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Which Coconut Products are Good or Bad (Coconut Milk vs Coconut Water vs Coconut Oil)
Coconut, COCOnut, COCONUT!!! Coconut oil, water, milk, etc etc etc. That's all we hear. Take this coconut product. Take that coconut product. But how does it impact you when you are on a Low Carb/Keto diet? There is alot of science to get into! Lets dive in and I'll see you in the COMMENTS!!
Coconut water is the translucent fluid found in the core of young coconuts. It is sugary with little-to-no fat (all other coconut products are fatty) and full of electrolytes. If you’re on a low-carb diet, avoid coconut water. If not, it’s a great substitute for Gatorade.
Coconut milk comes from the fatty flesh of the coconut and is made by boiling or blending the flesh with water in about a one-to-one ratio. Great for curries.
Coconut cream is basically the same thing as coconut milk, except the coconut meat-to-water ratio is about four-to-one. Great for desserts.
Coconut oil (refined) is pure coconut fat, just as olive oil is pure fat from the olive fruit (yes, both coconut oil and olive oil are, technically speaking, fruit juices). If it’s not labeled as “virgin” coconut oil, then it is refined, which means the oil may have been heated, bleached, and/or deodorized. This doesn’t just sound bad, it is bad. The refining process strips the oil of over 80% of its healthy disease-fighting polyphenols and generates cell-toxic hydrogen peroxide.
Coconut oil (virgin) hasn’t been harmfully treated with heat or chemicals, like its abused sibling. This means it contains about seven-times more healthy polyphenols as does refined coconut oil. (Examples of virgin coconut oil polyphenols for your googling pleasure: caffeic acid, p-coumaric acid, ferulic acid, methyl catechin, dihydrokaempferol, gallic acid, quercetin, and myricetin glycoside.)
Furthermore, and this is IMPORTANT, while the majority of the scientific literature on the impact of coconut oil on cholesterol and heart health reports neutral-to-harmful effects, this umbrella view does not distinguish between refined and virgin oils. Interestingly, according to a brand new (at the time of this writing: January 2020, doi: 10.1016/j.mad.2020) review article on coconut oil, published in the journal of Mechanisms of Aging and Development, the two studies that have used virgin coconut oil report significant elevations in ‘good’ HDL cholesterol and no changes in ‘bad’ LDL cholesterol, while all other clinical reports using refined coconut oil report increased ‘bad’ LDL cholesterol. (As an aside, LDL is not completely bad, but that’s a topic for another post.)
The takeaway is that refined coconut oil is probably unhealthy, whereas virgin coconut oil is probably healthy. Processing matters! Please choose virgin!
Coconut Butter (raw) is simply whole coconut meat that’s been drained of water and ground into a pasty substance, similar to peanut butter. I’m going to go on a little bit about this one because (i) it’s probably the coconut product you haven’t heard of before and (ii) it is the best coconut product around for nutrition, versatility, and taste! By the way, that’s a fact, not my opinion (wink, wink, nudge, nudge).
Nutrition. Because it’s whole coconut meat that has not been roasted, toasted, heated above 118°F (that’s what “raw” means), it contains the same healthy polyphenols as virgin coconut oil, plus fiber and protein. But make sure to get it labeled RAW.
Versatility. Melt it and drizzle it over yellow squash or berries. Use it as the base for curries and stews. Use it as a dip for chocolate or macadamia nuts. Simply toss it with your favorite neutral protein, like shrimp, chicken, or tofu and give it a quick stir-fry. Blend it in a smoothie. Make coconut ice cream. Or, my favorite, eat it with a spoon!
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Can’t believe this dude just tried to tell me not to replace Gatorade with a natural alternative like coconut water. 👎👎👎 Coconut water after a workout is the bomb, and I rest easy knowing it wasn’t formulated in a lab.
Dude. Coconut water is vastly preferable to Gatorade.
