EDDIE THOR TALK 501 DEADLIFT FACE TO FACE
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- Did Thor's Deadlift count? Did Eddie's?
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That middle man is the bravest man alive
😂 😂 He do be
😂😂😂 true
No he just planned to back off at the right moment.
Lol
Show respect. His name Kugan
I take the Brian Shaw view: “I don’t doubt that Thor actually lifted the 501. However, it should not have been officially recorded as a record.”
Yeah he really should have pushed to 505 or 510, he probably could have too
It was a fully sanctioned event set up by WUS, it wasn’t Thor deciding to set something up for himself. Also he did the lift under stricter conditions than what Eddie did
@@richardthomas3697 nah i heard it was fake plates with his dad weighing them very dodgy. Cant trust thor after he was caught cheating in WSM with the double dipping and then tried to pretend he wasn't, guy has a history of bending the rules to cheat a win.
Makes you wonder how many other events he did this type of thing, but they let it slide cause he was a huge pain in the ass about it all, i remember also he was always trying to take points away from other WSM athletes, which is pretty shitty and that is why no one likes him and he is becoming more and more irrelevant, kinda reminds me of steven segal.
@@ATomRileyA Steven is the toughest man in the. World...
Bruce Lee afraid of him...
Cause Steven could sit on him and kill him
Brian Shaw should have been the mediator here
Northman v. Saxon... eternal rivalry
*Viking VS Saxon
i prefer the womans jelly wrestling version
@@user-dc9oq2pr6vthat’s like saying pirate instead of Saxon
Eddie got a bit of Viking dna in him for sure. Got that BNC for one century. Not pure Saxon
The mountain vs the beast
I lifted 502 yesterday in my garage btw. Video tape was lost but you guys can trust me.
As long as you dad weighed the weights I believe congrats on the World Record
Billie Mitchel of dl
They should just fight and see who’s the winner and settle this once and for all
@@Arto343434 they did 😂
@@Arto343434 yeah thor won
The two strongest men in existence in one room. "Your weights are fake. no u"
Producer nervously sweating: "Call the zoo and tell them to bring all the tranquilizing guns they have!"
After watching Eddie's ridiculous boxing prep, I'm convinced he's a 12 yo in a gigantic man's body
@@DivineAtheistWannabe yet you are the one in the comment section talking shit to a man who doesn’t even know you exist 🤣
@@DivineAtheistWannabe he would drop you
This comment is underrated
eddie says things to get thor mad
Thor gets mad
eddie : calm down mate
He speaks truth.
Banter is different from insulting lmao
Eddie is a master level troll and Hathor can't help but bite every time.
🧢
@AlbertaStrength Yeah, I remember when Eddie went on to beat Thors ass in the ring....oh wait.
2:52 - best moment. Eddie just made several points about about Thor’s 501 lift (whether you think their valid criticisms or not), but Thor jumps straight to “I have more records than you.” Says a lot.
Hall responds perfectly to that too. Doesn’t get mad or change the subject, just says “I don’t care because it isn’t relevant to this discussion”
I thinks it's unfair because being interrogated in ur non native language isn't easy
@@stevenmai4930 Tbf I do think that plays into a lot of it
@@etghacould have had his friends and family there too for translating 🤣🤣
his other world records are similar kind of lift to the 501kg deadlift
so it just shows that he is the greatest of those type of lifts and backs up the dead lift
@@stevenmai4930hardly matters when he is fluent in both
Eddie blew the world record out of the water when several doctors and coaches never thought it was possible. Thor added 1kg. He may be stronger but Eddie's personality shines stronger.
Eddie's personality: can't accept irrefutable defeat with all of these conspiracy theories. Doesn't matter if it's by 1k or 50kg. The record was beaten. He could have just been proud with his place in the history having increased the record by so much. Could have been like the 4 minute mile or 10 second 100m. Every record will get beaten by some amount on a long enough time frame.
@@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fightsI don't see needing to be 60lb heavier to lift 1kg more a feat🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣
On top of no jet lag
Lifting with friends and family
No nerves
No auditorium
Beat by 1kg vs like 30-40kg
In home gym
Are you okay?
I agree that Eddie’s lift is by far more impressive and also that Hafthor doing his lift in his own gym is a disgraceful when compared to beating the world record in a competition. However, their weight difference is completely irrelevant. Hafthor is 7 inches taller than Eddie. If anything Eddie actually has more mass than Hafthor relative to height. Either way it isn’t worth mentioning when the weight limit is unlimited.
EDDIE a cry baby xD
People tend to forget that thor had a number of FAILED attempts . It took him years, to get that record broken Eddie set.
Not taking away from both men, they were in their prime just incredible in their own right.
But I feel Eddie should have been more of a sportsman. That really was super disappointing.
Hafthor truly is one of the greats of the sport, but in all honesty -- Eddie's right about more or less every single point. That whole 501 setup, doing it in the comfort of his home gym, no competition pressure, no time limit, control over warmup, no representative, only 1 kilo increase... The whole thing is bogus as hell.
Eddies points are so fucking dumb, it was on video you can easily disprove all of this. Thors dad put the plates on the scale, Magnus approved the weights and signed them which you can see on film, Magnus is an official who officiated hundred of Eddies lifts. The point about a home gym is bullshit, home turf has never been a factor, it is still 501 kilos whether you are in your grandmas bedroom or in front of every official who has ever lived, only people who have never lifted and Eddie Hall care about this point because every other strongman including Eddie Halls best friend Brian Shaw says the lift was legit. ESPN livestreamed the event, they can get sued for lying about this, The lift was performed under competition rules with the same breaks and time limits between lifts as any other competition. Which this point actually works in favor for Thor because for Eddies lift there was a significant break in his 500kg lift as host for the event spent ages hyping up the crowd and doing an interview with Eddie Hall before his lift, so Thor got LESS time inbetween his lifts than Eddie did.
I mean.. a great counterargument for Thor would be to ask 'Okay, why don't you do 502kg under the same circumstances?' Eddie is right, it does play a huge role, but Thor was being dumb for not asking that
@@antreasAnimations No because Eddie has been retired for many years.
