Activision Managed To Be EVEN Worse
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Activision's mask is firmly off, with them adding ever more absurd gameplay impacting cash grab.
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It will never be the norm. It's one of the reasons AAA gaming is fading away.
I'm at the point where I will not buy a game until I read plenty of reviews and find out how bad the microtransactions are. If everyone did that, the gaming industry would take a huge financial hit and quickly change course.
That sponsor spot makes me think my cat would _lose his mind_ at stars projected onto the wall. The potential entertainment value got me to click on the link to see what they're about.
@BellularNews are you ever going to discuss the "elephant in the room"?
From what you said that you remember challenges in the games to unlock stuff. That hit hard. I remember that that was basically the only reason to care about cosmetics, so you can go brag to your friends. Now, it's like you buy something and you don't even want to let your friends know that you've bought it because you know for a fact it's a waste of money. (I haven't done in game skins at all for years now, but it causes games to be ruined.) I would much rather unlock something, feel accomplished, and be able to say, for instance, "I beat Halo LASO alone to unlock this." Hayabusa armor for Halo 3 I believe.
Guys look up sker ritual if you like zombies it’s a good replacement I really really recommend it
Multiplayer games are no longer about skill or having fun. It is about who spends more money on them. I refuse to participate on this bullshit.
They want to be the american equivalent of the korean gaming playscape, as p2w and gacha are normalized there.
I have no issue with buying merch or skins for a game as long as the game is fun and doesn't intentionally waste my time. I buy skins for Rust for example, and on the marketboard you're getting things for less than a quid. I'll happily drop 20 extra noop on something if I know I'm getting a lot of good quality skins, but this paying 20 lids for a colour change is a joke.
It's not all multi-player games. Try some indie stuff like Lrthal Company
I haven't touched a MP game for over a decade now, due the MTX and live service ****
I have completely detached myself from such gaming.
I see no fucking purpose to be a sweaty "gameplay worker" in order to extract value out of my "battle passes". You can no longer even have fun, you literally have to log in every day (like you're going to work, saturdays and sundays included) and farm this shit, but you first have to pay for the privilege of having to earn it in the first place.
“Activison sinks lower.”
That’s an ever green breaking news story.
Next story "Activision has gone underground!"
@@MorbidEel activision spotted in australia
Soon activision will get lower enough for breaking in hell. They will feel in home
Just waiting for news that Activision's buying a drilling company so they can dig even LOWER.
@@MorbidEelthey already were. Clearly they've dug themselves through the entire earth and Ended up on australia
Wasn't Microsoft supposed to magically fix Activision Blizzard? I haven't heard from these people for some time. I wonder if they still have hope.
Just like Destiny was supposed to be fixed after Bungie left activision
@@Graavigala85no excuses. Microsoft was supposed to make them better remember
@Graavigala85 well that was never going to happen. For the original post I was hoping Microsoft would pull on the reins a little but I don't pay Activision games since ghosts or ww2
That only if you expect Microsoft to actually get involved with these studios and fire the leaders of these studios responsible for this crap. Microsoft won't do that until it's too late pretty much. Look at 343 and Halo: Infinite. It would've been nice to see Microsoft learn their lesson and actually crack down on their studios from being stupid.
Remember when we hoped they fixed Bethesda? Yeah... me neither
Man, Call of Duty isn't even recognizable anymore. They've sacrificed so much creativity for the sake of money that it's almost depressing. I hope karma comes for Activision for their shitty business practices
Pretty sure Karma did kick Activision in the balls at some point but it wasn't hard enough...
oh it will, give them two more years and 3 more layoffs
I feel like the fact that they've managed to coast for this long just speaks to how incredible the work of the designers who got to actually focus on fun > profits was.
I'm sure some people dgaf and whale for them, but I have a feeling a LARGE percentage of the rest of their playerbases are stuck in games/IPs they used to love. I can't imagine thaaaat many people voluntarily opt in to games that are built entirely around monetization like this.
They peaked with world at war and the first modern warfare though black ops 1 was great then its downhill since
call of doodoos hasn't been recognizable since forever
So... FOMO, False value, price anchoring, bundles, 'sales', left over money, inefficiency, flashy adverts, crossovers, convolution, gambling, and now peer pressure. This is every single tactic that I can think of that COD/Activision uses to beg for money. JFC
99% of Activision employees work on coming up with methods to rip you off.
Anyone still playing COD in 2024 deserves everything they get
Well said, Dude.
