Sportster S vs DIAVEL, Forty-Eight, Rocket 3 and S 1000 R
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I died at 2:17 😂🤣 the rocket 3 literally rocketing past everyone in torque
sure its beast not to be riden i the city with others and not even try to park; Compare a sleek bike with a bus is not any worthy comparison.
1 year later, the Triumph runs mid 10s. 😁 Excellent video. 👍
0-60 and predicting further is very useful. Thanks for this.
Thanks Gregor!
That was more entertaining than I'd expected, seeing the Sportster S against some heavy names. Hoping for a part 4 and more unexpected comparisons! Z900rs hopefully!
I'm glad you liked it! The Z900RS is on the list along with seven other bikes. 🤦♂️
@@BikesILike Awesome! Hope more people want a part 4!
This is so good! I need to go and watch your previous Vids. I have the 22 BMW s1000R and my husband is considering the Sportster. Great info and graphics. Thanks.
Oh, and new sub!!
Thank you!
Really liked the real time drag strip comparison. Excellent content upgrade. Thanks!
Thanks Guy! 👍
Did you make motorcycle noises while you watched it like I did?
@@dingguscon235 only for two of the entrants 😉
As usual, great comparison.
Thanks again.
Thanks Fritz! You're welcome. 👍
Thank you for the great information on the Sportster S comparison to the other great bikes! Please keep them coming and God bless to you all.
Yep, the sport is definitely back in the Sportster.
With the last place in every test, I prefer the 48
Why? I don't understand the fascination with the 48 model.
I like the Sportster S for what it is(“sport cruiser “?)and at it’s price point.It’s very competitive at a lower price, but there is still something nostalgic about the older evo sportsters that can’t be ignored.They are raw and primal.And now cheap!
@@jayboorum4524 Sporties have always been cheap. A dime a dozen. I like the real old stuff, the sportsters from the 60s That's some real rawness, but the look sharp and they were simple.
@@dickjohnson7845 Simple,and huge aftermarket of custom parts! I heard once that the rarest motorcycle is an all original used sportster.
Such amazing video and I love my 48 lol
I’d you got into cars also your channel would blow up 10X fast!
Nothing wrong with the 48 it's still a great bike. Thank you I know, but bikes are my thing. 👍
How do you create the dynamic graphs on video?
On Ducati's site Diavel 1260s for Europe market has 1.62 hp and 2.5 0-100 kmh.
Great video, thanks.
Thank you! 👍
Yes I am interested in 0-60 and quarter mile and ease of launching. Please continue. Are you riding these bikes to see if they are easy to launch?
I would love to ride them all but that's not possible in Australia nowadays. Most manufacturers and dealers expect you to just buy the bike without test riding and as such don't keep demo bikes.
@@BikesILike Yes same here in Texas USA.
Great vids. Very useful… can you do the f900r bmw vs sportster s. BMW f900r is my previous bike, and I’m considering buying a sportster s.
Thank you! I'll see what I can do, I'll add the F 900 R to the list. 👍
i had a 900 xr sold it; cant compare to sportster as those who buy are older; want to sit lower; ride for comfort wtih a passenger. I'd never do that on a 900 XR ; Its a great bike for sure for single rider; but rides higher; heavier.
The Sportster S has that Revolution engine which is similar to the Revolution Engine that comes from the V Rod only it is dressed up a bit differently. If you don't need a dedicated hi-way machine and have the resources to own a touring machine and want a bike to roar about on and for quick overnight rides I think the Sportster S would be perfect. Did I mention the Revolution Engine?????
agree; but look at cost of parts, maintenance vs others; after you have it. If i want a passenger seat, pegs, sissy bar; forward pegs on it; I pay with my right arm !
Considering the FTR makes a bit less horsepower per lbs and a bit less torque per lbs and runs 11.32@120mph I would assume the sportser s could possibly bang out high 10's with a pro rider and a hearty launch. But I forsee seeing a lot of riders running 11.0-11.2@ 120-122mph with the Sporster S. I guess we will see when production models start dropping.