*False. Competition makes no difference, not when the second closest guy was barely pulling 470kg.* Thor could’ve pulled 520kg on that day. Looked how easy it left the floor. Eddie is best friends with Collin price for years. It was dodgy how much influence Collin had, and how he kept leaking events to Eddie to prepare for.
Thor had no choice because of the pandemic, Thor's lift was likely legitimate.
Imagine trying to stop two of the worlds strongest men from beating crap out of each other.
Or watch the boxing game they did :)
Not hard just use jujitsu
HHHHHmjHHHHH
HHHHHmjHHHHH
Even if i have a 5.56 rifle in my hands, I'll be scary as fuck
Thor legit thinks the entire strongman community has gifted Eddie everything he's ever done the man is Insane..
Thinks Eddie is the golden boy, while he is a movie star that even my mom knows.
@@mzzaHAFTHOR IS A SNAKE THAT BEFRIENDED EDDIE TO SYPHEN OFF HIS ENERGY TO BE LIKE HIM AND DESTROY HIM. I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE. I NEVER HEARD HAFTHOR SAYING ANYTHING MOTIVATIONAL ABOUT WSM BUT EDDIE IS SO HUMBLE HE SAID IN A VIDEO “IF YOU WANT TO BE WSM. GO OUT AND BE WSM” NO LIE EDDIE HALL SPOKE SOME WORDS INTO MY SOUL. THAT’S WHY EDDIE HALL IS MY FAVORITE WSM OF ALL TIME.
Now thor is gone hit 505kg he up@@vincentven1262
Lol the beginning! How Halfthor goes from extremely calm and collected to randomly screaming cracked me up
Definetly a roid rage moment
The juice messes up with the mind...
I believe Thor WAS capable of breaking the record. I'm not doubting his capability. But doing it in his home gym was a HUGE advantage that no other strongman has ever been given.
Agreed the pace of a competition can change everything! Also being in full control his warmup weights! And to not have done ANY event prior to the attempt!
Thor had many advantages over the normal setting at the deadlift world championship! I think Thor could have surpassed 505kg in comp if he would have kept going!
Eddie was capable of breaking his own world record when he set it.
What advantage? Was the gravity machine turned off for Thor? 501kg>500kg.
@@heath_00000 he got to warm up at his own pace. He got to pick all his weight jumps. He got to pick his rest times. Was basically a training session.....
One did what was previously thought to be impossible and the other did a single kilo more after knowing it could be done. Both are great but Eddie's lift was a way more significant milestone.
Nope. Eddie almost died Thor made it look like 95%. Theres levels to this
@@Smrda1312 nah. Eddie's lift was something like 30 kilos more than the previous world record before he lifted 500kg. Thor literally lifted 1kg more. We're not talking about the ease of a lift. That shit doesn't matter if they both got their respective weights up. We're talking about the importance of the lift and Eddie's 500kg deadlift takes it by a mile.
@@Rudy92284 Who cares looking at eddie you would think more than 500kg is impossible after thor we know more can be done
Hell yeah bruv spot on, he took a massive leap in weight todo the Impossible, 1kg more is too just be record holder that’s all
@@Rudy92284 And Thor still lifted more, so what?
I can't help but love how Eddie gets in Thor's head.
I love it how Thor beat him in the boxing remember Eddie trying to say he was a better boxer than most professionals😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thor has been living rent free in Eddie’s head as long has he’s been on the scene. Eddie is a literal child lol
Almost like Thor fists getting into Eddie's face 😂
@@1TieDye1 Figurative*.
Eddie is right. Still the heaviest deadlift ever done in competition. If Hafthor wanted to beat it he should've done it in competition as well.
But not the heaviest deadlift done in human history. That honor belongs to Hafthor, even if it's informal.
@@12801270able still wrong. There have been heavier deadlifts.
@@12801270able Where is the verification that he really did it though?
@@12801270ableI’ve actually lifted 502 in my home gym so I hold the record now, even if it’s informal. But trust me bro, my dad weighed the plates
Yeah its true, but i dont really give a shit about the "in competition" clause and apparently hafthor didn't either.
Eddie's lift is more significant because it was a leap of 35 kilos and an amount of weight that was previously thought to be beyond human capabilities. Hathathor's 501 is a product of the confidence that Eddie created in the 500 and adding a kilo. As far as their arguments against one another I think it's a lot of BS from both of them. Eddie lifted 500 Hathathor lifted 501, the weights were right, the platforms legit, and the judging fair. But Eddie did what was believed to be impossible and Hathathor did 1 kilo more after Eddie showed it could be done.
I lifted 502, my dog weighed the plates personally
@@ted6580 😂
It’s wasn’t official tho
@@lilhuntxd That's kind of subjective. I was told it was a sanctioned competition that nobody showed up for because of COVID. That most fans and most people in the sport recognize it as a legitimate lift, sanctioned by an accredited organization, and judged by a licensed and respected judge within the sport. Eddie shouldn't care about the 501 because although more than 500, it didn't break new ground. Eddie's 500 shattered ideas about human capabilities, whereas the 501 is more or less saying fuck you Eddie I can do it to, but he would have probably never worked towards or attempted 501 had Eddie not pulled 500. If Eddie pulls 485, breaks the record by 20 kilos Hathor works his way up the 486 or 490.. That's where Eddie should be, satisfied with knowing he changed what we thought was possible and it was only through that feat that Hathathor pushed himself to match it. Any argument that either did not lift what they are credited with lifting is BS.
@@orionsimerl6539 Eddie should worry about 501 he’s not the strongest man then
For me, the lift of Eddie Hall was way more fascinating than the lift of Thor. Until That moment where Eddie lifted the half tone, everybody thought these amount of weight could never been lifted by a man and Eddie proved everybody wrong. Hands down, both of those lifts are absolutely astonishing but for me the true world record holder of the 500kg is Eddie Hall until the next guy comes who beats him on a competition platform.
We just need brian to put up 510 and sit them both down.
