Why I Chose PsyD over a PhD
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I'm finishing my BS in Psychology and looking at a PsyD in Clinical Psychology as my next step because it feels like it gives me the most options. It's very intimidating and it feels like the distinctions between programs are sometimes so program specific. I just found your videos - it looks like you're talking about a lot of the questions I've had. Thank you so much!
Absolutely! It can be confusing, glad the videos have helped!
I have been looking into PsyD for a several months now. I recently graduated from a MSW in Clinical Social Work. I am currently gaining experience working in a Psychiatric unit to gain experience prior to applying in the end of the year for a psychology Doctorate program. Your video resonates with me in reasons I am shifting more to PsyD than PhD program. Thanks for the video.
Anytime, glad it's helpful!
Great content! Thanks for sharing brother.
My pleasure!
Thanks very much Phil.
You're welcome!
I love your videos, man.
I am seriously contemplating going back to school to study either clinical, forensic, or investigative psychology, and your reasons for choosing PsyD over PHD are absolutely awesome and i already relate to your reasons even without being in a program myself as of yet.
Thank you for you wonderful and informative videos.
Thank you so much! I'm glad they are helpful!
Thanks!
Thanks so much!
I had a similar line of reasoning.
Hi! I am in the master's program for Clinical Mental Health Counseling and really enjoy it. I would love to eventually do the Psy D in Clinical Psychology. However, I have been told that in my state (Arkansas) the licensure requires it to be in person school rather than online schooling. Do you know if that is true? I have searched and can't find anything confirming that. I am married with 3 young kids and online is my only option for school!
Hey great questions! I don't live in the state of Arkansas, so my info might be limited. Here's what I do know however, if you're looking for APA accredited schools, (which to me I would recommend any prospective graduate student to look into APA accredited programs, there's a wealth of benefits there), as far as I know there are no online APA accredited programs to this date. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I checked, if you want an APA accredited program, it needs to be in person or at least have a hybrid version. There are states that allow you to be licensed without APA accreditation, so I'm not sure if your state is one of those states; I would contact some schools in your area just in case (both APA and non-APA accredited) and also ask a few psychologists in your area what their perspectives might be in terms of navigating that situation. I hope that helps!
I'm currently finishing my undergrad in psychology and have recently considered getting a PSYD. What I'm currently debating is whether to get a master's before jumping into my PSYD. My school currently has an accelerated program where I'll start taking grad classes my senior year and then only have one full year of grad school left after I finish my undergrad. That's my current track, but I worry that I'm only doing my master's to have a better chance of getting into grad school because I know my PSYD will overshadow an LPC. So do you have any advice on whether it's worth it or not to get a master's and then go to a PSYD program? Or should I go straight from my undergrad to a PSYD program? I also don't have a ton of research experience. Thanks!
Great questions, it really depends on your value. Some people want to finish grad school as quickly as possible and skip the masters. Some people appreciate the masters to get clinical and research experience and to look more competitive. A masters in counseling also provides the opportunity to work for some time before going into a doctorate. I know some students who apply to both masters and doctorates in the same application year and then decide what to do based on their options. Hope that helps! Best of luck! If you have any further questions you can reach out on my website philsarpong.com to prevent the comments from getting buried thanks!
Hello, thank you for all your content! I am beginning my PsyD program this fall, but I am TERRIFIED by student loan debt! It seems insurmountable compared to the Ph.D. ( for example 50k in tuition per year!) Any tips on easing these fears? Thank you!
Yeah great question! Many PsyD programs have opportunities for being a TA or a RA which provides a little bit of a stipend. In addition, there may some scholarships that your school has or that you can apply for once in grad school. Sometimes people go towards the military route and have their education payed for in return for service after grad school. These are some options but you're right the tuition and lack of funding for PsyDs is a big problem, I hope to have a guest come in the future to provide more options. Hope that helps and best of luck as you start!
Consider the military or peace corps. They will either pay your loans and you. Or pay your tuition and give you a stipend while you’re in school for the last two years. Search “HPSP” or “FAP” or “HPLRP” for clinical psychology
Can you talk about funding and working during the program. How can you pay bills and get a psyd
Great question! Some PsyD programs offer a monthly stipend, most programs also offer jobs to their students as teaching assistants or research assistants. Sometimes there are minority or other scholarships available for students depending on the program. The majority of students will need to take out student loans to cover cost of expenses for living, rent, etc. since grad school is so expensive. After finishing grad school most people will pick some type of payment plan to pay those student loans back, something like 200-400 a month for 10-24 years or something like that. Other students have spouses/partners/ or family that helps out with expenses so that they can limit their student loans, other students will also work extra jobs outside of school like a waiter/waitress on the weekends 10-12 hours a week to get extra money. There are lots of ways to pay for grad school but at the end of the day it depends on the student, their resources, and the grad school that provides them financial support. Hope that helps! I'll be bringing someone as a guest on this topic so stay tuned for more info!
Does University of Valencia offer phd program in i-o psychology?
Unfortunately, I'm not quite sure :(
Hey I am in masters of science in clinical mental health and counseling and looking into PsyD or PhD I want to become a clinical psychologist. My question to you is what do you think of those short PhD/ PsyD programs that are being offered online by university 2-3 years?!?
Instead of 5-6 or 4-7 years ??!
Great question, what's always been advised to me is to really do your research on online programs. The best accreditations for clinical psychology in the U.S./Canada are PsyD/Phd are APA (American Psychological Association) or CPA (Canada Psychological Association) (I'm not sure about international countries) and most of these will always have programs In-person 4-7 years. If an online program doesn't have one of these certifications and they claim for 2-3 years... I would really look into their curriculum and double check that that the quality is up to par with other accreditations before attending.