EDIT: I see you pretty much came to the same conclusion I did after watching the video entirely. Glad we are on the same page lol
Ricket 3R the best!!
As slow as the 48 is, that's still a faster 1/4 than most sports cars.
These are all good points. It's probable a Sportster S with a FuelPak could run low tens or even match the BMW with a small rider. Somebody will do it.
See that this comparison is 2yrs old. Would like to see this done again with the diavel v4.
Still waiting on the livewire😤🤣
I'm considering it for the next one. 👍
With a 120 mile range per charge, good luck with that one
Kuddos to you mate. I can see the work you put into this and i appriciated that.
Good videos. I think your numbers will be pretty close to reality.
It seems like the Sportster S is in a hard to devine class of its own ATM.
Handling is more of the cruiser. Thou the engine leans more to sport, the frame, low ground clearance and very short suspecion travel is not.
The BMW has much more of the sport DNA. It lacks the Torque but has buckets full of Hp and handling belongs to a 100% sportbike.
I would love to see that Harley Bronx with this 1250 revolution engine. (tuned to 140Hp and nice torque range)
The Bronx would be much more the "Sport" in the name Sportster, if you understand what I mean.
Thanks for the feedback Grizzly, much appreciated! 👍
Great video. How does HD add a passenger seat and a 120mm front tire and wheel?
I rode the VROD Muscle in the past. I ran it up to 150 mph on the speedo. Wish I could have verified it with a GPS.
No pillion seat or luggage available. Harley doesn't want you to have everything. I'd say Triumph is the only one of these that gives you the best of all worlds.
Well done👍😎🏍. Let’s see Part 4 with Z900RS and Vulcan S unrestricted👍😎🏍
Thanks Con! I'm whittling the list down now. Stay tuned. 👍
@@BikesILike 👍😎🏍 and the Softail Slim or Fat Bob 107👍😎🏍 This Sportster S is very interesting. I like what you’re doing👍😎🏍 I’ll consider this if I go sport cruiser again
it could be interesting if sportstar takes stage IV Kit, Can you pls compare cvo breakout?
I've added the CVO Breakout to the list 👍
Including all the graphs and info contained here, or ignoring them all, I'd still take either of the Harley's over any of the others XD
Yamaha VMax Gen 2, hold my beer 🍺
Now that some ride test videos are coming out, I’m still concerned about the single front disc and fat tires.
I have a 320 mm single disc on the front of my NC750X and it weighs roughly the same as the Sportster S. The braking power is very good on that bike and I have no complaints. I'm not seeing any reviewers complaining about stopping power. But having said that, the Sportster S also has double the HP of my bike. Going to be interesting to see what the consensus is long term.
Oh and the tire profile is quite pointed giving a narrower contact patch. I think they'll be fine.
@@BikesILike thank you, I can't wait to test ride one as soon as it arrives in Europe.
@@djsangre Me too! 👍
I have zero issues with braking on the Sportster S. brakes are smooth and stop the bike quickly
Do you have a video on the Aprilia RS 660?
No I don't as yet have a comparison of the RS 660, only a DIF video - czcams.com/video/2dBLal3rLC4/video.html
@@BikesILike thank you. I’ll check it out. I think that’s going to be my next bike 😍
@@rockylion4382 Nice! 👍
The triumph has an engine nearly twice as large so it's not in the same category try a 1200 speed twin against the 48 it's more equal.
I want to see a bmw r ninet in this comparison. That seems closer to the same class than some of these
I have noted your request. 👍
@@BikesILike thanks!
agree; more inline that all others posted. @@BikesILike
did i miss something...I guess those were predicted number on 0-60 because you didnt have access to the bikes? Thanks and love my Sportster S. Have had it for two years and have been stopped every time I ride with comments on its looks!
I should've mentioned. The times were sourced from sites like www.zeroto60times.com/ where times are compiled from actual drag strip runs and various credible sources.