Don't get me wrong Eddie's was the lift that broke the line like the breaking of the 2 hour marathon run. They thought it impossible until someone did it. Now we know both are possible between the lift and the run. Since everyone knows it is possible it was only a matter of time for someone to break one of them again. I think in this situation Eddie is more mad that it got broken so soon and thought it would stand for years to come.
tbh,1kg difference seems rather strange, when counting weight above 500kg one kilogram seems to be withing margin of error. To me thats not significant enough difference so i would have no quarrel saying thats 100% record broken, if it was like 5kg than that would be indisputable to me, but not even one third of one percent increase over half ton weight, cool
@@Enkabardevery lb matters, plates should be weighed and done at a specific place that gets qualification to get successful attempts verified validated and published.
Thor is stronger, the end
Thor simply knew Eddie's words were true. And he took the worst line of defense -> Aggression over the arguments. That says a lot.
This makes me sad to see. These men are literal icons of the industry and their fighting amongst each other.
Difference being, Eddie respects other athletes and is a decent bloke . Thor is just a whining disrespectful child.
@@wiccanwarrior9agree!
Nothing new competitive people can get nasty with each other
Eddie respects other athletes as long as they don't take his records away 🤣
@@wiccanwarrior9I'd love for you to call him a whining disrespectful child to his face.😂
I lifted 515 in my home gym. Unfortunately, it was in pounds.
That’s not bad though right?
@@mrsentencename7334it's a good deadlift
Still excellent - which is insane to think how freaking strong these guys are
That's weak. I did 550! Grams, that is
@@dokterkarel was that in powder or flower?
I hypothesize that if I were 6 foot 9, acted in both a hit series and film, won World's Strongest Man, set the world record deadlift, and beat the dude whose deadlift record I broke in a boxing match, I wouldn't suffer the crippling insecurity plaguing Hafthor.
the best comment on this video by far. to me it looks like eddie is crying because he lost the match, which is why he keeps calling thor a cry baby, and thor is holding onto a scheme to push fake for fame, which is why he keeps accusing eddie of alll kinds of schemes. then it derails into both of them doing what the other guy does. we always project.
@@KalaMiDeviLlol damn i also wanted to say thats one of the best comments ive ever read 😂
Out of competition though?? Really 😂😂😂
@@KalaMiDeviLthis was part of the promo for the fight, it didn't take place after
Amen!
The internet does not have a long memory, but if you look back at some of the strongmen competitions that they did with each other team Thor has a really dodgy history with trying to overturn good lifts through complaints to the referee. This is a big reason why Eddie first began disliking Thor so much. It's also interesting that Thor would attempt to lie about his event being "live". Idk if it makes any difference, but boy did Thor get emotional when he was called out on it
"Calm down, calm down." To Thor.
My man...balls of steel. 💯 🙏
eddie is completely right, performing at "home" and performing in front of thousands of people is completely different, as he said if bolt was running on a track outside the olympic would it still be the olympic record? there are rules and those rules have to be equals for everyone, that's the base of a competitive sport. If the rules are bent then it's not a competitive sport. I believe he can lift 501 and probably even more after eddie showed it was humanly possible, but he needs to prove it in the right circumstances
Thor is such a pathetic, manchild crybaby. The guy can't handle the truth and is a compulsive liar
but bolt could theoretically run on a standardized track with judges or referees and set a new world record. it just wouldn’t be an olympic record. but it’d still be the fastest 100m in the world. if the question was “who has the strongest deadlift in strongman?” you can make a very strong argument for eddie. but if it was “who has the strongest deadlift in the world?” i don’t see how you could argue against it being thor. as far as what’s more impressive, i’m indifferent to it as i see this whole argument as dumb, but yeah you could say eddie’s is more impressive
no he isnt right. gravity is the same. eddie is just a sore loser.
@@defnotnath4nie129but it wouldnt be the record
@oldschoolpk No its 1 less. You're close though.
“Look in the mirror you fat pig.” With Eddie laughing aaannnndddd scene. That was gold.
Despite their conflicts and issues, I feel lucky to be living in a time when these giants are lifting earth shattering weights.
Being a fan for both of them, even I was like "only 1 KG difference?" and I don't want to like lessen the incredible feat of even lifting 500 KG, but I feel like thor could have lift way more. I also understand that he had a massive advantage too.
How does he have a massige advantage? He's taller, så he has to pull it up higher, which is a disadvantage, isnt it?
@@Dunce...did you even watch the video? Eddie lays out Thor’s advantages pretty well
@@Dunce...He's taller meaning he can put more muscle on and be stronger, Eddie will probably always be the weakest person to lift 500, if Thor pulled as hard as Eddie, passing out and bloodshot eyes ect, he could have done more than 501 easily
@@taiiiz3969 Eddie held it up for a while though, that is primarily what caused so much damage to his body
You all need to watch Brian break his reasoning down. The suspected cheating doesn't even factor into why this shouldn't be considered a world record.
Didn't think the feud between Saxons and Danes would take a twist like this.
😂😂😂
Some things never change 😂
🤣
🇬🇧😤
Eddie ethnically is actually half Scandanavian, his mother is full blooded Swede that was adopted by a family from the UK
🤣 thors face when eddie speaks facts is still priceless😂
Eddie got his ass kicked
@@ashtonpeppard3663barely, he knocked Thor down twice.
@@Mayan_88694 he got bitched that whole fight lil bro
Here is a fact: Cry baby Eddie got destroyed in the ring by the guy who broke his only WR, 2x loser lol
@@ashtonpeppard3663Neither of them can fight.
This will never get old
i didn't expect eddie hall to have a decent emotional maturity, the way he persisted and didn't back down when he explained how his friend was bullied into reffing
Magnus is Hafthor's friend
I don't feel too strongly either way about these guys or the situation but Eddie is right here. You can't just control every aspect of the environment from behind a camera and say it's the same thing.
Mate, it's just lifting weights. All you need to verify is 1) the weights actually weigh what they do and add up to 501kg and 2) trusted referees/judges of officially sanctioned Strongman competitions to their stamp of approval to the lift being performed successfully. There's no other variable that matters in this case.
