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- How to sharpen your forstner bits and give them new life again!
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-Spade Bits: amzn.to/3j8XPtD
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thank you for the link. I don't have a drill press so when I use my forstner bit it tends to jump around with my drill and oopsies happen.
from what i've read, you also have to sharpen the point in the middle too (if that is dull)
Can you use high end whetstones/bridge used for kitchen knife sharpening instead?
@@theX24968Z That point is merely for indexing your hole. If it is very dull, you could certainly sharpen it. But it does not have to be arrow-sharp.
@@StumpyNubs thanks. I've also noticed my forstener bits (ryobi ones) state a maximum RPM of 1200 on the forstener bit itself, yet they cut terribly at that rpm, and need to be used with a much higher RPM. any idea why this may be?
Having just bought my first set of forstner bits,
this is a valuable lesson . I can always count on you for teaching a very senior beginning woodworker
something he should have learned many years ago. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
You should become an audiobook narrator. Perfect voice for it :)
DAMNIT STUMPY!! YOU HAVE THE BEST TIPS AND TRICKS!! LOVE YOUR VIDEOS MY BRUTHA!!
Sharpening trick: color the face you’re sharpening with a marker, or marking fluid. It helps seeing when your sharpening reaches the cutting edge. I use it on knives, plane irons, chisels, and drill bits all the time.
Great vid! An additional tip to improve accuracy and monitor your progress: use a large blue dry-erase felt tip marker to color the surface you're about to hone. It will provide instant feedback. Why blue? Because black is actually difficult to see on polished steel. Wipe off any excess blue when done to prevent marking your work.
I think I should try that with my chef's knife as I feel my whet stone technique isn't quite where I want it to be. I see machinists use blue permanent marker too.
@@inthefade really a sharpie will get the job done
Now you sold me on that card sharpener. I love hearing the theory on why the 5 strokes, which seems so simple once you hear it. That also reduces the chance I might lose count if I get distracted.
"Fully blunt, wood smokin' piece of scrap metal" 🤣🤣🤣🤣I love your sense of humor. Thanks for the tips.
Fisch Forstner Drill Bit Sets made in Austria were too expensive for me recently, so I ended up purchasing a Freud FB-100 16PC Diablo Forstner Drill Bit Set also made in Austria from Amazon for $174.12 before sales tax. Both share the same wavy outer cutting design around their circumferences.
This Freud FB-100 Set should last me a pretty long time. Nice to know how to touch-them-up because replacing them as need be, although necessary, is a certainly cost maintenance bummer, so I will drill slowly.
Thank you for the 3-piece Sharpening Kit tip, Amazon offered 25% off the $107.99, so I saved $27.00 based on your timely recommendation.
Thumbs up before watching. Thanks very much for the information and the links.
Dude, I'm not even a wordworker but an avid fan of the trades and a fiend for knowledge. The obvious takeaways from your videos are the woodworking skills, but your presentation style and seamless ability to convey complex ideas for the layman viewer is incredible. That is something awesome I am taking from your videos, and I'm grateful for each and every one of your uploads.
In order to reduce the variation of an additional variable, if you were to drill a shank sized hole in a piece of wood and hold it in a vise, it would keep the bit from wiggling around as you were sharpening the rims. That may be a better technique than holding the bit in your hand for that operation. As always, great job great instruction! Thanks!
I ordered the kit, 25% off...thanks Jim
I just bought a set of Fisch bits, nearly cut myself on them, that's how sharp they were out of the box! I'm very impressed with them.
I really appreciate your delivery. Steady pacing, precise choice of words to make your point clear and understandable even for someone new to the subject, no wasted words, no misspeaking, and enough intonation to sound authentic and engaging. With all the instructional videos out there, especially for different interests, that rely of hype or rush through too many words in making their point, your channel really stands out as an example of good instruction. I know next to nothing about woodworking, but I'm learning very useful things from you, and not only about woodworking.
You are brilliant in your field!
Outstanding! I was wondering what to do with my Forstner bits that were not performing as they did! Now I just have to track down a few of these credit card type diamond sharpeners in NZ! Nothings ever is easy over here! Thanks very much for maintaining such an interesting and informative channel! Very much my favourite woodworking channel on line!
Not sure if you can get Amazon AU stuff to NZ easily but I had a quick look and Amazon has a couple 600 grit cards.
Carbatec in NZ will likely be able to help you out.
You’ll be able to get some from the mainland over the ditch. 🤣🤣🤣
@@DialMforDavid Bingo...some of them are out stock and not double sided with different grits but they'll do the job...thanks! Really appreciate the help!
