of air in the lower octave, compared to the 5" of the B&W.
These are physical laws, they apply just as much 40 years ago, as they do now.
Depending on how well designed the crossover filter is in the older speaker, it would/should sound a lot better than the B&W 603.
it baffles me, how expensive a pair of modern speakers only featuring 5" woofers is.. Such small woofers can't, and won't make 'hi-fidelity' they can't recreate the bottom and warmth of a Grand Piano or a Cello, Double bass. If you want a 10" woofer in a modern set of hi-fi speakers, you'd have to spend a fortune, and it makes no sense.
This is true for most of the time, but one must also take into account the clearance and quality of the woofer, some modern or old 10" move less air than two 6.5" and the size of the enclosure has a great importance too.
for a large piano it is the large body size that makes the resonance, not the small string
because the market is driven by boomers and people over 40 who can't hear high frequencies well, so the all "audiophile "speakers are top heavy and bass is neglacted. You don't need a 10' woofer to hit listen to good bass these day, just buy B&O powered speakers they all move air above their pay grade...
Right on , It took me couple of years to understand this point. My question is if someone buy one of new speakers 5" and add two subwoofer of 10 or 12 " will they get the same quality sound ?!
@@parsiababaeian4098 not at all, subwoofers have nothing to do with hifi, even if you actually bought the B&W sub meant to be paired with the floorstander.
You should get a modern hifi floorstander with no less than 8" Bass.
8" is where it all starts.
@@Lasse3 Thank You Tuii for your prompt response , I used to have a hifi system of SONY LBT V810 ( 1990's model With 12 inch woofer built in including 5 separate Dec, if you can google the model I will be really appreciate that ) and it was sounding great , I tried many different speakers in US but still not happy with any of them so far , I believe I should search for modern Hifi floorstand speaker as you mentioned to get similar sound .
I think it would be interesting to see how a different amp would be able to control those B&W's That's one thing you can never throw out. I've owned and still have so much equipment. When I had the time, I used to switch out amps to speakers, vice versa. You will be surprised to what a difference it makes sometimes. Granted that Marantz is relatively new, sometimes changing out capacitors in vintage equipment will make a difference as well. That goes for all of it.,
Those new ones been broken in? Sound harsh
i like more the B&O ones
Yo tengo unos M 100 -2 y unos S45-2 y los amo... Me encantaria algun dia tener unos S-75 tambien ..
Это видео рассказывает как дать за щеку из прошлого😂😂😂 40 лет назад сделали лучше, более насыщенный и живой звук. В те года и качества звука такого не было какого сейчас добилась цифра… ЭТИ КОЛОНКИ БЕССПОРНО ОПЕРЕДИЛИ СВОЁ ВРЕМЯ !!!👍👍👍
это еще на вечеринку не позвали взрослых ребят M100, тогда был бы честный датский гэнг-бэнг
Hi! What can you say about Beovox 1200 !??? tweeter Seas 45 mm ???
very rare model
seas tweeter
peerless woofer
very nice for small room , good stereo image and good price you can find the BeoMaster 1000 and
BeoVox 1200 for 300 euro on ebay.
but in a large living room the s45 or s75 will be more efficient.
The S75 is more natural! ;)
Do you use the s75 as much? I have rp280fa and have a chance to get some s75.
the s75 are much more natural than the rt280 I prefer them,
I listen to them regularly with a tube amp it's a real pleasure
@@audio-tec9037 : Excellent choice, - I also have the S75 in the rare white edition !
I am hearing this through a MSI X99 audioboosted platform PC and an Marantz model 1070 amp on Philips 22RH487 Speakers.
nice song for sound demo. nice speakers. i think the b&w sound much better then vintage bang and olufsen. what mic do you use?
thanks ,yes the b&w are better in detail I use the Tascam DR-05
I’m disagree, from my point of view Bang&Olufsen has more detail. You can ear it at the stocastic Sound of the strings of the bass. B&W has a more opaque sound.
@@HifiBarcelona people nowadays delegate high frequency emphasis as detail. Maybe these guys haven;t heard real life chimes and/or cymbals
I play piano and sax, B&W have a very different behavior from one amp to another and when the source is good they keep their softness but they remain very detailed!
If you want faithful to reality you need studio speakers "JBL,Yamaha ... " but they will be tiring in the long run.like a real instrument but it's not necessarily what you want at home.
@@audio-tec9037 a real acoustic instrument(s) played by a pro will never be bad in my ears. If someone would pay for me a daily trip to a conservatory music concert in exchange for my audio system, I would do so in a heartbeat
Not even close. The B&W rock.
Gonna get a set of Radiothenika S90 from my friend
Very Nice! I have never managed to find them not too expensive I would love to listen to them.
My friend bought the speakers went he travels to Russia to give me a few years ago.he forgot to give the speakers tomorrow he brings the speakers and the original amplifier
@@audio-tec9037 s90?no way...its a trash sound..loud?yes,but no quality...
@@souldoc123 As I said I never had the opportunity to listen to them, so you are probably right ...
But sometimes a simple modification of crossover can have very good results.
@@audio-tec9037 nothing helps to s90..believe me...s90 good to make nervous neighbours...nothing else..
Il problema dei video dimostrativi è legato al fatto che il fruitore (io) ascolta con le casse che ha a disposizione. Nel mio caso AR M1. Posso dire di preferire B&O forse per una "similitudine" con AR M1. Comunque complimenti.
Saluti da Roma.
Molte persone hanno preferito anche i B&O che forse sono più neutri e più naturali dei Bowers&W. Grazie mille per il tuo commento.
S-75 is much better
The Beovox are better I can’t believe it … lol… I’m waiting for my S120 to arrive
the b&w sounded better too me.
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I am actually not very impressed by the beovox s75 since my way cheaper dual cl 390 kind of destroyed them especially when it comes to bass.
Trying to play those B & O's on a tile floor, doesn't do them real justice.
Beovox sounded much better as B&W.
B&W unfortunately, it is overwhelmingly better
I bought a pair of Beovox S75 for 201 Euro but the one speaker sounds a bit distorted when playing loud bass.
I use spendor bc1 now after years of wasting money on modern speakers that sound crap
I’m listening to this again with BnO EX ear buds in the Bang and Olufsen are superior that base is too in yer face on the Bowers abd Wilkins don’t get me wrong the BW are super sharp but would I want to listen to them for several hours nope 👎
Bowers and wilkins is much better
old b and o's (philips) are much better.
philips, seas and Peerless
@@audio-tec9037 indeed.
new is not always better. Have a beomaster 1000 over here and a very expensive sony e.s. amp system ............... 2 x 20 watts/ beomaster 3 times 140 watt sony..... beomaster: a lot of dynamics, super stereo, and perfect rounded sound, perfect stage places..... expensive sony: horrible sound ................ speakers: mirages 1090i
Pitu pitu , not music... Let them play more complicated music.
Do mot understand the point of this, nobody listen to this on those speakers, on jbl it sounds the same.
I’m listening on my iPhone 14 internal speaker and the Beovox sound way better