@@12801270able that's not totally true. There are a ton of factors that go into competition lifting such as timing, travel etc, all of which can have a *huge* effect on the numbers moved. doing it on your own schedule, in your own gym is un unquestionable advantage and I encourage you to ask any competitive lifter the same.
@@12801270ablepleas tell me what a conflict of interest means?
After that please explain to me how thors own father being the one verifying the weight is not a conflict of interest?
Like that shit wouldnt fly in a high school competition but a world record? Sure why not!
I guess weightlifting is not a serious sport since the same rules and regulations dont apply to everyone.
@@12801270able Its more the fact he did only one kg more just to get under Eddie's skin. Thor is a scumbag always has been. Giant of a man can fight too but he's not an honrable man never has been. Brian Shaw is stronger than either anyways.
@@12801270able Exactly, except Thor didn't do those things
I feel like a Dragon Ball Z level fight could've broken out any moment
Given what the actual fight was like I don't think it would quite be DBZ
It looked like a child fight
I mean, if they did fight, they certainly wouldn’t be complying with any rules. They’d probably fight like silverbacks, just using all their weight upon each other
@@finestjellybeansrawlol9486 which is why I think they should let these guys have a cage match rather than boxing matches. That way we can actually see their strength in a combat setting
@@asketillus8679 nah that would be even worse, you'd end up with one of them laid on the other or leaning on them on the fence for half the fight. Bad heavyweight boxing matches are sloppy brawls. Bad heavyweight MMA matches are dry humping fests
Whether u like Them or not there's no denying both of these guys are absolute units.
I don’t understand why these guys hate each other so much. They should be friends.
Yeah it's really weird. Especially when all of their strongman friends are friends with both of them. Never understood the hate they have.
@@chrismccoy6481 I guess it's just ego really on both sides.
Because some people just dislike each other. It is the law of the nature.
Eddie doesn't hate Halfthor, it's Halfthor who started the drama because he lost to Eddie when he got the title of strongest man. Eddie did more perfectly executed repetitions on the viking press and Halfthor did 11 okay repetitions and 4 invalid ones and still complained after the judge took away only one point from him. Since then he didn't stop whining and Eddie just likes teasing people.
This is legitimately one of the scariest interviews that I have ever witnessed. Two of the strongest men on the planet getting upset with one another. If shit was to go south, there is no stopping them. Just get out of the way and get ready to rebuild the set. LOL.
@@YetAnotherRetardedYTUpdate But what you fail to realize is until that minute comes it is pure destruction these mountain of muscles will leave in there path
@@YetAnotherRetardedYTUpdate They would each fracture every bone in each of their bodys then require a few rest days
Nah if the biggest and best ufc fighters got pissed at eachother would be even scarier like
Francis ngannou vs Jon Jones
Agree 100% probably the scariest interview haha
At this point the best hope for security would be a zookeeper standing by with tranquilizer darts
Eddie enjoys this far too much 😂 love it.
Yeah i bet he enjoyed the fight to 😅
@@Kronos_gow He did, my man Eddie best the shit out of Thor with one hand basically, we all know his injury held him back. Thor doesn’t want to fight him in mma tho i wonder why ?
This is awesome, hahahah
that rivalry been going for centuries, and still is, love it haha
When Thor got loud in the beginning I literally jumped lol , Dude that big and powerful that's been practicing\training boxing some MMA and with cardio is scary AF dude
Thor dodging the questions tho 😂
Eddie's asking obnoxious questions. Like if the event was live or not on espn. That's a childish question.
@@RaikageSama Ye eddie takes the piss and tries to antaganize him but some of what he said was legit critisism that thor just ignored
@@joecexe1 Eddie already starts with so much bullshit that you can't even answer properly. Can't blame Thor.
First example would be at 0:30 _"there's other competitors there to verify it."_ Neither has anyone of them weighed the plates, nor did they leave a single good word about the Giants Live deadlift in 2016. Pritchett said he tore a hamstring because in contrast to Eddie, he couldn't choose the pause times - which is true if you watch the live stream.
Second example would be at 0:45 _"Who sanctioned it?"_ After Thor answers with "WUS" (which is correct), Eddie asked if anybody from WUS was there. Of course there weren't officials from WUS directly. The whole world was in lockdown mode. However, Magnus ver Magnusson, one of the most dignified official refs of WSM, ASC *and* WUS, was there to sign up everything.
Third example at 1:05 is just a straight up lie, which Magnus himself already denied.
Fourth example at 1:38 _"Who weighed the plates?"_ is a question that doesn't matter at all, since Thor's dad laid the plated onto an *industrially calibrated scale.* There is no room to cheat there.
Fifth example at 1:55 _"Rogue, Rogue, Rogue"_ ... yeah, so what? Rogue also sponsors WUS in general, as well as ASC. Also, Eddie's Giant Live deadlift literally had his own bar and floor mats on stage.
Sixth example at 3:20 _"It even says out of competition!"_ Well, if you call that farce that was Giants Live 2016 a "competition", you're lost anyway. That said, there are record breaker events in strongman for an eternity now - Brian Shaw's atlas stone record was also set at an event just like Thor's was.
Seventh example at 3:55 _"Was it live? No it wasn't!"_ Yes it was, as Big Loz confirmed.
@@BVZTIII I know next to nothing about the situation but I found your comment very insightful. From not knowing any context I can agree with you that it seems like Eddie is just throwing as much shit as possible at Thor to scatter him and disorient him.
The whole thing comes across like Eddie is very resentful and is trying to final confront the person he’s bottled up so much emotion over. The whole thing with him saying to prove he was in business with him was just childish. He knows they are in a setting where they can’t pull out there phones to look stuff up, so he’s using it to try and look like Thor is clueless. I don’t know if that is actually the case, I’m just giving my input as to what I can see
@@spweman thanks for the feedback 🤗
I could probably write a book by now about how Eddie contradicts himself... maybe one day I'll make a video about it, if I'm bored 🤷♂️
*Examples:*
At ASC, when Eddie broke the record on the elephant bar, he said it was the most difficult bar ever to pull. One year later, when Thor broke the record, he suddenly says they invent lighter bars to pull to finally beat his 500 kg record. Looking at Thor's *and* Eddie's respective records, it's safe to assume the elephant bar is harder to pull because of the swing.