Neither seems like a great option!
the best has to be the water from fresh coconut.
that's what i said? coconut water has half as many carbs and pretty much 0 synthetics unless you buy a bad product. like damn it's not perfect but so is being vegan xddddd
This is about carb content
VAAAAASTLY
"Add coconut cream in late to your cooking or it will separate . . " O_O
I've made curry several times and let my chicken simmer in coconut milk/cream and had no idea why it turned from creamy to soupy, oily mess. Never thought it would separate. Thanks for the tip!
Yea at room temp coconut products get pretty oily to begin with
*_Thank you!_*
This whole subject has been a confusion factor for me for years. Every Keto/Paleo/Primal thing I read has a separate section just for coconut products and their use in recipes, and none of them explained the differences in these products. Content like this is why I'm a subscriber.
Coconut water + chia seeds is great while hiking. That's my main usage for it!
I have some coconut water from young green coconuts, very low in carbs, the Raw Coconut Butter is my favorite, and I use the Coconut cream in deserts and curry. I look for the high quality raw stuff! I love Raw unfiltered Coconut oil as well!
I put a can of whole fat coconut milk in the blender with a tsp of vanilla extract and sometimes a tsp of cinnamon, blend until smooth and store in a mason jar in the fridge. It is the BEST coffee creamer!
Thank you for breaking down the difference between the oils. I always make my own coconut milk with the canned stuff. I'll take the can of full fat coconut milk put that in the blender with about four cups of water a little bit of vanilla extract and a little bit of monk fruit sweetener or stevia. And I love love love coconut butter You can take the unsweetened coconut flakes and blend those up to make coconut butter without any additives including sweetener it has its own natural taste to it it's phenomenal
Are you on instagram mate ? These sound amazing
@@nidgemcmorrow2082 yes sir I am my handle is : thahealer_
This is extremely helpful! Thank you so much for talking about how you make the milk!
For those that are unclear, coconut milk in a carton or bottle is a processed food.
Facts! It seems that most things are processed in some way. Even peanut butter made from fresh peanuts in the grocery store (in those fancy nut butter dispensers) undergoes the "process" of grinding.
I dont think its so much an issue if things are processed, but rather the level of processing that something undergoes (how does the processed food resemble its orignal state?)
That's why it says coconut beverage on all of the containers. It has to be a certain percentage of pure coconut to be called coconut milk or coconut water otherwise they have to label it coconut beverage. It's like processed cheese food, only not as bad for you because the ingredients don't include toxic oils like Velveeta does.
Actually they can't call it milk because the dairy industry won the battle of what to call dairy alternatives. Milk has to be from a mammal. A bit like how you can't call fizzy alcohol champagne.
What do you mean? they are just water mixes with coconut cream. Are you saying coconut cream are processed too?
I use to follow Thomas real closely. Then I realized he sold out and is full of contradictions.
Never knew you guys could make soooo many variants from coconut. In India, we use fresh coconut meat for everything we cook. And a lot of coconut oil for frying, body massage, what not!
Better than seed oil
I grew up on seed oils mostly everything fried I grew up chubby fucking terrible
When you have mouth or stomach ulcers, taking coconut water (from coconut directly, not from box) on empty stomach helps a lot. From time to time, I have to skip keto to address body heat.
Yeah the difference from drinking straight from a coconut and box/can is big. I honestly think its not healthy drinking from the box/can. Ive drank from a fresh coconut when i had a sore throat and it cleared up instantly.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I really needed to learn this! I live in Israel; the English labels are often covered by Hebrew labels; and my Hebrew isn't good enough yet to understand the answers to the questions I ask about these products in the health food stores. Love your videos! Thanks again.
When I was doing KETO I was huge in MCT oil. And did a lot of baking with coconut oils. Great stuff. Thanks for the video man. You rock!