@@Nereosis16 Very difficult in the past to use Amazon - even from Oz and shipping is usually ludicrous cost. Got one feed for similar from NZ but thanks for the help!
I remember my Technical Preparations course in highschool and your voice, intellect, and explanation reminds me of those tutorial videos at the beginning of each weekly station
Wait, what? Useful, simple, actitionable info from a utube channel? Thanks Stumpy!
I have been using a magnifying head band and a Dremel with either a small cutoff wheel, or conical stone, or sanding drum, depending on the forstner edge that needs sharpening for about 30 years. Started with diamond hones during my first 10 years of woodworking, but life is too short. In the 30 years of grinding, I messed one up bad enough that I couldn't salvage it and had to replace it. All the others are sharp and still living. As long as it is cutting clean, it is not the end of the world if the chips come off a bit uneven...just take a bit more off the heavy flute the next time. As it is the flute taking all the cut, it will also be the first to need a tune up. There are single flute bits, after all. Clean hole is the goal. Teak will take more than 5 laps a side after about 3 holes. My advice is that if you have a dull bit, try the Dremel. You really don't have much to lose, and you may find that you can carefully (and quickly) get a sharp edge, even on a "trashed" bit and get back to quality work.
This video popped up at the perfect time because my cheap saw toothed forstner bits are super dull and I have no idea how to sharpen them correctly. Thank you Stumpy!
Thank-you, great advice.
Bravo! Useful video. Thank you!
Great instructions. Thank you!
I watched your 2016 Fast & Easy Forstner Bit Sharpening video about a year ago and purchased the Trend curved diamond file and lapping fluid.
I was able to breathe new life into several Forstner bits that were no longer cutting clean holes. One or two had been damaged by overheating, so I'll probably have to replace them soon. Now that I have a drill press, overheating is less of a concern because I can control the drilling speed and the pressure of the bit against the wood far better.
Great timing! I just went back and rewatched this from 5 years ago when I needed to sharpen a forstner bit this week. I have the diamond file, but I think I'll pick up the card file next. That looks handy for a lot of tools.
Really useful tip James and this works every time for me. I have watched your previous version as well and even started doing this to my carbide router bits that have straight/flat surfaces like the edge trim bits as well. I have been able to use some of these for nearly 10 years with still good performance
You are like the Gil Grissom of tools
Thanks for sharing those tips!
Thanks for tips, James! I just ordered my first set of forstner bits (I ordered a mid-tier set). I’ll definitely remember these tips!
Great lesson James, thanks.
Great tutorial Jim. Thanks.
Great tip.
Excellent, thank you Nubs.
Such a useful video, really helpful as ever. Thank you.
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
I love your quality channel.
You are a friggin wizard.
Perfectly explained! I knew the trick of counting your moves from sharpening the chainsaw.👍
Very informative, thank you Sir Stumpy!
You have some awesome timing, James! Ordered the sharpening set from Trend. Guess I’ll do the Forstner bit sharpening after that gets here. Thanks very much for all this great information.
Great vid! Great info! Thanks!
Fantastic, James! Thanks a lot! 😃
I'm definitely going to try it!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Brilliant video as usual, Cheers from the Uk 🇬🇧
I bought the Trend kit you used there after your video years ago about how you sharpen your router bits. It works really well, and is still working great after repeated uses.
Thanks for this info 👍
Great points i will use this method
I bought a set of Fisch bits about a year ago, based on your recommendation. It is another tool I wonder how I did my work without for all those years.
Thanks for another great video. Keep em coming
This is a great sharpening lesson. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.
Excellent video and explanation of the art of sharpening Forster bits! This has always been a vague area which resulted in mixed results when I tried to sharpen some of my dull bits. Thank you for presenting a clear and precise process to follow which you also explain clearly! Well done!
Ironically I just got these last week and am new to your channel. I've been going through some of your videos that are as old as 10 years and have great content
Great information. I struggle to keep my forstner bits sharp.
If you do back and forth strokes, you are rounding the surface because the pressure of your strokes is always more on the side that the direction of the stroke is. Therefore, you should stroke from the sharp side down, lift the card up and repeat. In your theory this should be 10 strokes then. I would love to hear your thoughts about this.
Great information James, really appreciate your helpful hints and reminders for tool maintenance , saves around the shop. Fred.
Nice Tutorial👍
Putting some blue Dykem layout fluid on gives a good visual reference.
Same as sharpening Angie any multi cutter tool.
...and this includes Chainsaw blades,
which is where I learned this technique many years ago.