One day Eddie calls himself the underdog because he's not as _"genetically gifted as Thor",_ the other day he makes a video literally calling himself out for having the _"Hercules gene"._
One day he says he nearly died during the 500 kg lift, the other day - seeing Thor being able to break his record - he suddenly says he could've done 550 kg.
Should be enough for now 😅
I love how this guys chilln in the middle as if he could stop these two monsters from going at it🤣
Lol
No he was there for the discussion not a fight lol.
The funny thing is Kugan (dude in the middle) is not a small guy, 6 ft 5. These two just make him look tiny 😂
@@iKyleTz dude can squat too, hence the bendy legs
@@iKyleTz dude can squat too, hence the bendy legs
Eddie won this argument in every way. Thor was acting like a child, skipping from point to point, while Eddie was actually proving his points with facts. Like they went from arguing about the 501kg deadlift, and when Thor couldn't win the argument he decided to speak up and say "Ay how many world records do you have??" and when Eddie responded with "I don't give a fuck" he genuinely meant it. Thor had nothing to back up his points, and Eddie's point about Thor's dad weighing the plates were also 100% valid. Thor may be the more humble of the two but Eddie won this argument.
The world record question was on point. Thor has more and they aren't doubted. So he has stronger ground for his dead life world record. If you've broke multiple world records before , it adds weight so to speak.
Followed Eddie for YEARS and then it got a bit too much and i fell off a bit, regardless, this man did NOT falter in this video, truly an absolute king, big respect.
Thor's deadlift was a great EXHIBITION lift. Amazing strength effort that shouldn't go unappreciated. Having said that, there are many many exhibition lifts on CZcams that are the same weight or heavier than what Thor pulled. I don't think there would be anyone who has competed in strength sports that wouldn't say Eddie's 500kg deadlift is far more impressive and mind blowing than Thor's 501kg. Competition lifts such as Eddie's are on another level when compared to home gym lifts. The factors involved such as not getting to choose when you lift, the order the competitors lift in, timing warm up sets back stage to coincide with your lift while everyone else is getting in the way doing the same thing, the amount of strength events you have already competed in that day that have depleted your energy store.. The list really goes on and on. For a world record in the strength world to count, it MUST be done in competition. That's the long and short of it. Eddie wanted to break the record for log press and asked the powers that be to stage an event so he could do it, and he was told "no, if you want to break a record, you do it in competition like everyone else". I don't see why Thor's "record" should even count considering he didn't follow the processes every other strength athlete before and after him has to follow.
Pretty much everything you said was false. According to gym vault there is one person who has deadliftet 501 or higher in a gym.
Eddie got to chose when he lifted. Eddie wasn't in the competition, he was just doing the deadlift, and thus didn't do any other events before that would fatigue him. It wasn't a coincidence that he was the first lifter, the event was for him and Jerry Pritchet talks about how he got injured due to it.
For a world record to count it must not be in a competition, no such rule exists and would void a lot of records.
That whole event was based around Eddie. The other athletes have come out and spoken about. Thor is bang on, Eddie is a cry baby, his whole persona was the 500kg deadlift that's all he really had plus 1 wsm then Thor took it and doesn't care. What Eddie did mentally and physically was incredible but, he talks too much shit.
Thor fanboys have entered the chat
@@CCC-gg1to you not being able to handles facts doesn't make other people fanboys. Couldn't care for either Thor or Eddie, just facts.
@@StrongestNatty how do you know I can’t handle facts? Which facts lol 😂
Thor leaving strongman never made any sense. I felt like Eddie pulled a fast one on Thor to get him to stop competing and winning potentially few more titles, by doing the boxing thing.
Having said that, Eddies 500kg is more of a moment in lifting history. No one had any controversy at the time it was done.
With Thor's lift everyone understands that it is easier to max out when you feel good on a chosen day at home etc... As opposed to a set competition day and time that requires waiting and less control on how things are done.
The day was set though. It wasn't just a good day at the gym.
@@specter1717able everyone misses the point it doesn't matter when and where, all that it matters Eddie record was beaten, if Thor didn't lift the 501 no one would have question where it was set.
@@michine112when and where do matter and its fact that he did beat it which is why people question it, someone who has been caught cheating in a comp having his dad weigh his weights in a home gym and beating a record compared to someone doing it in a full comp on a set day with a full live crowd and event is extremely unbelievable
@@bapo7323 you point is valid. I think as it this way. To get a record on guinness world records, it’s doesn’t need to be set in competition. Official come to make sure it’s done correctly. Same with Thor lift. It doesn’t matter who weighs the weights. As long the device is accurate. A trusted referee conducted the event. It was live, Rouge sponsored event. despite what Eddie said. You can’t defined your accomplishments from one lift and when someone beats you by one kilo. He started to discredit the event and really all his friends to do the same.
@@bapo7323 it only matters to the Eddie camp and his friends at WSM/Giant organization. Everyone else excepts it.
I love how Eddie just laughs at the end.
Wow Eddie.....I just found some respect for you I never thought I had....nail on the head brother....
Eddie Hall is basically a grown up version of Cartman, or an even better Southpark Character
Lmao - so true. I love south park and eddie
fuck yeah dude eddie is great!
Yea pretty many traits of antisocial personality disorder. Also on the more narcissistic side.
So true
lol
No doubt Thor lifted that weight, but out of competition in a comfortable home environment not in a venue and without that extra pressure sure does take some (very small amount) of the achievement away from him.
But wow Eddie gets under his skin and Thor seems to have a easily provoked temper, doesn’t seem like he’s used to people disagreeing with him.
Well it can't really be proven that he lifted 501 kgs, it might have been 499, 495, 490. we will never know. It should not count as a wr when it was in a home gym
@@bibo2728
I don’t now how the rules work on setting world records myself to be honest, but surely it must have been legitimate for it to have counted.