I love coconut everything 🤣🥥🥥🥥🥥
Just wanted to say thank you for all your informative videos, been watching you for almost a year now and I have learned so much from you. God bless you and your family👋🏼🌹😘
Recently obsessed with Coconut Butter - it tastes really sweet to me so I use it in my fat bombs to avoid using actual sweeteners
I eat creamed coconut instead of candy
Excellent segment! I was expecting you to talk about MCT oil, coconut flour or coconut sugar too, but still enjoyed this segment alot. Hope you do another one.
the carton cocounut water maybe garbage but as a south indian the tender coconut water straight from the tender coconut that I get back home is an elixer of healing and doesnt come clossse to knocking me out of ketosis .
Thomas; I just say this video is so helpful to make a descision, thanks so much
I've done the Atkins back in my 20's and it worked well, but rather strict. Now at 50, I wanted to modify my diet to include fat burning but more complete diet with real honest information and an education to go with it. I'm completely happy I found a Thomas DeLauer video this past weekend. Everything you talk about sounds accurate to my logical engineering mind. I'm 5'10" @ 235#. My goal is 175#-180#. I've already begun going through my kitchen removing high carb foods and replacing them with low carb foods, I've bought Keto strips for testing, Boron and Chelated magnesium for my gut. I"m planning on a two week transition to full KETO diet by the end of the Memorial Day week. I am going to scour your videos for a blood sugar test as well as breath testing devices. If you have not done a video yet, I"d like to see on on blood & breath testing devices. I"m going with you as my mentor for this 3rd season of my life. All the best..!
Hi Will. I am also an engineer who dropped down to 172 from almost 200 lb. i am 5’10” as well. I suggest doing keto as long as you can while reducing the daily calorie intake while doing Intermittent Fasting. If you can do that another two weeks and eat once a day with 500-600 cal. a day, that means you can handle Water Fasting for several days. That gives me 2lb a day fat burning. Just an FYI.
Who do you fellas work for?? Union Pacific, BNSF, Northern Suffolk?? Driving train cool job. 🤣🤣🤣
Thomas is good. NOT GOSPEL!!! He still makes his money off being salesman for all these companies he recommends. Also check out Dr Berg. Dr Barry for sure. Keto Rewind good lady. I went from 6’3” 315 to 210lbs. About 13 months. Dirty keto 1st sixty-five then started cleaning it up. Redmond’s real salt a must. Potassium a must. Magnesium a must. Boron good for men. Releases already occurring testosterone in your body. 9 mg day. Intermittent fasting is a glorious thing. Delve into it slowly. You’ll be amazed and glad you did.
You really don’t need all the testing devices. I got them. But to be honest the color and smell of your urine will let you know if you’re in ketosis.
Good luck gents.
@@rueridge7597 , Lol on the dirty KETO. That's how I started on the Atkins...30 days of sirloin steaks on the grill...! That is why I'm looking for more food education, although I"m trying to stay out of information overload. The Boron arrived last night, and I'm now doing research on my first fast. Black coffee, Black tea or green tea and I can live on that for the better portion of a day. I'm okay with Thomas being a salesman for those companies. I grew up in rural chit hole Pennsylvania and there was no quality food, so if mail order is the only way to go to get food and vitamins, then more power to him and anyone who rely's on this pipeline to get you believe in. Thanks for the reply. Best.
I bought a big jar of refined coconut oil by mistake, would it make more sense to use it as a body moisturiser to avoid the negative effects of this?
Can you do a vid on all the sports drinks like Gatorade and why they suck
Thomas, I am so glad you brought up coconut butter. I've been using it for a few months now and I love it! I can't have other tree nuts or peanuts because of the high nickel content, and was really missing something that filled in that gap in my diet. I saw someone do a recipe using it and went hunting for it. It wasn't easy to find, so I convinced my favorite healthy grocery store to carry it for me. They really are great at the Healthy Living Market.
Agreed if u're talking about the food industries packed coconut drinks, but not if you're pointing at the real coconut. I always prefer coconut water by self-extracting from the the real coconut fruit itself, it has always been my main potassium intake because of its high k content by nature and it is also anti-bacterial, full of goodness. so if its packet/carton/bottled juice, you can have doubts about its content, but not the real one, the real one is a Godsent.