I have never felt more vindicated in my decision to leave Activision games behind.
Amen.
I never touched them in the first place
It truly is the decision that keeps paying off isn't it? It's like an investment, every annual quarter you get to point and laugh and realise how great of a decision it was to not touch their shit.
5:35 "Unfortunately, not THAT Tracer."
Give it time. Activision will probably find a way to shoehorn Tracer into a CoD game.
For now, play with Lilith with assault rifle 🥴
Microsoft's hands off approach working wonders
Yeah, they really should be getting involved with the studios they get immediately when they get these studios, especially if they aren't in great shape. At this point, they should not be focused on making 'all' of the money and rebuilding the reputation of their studios.
@@urazz7739I’m pretty sure Microsoft is getting involved. This greediness is microsofts doing 😂. This was the whole point in acquiring abk to completely cash cow call of duty and the mobile market…..
hands off? Do you seriously believe they are hands off?
I mean... It's Activision
I doubt Microsoft had anything to do with it
More likely they would've done it regardless of their buy out
@@jakubekch.3621 but I’m sure Microsoft encouraged them to continue. Bobby is out remember? Abk probably talked about being more consumer friendly and misft said nah keep doing what you’re doing it’s going perfectly. Quit acting as if Microsoft has absolutely nothing to do with things getting way worse suddenly 😂.
We have gone from "HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSION OLD MAN!" To "Why should we even bother"
The disconnect between consumer and companies are just shifting deeper and deeper. Executives really do not know how real life works at all
They’ve been drowning in money for so long that they don’t know what it’s like to not have money.
I'm so glad that my childhood games didn't have gambling. Just depressing.
As everything progressive.... more you pay, more they expect. The only winning move is to not play the game.
Give an Inch, And modern Cooperate suits will try to take the fucking Province.
Microtransactions have proved to be a slip-in-slide directly to exploitation of a player base. I also remember when cosmetics in game were something you just got access to OR could eventually unlock just by playing the game. No limited times to trip your FOMO, no nickle-and-dime to chip away at what seems a reasonable price. At worst back then, it was just some time playing the game.
It's so sad that this probably won't get better until it gets much much worse, largely because there's a sizeable chunk of consumers that defend this sort of stuff
When it becomes less socially unacceptable to play cash-grabby games the way it's no longer fashionable to smoke cigarettes or do hard drugs (please tell me kids don't think hard drugs are cool now), like "lol ur wastin ur life and $ on that, play real games", then we'll see some improvement
And so it went, the slippery slope slid and the already flimsy defense of "it's just cosmetic" completely eroded.
F∆∆∆ Activision!!!
"Imagine you have four friends" - now now Bellular, be kind 😂
Silly Activision, whales don't have friends!
This really reminds me of when they used to monetize maps behind map packs, so if your friends had the map packs and you didn't it, split the community up. This is just the dumber version because it's paywalling and splitting players based on progression boosting...
Gross.
In other news the sun is bright.
Breaking News this just in: Water is wet.
Buying a loot box or a "gacha pull" or whatever the kids are calling it now is gambling, and raising the price on each "pull" of that slot machine is milking a bad habit. Either sell the stuff outright, or, preferably, let us unlock this stuff by finding it in the single player campaign or beating specific challenges. That's the way god intended.
I still think it's hilarious looking at Crash Team Racing's remake and seeing the STARK difference in unlocking the original unlockables by proving your skill in specific challenges, versus the new way that involves either spending a ridiculous amount of time grinding coins, or spending real money to buy the fake money to buy the characters. One's impressive and rewarding, the other's manipulative and hollow.
Thumbnail "Exploitative"
Title: "Activision"
Me: "Gee, you don't say."
Aimbot providers are less exploitative than Activision.
I definitely contributed to this problem. The one redeeming factor that MW2 had going for it was DMZ, and I was absolutely part of the problem. I bought black cell battlepasses for just 1 skin and maybe 1 or 2 blueprints. I also bought a lot of bundles just for operator skins, my whole group did.but DMZ became infested with hackers as soon as the dlc called MW3 launched and I have since moved on. I guess I trolled myself?
Well, you seem to have learned a lesson from it, knowing what you got "scammed" on. Identifying the issue is a great start!
Watching this 10 years ago would seem like a bad satire
$90 to play a WoW expansion 3 days early. Buy awful looking skins for $16 and pressure your friends too, otherwise you're wasting time. Yeah, that Microsoft deal is really coming along. I'm never buying anything from them again.