You may be right about the weight not be correct, but if it wasn’t then he would know that and everyone else that was there would and I highly doubt such a high level athlete would really want to cheat themself by lying…….but you never know.
@@bibo2728 it was weighed on camera and in front of the judge... What on earth are you talking about?
@@FrenkieWest32 Yeah his father... We can't start allowing world records to be sat in a home gym. thats bullshit
@@bibo2728 no, on camera and in front of the judge. Do I need to repeat myself? This talk about his father is just repeating Eddie but there is no point to it.
And records have been allowed to be set at home for decades, as long as it is confirmed by an official. Again, this is also just repeating Eddie's rhetoric.
The fact that no one was there to contest it is also a problem. He was the strongest in his home gym that day not in the world.
If you look at body language and how they communicate. Eddies calmer, more direct and less reactive. Thor is more reactive, obvious dodging questions and acts so defensively
Ever heard of Reactive abuse? Ambient abuse? That's what Eddie is doing to Hafthor. Eddie is bullying Hafthor. Hafthor is defending himself.
Not saying what I'm saying is true, that is my quick hypothesis on the situation without having analysed things to the detail.
I think Eddie took the W on all the debates. Every single time, he made Thor mad and then went on to tell him to calm down to make him look almost impulsive. Really funny watching it like a cycle/loop.
Inmy eyes, they both lost. Very childish
@@hah-vj7hc truly
@@hah-vj7hcwhat do you want them to do to promote their fight? It’s a business, and you need to make people want to watch. Use your brain
@@Unkn00wn315 Maybe English isn't your forte? But I will leave it to you to figure out what I said. You seem to favor using one's brain afterall
@@hah-vj7hc did I make you mad little boy
Thor has been training his agility hard… look at him bobbing and weaving around Eddie’s questions
🤣
He doesn't need his record questioned. Under the rules of Guinness World Records he's got the biggest recorded deadlift ever. If Eddy is mad he should complain to Guinness not Hafthor.
@@CatharticSense but it wasn't sanctioned by WSM due to covid so even if guinness says its a new record WSM says no its not due to it not being sanctioned by us and viewed by our Refrees and plates matched to 501
@@CatharticSense If you knew how much of a joke Guinness World Records are you would have used literally anything else. Hearing the record holder from a deaf goat would be better at lest those are harder to buy.
501 KG is legit. Plates are calibrated and off by a few grams. Bromley talked about this. Being much taller it was harder to do too.
This is just sad to watch. Respect to both strong men.
Eddie is gold and it’s a fair statement . If Thor’s dad weighed the weights etc then his record is questionable .
Thors dad put the weights on the scale, then Magnus signed them, they were only allowed to have 5 people in the room, Thor, Magnus, 2 people for the camera and live streaming and his dad, Thor and Magnus were not allowed to lift the weights to put them on a scale and the camera crew didn't want to touch them, so it fell to thors dad. Covid times were weird, but the point is not as sus as anyone makes it out to be.
@@klokar21 my point still stands !! Lol the record is questionable . Plus eddies lift was more impressive. In comp , big jump and he smashed it . Thor is just a salty egotistical clown
yea plus, thor was sleeping in his own house, own bed and very confortable. he was also able to choose the warmup weight. eddie was sleeping in hotels didnt choose the warmup weight, eddie had it much harder i dont think thor would get that
@@jacobdaley3888 facts !!
@@jacobdaley3888yeah because sleeping in hotels is so awful 😂 what a joke of an excuse
Where can I find the full discussion?
I feel that these records should only be given out at competitions, like how the power lifting community does it. If the lift happens at home, it doesn't contribute to your stats. Only the lifts at a meet or competition contribute to your records. That way, the weight can be verified by multiple people.
I was genuinely hyped when Eddie lifted 500kg; raising the record by 1kg doesn't seem like an achievement; at least go for a decent increase; 505 kg seems reasonable.
only diff is that eddie almost died and for thor it looked like a 3rd warmup round, u bais or did u look at both lifts? NA mongoloid detected
For me, Eddie is a champion and he went down as the first man in history. In addition, he did it in front of a big audience, where there was much more stress before the defeat, and in addition, Eddie loses with class. A true champion. Greetings from Poland Mr. Eddie Hall.
I dont think he was the first man in history but seeing the logic of this comment section i'd not be surprised if you believed that.
Eddie certainly doesn't seem to have "lost with class" according to the video where he's having a hissy fit and calling Thor a fraud.
All of Eddie’s points are valid. There’s a massive difference between a competition with fans and doing it on your own turf. I mean there. Statistically in major sports a home field advantage is legit. It’s not massive but anywhere between 53-60% of home games in the NHL, basketball, football, etc are WON by home teams. That’s a significant statistic in the long run. His DAD weighed his plates…not a neutral 3rd party. He set his own timeline for it, and the JUDGE he used for the event was the SAME JUDGE who he said was incompetent and had no idea how to judge (because he got pinged for a blatant violation during a SM event and lost the event). Cool, he looked like he struggled less than eddie BUT as a S&C coach for over a decade I’ve had clients that make every lift from 90% of their max to a PR look insanely hard…and I’ve had clients who make their max look effortless (but add another kilo and they can’t move it at all) so the “look” of the lift is irrelevant. A kilo is a kilo and beating the record by 1 kilo or 20 kilos or half a kilo is still a record breaking lift but Thor is a notorious cry baby and has been called out for his poor sportsmanship by competitors in the past so he can whine all he wants about his lift being valid, he would have found excuses if he blew the lift anyways.
They are both some of the world’s strongest men today. Tomorrow there may be a man that comes along that’s stronger. It’s just how it is. I hope they can be friends in the future.if you lift heavy with the intention of breaking records, make sure you i’s are dotted and t’s are crossed and it’s all witnessed and verified but the needed parties.
If things did get out of hand, there was no way Kugan could break it apart.
He'd have trouble breaking up a school ground fight, let alone these two.
These guys are weightlifters not fighters. They are the worlds strongest men, not the worlds most dangerous men. Idk how much exp kugan has in boxing but anyone with a bit could take these guys out.