Another good vid. Suggestion: grind an angle on the edge of the diamond card so you can get into the corners better.
You could, but I don't know that it is necessary.
Fisch wave bits are simply amazingly good. I use a cylindrical slip stone in a drill press on on a very slow speed for the wave edges.
I think I was one who asked about sharpening lol n you answered, your my boy blue!
Another great tip video! I was thinking of using an etching pen to mark on the bit how many times it's been sharpened.
Way to go Jimmy my boy. Go Wings.
The diamond card, diamond file, and lapping fluid cost less bought separately than in the kit package!
I always go for carbide tipped forstner bits. way better
Another worthy moment to mention, in lieu of dowels fine enough to reach those tiny curved surfaces, bamboo skewers come in a fair variety of diameters and lengths, and they're both cheaply bought AND relatively strong and durable!!!
In most "lapidary supply" sources (sites like Rio Grande for instance) also offer ordinary diamond grit... JUST the grit. A little know-how and some adhesive allows you to order the grit # you want, and stick it to the object, surface, or curvy material as needed... It's (again) not entirely a perfect solution to everything, but when you need a specialty utensil or one-off instrumentation for a specialty job, it can work "in a pinch" or even become a "new gold standard" for your shop with a little invested experimentation...
...AS with anything, though... It's also about "How far YOU want to take it." ;o)
Thank You, I’ve been so frustrated with burning holes, that I’ve bought new bits…. That’s an expensive fix. Looking forward to using your technique tomorrow…
How can you be a woodworker and not be subbed to Stumpy? I just got a set of the Fisch wave forstners! Thanks James!
Suggestion
You could first mark the surface to be sharpened with a marker pen This would then allow you to observe where you had sharpened
For me, using a Sharpie to mark the cutting edge makes it easier to see where the metal is being removed. Am I getting the cutting edge, or do I have to change the angle a bit?
Wrap that fine grit sandpaper around the tapered end of a chopstick
Hey stumpy you should have a podcast
No thanks.
Off topic, where do you buy your sandpaper/ sanding disc from? Looking for some higher grits. Thx.
3:17, look at where you're pointing the card to the left of the center. That provides a negative rake angle, when you'd expect a positive rake to work better (the card should be pointed to the right of the center in the shot).
But as you know, the forstner geometry is a pair of rotating plane blades, with a scoring knife around the edge, so the "teeth" don't cut like a hole saw. They're just scoring.
Also, while honing in 5 strokes isn't going to hurt your bits, you're effectively sharpening bench plane blades by laying the blade flat on the stone instead of sharpening the bevel. I do agree though that hand sharpening the bevel presents issues that make it impractical.
I am merely sharpening the tips of the tooth. While they look like saw teeth, they are really not the same as on a saw. A forstner bit only cuts with the tips of the guide rim- scratching the fibers. The large chippers remove the actual wood. Continuous-rim and wavy rim bits are a good example of how forstner bit rims work. These have no "rake" angle at all.
Is this trick suitable for carbide tipped bits ?
I liked that set. Could you tell me how much it costs in Canadian dollars and how can I order them? Thanks. Julio from Canadá
I found average to cheap bits can all do with a sharpen out of the box. Saves more hassles later and gets half decent cuts.
When hand sharpening something like these forstner bits by hand, I like to use bluing on the surface being ground so I can see where my diamond is making contact. Since I don’t have bluing at home, I use a magic marker.
Thanks for saving me some money. Luckily I haven’t thrown away some of my dull bits.
My instincts tell me that more strokes = larger sample size = less variation in total. Interesting that you recommend a little of the opposite (only 5 strokes)
My training in statistics agrees with your instincts. I think that more strokes would average out the variations more. But the other factor is not wanting to take off to much material.
The link lead to Freud bits on top of the list.
Those are Amazon ads. Here's a like to the Fisch store. Fisch Forstner and drill Bits: amzn.to/3KT440D
The Amazon link in the pinned comment?
The first "non-sponsored" listed item is the Fisch branded set...?
Ninja sniped by Stumpy.
@@mattmanyam I don't understand. Are you wondering why Amazon puts sponsored listings (Freud) at the top of the search page I originally inked to? I believe it's because Freud pays to appear at the top of Forstner bit searches. I have changed the link to the Fisch store on Amazon.
@@StumpyNubs you and I were replying to the O.P. at the same time... I was explaining to him that the link in your pinned comment was valid, and he didn't realize that he needed to look beyond the "sponsored" listings.