Yeah there's a trend with 3 days early lately. Cashing in on the streamer crowd I guess. normal consumers rather just wait till launch than pay extra
The best part is when you either can't play the 3 day early access you paid for cause it's broken or it plays wonderfully until the launch update happens and then it becomes broken 😂
@@e3vL1 You'd normally be right, but this is not a singleplayer game. It's an MMO. The first week's launch hype where we all get along and explore a new world matters a whole lot more than the weeks and months that follow an expansion (or at least the same). It's a race, but you can pay to not have your legs cut off at the start, like everyone else. Doesn't feel good either way.
They didn't have to do this by the way, retail player numbers are at a historical low, and the past expansion launches have already been very smooth.
I feel like the main issue is we are becoming more and more accepting of micro transactions.
We need to come out against all even games like helldivers where we pretend it’s ok cause they are doing it the “right way”
After all lots of these games did it the “right way” when they began.
But we won’t. So company’s will still know if they weather the temporary anger people won’t care in a week or so and buy it.
The meta of video game dlc is to find a way to get players themselves to shame their friends for not also buying the dlc. Making it so your friend directly contributes to you not getting the bonuses you paid for because he didnt pay for them as well... That's a great way to do that.
idk why ppl cry about this, to me DMZ UAV starter packs were the gameplay drawing line, XP bonuses are not P2W, unlike Self R and free UAV, nice research bellular
We need countries to start passing legislation that make any transactions that will lead to gameplay modifying functions/features illeagal (ie paying directly or with premium currencies purchasable by cash)
"You think you do, but you don't".
Actually true in this case. What is needed is for people to stop giving Activision money. Any attempts at legislation will fail. Companies will find other way to screw over customers and/or game the system.
Go play something else, stop supporting those corpos.
P2W isn't even bad. You think any backlash about it would be even a tiny fraction as loud if it was all just honest "here's 10$ gun that has stats superior to any other gun"? It's the scummy ways monetization is implemented (and researched) that's the issue.
(in ideal world we would also get ability to host private servers where we could disable p2w items, so skill-purists can enjoy the game as much as people with extra spendable income).
Remember how kids were/are getting bullied for having basic skins in fortnite? Now they can also get bullied for not buying the exp boost skin in cod as well!
If the "bullying" you received in school was just someone making fun of your video game skin, you had it GOOD in school.
We used to make the "skin diff" joke in games like League and Overwatch when your team had fancier skins than the other team. It was never supposed to be an idea pitch to these fools.
I appreciate your commitment to calling out scummy practices that slowly erode at the purity of fun games. And to those who simply say “just don’t buy it”, it’s almost like they are incapable of future pacing trends.
I think there is some general bias from every young generation that since they see themselves as the future, they think their current version of the world is here to stay. But eventually they learn that their version of the world fades away to yet a new generation. And the things they thought were set in stone are now changed.
Look to the past to prepare for the future.
I just started reporting these companies to the FTC for predatory practices. Not that it's doing anything, but it makes me feel good.
I haven't bought a COD game in 13 years. Saw it going down hill all the way back then. Can't imagine how people are playing it today.
Didn't even talk about how Hearthstone tripled the requirement for weekly quests for the Tavern Pass which if you bought at the start of the expansion just happen to just go over the refund window period.
Gaming studios nowadays either want the gamers to focus on AI or don’t game at all.
If the people don’t jump to AI there won’t be a WEB 3.0 for those that are just “casually gaming.” It’s like a new social hierarchy of some kind.
So glad we gave up on CoD long ago. We dont buy their games so we dont need to worry about this. Simplae as that.
The problem for activision with peer pressure skins is that it also backfires, it squeezes more money from the die hard player base, but also puts up a barrier to entry for the rest.
Try convince a friend to play a game, if then you need to pressure that person to also buy a skin, it would be a much tougher sell.
My guess is that this boosts short-term revenue and hurts in the long-term.
With these predatory micro transactions makes me think Bobby never left.
Activision being exploititive truly insane
Ages ago, i went to a lazer tag event. I am a nerd. A nerd friend was having his stag, at a lazer tag place. So. I went.
By the end of the evening, i learned one of the group was a "role player". Basically, a subscriber to the site. They kept his stats on their leaderboard, and he had orher perks. The one that caught my attention was he had an abbreviated downtime for his gun when he was tagged. He knew he had x seconds of immunity, so he'd scout out his opponents and he knew exactly where he could shoot them from on the complicated wooden maze. He was an eccellent shot, and used each advantage to the max.