Thanks for responding back. Yeah my professor had graduated from the university of Cumberlands and they offer 3 years online doctorate and she did it online. And this all makes sense thanks for explaining it to me.
I am a psychology student from Chile. Here psychologists can’t prescribe medicines. In USA psychologist’s can prescribe medication?
Hi great question! Not unless they get an additional certification. Most graduate schools and states here in the U.S. won't allow psychologists to prescribe unless they get their phd/psyd as well as another certification in psychopharmacology. But thats only true for certain states in the U.S.
@@philsguidetopsyd Can't even legally use the title "Psychologist" in the United States without holding a Doctorate in Psychology and a state license to practice Psychology. Quite a few people have been hauled off to jail for not adhering and that's partly why so many sheisters started using the term "psychotherapist" which isn't a protected title.
I’m a fulltime husband/dad employee. Just finished my masters in general psychology, is it possible to get into a psyd program with that much going on?
One of my cohort members is a husband, dad of 4 kids, and worked part-time, I've seen it done, but its not easy!
Did you have extensive research experience when you applied to your PsyD program?
Just a bit! Not a lot, so I choose programs to apply to that gave weight to other things like clinical experience
What should I do after getting the degree of ba applied Psychology hon.?
Depends on your career goals and aspirations!
Just came across your page. Any advice for someone starting late (35) pursuing clinical psychology as a career. Ideally I'd like to pursue my psyd. Currently finishing up my BS then on to MS
Hi, great question! From what I've seen in my own cohort and in other programs many people come from all different backgrounds. A friend of mine is about to turn 45 and is pursuing their PsyD, so you're definitely not alone. Finding a mentor and support system in grad school I would say is one of the most important things to help navigate the workload and program early on, especially as you adjust. Hope that helps, all the best!
@@philsguidetopsyd that does! Thank you so much for responding. Going at it alone and look for others on CZcams for virtual encouragement lol so thanks!. Will keep that in mind.
@@philsguidetopsyd currently am in hospitality management while pursuing this degree. Finding it difficult to find clinical type jobs to help toward experience in this field. Can you suggest or recommend any strategies for gaining the experience to help line up with this field. I plan on leaving hospitality once I start my Masters. So by time I can even think about my psyD, I'll have some experience
I believe I made a video about jobs that you could get before or during grad school that helps to get clinical experience. Also if you're wanting to buff up your CV, hospitality works fine, most schools just want to see that you have experience working with people. Although if you're doing it more so for you some clinical type jobs to look into might be a psychometrician, psychology aid or assistant, clinical researcher either through an organization or school or maybe a behavioral analyst or technician in a hospital setting (they sometimes work with autism or those with special needs). Hope that helps!
@@philsguidetopsyd okay, I will look through your videos
Which uni do you go to for the psyd?
i go to school in the midwest, feel free to check out my linked in profile for more details
How many years would it take to complete the PsyD program:
A) After Bachelors
B) After Masters
And other than USA, which all countries offer this PsyD program?
psyd program is 4-6 years typically after the bachelors and masters. I'm not exactly sure which other countries might offer the psyd, you might have to check online for that.
Thoughts on the PSYD degree in school psychology vs Phd?
Great question! Both provide similar types of training, with a little more research for the PhD. Same type of concept if you prefer research or want to go to schools that might have more funding PhD might be preferred, but the PsyD may offer more clinical practice and a shorter time in school. Always depends on the individual school because each school might have its own strengths and weaknesses, but I hope that helps at the very least!
@@philsguidetopsyd Thank you, man. I am looking into Uminn Ph.D., Wisconsin Madison Ph.D., and Minn Mankato for PSYD and wanted to know the difference. The critical difference it looks like, is the amount of research vs. clinical practice in school. Do you know if both have the same credibility when it comes to private practice and the professor route? I would assume the PH.D. would be more geared towards professors, but maybe they are both universally accepted similarly. I think it is also important to note that I want to still work in a school setting so I may be leaning more towards the PSYD in that regard.
Great questions, I'm not too familiar with those programs. PhD tends to lean more towards academia and teaching route. If you stay in the states, the PsyD/PhD is respected fairly equally in terms of jobs. PhD applicants are more competitive for internships and post-docs, but when it comes to actual jobs, most organizations are in need of mental health professionals that they won't care too much whether you have a PsyD or a PhD. This gets a little tricky internationally as the PsyD is not as recognized internationally outside the u.s. as the Ph.D. These are great questions to also ask the schools, they might be able to give more detailed info on what might be the best fit for you. Best of luck!
@@philsguidetopsyd thank you for taking the time to respond Phil. Thank you for this information. I will look more into it!
After psy d can I go for research.?
Yes research is available typically after psyd in academic settings.
Do we need to look for a guide for PsyD in Clinical Psychology like we need to have a guide for a PhD in Clinical Psychology??
Guides for PsyD/PhD are pretty much the same, since they both take the same licensure and can do the same things clinically. They are just kind of like different paths to get to the same destination. Hope that helps!
@@philsguidetopsyd I meant, do we need to identify a faculty mentor for PsyD like we have to for PhD?
@@shilpagadre2226 Most likely. Also most schools will pair students with a faculty member to help them on their dissertation, this is the same for both PsyD and PhD, and that faculty member acts as a guide/mentor
After mphil in psychology then psyD is 2 year program right?
This might depend on the country. If in the U.S. a masters in psychology would still mean a 4-6 year doctoral degree in clinical psychology. Some countries might have joint programs. Hope that helps!
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How many years is phd in neuropsychology
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Plz Phil reply me
A PsyD/PhD in clinical psychology is 4-6 years in the U.S. then for psychologists who want to specialize in neuropsychology they usually do a 1 year internship with an additional 2 years of fellowship
@@philsguidetopsyd thank u Phil for replying🥰