He just needs to wait 5 seconds and they'll have a heart attack. Their boxing match was proof enough, they dieted for 2 years and worked on cardio and it was still awful especially for Eddie
@@thenewcamelot8873literally
@@cerovk6000 nah bro
Yeah you got beat the run around mill tall big guy with boxing
But these guys over here already training for boxing and the reach is too much of a difference
And why the hell boxing ?
Taekwando or Muay Thai would do a better job here
Muay Thai is all about string impact full kicks and punches
And Taekwando has kicks unmatchable
And no way you taking these guys out without kicks or having Tyson power
Boxing is not meant for self defence it's meant for a sport
Using hands and moving in a clumsy manner against big guys is the worst
Muay Thai has calf kicks to dismantle legs and has a literal move which involves climbing a very tall person and elbowing their head with momentum
I feel Eddie though. It wasn't an official competition where Thor broke it. So, questions are bound to be raised
Normally yes, but that wasn't what happened. Thor didn't skip any competitions or do anything shady, there was a global lockdown, all competitions were all cancelled. And nobody knew for how long, Thor did absolutely everything possible given the situation
@@rugbyfan808 You just typed some bullshit.
Someone says it want an official competition, so you type a paragraph acknowledging it wasn’t an official competition to say it was official lmfao
@@brandonhoover2120 no, I acknowledged that there were NO competitions at the time or in the planned future. So if no competitions happen because of a global lockdown that means the entire sport of strongman has to go on hiatus? What about when the Stoltmans did the Rogue Record Breaker attempts, would those also count for nothing?
@@rugbyfan808 dude 😂
You’re being a biased moron.
No competitions means it wasn’t a competition. It’s not a hard concept.
@@brandonhoover2120 I don't understand your point, of course it wasn't a competition. Nobody is saying it was. There were no competitions. Does Thor's deadlift count in your mind, or not?
Little over 10 years ago or so my husband was in strongman and saw travis ortmayer get into a fight with a 6’9 420 pound strongman backstage whose name eludes me, and i asked him what everyone did. He said we tried to sell tickets to the fight
Eddie is a legend, Halfthor was just trying to steal his thunder after he did the impossible... they were always rivals, but Eddie's build makes this lift much more impressive, and he added what was it 40kg to the known record? it wasn't even believed to be possible and he did it live in a stadium . Thor doing it in unofficial circumstances at home and adding 1 kg too it is weak tea, pissing match bullshit. he never would have attempted 501 if it wasn't for Eddie, and because everyone talks about Eddie's record, due to the circumstances, Halfthor is butthurt, well buddy, you're certainly not building praise for your records by being envious of Eddie... after all, what was it? 10 to one? you're just mad because he won the wsm tournament you both competed in when you were at your peak. get over it
Eddie has the competition world record and Thor has the home gym world record. I know which one I would rather have.
The higher weight?
@@billybobobennerexactly
One has a previous record and one has the record. That's it.
Home gym? So he did it at home? False. That gym is not at his home. Stop mindlessly repeating what other people tell you.
@@utewbd one has a legitimate undisputed record whilst the other will forever be criticised and questioned. I'd rather have the undisputed
Thor has to think in Icelandic, translate it to English then say it.. People thinking he's taking too long to answer means he's losing the argument...
Not how it works
@@nyetugjulu4367 that is exactly how it works.
@@mackenziebenedict8403 He's fluent in English?
@@Lickmabumbum His Icelandic is better than his English. Regardless, of how good his english is, he’ll still need to translate, then formulate a response, all the while on the defensive almost entirely
@@mackenziebenedict8403 I moved to Australia when I was 19 spoke little English now I’m 25 and speak more English than German and don’t make sentences in my head in German to say in English
1 kilo more is sneaky af
the fact that he tried to beat 500 with 501, alone is enough, nothing needs to be said
This
They are both good strongmen. Thor has an edge on Eddie when it comes to legacy. I am a fan of both competitors. That said, Thor's deadlift record is tainted. The circumstances surrounding it were strange to me. The fact that he only jumped one kilo in weight is kinda shitty if you ask me. He straight up used the Price is Right strategy! 🤣
I don't think incremental records are that outrageous, I've seen a number of world records set just 1kg over the previous one. The difference is those were done in competition.
@S P A C Y Yea, once you get to 500kg, 1kg probably feels like alot!
Yup. Eddie went from 465kg to 500kg. Ignoring the shady business around Thor's lift, Eddie is completely correct that Thor's isn't impactful in the slightest.
Personally, I think Eddie will have the better legacy due to his dedication and achievements in such a short time span. Not to mention the eyes he brought to the sport.
Eh. Overall they both won 1 WSM, and both set the deadlift world record. Eddie will always have the better legacy because of how insane 500kg was though imo.
@@n00b-master84 in my eyes Thor accomplished a lot more. Eddie was a great competeter he won Britians strongest man 5times and he won WSM once and as far I know he was on the Podium twice. Hafthor was on the Podium at WSM around 8 Times with one win. But further He won Iclands Strongest 10 Times. He won Europes Strongest man 5 times (Eddie was competing in a few of those). And Most important he won the Arnolds 3times, in my eyes to win the Arnolds ist similar to winning WSM
Eddie will always have the deadlift record in most people's books (until is broken legitimately in competition off course)
People forget that it was covid back than. There were no competitions cause everything was on lockdown.
Not in mine. 📚
@@FlyTour69 That's why I said most. Home Gym vs Competition. If thor can pull that in competition I'll accept it.
@@SuacoRV Exactly, but if he wants to claim it he needs to do it in competition. Image if Eddie in his prime could pull a deadlift at home with all the stars aligned and having the perfect conditions, I'm sure he would be able to reach 550kg
@@johanfbarlow9195he wouldn't and at his attempt of world record eddie had unlimited rest at his choice, everything was served to him as previously stated by many people, it wasn't really legit competition, thor's lift was livestreamed, Big Z vouched for it, weights were calibrated on scale that can't be really cheated, it doesn't matter who took the weights and put them on scale, even if thor's grandma lifted them scale doesn't lie, legimate world record even tho thor doesn't care as much as he wanted to let eddie know he is better deadlifter than eddie
Not matter the 501, Thor is now forgotten and Eddie is still visible and loved by everyone. The people’s champ.