Good vid still love to see a bang for your buck included and the Trident included
Thanks Peter. Bang for buck, good idea! I'll see how I can work that in for the next one (it looks like it's happening). The Trident will be featured in that one. 👍
@@BikesILike top man
everyone pays for different items; so hard to do as one buys bikes for different reasons/comfort//power/fun . Todays comparisons above are a good example as many not even in the running for a sporster S.
@@BikesILike
sportster S is priced right below triumph, 1000 and many others; But again compare comfort and the heat pouring off the engine. A big compiant. Wear shorts and your legs are fried ; so i hear. Then thers service, parts accessories cost that blow the sporster way over.
For sure. Not even in the ballpark to compare!! Why not triumph speedmaster. As its a foot forward cruiser, and also not cheap
The sportster s is only 113 horsepower and 87 torque I know I put mine on the dyno
the point is ?
I see no reason that Harley Davidson could not have released this bike 10 years ago!
They did, it was the VROD, but they failed to take the VSCR motor and apply it to other bikes beyond the VROD.
@@dickjohnson7845 You know that is true. They could have configured the VROD into a muscle street fighter bike. I have recently seen the new Sportster S in person, I do like the look of it visually. I doubt it is as comfy as the VROD. I am still a sucker for the Evo 45degree sound!
vrod is not a cruiser for passenger comfort. its closer to a sports bike. @@dickjohnson7845
Great
Suggestion : compare this against big trail
Big trail bikes?
I think this is a good end to the series
Yeah I think we've pretty well covered it. 😉
New engine put on forty-eight and make that peanut tank more capacity.Thats all I want..
yes the selection is out of range or style of the sporster S. I would have the vulcan S as the closest for passenger riding. other sport bikes here ; well S1000 is not near it. any sport bike triumph 900 gt pro is a stretch also but not same style; at all. anyone can compare power specs; its not the point !
Definitely should have had the VMax in there unless you are only doing current bikes.
V-Max is still available in the US and I did compare it in this video. 👍 czcams.com/video/ViEURSwjFYQ/video.html
yes; i had a vmax 1200 many years; and 20 yrs ago. . Good passenger comfort; rides lo. That would be a closer compareison to the sportster S. if it had todays TFT features.
Early reviews are disappointing
Sportster s
Waiting for your review :
Thanks Akhil! I haven't seen any reviews. I'll have to look around. It may be a while before I get to ride it unfortunately, I have a feeling we might not be seeing it until early next year. I hope I'm wrong though. 👍
I mean that 48 couldn’t look more out of place!
Agree. But look on the bright side, the Sportster S and it's upcoming siblings will be it's replacement. 👍
@@BikesILike True, but there’s pros as well as cons to that.
I really don't understand the point to the 48 and it has a bit of a cult following.
The Sportster S is impressive ..given the price. Come one now. 15K ? Deal.
18k-19k in Asia. but its inline with all the other overpriced bikes.
A part 4 please. Sporster S owner.
0-100kmh is 0-62mph, not 60
who cares ? is just for your racing interest. HD' are not there for racing.
Lol watch the diavel vs rocket drag video on you tube mate, the xdiavel flogs the rocket 0-60 and 1/4 Mile
too bad the rocket 3 is not more geared to low riding with good passenger seat. It would be far more popular and in line to the sportster S.
This comparison is for somebody who needs science understanding.
I own a Rocket 3R and is easy to run 10.5 seconds.
This bike is highly factory restricted. Without any mod you can easy catch 220 Hp, simply change stock maps.
Now, riding this bike with 220 Nm imagine the reason why 6xt gear is only for relaxing engine...
Should have included the kawasaki z900rs and cb1100
It looks like I'm doing a fourth one. The z900RS is already on the list. I'll add the CB1100 (another one of my favourite bikes). If you had to choose between one or the other which would you pick for the test? I'm asking because I'm already up to another 8 bikes to compare. It's looking like I might also have to do a part 5.