My second comment just acknowledged that you beat me to the punch. (Your comment wasn't posted yet, when I started typing my reply)
I'm thinking of getting the trend card file, and notice they make a similar product called a double sided machinist file for just a few bucks more. It seems to do the same thing as the card file, but has a handle which may make it a little easier to hold. Anyone have experience with this or comparison?
So 5 seems to be the magic number, eh? Will it probably apply to chainsaw hand sharpening as well?
What side are you using? When showing the "lay flat" technique, you seem to be sanding on the 600 side of the card. When doing the alternative "bevel only" chipper, you're using the 300 side. Is there a reason for this?
600 for both. If I used the wrong side in part of the demo, it was an oversight.
Fisch offers a sharpening tool for forstner bits.
Yes, I have one. It works. But it's expensive and few own one.
Thanks for another great tutorial. Could you please tell me the name of the lubricant you use. I couldn’t quite catch it in the video.
Link below the video
I just watched your video of random orbit sanders. I wanted to ask what kind of random orbit sander should I buy for a shop that only makes cabinet doors, and sometimes do 40 to 50 panales without break. I was also wondering what kind sand paper i should use. I fell like I'm wasting money throwing away sanding paper after 20 o so panales. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
If you are willing to spend the money, I highly recommend Mirka sanders. They are very comfortable to use over long periods of time with low vibration and when paired with a good dust extractor they are pretty much dust free. Festool sanders are very similar in quality, as well.
I had a guy put a knife edge on a planer bit, once, and then he couldn't figure out why it wouldn't cut.
Is there a brand of Forester bits you would recommend? Thanks.
Fisch
Have you ever made a bit unbalanced from sharping? Foerster bits may not be as noticeable due the lower speeds but I've done about 2000 passes on 2in router flattening bit and this was just to see if I could flatten the cutters on my cheap China bit and well I didn't but I got most of it and the most important parts but I didn't have any issues but the balancing seemed fine or the same as before I wasted 30 mins. I've always heard not to do to many passes for that reason. But didn't seem to effect anything
Un balanced? No. The risk is an uneven cut, which will make a poor performing bit.
@@StumpyNubs thanks
I have to admit that Fisch Wave forstner and premium wood drill bits are the best ones I have ever tried. I'm not sponsored by them and I bought them with my own money! Top product at a great price!
On that note economy Fisch drill bits are not worth the price.
Really surprised they don't have Milwaukee switchblade style replaceable cutting blades
@@daveklein2826 have you seen the Milwaukee switchblade for self feed bits? Maybe they couldn't do something like that for forstner bits
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"fully blunt wood smoking piece of scrap metal", excuse me sir...how dare you break into my garage and test my tools without my knowledge.
How ironic. I just watched your other forstner bit sharpening video not two days ago. The strange thing is I went to like seven different videos that day, all on sharpening forstner bits, and every single one of them told something different than the last. There wasn't a bit of consistency between any of the people I watched sharpen their forstner bits. I think I'm going to stick with the Stumpy technique.
I just realized you never do an woodworking on this channel.
This channel focuses on specific skills, techniques and shop related content. We build a lot of things in our videos, but we rarely present them as complete project tutorials. This video clip explains it in more detail: czcams.com/video/-S9aibzmF3w/video.html
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Perfect! Another $110 well spent (though Mrs Woodprobie most likely would disagree). Question: when (or should) I become concerned when these 70 year old shakey hands and fingers make this a futile attempt? Thanks again.
... wood smoking piece of scrap metal...😂
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I bought one of the Fisch wave forstner bits on your recommendation...what a WASTE of £40, its already dull after drilling only 10 holes in the end grain of some 4x4 soft timber. A cheaper (£20) one from a local DIY store, done nearly 400 holes before it started to dull. I'll be taking your recommendations with a pinch of salt from now on. Not impressed at all.
Where did you get it? That doesn't sound like a Fisch bit AT ALL. I bet it was counterfeit. Send it back.
@@StumpyNubs purchased from a dealer on e-bay, came in what looked like genuine Fisch packaging, but then hiw can you tell fake from genuine these days?!! The first few cuts were beautiful, then by the 10th it was struggling and 'binding' in the wood.
@@mickyas1000 I am sometimes amazed at what is counterfeited today. And Amazon mixes it right into the same stock, so you may buy from a company's Amazon store, and Amazon may ship you counterfeit stuff sometimes. It is very frustrating, but it is something Amazon and other online retailers need to figure out.
@@StumpyNubs thanks for taking the time to respond, much appreciated. 😊😊😊😊
I really have to stop watching your videos!!!! I’m going broke buying all this stuff.