I was really disappointed with a Canadian Broadcast that bashed Coconut Oil really badly. Glad you did this. Thanks.
My coconut products are from my coconut tree...hehehe...
Thanks for sharing...good information
I ferment my coconut water with water kefir grains which reduces most of the sugar. the amount of potassium coconut water is off the chart and most people are deficient in potassium.
What about the water from the actual coconut from tree as I live in the Caribbean.
Yes that was my question as well.
I mix virgin coconut oil with organic peanut butter. More coconut then peanut butter. Pop it in the fridge till it hardens...delicious
I'm super lazy so when I feel like a fat bomb, I do a bit of virgin coconut oil and a spoon of almond butter together. It's quite good.
Cool
Great video bro. Thank you!
Good info.
Thomas, i use low-sodium salt for electrolites, it 50% NaCl, 50% mix of KaCl MgCl and CaCl for people who cannot eat too much sodium.
It's dirt cheap here (Holland) compared to supplements. The other salts come from the ocean, the salt is called La Baleine Essentiel.
Might be a tip for those supplementing on a budget
Cheers for the info Thomas. I've said it before I'll say it again thanks the inspiration to start my own project
Fyi, creamed coconut is the same as coconut butter only difference is that it’s sold in block form.
“This video is not about brands”.... What a funny guy!
Ha ha ha
Very informative as always!!! Thomas DeLauer is my go to subject matter expert. Thank you for the continue education.
agreed ...
Hi Thomas, Thanks for the video. Would have been complete if you had added Coconut flour to the list of coconut products being reviewed. As always, thanks for all these videos. Huge fan.
Thank you for making this video! It really helped me to understand coconuts and what part they play in Keto :)
"This video is not about brands" 7 minutes in BOOM! Thrive Market
Thrive Market is buying up all these CZcamsrs haha can't get into the subscription model
Yes after losing weight using keto I am finding that certain foods are still useful for healing that are not kept. Like pineapple, berries, beans, etc. Being as though I was raised Vegan it’s what my body is accustomed to being on Keto caused major constipation even with 8 cups of greens a day I was still messed up. So now I am trying animal protein keto every other day switching between plant based keto and a 24-48 hour fast I always do. So far on this diet my constipation has went down drastically. It’s not just about weight loss it’s about health. Do what your body wants. I bug my body. I demand and expect it to tell me what it needs and eventually it comes through.
What about coconut flakes?
I make my own coconut milk / cream from coconut meat. Pure stuff without any additives from commercial products.
I never knew what to do with coconut cream I purchased a couple months ago. I finally opened it and am in love. I mix it with some almond milk, or coconut milk, cacao or vanilla or with my coffee, plus a sweetner. The coconut cream is just amazing
I just made some chocolate fudge popsicles with coconut milk, coconut sugar, cocoa powder, vanilla!
I don't even like coconut... it's just that I'm addicted to Thomas :D
Excellent! Love your videos!
I love coconut butter and virgin oil even though it is a bit expensive in the Philippines at this time. Much of it is shipped here from the USA even though we are a big exporter of coconuts.
I thrive off unrefined virgin organic coconut oil expeller pressed. Big tub at wal-mart. Have started to just put a glob in my coffee again, and stopped mct oil, due to mild nausea.
thanks for the video 💪 this coconut water is really high in sugar, that water i use has "only" 3g/100ml of carbs.. what sources you consume Thomas for Potassium intake?
What about home made coconut milk made from organic, unsweetened coconut flakes?
Harmless Harvest has the purest Coconut Water, i recommend it
That's my coconut water jam too.
What about coconut water feom the coconut itself the natural one... bcoz in my place malaysia so easy to dring from the original coconut...
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Keep up the great work.
Again thanks for all the content. Have been learning tons.
Coconut shells are used by tropical fish for shelter and laying eggs on. Which brands put the shells back in ocean for fish habitats? I want to support the most well rounded brand.