Why should modern games not be like real life? With "role players" in every game, making the game die, because it is not fair.
I think obvious inequity will kill the game. I walked away from lazer tag because unless you paid extra you couldmt keep up. Any computer game is the same. The marketplace kills it with lack of funding. Or it doesn't. I can't see people paying anything for a game that makes them obviously inferior.
I lost interest in Activision after they lost their license for the Star Trek RPG series and cancelled one of the Star Trek games back in the 80 and 90.
Halo Reach allowed you to unlock the extremly elusive Reach armor in Halo 3. This shit has been going on for a loooong time.
Why did CoD abbreviate "CoD Points" ???
This seems a lot like the old facebook casual game MO of tying advancement, or at least grind reduction, to harassing your friends about the game in order to drive onboarding. Honestly a little surprising that shame restrained them this long.
Yes yes, but where is the kitchen sink? i feel that this is missing from the game.
Activision's mask is firmly off and it's just phantom Bobby Kotick underneath.
No matter how bad monetization gets, so long as cod players keep playing cod, activision is gonna keep pushing that depth.
Something tells me Activision Blizzard will be the core reason Microsoft suddenly slams the hammer down and starts cracking down on what their developer studios are doing. Obviously, Bobbies' corruption and influence have permeated the entire studio to the point that nothing short of the hammer coming down will stop it from spreading or getting worse.
Activision just solidified themselves into the "do not buy" pile with Ubisoft. If you want to make people hate gaming and themselves, this is the way to do it. What a depressing world...
I got better value out of those "Hulk gloves" that lit up and said "Hulk smash!", or the "Thing gloves" that were the same thing, but said "It's clobberin' time!".
"Make your friends buy this thing" Yeah... that's great Activision, because that's what my friends want, to be harassed by me to buy things... That's going to go down very well.
Kinda like recruit a friend on WoW, it doesn't work because everyone already knows about WoW, people who know about it, play it and recruiting new people to play it is incredibly difficult. Most people just make their own account. I recall seeing similar on I think it was Netflix "Tell your friends about Netflix!" sorry... who the hell doesn't already know it exists?
Most of all though, I just don't badger my friends about things. I don't tell them to buy things, I don't try and filch money out of them... Which is probably a big part of why I have friends. I haven't chased them all away.
It's infuriating seeing this happen and people STILL PAY FOR IT. Like come on guys. They will stop doing this if it stops working it really isn't that hard of a problem to solve
Holy shit that Keep gacha. Acti have managed to out-gacha the Asian mobage markets. They're more predatory then a shovelware korean cashgrab. They've reached heights of greed and villainy that no-one thought possible until now.
I will literally never understand why anyone buys battle passes. If i give you money for something, i want it now. Not a chance to get something. How to people not understand that.
The most optimal path is to leave the gambling site on mobile only, and using what you get in it to be used on the other platforms, so that non-mobile players of the game will be forced to go play the mobile game to get them.
Man, remember when video games were about fun? AAA doesnt mean shit anymore except for how much money they can make their shareholders.
Remember when ppl said Microsoft buying Activision Blizzard would "FIX" this company
Oh boy.... were they wrong
Damn COD has gone off the deep end. 80 bucks for Kong’s Fist my god, and the group skins pay to win double XP. Remember OG MW2 never had to buy anything other than get into a lobby spend your time grinding for those top tier weapon skins. Now your money is all that matters. Remember this new COD was an expansion they pressed as a full installment game for 100+ bones.
Bravo! I've never seen someone take early 20 minutes to say, "Don't play this trash."
"Abusive Activision monetisation? Pah, what's new. Like it could possibly get worse."
Ok, I was wrong.
“Money money money arghargharghargh!!!!!!!”
Watching the guy in the video literally get the worst possible roll each time seems like it's 100% not rigged at all. He had to spend all his points to get the highest reward. Adding gambling into a game is disgusting.....we need regulations in games like this.
I’m starting to feel differently about things like, if there are idiots that’ll keep buying into the stupidity then go for it
There is an old saying in my country: As long as there is cattle, there will be butchers.
"SNOOP DAWG" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just when you think they can't be more insidious.
if you thought that, then you aren't paying attention.
I've never seen the screen of the CoD battlepass before but that Godzilla NES map looking nightmare is literally the worst battlepass and design of one I have ever seen in my life. What the hell have we come to?