@@BikesILike ide say the z900rs. The cb1100 has been discontinued “at least where I live” so it would still be a market bike
@@toofastnobrakes 👍
@@BikesILike how about a fatbob? It should have the one here instead of 48
@@enderzebak2863 I'll look at including the Fat Bob in a future video. 👍
Diavels are putting out 162hp for 2021
I saw that! It's hard to keep up at the moment. Plus I constantly see HP figures vary from country to country. 🤦♂️
Power details were all over the place for the 2021 figures, was only confirmed with the release of the Black and Steel edition.
@@markhalden3922 Ah I see, cheers.
shame the Indian scout was not there.
I compared the Scout in these two videos. 😉
czcams.com/video/MLxeuH85yH0/video.html
czcams.com/video/qGFHLyvd240/video.html
Sportster vs Diavel lol about 10k
90kg ? Why ? McDonalds ?
I'm blaming KFC
@@BikesILike ok true LOL 😂😂
racing from stop is not imporant. better to compare passenger comfort over 6 yrs riding
All of these vs this and that is really a mute point. Harley Davidson was merry show casing their new engine, technology, and the new direction they are going in moving away from big primary, pushrod, hot air cooled motorcycles/engines.
A lot of people enjoy watching them, that's why I do them. 👍
moot*
agree; different features mentioned to compare.
@@BikesILike
To 60 diffrenc really come to weight distribution and tire and clutch work rather than to power and torque in such powerfull bikes 👌🏻 diavel is no slower 0-60 than rpcket 👌🏻 and 1/4 mille you predict good 👌🏻 bmw ,ducati,rocket,sportster sand last 48 👌🏻 bmw above 130-140 eat them alive 👌🏻 or even sooner anyway as son as wheely would not anymore limits power delivery and driver be able to use peak power without end on hees back 👌🏻 from this point bmw leave them in the dust 👌🏻
Harley-Davidson V-Rod vs Harley-Davidson Sportster S
It's coming 👍
Sportster S for comfort for cruising/ touring. @@BikesILike
Really Harley’s aren’t in the same league they need to be pitched in the same price bracket that they cost . There cheap for a reason
power to weight using torque makes no sense. they make their torques at very different rpm`s, making 1ft lb of one bike be way more potent than the same 1ft lb of another bike that makes it at lower rpm.
Always use HP, the HP calculation is invented to portray real world performance, where torque numbers arent very relatable to what you feel and hear from the vehicle itself.
Torque numbers are irrelevant without stating at which RPM they are, HP numbers are always relevant since they are calculated with RPM in mind.
I agree
I don’t understand why Harley made such a powerful, heavy motorcycle with a single front rotor.......
I've tested them and the brakes work well.
yes-agree; even if they didnt need it; it looks better; and compares better.
Sorry but just comparing dead data on paper of motorbikes is the most useless thing you can do. Nothing you say will feel the same on a street and comparing those bikes life.
That's true. But this is all I can do I'm afraid as we don't have the luxury of test riding bikes in Australia. This is how I alleviate my frustrations.
Ducati can't be compared with any stupid HD, Triumph maybe
agree; different pupose of riding; like many above also.
Sooo if you lose weight you could beat a sport bike with a Harley
who's in a race? ; I"m interested in touring with passenger
Entertaining, but clearly biased and rigged -- cgi doesn't expose FACTs.
The Triumph Rocket IMO is clearly the winner not just in shear RHINO power but true sculpted elegance from head to toe while you're riding on the smoothest turbine feeling engine in the production world.
I gotta get a Rocket!
priced much higher also.
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I sent you an email, did you check it? :)
Its a Vrod that identifies as a Sportster and its pronoun is "S"
Its not a Sportster
BMW and Ducati is faster than Harley Davidson
God that Harley's ugly, though.
some think its beautiful !
All I have to say in the long run who wins over all cost warrantee coverage repairs and reliability time down let us now it's all in the game of the future and down the road LEMAY
for Sure ! cost for maintenance and service, accessories. -1st.
The diavel is faster than the rocket in 0-60 and 1/4. It hits 2.5ish to 60.
The sportster s is only 113 horsepower and 87 torque I know I put mine on the dyno
To keep it fair I used all the manufacturers claimed power figures