The last thing said on this video and Eddie laughing 😂
Kugan constantly and nervously adjusting his t-shirt is killing me 😂
I just love Eddie. He's so much composed
got to love eddie
Both legends. Who would I grab a beer with, Eddie every day, Thor is a bit unpredictable with the anger.
The look in the mirror kills me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s how you know someone got to you lol 😂 personal insult
Thanks for putting this video up 9 million days after it happened 👍🏻
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for watching a day ago 🤗
@@liamc7097 oh that's adorable you thought I watched it 😂
@@bumndrass You clicked on it, so yeah, you most likely did.
@@DeathByDegrees10 thanks for assuming. You're terribly incorrect, which has highlighted to the general public your comprehension ability (or lack thereof). Thanks for trying though, you're welcome to start again and have another little go if you need.
Thor basically used the Price Is Right tactic in a non competition. It technically was more, but it wasn’t a fair way to take the world record from Eddie.
I really have no idea what they are arguing about but it’s exciting
Eddie is King. First one is always remembered.
eddie is nothing. he's a pub fool. no class this man
0:21 Thor made the interviewer pee a little 😆
Eddie as well, the way he went "cAaALM down mate" had me rolling
I look at it like Kipchoges sun 2 hour marathon, it’s not an official record because it was setup for ideal conditions but it’s impressive.
I really like both these men… think it’s sad they cannot work or just be together
I've never seen this before..... this is gold 😊
This is like watching the “my dad is tougher than your dad” arguments. All this talk and they had a sh*t fight
Except they’re two of the strongest men in the world, who then actually put themselves into a fight.
Then there’s you, talking shit on them Lmfao
@@brandonhoover2120 correct, they’re strongmen so good observation there brother 👍🏻 They gassed out in the first 30 seconds, technical ability was poor. Overhyped freak show at best. Any heavyweight pro would’ve had either one of them out of there in the first round.
Heavy deadlifts don’t make you great at fighting, sorry to break that to you
@@ThePoochie101
Is the entirety of your retarded point that they are less skilled then professional boxers, who boxed exclusively for decades?
I'm honestly flabbergasted how someone can write such garbage and never notice it.
Just a question: Why is Thor not going to try to lift it again during a competition lift?
I doubt he wants to do that much gear and get up to that weight ever again. Missed his chance at a respectable record and knows its never gonna happen now
@@benlandre9791 hmmm okay okay!
Eddy spitting facts
Both were as equally as impressive tbh, but yes, Eddie’s leap in weight was far superior.
Eddie is spot on here 💯
Deep down they love each other...
Halls deadlift was more impactful but Thor's pull was stronger and left more in the tank. Both amazing fears of strength
Dude Eddie held that shit for a minute straight and stared the world down as he did it. At a live event in competition. Thor was given an advantage no other power lifter has ever been given for a record. It’s bullshit
@Joshua H. If it’s such bullshit then why dont you try pulling that much weight
@@Specialistkay you realize the live streamed the weighing of every single plate before immediately putting it on the bar
@@randomselfimprovementchann1304 congrats, you completely missed the point. I’m not a pro power lifter that has the play by pro power lifter rules like Thor should have
and on top of that, Thor didn't have to create a disturbing scene in his mind to generate adrenaline, where his family is dying like Eddie had to. Eddie even admits on videos how he with sober mind couldn't lift the weight.
Thor did with pure strength.
Eddie did it with weaker strength and dark mind hypnosis.
These are two strongmen
Lots.of banter.
I am a Tom Stoltman fan.
Dont even get me started with tom stoltman fans. Atleast you guys are not worse from thor fans. Thor fans are terrible but the stoltman fans come to a close second.
Now both the stoltmans and thor are amazing strongman and i respect them all but when it comes to stoltman fans and thor fans they just seem like a bunch of kids to me.
Dont take it personaly. I am not saying anything bad about you or stoltman just the picture that their fans give
Also on a side note i am a martin licis fan.
And i would love to hear some humour on us licis fans :)
Yeah both Stoltman brothers are cool 💪
If only they saw me Lateral Raise 510kg as a warm up this whole discussion would be over real quick
How am I just now discovering this
Think anyone who's done sport or competitions at national level or above know that there's a big difference doing something essentially in 'training/home' compared to doing in a competition, sitting around doing heats/rounds/ prepping waiting around/having competition nerves. Everything being measured, all the pressure, it's just not the same.
each medal has two sides; my gf literally always had her best lifts in competition, never in training; something about ego, adrenaline boosts, crowds cheering, healthy 'pressure' to move above and beyond; and other people would 'choke' under pressure... it's not the same for everyone. Like NBA players who are KNOWN to shine (or choke) at buzzer beaters...
Except Eddie's lift wasn't like a proper competion lift. It was more of a doing my own thing in frint of big audience. The whole event was built around him. He got exactly the rest times he needed, he did no other lifts or events prior to that, he could warm up the way he wanted and his lift was the first of the competition.
That said, I think Eddie's achievement cannot be swept under the rug just because someone lifted heavier, but Thor's lift was just as hard imo as his, he should have gone 5kg heavier just so naysayers could shut up
I think I sort of need to clarify this more. Most athletes when they do a record in competition they've already done it in training, most of the time they need to have done near their pb just to qualify they don't get an invite otherwise. Athletes don't just rock up out of the blue and do WRs. Most team sports are different as they're usually championships not knock out. Competitions are better because there are other individuals, they're not just there to win but also to validate another competitors results. Also to Thor if there was an official weighing with official measuring equipment it may have been the case that he did above 501.
He didn't have a choice though. It was during covid with lockdowns. He was already training for it for a long time prior to covid, its not like he wanted to do it in his home gym.
This is very simple. Every single aspect should be third party verified. (Weighing weights and such)
And it should all be done in the same controlled environment. That's how science is done and that's how this should be done.