Those things look like very high processed to me. Are those kind of things normal there? Here where I live when people say coconut water, then it is coconut water. People will cut open coconut and take the water right when you order it. And it's fresh and pure, cannot last for weeks like your version that's in carton.
All he advocates for is processed food... that's where all the rich sponsors are. Hardly any money is made by advocating for eating mainly whole foods! Big Broccoli won't sponsor him (or anybody really...), but some company which sells exorbitantly expensive powders will!
You are lucky to live where the coconuts grow. I tried real coconut as a child and it was amazing. However, it is not easy to find them here in Europe. And if yes they come from so far away that it is better not to buy them.
@@electronworld4996 I'm still wondering if real coconut water is comparable to the one that comes in carton tho... I guess no?
@@BaronessJames agree, I believe mother nature is already providing us everything we need. Yes I'm lucky I have coconut everywhere in Asia, but I always wanted to tried berries like you all in Europe have, or cheese, or whatever other things that are considered "fancy" here. One time our supermarket had blueberries in a tiny little plastic box that costed ridiculously expensive lol I thought those berries had to transport so faraway across the continent, there must be some chemical things in to preserve it.
@@dyahviona I never thought about this. Yes, berries are everywhere, they are not really cheap here either but we considered them everyday food. Thank you for reminding me that we all have our own treasures. We tend to see what others have and forget what we have. :)
Can confirm that coconut butter is great, but it’s also a bit, um... Rock-like. I haven’t quite figured out how best to warm it up into a spread, and it sounds like heating it isn’t the best option.
More videos on coconut butter please! That stuff is amazing!!
Great info. Thank you Tom. But what is coconut mana? Is than worthy? It is close to coconut butter?
Coconut mana is the same thing as coconut butter.
Thanks for all your videos and information Thomas.
Damnit lol... you burst my bubble when you said “don’t get fooled into thinking it’s an alternative to Gatorade”.
It has lots of potassium. Don't know why he said just take a magnesium pill.
Agreed, I was pretty surprised by that quote myself.
@@emh8861 in one cup of coconut water, a quarter tsp has the same amount of potassium with zero sugar. Nearly 7 carbs is not worth that sugar when its 1/3 of your day's worth on keto, not when over half is fructose as well. I dont believe sugar should be a liquid beverage for anyone, not just keto folk. Terrible for teeth. I believe he said take a mag pill because there are table salt forms of both sodium and potassium but not generally for magnesium, which most will take a tablet for at bedtime. Of you need more info on fructose Id suggest "sugar 2.0" which has the fat leptin mouse on it's cover. ✌
Raw coconut water is %100 better tasting & healthier than Gatorade which is filled with artificial colorings & some are very high in added sugars. Gatorade is trash and him saying its better than coconut water is ridiculous & totally incorrect.
Very helpful info! Thanks Thomas!
In simple words can we use a glass of coconut milk as substitute of 3% milk or not ? I’m lil dumb pls excuse me . I love milk and I’m on low moderate keto diet and 1 hour fasting . Need help
Hey Thomas. Thank you for all your videos. You have helped me tremendously. How do you feel about coconut water powder?
'Don't think it's alternative to gatoraid' really dude?? You prefer drinking that processed crap over something natural like coconut water? Craziness.
Ah, I love my coconut butter so much 😍 I add it to my breakfast bowl every day (3 tbs) - so delicious and no sugar cravings then 👍
Refined Coconut Oil has a higher Smoke Point than Virgin Coconut Oil, so I use Refined Coconut Oil for deep-frying and baking.
In South East Asia we used coconut juice to neutralise/flush out poisonous effects from taking antibiotics or medicine..And it actually effective
It depends on the brands and also, read the ingredients before buying.
Also yeh, anything I see with “natural flavour” I hurry and hit the back button and if I had it in my cart I remove it.
What if we heat Vergin coconut oil or coconut butter for cooking. Will all the goodness remain? Because you are saying it is good as it is not heated.
Thank you Thomas! 😊
Looks like the barber is open. LOL
Hail rebels!