Activision almost makes me appreciate the slightly less garbage companies like Ubisoft or Bethesda.
You're missing a big point on the gambling in the mobile version. No, it won't "make it into the main platforms", because this is how they plan on getting around anti-gambling laws. "Call of Duty doesn't have any gambling mechanics IN it." No, you have to go somewhere ELSE, gamble THERE, and get the rewards in Call of Duty.
After leaving pvp multiplayer games behind for years, I find myself drawn back to just check on how horribly things have progressed every now and then. It's like some horror clown show. I hate it, but I just can't look away.
The crazy thing is that it's genuinely possible that Activision and EA combine to kill Xbox and Playstation consoles. Like, there's a market for consoles; it's not me ragging on them. But when the big ticket exclusives are non-stop whale-fishing, double dipping, and new games are little more than map packs and rebalancing, people are going to leave faster than they join.
I'm now fully sold on the idea that, if you as the developer cannot explain to me the net and gross benefits of the item you're asking me to buy in less than two sentences, you're just out to *%*$ me over for profit.
How did go from games about jingoistic power fantasies to slot machines and 24/7 Halloween?
I stopped playing cod when they wanted me to level every weapon to 70, for attachments that aren’t even available on those weapons. It’s meaningless grind to inflate playtime and get you to buy stuff, it’s not what cod was or should’ve ever become. Until that changes I will not be buying another cod
I gave up on them when I needed an activation account and to always be online to play single player campaigns. I got my refunds at least. I can see why these companies make people like to sail the seven seas.
Hey, it looks like Bobby was quite a convenient scapegoat.
miss when call of duty was more grounded in more realistic aesthetics
i mean, they've already had pay to win op weapons before, weapons exclusive to lootboxes, and a patented gameplay adjustment thing to make excessive buyers get better matches.
You get what you pay for. In this meaning if you keep paying them for their actions, then they will keep trying to fleece you for even more money. And that is a fugly skin on top of it.
This "cosmetic" pay to speed up buff is the kind of thing old time parents don't understand about modern games. I saw some really dumb comments on this lawyer Youtbue channel by people who don't know anything about games like Fortnite. Now if you buy this skin for your kid, and they get grounded for a week, then their friends don't get as much exp unless they dig up another person with the skin. And especially if they do, then the kid that got grounded is losing out on all of the experience. By preventing your kid from playing the game any reason, not even kids, anyone of any age who enjoys this game, if you don't use it right now and constantly, you're losing value on your money spent.
i already bought this in dead by daylight when the best way to get bloodpoints was by buying leatherface for $5 who had a perk that let you get double bloodpoints every game
Which game was it that basicly did the "the Keep" thing (looked exactly the same as this), but made it so that the epic and legendary item always dropped last? Was it cod mobile? Feels like something they would try.
I genuinely thought Call of Duty would get better with all the MTX when they were bought by MS… I didn’t expect it to get worse
The best way to end the grind, is to never start in the first place.
I've never been a fan of chance or gambling when I spend my money. I want to know exactly what I'm spending my money on. I don't like loot boxes. I don't play a game to wonder what's going to happen. I play a game to escape from what's happening.
OH but I thought Microsoft buying them was gonna fix everything? ....SHOCKED, I tell you. I AM SHOCKED.
damn bro i never knew a fraction of their monetization this stuff is WILD
All this stuff gets fucking deleted out of existence when they decide to drop Warzone 3. The rats have been through this maze before but they didn't fucking learn.
MLM cosmetics basically, what a wild and disgusting concept. lol
I still remember CoD being a single player series about shooting nazis. If 12 year old me knew how bad video games would he come she'd probably have picked a different hobby...
I saw the black cell bs when I was still playing MwII and thought it was a scam. I didn’t bother buying MWIII cuz I knew it was gonna be more of the same with the battle pass being cut back further in favor of the black cell that costs more
I'm just sitting over here playing factorio, and patting myself on the back for not buying "Triple AAA" Vomit
Ugh, the fact that Microsoft bought activation now means I'm investing in this. Disappointing.
I’m pretty sure you could get a stock in the S&P 500 for this price at this point
Off Topic.
Been watching this Royal Mail Inquiry where your justice system threw some 200-300 innocent people in jail Because some lady was pure Evil. Please tell me the people of England are pissed about this shit? As an American im curious
I didnt know i needed this until you explained it buying asap