Or, more than likely, his wife gave him a haircut
You should do a video on all the gain killers. Sitting too long, lack of protein etc.
I thought you were going to miss Coconut Butter. Great in recipes like my not-so-famous coconut butter bread.
Give us the recipe ;-)
Wow did you create the recipe? I'm not a great baker but that sounds good.
What about coconut yoghurt?
I use Celtic sea salt for my electrolytes and minerals
That's what I needed to hear for my wife and daughters all have gut issues, and I'm trying to figure out how to help them.
All good, never hear of coconut butter.
What about Organic Coconut Aminos?
Had to quickly look at the bottle of coconut oil I have and sighed in relief to look at organic virgin in the label... great content as always and the editing lately is better than ever
I just bought 20kg of coconut butter and I feel like a king chopping it up. Probably one of the best foods in existence. Don't tolerate nuts and had to reduce oxalates so didn't leave me with much thank god for coconut it's one of the best foods in existence! Hojicha lattes ftw
Thank you so much very informative
Thank u Thomas this was so helpful. I love ur videos. So educational. I always learn something from every one of ur videos. U r awesome. Love n hugs to u n ur family.
Great info. I was wondering if the coconut butter was worth buying ; and tasting.
Thank u for explaining this! I've always been so confused but not any more =)
When you are intermediate fasting he said not to mix carbs and fats. So if i were to eat fats later on how long should I wait?
Coconut butter or macadamia butter - which is better?
I’m a big fan of coconut .
Is the fresh coconut water also has high sucrose and fructose?
Is eating the raw coconut meat good?
Thanks sir!💕
Alpro unsweetened coconut milk, zero carbs, 14 cal per 100ml,great for cooking and protein shakes
I was wondering about this. My cream of coconut has 19grams carbs for 2 tbsp.
Coconut Butter sounds like something good to add to our lives. You make mention of getting it raw, that that it isn’t heated. But when I use it for making cookies, I will then be heating it. Will I be making it less beneficial when I bake cookies when using the Coconut Butter?
I would love to try Thrive Market but unfortunately they don’t ship to the UK btw loving your channel n Thank you for all the information you provide!
Aww, I'm sorry! I love Thrive Market. 💙
@@gallettiguitartones Hopefully they will in time ship to the UK :-) Glad you love it
unfortunately coconut oil and cream make me run to the toilet within the hour after eating.... and I only used the unrefined organic stuff. Anyone care to explain why this is happening?? thanks, Thomas, for giving us so much useful information. My health has much improved, (except for the coconut thing....)
What about Creamed Coconut in a solid block?
DUDE!!!!! So even though I'm drinking a zero cal and zero sugar Bang or Monster energy drink it's still causing me to get and or stay FAT?!?!?
What sucks is I'll never get an answer on stupid CZcams!!!!
MAtt Hesson I’ll andwer you yes it does lad
Zero carb, high protein, fat, calorie is healthier.
short answer: yes. because sugar goes by many, MANY names
just yesterday i found out that the "keto friendly" pork rinds i started eating did not list sugar but it does have one ingredient that activates the same insulin levels that sugar does - so essentially not keto at all.
read the ingredients carefully. if you see something that you're unfamiliar with, look it up. chances are it may be sugar.
I'll answer. It depends. Don't listen to ppl saying yes. That's not necessarily true. It largely depends what sweetener is being used. Avoid dextrose and maltodextrin, as those are the worse. Xylitol, glycerin, and sucralose are a bit sketchy, and could mess u up a little, but are generally okay
Can I break a fast with coconut milk made directly from coconut pulp?
What's the best coconut water to drink
What about the packaged coconut flakes in the baking sections of supermarkets?
Thank you 🙌🏻
Im obsessed with coconut. I drnk coconut water at least twice a week. I cook/baked and drink coconut milk and I make my own coconut butter. Pure coconut water is the cure for urinary tract infection in my house...learned that from my asian grammy.
Have you not tried AROY-D? It is in a carton and the only ingredient is coconut milk. Nothing else. Tastes amazing.